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Ill. Gunman's Rampage Baffles Friends

DEANNA BELLANDI | February 15, 2008 11:48 PM EST | AP

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DEKALB, Ill. — If there is such a thing as a profile of a mass murderer, Steven Kazmierczak didn't fit it: outstanding student, engaging, polite and industrious, with what looked like a bright future in the criminal justice field.

And yet on Thursday, the 27-year-old Kazmierczak, armed with three handguns and a brand-new pump-action shotgun he had carried onto campus in a guitar case, stepped from behind a screen on the stage of a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University and opened fire on a geology class. He killed five students before committing suicide.

University Police Chief Donald Grady said, without giving details, that Kazmierczak had become erratic in the past two weeks after he had stopped taking his medication. But that seemed to come as news to many of those who knew him, and the attack itself was positively baffling.

"We had no indications at all this would be the type of person that would engage in such activity," Grady said. He described the gunman as a good student during his time at NIU, and by all accounts a "fairly normal" person.

Exactly what set Kazmierczak off _ and why he picked his former university and that particular lecture hall _ remained a mystery. Police said they found no suicide note.

Late Friday, a former employee at a Chicago psychiatric treatment center told The Associated Press that Kazmierczak was placed there after high school by his parents. She said he used to cut himself, and had resisted taking his medications.

Authorities also were searching for a woman who police believe may have been Kazmierczak's girlfriend. According to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the case is still under investigation, authorities were looking into whether Kazmierczak and the woman recently broke up.

Investigators learned that a week ago, on Feb. 9, Kazmierczak walked into a Champaign, gun store and picked up two guns _ the Remington shotgun and a Glock 9mm handgun. He bought the two other handguns at the same shop _ a Hi-Point .380 on Dec. 30 and a Sig Sauer on Aug. 6.

All four guns were bought legally from a federally licensed firearms dealer, said Thomas Ahern, a spokesman for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. At least one criminal background check was performed. Kazmierczak (pronounced kaz-MUR-chek) had no criminal record.

Kazmierczak had a State Police-issued FOID, or firearms owners identification card, which is required in Illinois to own a gun, authorities said. Such cards are rarely issued to those with recent mental health problems. The application asks: "In the past five years have you been a patient in any medical facility or part of any medical facility used primarily for the care or treatment of persons for mental illness?"

A Green Bay, Wis.-based Internet gun dealer who sold a weapon to the Virginia Tech shooter last year said he also sold handgun accessories to Kazmierczak.

"I'm still blown away by the coincidences," Eric Thompson said. "I'm shaking. I can't believe somebody would order from us again and do this."

Thompson's Web site, , sold two empty 9 mm Glock magazines and a Glock holster to Kazmierczak on Feb. 4., though he had no idea whether they were used in Thursday's rampage. Thompson said his site did not sell Kazmierczak any bullets or guns. http://www.topglock.com

Kazmierczak, who went by Steve, graduated from NIU in 2007 and was a graduate student in sociology there before leaving last year and moving on to the graduate school of social work at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, 130 miles away.

Unlike Virginia Tech gunman Seung-Hui Cho _ a sullen misfit who could barely look anyone in the eye, much less carry on a conversation _ Kazmierczak appeared to fit in just fine.

Chris Larrison, an assistant professor of social work, said Kazmierczak did data entry for Larrison's research grant on mental health clinics. Larrison was stunned by the shooting rampage, as was the gunman's faculty adviser, professor Jan Carter-Black.

"He was engaging, motivated, responsible. I saw nothing to suggest that there was anything troubling about his behavior," she said.

Carter-Black said Kazmierczak wanted to focus on mental health issues and enrolled in August in a course she taught about human behavior and the social environment, but withdrew in September because he had gotten a job with the prison system.

He worked briefly as a full-time corrections officer at the Rockville Correctional Facility, an adult medium-security prison in Rockville, Ind., about 80 miles from Champaign. His tenure there lasted only from Sept. 24 to Oct. 9, after which Indiana prisons spokesman Doug Garrison said "he just didn't show up one day."

Kazmierczak had left the job and resumed classes full-time at the Urbana-Champaign campus in January, Carter-Black said.

He also had a short-lived stint in the Army. He enlisted in the Army in September 2001, but was discharged in February 2002 for an "unspecified" reason, said Army spokesman Paul Boyce.

His University of Illinois student ID depicts a smiling, clean-cut Kazmierczak, unlike the scowling, menacing-looking images of Cho that surfaced after his rampage.

NIU President John Peters said Kazmierczak compiled "a very good academic record, no record of trouble" at the 25,000-student campus in DeKalb. He won at least two awards and served as an officer in two student groups dedicated to promoting understanding of the criminal justice system.

Exactly what sort of career he planned for himself was unclear. But he wrote papers on self-injury in prison and the role of religion in the creation of early U.S. prisons. The research paper on self-injury in prison said his interests also included political violence and peace and social justice.

Speaking Friday in Lakeland, Fla., Kazmierczak's distraught father did not immediately provide any clues to what led to the bloodshed.

"Please leave me alone. ... This is a very hard time for me," Robert Kazmierczak told reporters, throwing his arms up and weeping after emerging briefly from his house. He declined further comment about his son and went back inside his house, saying he was diabetic. A sign on the front door said: "Illini fans live here."

In Illinois, the gunman's sister, Susan Kazmierczak, posted a statement on the door of her Urbana home that said "We are both shocked and saddened. In addition to the loss of innocent lives, Steven was a member of our family. We are grieving his loss as well as the loss of life resulting from his actions."

Neighbors in the brick apartment building in Champaign where Kazmierczak last lived were shocked to hear he was the gunman.

Kazmierczak grew up in the Chicago suburb of Elk Grove Village, not far from O'Hare Airport. His family lived most recently in a middle-class neighborhood of mostly one-story tract homes before moving away early in this decade. His mother died in Florida in 2006 at age 58.

He was a B student at Elk Grove High School, where school district spokeswoman Venetia Miles said he was active in band and took Japanese before graduating in 1998. He was also in the chess club.

Kazmierczak spent more than a year at the Thresholds-Mary Hill House in the late 1990s, former house manager Louise Gbadamashi told the AP.

"He never wanted to identify with being mentally ill," she said. "That was part of the problem."

A man who answered the telephone at Mary Hill House on Friday night referred questions to officials in the company's corporate office. They did not immediately return messages left after business hours.

At NIU, six white crosses were placed on a snow-covered hill around the center of campus, which was closed Friday. They included the names of four victims _ Daniel Parmenter, Ryanne Mace, Julianna Gehant, Catalina Garcia. The two other crosses were blank, though officials have identified Kazmierczak's final victim as Gayle Dubowski.

Allyse Jerome, 19, a sophomore from Schaumburg, recalled how the gunman, dressed in black and a stocking cap, burst through a stage door in 200-seat Cole Hall just before class was about to let out. He squeezed off more than 50 shots as screaming students ran and crawled for cover.

"Honestly, at first everyone thought it was a joke," Jerome said. Everyone hit the floor, she said. Then she got up and ran, but tripped. She said she felt like "an open target."

"He could've decided to get me," Jerome said. "I thought for sure he was going to get me."

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Associated Press writers Tamara Starks, Don Babwin, Caryn Rousseau, Ashley M. Heher, Dave Carpenter, Carla K. Johnson, Lindsey Tanner, David Mercer, Nguyen Huy Vu, Michael Tarm and Mike Robinson in Chicago, Anthony McCartney in Lakeland, Fla., and Matt Apuzzo and Lolita Baldor in Washington contributed to this report, along with the AP News Research Center in New York.

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- research See Profile I'm a Fan of research permalink

Gun Control: Ghandi was against it, Hitler was for it.

What else do you need to know?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 02/21/2008
- skyblu See Profile I'm a Fan of skyblu permalink

guys, here is the quote with which i meant to preface my comment above. please excuse.

"Late Friday, a former employee at a Chicago psychiatric treatment center told The Associated Press that Kazmierczak was placed there after high school by his parents. She said he used to cut himself, and had resisted taking his medications."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 02/19/2008
- skyblu See Profile I'm a Fan of skyblu permalink



Not about guns but it is about guns. It is about the false belief there is such a thing as 'background' checks for gun purchases. There is no 'system' whatsover. And even if there were it could not and would not work.

Please note: the guy had a history of psychiatric problems and he didn't want to be labeled "mentally ill" and he resisted taking medications. What happened then? Nothing? What is glaringly amiss are the facts. Are "pills" as administered by the US "healthcare" insurance system the answer?

One and one counseling with a quality, professional trained psychologist (not social workers or 'counselers') could have made a huge difference in the lives of so many young Americans; the dead and the living, the perpetrators and the victims.

Healthcare insurance that pays for pills but not help; and lack of appropriate, qualified psychotherapists (not sex counselors playing therepist as in the case of "Cho") whose concern is the one who is 'ill' rather than there own self image, are front and center the root cause to this epidemic of massacres on college campuses.

Neither Cho nor Steve K's acts of violence occurred in a vacuum and to believe otherwise is self delusion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 AM on 02/19/2008
- SteveStephens See Profile I'm a Fan of SteveStephens permalink

And old friend of mine that passed away several years ago met Hitler at the 1938 Olympics. He found him very nice and charming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 02/18/2008
- BeeOplentee See Profile I'm a Fan of BeeOplentee permalink

It's astonishing how many frightened cowards come out of the woodwork when one of these bloody aberations unfortunately occurs. From their trembling lips utterances of BAN GUNS fills the liberal blogs.

Bullshit.

Take responsibility for your self defense in your own hands. Grow a pair of balls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 02/16/2008
- SteveStephens See Profile I'm a Fan of SteveStephens permalink

Hi Bee. I'm a liberal with a BlackBelt.Why don't you call me a coward that to my face, and watch me tremble. You'll learn in about 5 seconds how frightenen I am.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 02/18/2008
- BeeOplentee See Profile I'm a Fan of BeeOplentee permalink

Hi Steve. Your BlackBelt would look pretty ridiculous against my Walther PPK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 02/19/2008
- Jonahson See Profile I'm a Fan of Jonahson permalink

I am keen to know exactly what solution(s) do gun advocates have in mind for solving situations such as the one in N. lllinois U.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 02/18/2008
- shedances See Profile I'm a Fan of shedances permalink

You know nothing about gun issues & gun violence problems in our country, do you Bee? Fortunately, not everyone is so ignorant.

K

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 02/17/2008
- Thirdpower See Profile I'm a Fan of Thirdpower permalink

Right, everyone could be like you. Someone who has admitted to refusing to be educated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 02/17/2008
- Jonahson See Profile I'm a Fan of Jonahson permalink

Perhaps the situation in some part of this country is so unsafe because of easy access to guns that now you need a gun to feel safe. Perhaps now it may be a valid reason to own a gun.
It used to be to defend against robbers and muggers, you are prepared for such situations and you can react to it if the need arises.
Now you get shot at in places and by people you least expect to happen.In the first place if guns weren't easily available, such killings may not even happen.
Sorry to say this but many people in this country, while being well inform with what is going on within, know nuts about the world outside US except maybe for the countries Bush invaded. In this blog alone there are so many comments given about countries that ban gun ownership and their citizens feel a lot safer and their country don't have mass killing like in the US.
If you think US is the World and everybody must follow US standard then you better open your eyes and learn a thing or two from others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 02/16/2008
- BicycleRepairman See Profile I'm a Fan of BicycleRepairman permalink

Here is a great resource page for all you gun owners out there.

http://www.nra-kkk.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 02/15/2008
- fact finder See Profile I'm a Fan of fact finder permalink

bicycle; But the wording sucked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 02/16/2008
- fact finder See Profile I'm a Fan of fact finder permalink

Bicyclerepairman; Dumb ass that is an ad for toys not guns . get a forking life or go back on your medz in the basement. 1776

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 02/16/2008
- BicycleRepairman See Profile I'm a Fan of BicycleRepairman permalink

Typical low IQ gun nut who is incapable of detecting sarcasm and is obviously too dumb to cross the street on his own let alone have a loaded weapon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 02/16/2008
- Thirdpower See Profile I'm a Fan of Thirdpower permalink

Or you could try telling the truth.

http://www.nrahq.org/safety/eddie/fact.asp

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 02/15/2008
- caracas See Profile I'm a Fan of caracas permalink

Gun addicts are in much the same denial mode as alcoholics. One loves their drink; the other loves their firearms and they will go to any length to justify and rationalize their addiction.
With any such compulsive behavior the addict has to reach rock bottom before they see the destructiveness of their actions. With an alcoholic it frequently takes the loss of job and loved ones before they begin to help themselves. Fortunately for them their is help and solace through AA.
The gun addict though, can even lose a loved one to gunfire and will continue to think the same way because he has the NRA, composed of fellow deranged individuals to enable his behavior.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 02/15/2008
- Thirdpower See Profile I'm a Fan of Thirdpower permalink

More emotional rhetoric, ad hominems and false comparisons.

Really folks, can't you do any better?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 02/15/2008
- HomelandSecurity See Profile I'm a Fan of HomelandSecurity permalink

Wow, you just helped to prove his point with your empty, unreasoned bluster.

Perfect denial.
Well done Thirdpower!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 02/15/2008
- Coyote2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Coyote2 permalink

-MURDERS WITH FIREARMS (per capita) (most recent) by country.

-From highest murder rate to lowest.

-AMERICA IS WITHIN TOP TEN of the most (gun) murderous countries in the world.

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#1 South Africa: 7.2 per 10,000 people


#2 Colombia: 5 per 10,000 people


#3 Thailand: 3.1 per 10,000 people

#8 United States: .3 per 10,000 people

#20 Canada: .05 per 10,000 people (gun control)

#32 United Kingdom: .01 per 10,000 people (severe gun control)

-England is at the bottom of the list.

-Japan (guns not allowed) does not even make the list

-PROOF THAT GUN OWNERSHIP DOES NOT REDUCE GUN MURDER RATES

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir_percap-crime-murders-firearms-per-capita

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 02/15/2008
- fact finder See Profile I'm a Fan of fact finder permalink

Coyote2; America also has the highest rate of deaths by drugs and drunk drivers. 1776 Game , Set, Match.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 02/16/2008
- Thirdpower See Profile I'm a Fan of Thirdpower permalink

Did you need to play the "top of the post game" w. your cherry picked statistics? What are the historical trends in comparison to laws? Why does SA, Columbia, and Thailand have stricter gun control yet higher crime?

Why does the UN say this:

From the UN, which Nationmaster is gets its info from:
It should be noted that the crime statistics reported to the United Nations in the context of its various surveys on crime levels and criminal justice trends are incidents of victimization that have been reported to the authorities in any given country. That means that this data is subject to the same problems of accuracy as all official crime data. The variety of potential problems with recorded crime statistics is illustrated in the diagram below.

Oh, right, because when you're being patently dishonest, repeating yourself is all you've got.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 02/15/2008
- Coyote2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Coyote2 permalink

"That means that this data is subject to the same problems of accuracy as all official crime data."

:|

so, what's your point? That US crime stats are false in that they show a declining crime rate fro m 1973?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 02/15/2008
- Coyote2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Coyote2 permalink

"Why does SA, Columbia, and Thailand have stricter gun control yet higher crime? "

:|

stricter than England or Japan? gee, post your evidence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 02/15/2008
- Coyote2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Coyote2 permalink



That means with gun control, England has 1/30 of the gun murders that we do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 02/15/2008
- HopeforTom See Profile I'm a Fan of HopeforTom permalink

What happened at NIU is an absolute tragedy that has repeated itself too many times..

http://www.ssristories.com/index.php

If you look at all the school shootings, what is their common denominator? All the shooters were on some form of an ANTIDEPRESSANT. Just becasue you are on these meds: Zoloft, Paxil, Wellbutrin and so on that does not make you menatlly ill. These pills are being prescribed to anyone who had something sad happened to them and by going to a primary care physician, big mistake!, are given these meds as I quik fix. These meds should only be prescribed by psychiatrist who can make the proper diagnosis. What once was "sad life events" are now disorders.

The media is portraying the shooter as "mentally ill", "disturbed", but everyone who knew him say he was very smart, social, helpful and not the monster seen on TV. Don't you think the people closest to him would have known that he was mentally ill? I am very curious what meds he was on? These meds, induce mentall illness. The side effects of these meds include suicidal ideation, sleepwalking, hallucinations, paranoid ideation, anxiety, agitiation, insomnia and too many other to list and if prescribed with other meds such as Ambien, or taken with alcohol and even nicotine, their side effects magnify exponentially.

The problem is not found in the guns, the shooters, the security, metal detectors..The problem are the deadly pills that the pharamceutical companies produce and push into the main stream and the FDA who approves them knowing very well what dangers they pose.

Here are some interesting reports about these meds:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gUchjOKxKY8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OyPuE314SDQ&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=U2Sd73DQ2J0

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3609599239524875493&q=DRUGGING%2BOF%2BOUR%2BCHILDREN

I know that these meds do help, those that are properly diagnosed, but they really hurt those that are not!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 02/15/2008
- HopeforTom See Profile I'm a Fan of HopeforTom permalink

My statement comes from PERSONAL family experience. It has nothing to do with Sciencetology. Unless you or someone you love has gone through an incorrect diagnosis and suffered serious, even criminal tragedy as a result of these drugs, you really have no business commenting and insulting others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 02/16/2008