Christine Pelosi: Superdelegates Should Not Overturn Majority Dem. Vote

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First Posted: 02-15-08 12:10 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Christine Pelosi, daughter of the Speaker and (more notably at the moment) a superdelegate, warns of a massive disillusionment of voters should Democratic Party officials back a presidential nominee that didn't win the pledged delegate vote.

"Many of us are elected by the grassroots of the party," she said, "And I cannot imagine going home in November to those people and try to phone bank for someone who did not capture the [pledged delegate] vote... We were all galvanized by what happened to Al Gore in Florida."

Pelosi, who has been a DNC member since 1996 and recently authored the book "Campaign Boot Camp," acknowledged being petitioned heavily from campaign surrogates but declined to say whom she would support. She did, however, list different attributes upon which her superdelegate vote will be based: "Who is building a base of volunteers, who is bringing the party together - the best indicators of future performance."

In her interview with the Huffington Post, she spoke freely and at length about some of the challenges facing the 796 superdelegates as the presidential nomination seemingly falls into their laps. What, for instance, should the party do about the primary elections in Michigan and Florida, which did not, according to DNC rules, carry any delegates, but which the victorious Hillary Clinton campaign is hoping to have counted?

"Of course they should be involved. I can't imagine a scenario personally where they are not. The question is how?" said Pelosi. She then playfully suggested a novel idea: splitting the state's delegates 50/50 to Obama and Clinton. It would, she argued, allow for representation from each state while not changing the dynamics of the race in one candidate's favor. Of course, she added, "Ideally we sit back and let the process do its will and by the time you get to June it won't matter."

In a separate interview Friday with Bloomberg TV, Christine's mother, Nancy Pelosi, went a step further, arguing that the Florida and Michigan primaries shouldn't decide the party's nomination. "I don't think that any states that operated outside the rules of the party can be dispositive of who the nominee is,'' Pelosi told Al Hunt. She also addressed the power wielded by the super-delegates, dismissing concerns that they vote against the will of the majority of Democratic voters.

"It's not just following the returns; it's also having a respect for what has been said by the people,'' she said. It would be "a problem for the party if the verdict would be something different than the public has decided."

Reflecting her mother's remarks, Christine Pelosi also sought to debunk the perception that super delegates were just cigar smoking -- "my mother won't allow that" -- backroom dealing, political bigwigs willing to trade their votes at the Democratic National Convention for patronage.

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"We are paying attention," she said, "What we are supposed to do is enhance the process not step on it."

As evidence, the Speaker's daughter riffed on a variety of political and campaign topics. Pelosi showed little patience for the most recent line of attack by the Clinton campaign, which has accused Obama of ducking debates in Wisconsin.

"It is always sort of a stunt when you call for a debate," she said. "If they really wanted a debate you know, Howard [Wolfson] has David [Axelrod]'s phone number. They could arrange this if they really wanted to... This silly fight over a debate or a snub or this or that is really dumb."

But her most critical words were saved for the Republican side of the political aisle.

"John McCain is George Bush's third term," she said of the GOP frontrunner, "and I just don't believe the American people want to elect George Bush for a third term."

As for former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's decision to stay in the race against the most unlikely of odds: "Can't Fox give him a talk show or something?"

Mostly, however, Pelosi offered a cautiously optimistic outlook for the Democrats in 2008. There is a historic nature to the election, she posited, a chance to bring and secure a new generation of voters in the political process. And absent a major screw-up, Democrats could ride that wave to long-term victories.

"I think that if we can capture and hold the enthusiasm of the 20 million Americans who have come out to vote so far," Pelosi said, "and the millions more who will by the time our nomination process if over, if we can keep those people organized and energized we will win."

Christine Pelosi, daughter of the Speaker and (more notably at the moment) a superdelegate, warns of a massive disillusionment of voters should Democratic Party officials back a presidential nominee t...
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- rh654 I'm a Fan of rh654 14 fans permalink

If Obama is ahead in the vote count - do you really think that the Democratic Party will risk alienating the black vote - and plenty of others - by overturning the vote of the people to put a black man on the ticket for the first time in our country's history?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 02/15/2008
- vsign I'm a Fan of vsign 34 fans permalink

The left likes losing so they can keep playing the victim card. Obama sure likes playing it and young people are being taught that unless their savior wins the democratic nomination, we are victimizing them. How sad Obama is such a slick and clever card player. Send him to some island far far away when this is all over. Somewhere he can never hurt our party and our young people again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 02/15/2008

How is Obama playing the victim card?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 02/15/2008
- rh654 I'm a Fan of rh654 14 fans permalink

How is Obama playing the "victim card" ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 02/15/2008
- BigBagel I'm a Fan of BigBagel 29 fans permalink
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How is Obama playing the victim card?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 02/15/2008

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"Somewhere he can never hurt our party..."

Sorry, but you republicans have a whompin' acomin'

And Obama's going to give it to you.

Get ready for at least 16 years of a Democratic controlled WH & Congress.



I know, I know, you're a life long member of the 'democrat party'...


Suuurrrrr you are.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 02/15/2008
- mikonyc I'm a Fan of mikonyc 7 fans permalink

obama-ites are children, if their candidate is not nominated, they will walk away, they are infants, not fully developed, need an idol to feel they have an identity of their own, so yes, they are victims, which all infants are, as they are dependent upon adults, ie. grown ups, ie. Hillary Clinton, to survive. So, when Hillary gets the nomination, they will retreat because their identity will be squashed. Unfortunate, but ultimately....TRUE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 02/15/2008

Obama-ites may be children in your eyes, but they still have the right to vote (or withold their vote).

So if Hillary gets nominated, she should be an "adult" and think hard about how she's going to survive a general election without all the groups she dismissed on the path to the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 02/15/2008

Not all of them, but way too many.

If they don't get the nomination, they stand to become this year's Naderites.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 02/15/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

I've seen so many backers of Hillary take on a 'parent' attitude, and attack Barack supporters. Why is this? I'm 51, and I can clearly see that Barack is an exceptional leader, and will be a great president for us and for the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 02/16/2008
- horacekent I'm a Fan of horacekent 10 fans permalink

******** OBAMA SUPPORTERS PISS ME OFF:

Hello - I'm Horace Kent,.... & I approve this message.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rki8AbYAPaQ

Great Luck!
~HK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 02/15/2008
- ginnypoo I'm a Fan of ginnypoo 7 fans permalink

Interesting that this spineless reason, we're sheeple and just follow blindly, is the reason given to ensure that Nancy et al don't have to let Hillary take her claim to fame away. Currently, Nancy is the Highest Ranking Woman in Elected Office in the History of Our Country so I am not surprised, but greatly disappointed, that Nancy would rather protect her record than to show some spine and say Obama supported tax breaks the Dems don't support, he has allowed himself, as a freshman Senator to be used by Cheney and Co, and he needs more service and positions under his belt before taking the HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE WORLD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 02/15/2008
- Danny I'm a Fan of Danny 5 fans permalink

ginny -- come November you'll be disappointed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 02/15/2008

It would be extremely disappointing if Pelosi
does not support Hillary Clinton., the candidate with the most depth. If we expect to "save face" with the rest of the world,
we need to put a person with experience and knowledge in that position, not a "rock star".,
that will only reinforce their low opinion of us. We have to think globally. The rest of the world respects the Clintons, face the facts!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 02/16/2008
- suntzu I'm a Fan of suntzu 16 fans permalink
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It says right in the second paragraph that she was elected by her district to be Supe. Obviously having Nancy as a mother helps, but do you really think Hillary got there 100% on her own?

In the New York Primary, under each candidate's name there were six names to select five superdelegates and one alternate. Congressfolk are automatically Supes. And there's a whole bunch of Supes who are just DNC insiders. But Christine was elected.

The 21-year old Supe who was on TV and who was courted by Chelsea and Bill was not elected but was appointed by Howard Dean.

It is a mess and should be abolished. The argument that they are there as a tiebreaker is true, but that is ad hoc reasoning. There are other ways of breaking a tie that are not quite as subject to abuse. What is happening is that the Supes have become like a political eBay, with a lot of auctioning going on.

As Will Rogers said, "I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Democrat."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 02/15/2008

Please explain what I'm missing. If the superdelagates can't overturn a majority, why have them in the first place? The Dems have a totally corrupt system of picking their nominee and disenfranshicing voters. It will be amazing to me if they can bring it to a conclusion without invovling the Supreme Court. That's something they like to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 02/15/2008

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What you're missing:

'Superdelagates' can vote anyway they want.
The republicans also seat some delegates without regard to primary or cacus results.

the republicans don't use them as much becuase their nomination process makes it almost impossible for it to be a close race up to the convention - the 'winner take all' state delagate rule exists in most of the primary contests, creating a frontrunner as early as possible (like McCain now).

What she is saying here is that they shouldn't go counter to whatever the majority of delegates have decided in this close race - that would make it appear that they are thwarting the 'voters'.

The superdelegates are people who are suppose to vote in the best interestes of the party they have worked hard for rather than just go along with whomever is leading at the time they get to cast their votes. usually, their support makes little difference.


That doesn't make it 'corrupt'.

After almost 8 years of Chimpy, I'd think you'd know what corrupt is by now.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 02/15/2008

what do you do when the majority of Americans
are "sheep".. "followers", instead of questioning the media, who's been bashing Hillary Clinton for over a year now?
I guess America deserves what it gets....
The last 8 years we got what we deserved,
for voting for Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 02/16/2008
- Politiking I'm a Fan of Politiking 3 fans permalink

The imbecile superdelegates and the DNC should have never held a primary if they are the ones going to decide in the end who will be the nominee. They shouldn't have wasted peoples time and effort and just nominate whomever they want, and then send that candidate to the General election.

The more time they spend on posturing and speculation the more weary people become. The Presidency is the Dems Party to lose so they better get their act together soon.

DNC and Howard Dean change the rules all the time. Recently, they stripped Liebermann of his superdelegate status, but unclear as to whom it will be assigned or if the 796 will now be 795.

Regardless, at the end of this primary, the votes for leading candidate won't be 2025 because of the FL and MI and stripping of Liebermann discrepancies. Now how will that be resolved? Of course, at the glorified Convention!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 02/15/2008

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You have no idea how the election process works. You must be a republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 02/15/2008
- kburlz I'm a Fan of kburlz 23 fans permalink

stripping of Liebermann? He left the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 02/16/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 652 fans permalink
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Thats all fine and good, but tell your mom to set the damn table, there is nothing on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 02/15/2008
- BigLib I'm a Fan of BigLib 18 fans permalink

Billary is your nominee.

O'bama can float into the sky and rainbow colored sparks can fly out of his ass and he still won't win the nomination.

It's all been arranged.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 02/15/2008
- angelbravo I'm a Fan of angelbravo 3 fans permalink

Not gona happen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 02/15/2008
- gala1 I'm a Fan of gala1 46 fans permalink

The job of every superdelegate is to come up with a candidate that can win the election. Not the Mr. Congeniality award.


It doesn't matter where the sparks fly out of, it matters whether Obama can win. Hillary can win against John McCain. Obama can't.

Obama has nothing to offer but really nice rhetoric and being a really cool guy. Or haven't you heard them over at Faux snickering about dreams and tomorrows and starting up the engines on the Swiftboats over that one.
McCain has extensive experience and is a war hero.

This is war time and these are the worst economic times we will ever be facing. Did you know that the price of wheat has tripled since a year ago?
What do you think that is going to mean?
Do you even know that bread is now between three and four dollars a loaf? Five dollar bread is coming. Five dollar a pound tomatoes are already here.
That's what elections are made of . Not new dawns, bad days by dinner.
And how do you fix that without knowing how to play the game?

What do you think Hillary has been doing all this time, other than pissing you all off about the war. She is a virtuoso on domestic issues. Obama doesn't even know the little she could have forgotten.
And she isn't in the pockets that McCain is snuggled up in.

I'm voting democrat because I am sure the soul would fall out of my body if I ever voted for any living Republican.

But if you put Obama up against McCain, especially without Hillary on that ticket, You've just elected John McCain. People are scared and we all only get one vote apiece. Tough luck.

If Obama wants to be President then he needs to get some experience. That's not my opinion. It's every republican.
Is what it is.

gala

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 02/15/2008

"If Obama wants to be President then he needs to get some experience."

About how much do you suggest? Maybe just enough to support stupid wars? Maybe just enough experience to receive money from federal lobbyists?

maybe next time around he'll have enough experience that he won't gather the youth vote. We need to return to apathy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 02/15/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

Hey, gala1, these statements like yours really do grow tiresome: "Obama has nothing to offer but really nice rhetoric and being a really cool guy."

Have you read his policy proposals? Have you reviewed his voting history, his accomplishments?

Please use your critical thinking skills, and abstain from Rethuglican behavior.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 02/16/2008
- vsign I'm a Fan of vsign 34 fans permalink

Obama was given the privelege of running within the Democratic Party. He needs to honor our party members. So far he has failed. It is his job - his job - to bring his voters with him if Hillary wins. For him to suggest otherwise makes him a fake Democrat. But then I think he is a fake and his followers are worshipers in need of a mega-church. I am really uncomfortable about his preaching hate against older people beginning with Hillary. Maybe we will lose some young people. But if Obama wins the nomination you will lose alot of older people and working class people like me. If the party goes along with "burning the bridge to the past" , it will lose its soul, me and the general election to McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 02/15/2008
- klmebane I'm a Fan of klmebane 19 fans permalink
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i'm sorry, i'm confused. how exactly has obama hated on old people? as for burning the bridge to the past, the old ways aren't doing us any good, so i have no problem with that. we need to, as a nation, learn from our mistakes instead of repeating them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 02/15/2008
- LDW I'm a Fan of LDW 5 fans permalink

Obama has only ever used "the old ways" - his shiny new slogans are just new paint on an old car.

Check out his previous election campaign tactics.

Yes, America, as a nation, needs to learn from its mistakes and not elect ANOTHER Feel-Good President like Reagan, and Dubya!!!!

Because, when you stop chanting Yes We Can! like moronic moonbots you'll find that slogans are a not a substitute for knowledge and hard work.

Obama has pretty words in his speeches and delivers them with passion and real talent. He also has pretty words and policies on his web page, but in debate he obviously doesn't have a real grasp of the issues.

Pretty words and a big grin are nice things. Makes you feel good.........now what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 02/15/2008
- najablah I'm a Fan of najablah 5 fans permalink

So if it Obama's job to ensure his supporter back Hillary if she wins the nomination because Obama is a democrat, then isn't it your job to support Obama if he wins the nomination because you are a democrat?

Or is McCain's pro-war pro-torture stance appealing to you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 02/15/2008
- SeekerOne I'm a Fan of SeekerOne 11 fans permalink
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Can you please give us a reference as to when Obama preached hate against older people? Are you referring to McCain?

And if Hillary wins, you'd better believe Obama will back her, and tell his supporters to back her. I know I will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 02/15/2008
- Bagger I'm a Fan of Bagger 17 fans permalink
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Honor party members...what are you talking about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 02/15/2008
- angelbravo I'm a Fan of angelbravo 3 fans permalink

Earth to you America really doesn't like Hillary get over it. She will never win.
Chelsea2020

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 02/15/2008
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Anyway how come your Mom caved when she was elected to End This War?

Want to get right down to it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 02/15/2008
- Politiking I'm a Fan of Politiking 3 fans permalink

Campaign or no campaign, the FL and MI delegates should be seated and the voters vote should be counted and tallied accordingly. The FL and MI voters voted in their election and if the Dems are thinking of disenfranchising the delegates because of stupid rules they should be ashamed of themselves. Why do they think IA and NH are more important than the rest of the states? They should reverse the order of the primary and give the first date to all the Super Tuesday states or better yet, hold a National Primary and the candidate with the most votes wins the nomination. These morons created these complex rules to prevent issue such as this, but now they find themselves scared of the idea of whom to choose.

At any rate, if the Pelosis are thinking of voting for Obama, they should be thrown out of California since California voted majority for Hillary. Pelosi has done little to move the Congress to withdraw from Iraq. All their posturing and backroom dealing have created a web of deception of the American People.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 02/15/2008
- klmebane I'm a Fan of klmebane 19 fans permalink
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yes, rules are so stupid. president bush even agrees, he's been breaking rules left and right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 02/15/2008
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20 Million isn't enough. Your going to have to work harder then that to put a Dem in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 02/15/2008

you people are really idiots
who are these people ?
get involved ! find out
p a r t i c i p a t e !
get a job and get a life
have you ever done anything besides type stupid shit ?
do you even vote ?
who are these people ? what an idiot
you'd probably vote for britney if they packaged her the right way
our world is in trouble and i see the rich stealing another election away from the masses the sleepy sleepy stupid masses
thanks again ken blackwell and carl rove
brilliant that gay marriage ammendent that swung ohio like the voter fraud swung it in florida
thanks jeb bush great work !
how many of your saudi friends with dead cousins will let you dock at their slip now ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 02/15/2008
- Lisette I'm a Fan of Lisette 39 fans permalink
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Very nice article Christine Pelosi.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 02/15/2008
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