Christine Pelosi: Superdelegates Should Not Overturn Majority Dem. Vote

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First Posted: 02-15-08 12:10 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Christine Pelosi, daughter of the Speaker and (more notably at the moment) a superdelegate, warns of a massive disillusionment of voters should Democratic Party officials back a presidential nominee that didn't win the pledged delegate vote.

"Many of us are elected by the grassroots of the party," she said, "And I cannot imagine going home in November to those people and try to phone bank for someone who did not capture the [pledged delegate] vote... We were all galvanized by what happened to Al Gore in Florida."

Pelosi, who has been a DNC member since 1996 and recently authored the book "Campaign Boot Camp," acknowledged being petitioned heavily from campaign surrogates but declined to say whom she would support. She did, however, list different attributes upon which her superdelegate vote will be based: "Who is building a base of volunteers, who is bringing the party together - the best indicators of future performance."

In her interview with the Huffington Post, she spoke freely and at length about some of the challenges facing the 796 superdelegates as the presidential nomination seemingly falls into their laps. What, for instance, should the party do about the primary elections in Michigan and Florida, which did not, according to DNC rules, carry any delegates, but which the victorious Hillary Clinton campaign is hoping to have counted?

"Of course they should be involved. I can't imagine a scenario personally where they are not. The question is how?" said Pelosi. She then playfully suggested a novel idea: splitting the state's delegates 50/50 to Obama and Clinton. It would, she argued, allow for representation from each state while not changing the dynamics of the race in one candidate's favor. Of course, she added, "Ideally we sit back and let the process do its will and by the time you get to June it won't matter."

In a separate interview Friday with Bloomberg TV, Christine's mother, Nancy Pelosi, went a step further, arguing that the Florida and Michigan primaries shouldn't decide the party's nomination. "I don't think that any states that operated outside the rules of the party can be dispositive of who the nominee is,'' Pelosi told Al Hunt. She also addressed the power wielded by the super-delegates, dismissing concerns that they vote against the will of the majority of Democratic voters.

"It's not just following the returns; it's also having a respect for what has been said by the people,'' she said. It would be "a problem for the party if the verdict would be something different than the public has decided."

Reflecting her mother's remarks, Christine Pelosi also sought to debunk the perception that super delegates were just cigar smoking -- "my mother won't allow that" -- backroom dealing, political bigwigs willing to trade their votes at the Democratic National Convention for patronage.

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"We are paying attention," she said, "What we are supposed to do is enhance the process not step on it."

As evidence, the Speaker's daughter riffed on a variety of political and campaign topics. Pelosi showed little patience for the most recent line of attack by the Clinton campaign, which has accused Obama of ducking debates in Wisconsin.

"It is always sort of a stunt when you call for a debate," she said. "If they really wanted a debate you know, Howard [Wolfson] has David [Axelrod]'s phone number. They could arrange this if they really wanted to... This silly fight over a debate or a snub or this or that is really dumb."

But her most critical words were saved for the Republican side of the political aisle.

"John McCain is George Bush's third term," she said of the GOP frontrunner, "and I just don't believe the American people want to elect George Bush for a third term."

As for former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's decision to stay in the race against the most unlikely of odds: "Can't Fox give him a talk show or something?"

Mostly, however, Pelosi offered a cautiously optimistic outlook for the Democrats in 2008. There is a historic nature to the election, she posited, a chance to bring and secure a new generation of voters in the political process. And absent a major screw-up, Democrats could ride that wave to long-term victories.

"I think that if we can capture and hold the enthusiasm of the 20 million Americans who have come out to vote so far," Pelosi said, "and the millions more who will by the time our nomination process if over, if we can keep those people organized and energized we will win."

Christine Pelosi, daughter of the Speaker and (more notably at the moment) a superdelegate, warns of a massive disillusionment of voters should Democratic Party officials back a presidential nominee t...
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But you will if you want to. That is the problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 02/15/2008

Barack Obama supporters just held a conference call with reporters to discuss health care, pushing the idea that Obama's plan, unlike someone else's, isn't a big government mandate. But right before it ended, a reporter from Washington slipped in an off-topic question: tax returns.

Barack Obama released his and Hillary Clinton hasn’t (which the New York Times editorialized about this morning).

Former Senator Bill Bradley, in a capable bit of segueing, said, “I think this is part of a larger issue that actually affects healthcare, and it is full disclosure. There is an issue of full disclosure of income tax returns. There’s also an issue of full disclosure of what a mandate will cost. And she has not made a full disclosure of that nor her income tax returns.”

He went on to say, “And as long as we’re on the issue of full disclosure, President Clinton hasn’t revealed who were the contributors to his presidential library while he was still in office.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 02/15/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 45 fans permalink

suadi royal family: twenty million dollars


hope that helps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 02/15/2008
- elusiveyo I'm a Fan of elusiveyo 4 fans permalink

who cares what she says, rich white brat fron SF, who cares

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 02/15/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 45 fans permalink

well thought out, virtuous and eloquent...

kudos on your discernment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 02/15/2008
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Yeh, like Chelsea. Free David Shuster...!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 02/15/2008

I have a feeling the super delegates are going to coalesce behind whoever hits the 1400-1500 pledged delegate mark first (read: Obama). They want more than anything to head off a convention fight over Florida and Michigan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 02/15/2008

Who the hell is this Pelosi. I have a famous family member do I get to be quoted on the Obama Post. JUST MORE BULL SHIT BY THIS FRAUD OF A WEBSITE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 02/15/2008
- Maezeppa I'm a Fan of Maezeppa 26 fans permalink

Sorry, Miss Pelosi, I might agree with you if general primary turnout included more mainstream Democrats and not just the 15% leftmost activists, but it does not - that's the reality.

Super Delegates, like every other voter, have a duty to vote their conscience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 02/15/2008
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Are you suggesting that the rest of the party is barred from an opportunity to participate in the primary elections?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 02/15/2008
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Or are you suggesting that the decision be turned over to an even narrower elite slice of the Democratic party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 02/15/2008

The republicans and independents are throwing the Democratic election to Obama out of hatred for Hillary.

I want to know what percentage of DEMS only support Obama and Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 02/15/2008
- Tommymac I'm a Fan of Tommymac 7 fans permalink

Back this up with facts please.

Show us some data - otherwise this is simply an opinion and we all have one of those, among other things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 02/15/2008
- boomer59 I'm a Fan of boomer59 6 fans permalink

Oh man Henry2008 you must be related to AnninCA, I'm a 50 year old Dem and have been a Democratic voter since I was 18 years old, and I'm voting for Obama. When I voted in my primary (AZ) I had to vote what I was registered as - Democrat! No independents were allowed to vote in our primary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 02/15/2008
- on2them I'm a Fan of on2them 24 fans permalink
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thanks for pointing that out boomer...why were independents not allowed to vote?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 02/15/2008

You said it...in your primary. Not the others that are open.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 02/15/2008

Majority Dem vote, or grass-roots mobilizer for the future?

PICK ONE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 02/15/2008

Sorry Christine,
the "massive disillusionment of voters" was caused by your mother's traiturous "Impeachment is off the table" statement.
Your mother has done nothing since 2006, and THIS turns off Democratic Voters.
If you want the voters back, IMPEACH and HOLD ACCOUNTABLE.
Nancy Pelosi only did her part in helping destroy America. Hope she gets voted out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 02/15/2008
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Or elect Senator Obama who is bringing hoards of voters back to the Democratic column.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 02/15/2008

No one should give a shit whatever either of these women think or say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 02/15/2008

Your comment have some sexist overtones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 02/15/2008
- boomer59 I'm a Fan of boomer59 6 fans permalink

Just as no one should give a rat's ass whatever you sfbetty think or say either!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 02/15/2008

Someone should start a petition to let the superdelegates know that they can "butt out" of who we chose as our champion!And as far as MI and FL I think a 50/50 split is fair for everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 02/15/2008

The Super Delegate idea is to prevent the states that caucus to exercise an unduly big influence on the election.
EXAMPLE: MAINE: Of the 1,317,253 population of Maine only 3475 attended the caucuses.
2079 voted for Obama
1396 voted for Hillary
683 the number by which Hillary lost
Hardly the"incredible' victory that obama's camp claimed.
But a victory being a victory. However all the rest of the population of Maine would absolutely be ignored and therefore disenfranchised. I know that you Obama supporters would like nothing better than to see the million and a half voters of Florida disenfranchised. These voters DID NOT HAVE A SAY IN MOVING THE PRIMARY. But you would have them disenfranchised. If Obama would have won, you would have been the first to CRY FOUL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 02/15/2008

And if you count the votes, you disenfranchise people who stayed home because they were told their votes wouldn't count anyway.

And there's no earthly reason that Michigan should count.

Why not have a re-vote in both states?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 02/15/2008

Here, here...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 02/15/2008

And what majority is that, the one without Florida and Michigan? Unless we seat Florida and Michigan any nominee will be tainted and not by the superdelegates, but by the Democratic Party. Ms. Pelosi should stick to trying to become the CDP Chair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 02/15/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

Moreover, her area of representation voted for Hillary.

:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 02/15/2008
- shadow322 I'm a Fan of shadow322 9 fans permalink
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Sam - you are the instigator aren't you. You know Christine is not politically savvy yet you write as if her ideas some how represent an epiphany. The super delagates have been there for over 40 years. They were not gathered just for this election - no matter how hard you try to imply they were. Their job here is to influence the election if none of the candidates acquires the REQUIRED MINIMUM NUMBER OF DELEGATES. The minimum number was established as a point required to imply popular support. You could explain this, but then, that would not be so sensational would it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 02/15/2008
- ctmommy I'm a Fan of ctmommy 2 fans permalink

This woman is third in line for the Presidency and she is shutting down the House when important votes and debates are needed, because her daughter is getting married this weekend!?! This is who we want representing the Democrats!?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 02/15/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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I think a lot of Dems have much more substantial reasons for wanting new leadership...like their spineless concessions to Bush and their refusal to have put impeachment on the table.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 02/15/2008
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BTW, that doesn't mean I share your Repub POV that this is an "outrage".

Seeing the Repubs running away from the Capitol because the Dems wanted a vote to protect the balance of powers of our democracy was far more outrageous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 02/15/2008
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