Obama Won't Pledge to Take Public Funds

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JIM KUHNHENN | February 14, 2008 09:14 PM EST | AP

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DAYTON, Ohio — If Sen. Barack Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, he faces a financial dilemma: Use his vaunted fundraising operation for the general election or limit himself by accepting public funds.

Last year, Obama indicated he would accept public funds if his Republican opponent did as well. On Thursday, however, his spokesman hedged, and campaign finance watchdog groups are ready to pounce.

Based on past statements, Obama and Republican presidential candidate John McCain have indicated that if each was nominated, a spending and fundraising armistice was possible.

"If Senator Obama is the nominee, he will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said last March. Obama affirmed the position in a questionnaire last November.

Similarly, then McCain campaign manager Terry Nelson said at the time: "Should John McCain win the Republican nomination, we will agree to accept public financing in the general election if the Democratic nominee agrees to do the same."

Those conditional commitments came after Obama asked the Federal Election Commission whether he could raise general election money during 2007 but return it if he chose to accept the public funds.

The issue resurfaced this month when McCain emerged as the likely Republican nominee and as Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton jostled for the lead in the Democratic contest.

McCain advisers have said in recent days that he would abide by his proposal.

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But on Thursday, Burton said any speculation about what Obama will do is premature.

"This is a question we will focus on directly if he is the nominee," he said. "It was something that we pursued with the FEC and it was an option that we wanted on the table and is on the table."

Asked if the campaign's earlier position amounted to a pledge, Burton said: "No, there is no pledge."

McCain said he thought he and Obama had agreed on the issue.

"We had an agreement, as I recall, months ago that if he were the candidate and I were the candidate we would both accept public funding for the general election. That still holds," McCain told reporters on his campaign plane. "I didn't know of any resistance."

Fred Wertheimer, president of the advocacy group Democracy 21, said he and others who want to curtail the role of money in politics intend to step up their pressure on Obama to accept public money if he is the Democratic nominee.

"We expect Senator Obama to meet the public commitment he made and to agree to use public financing in the general election if he is nominated and his major party opponent agrees to do the same," Wertheimer said.

In response to a questionnaire in November from the Midwest Democracy Network, a group of nonpartisan government oversight groups, Obama said: "Senator John McCain has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."

Candidates who accept public funds would be eligible for about $85 million in public money. The funds come from a presidential financing program paid for with a $3 checkoff on tax returns.

While presidential candidates have rejected public financing in primaries, no major party candidate has bypassed the system in the general election since the program was created in the wake of the Watergate scandal in the 1970s.

This time, however, McCain, Obama and Clinton have raised money for the general election. Clinton has raised the most, $19.5 million, and has made no commitment to take public financing.

Obama has raised $6.1 million and McCain has raised $2.2 million for the general. If they take public funds, they would have to return the money they raised.

If McCain and Obama agree to take the federal money and forgo fundraising, McCain would be a clear beneficiary since Obama has proven himself as a multimillion-dollar fundraiser. His campaign raised a whopping $32 million for the primary in January alone.

Still, the national parties and outside groups are also gearing up to play a role in the fall campaign.

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Associated Press Writer Liz Sidoti contributed to this report.

DAYTON, Ohio — If Sen. Barack Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, he faces a financial dilemma: Use his vaunted fundraising operation for the general election or limit himself by accepting pub...
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"We expect Senator Obama to meet the public commitment he made and to agree to use public financing in the general election if he is nominated and his major party opponent agrees to do the same," Wertheimer said.

Obama said he would "pursue" it, he did not make a commitment, pledge or agreement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 02/15/2008
- NC4Obama I'm a Fan of NC4Obama 16 fans permalink

obama's spokesman said he would pursue it when and if he won the democratic nomination. Last time i checked Hillary was still fighting for it but if she wants to just quit now so Obama can focus his attention on the general election then thats fine with me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 02/15/2008
- lungfish I'm a Fan of lungfish 106 fans permalink
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When McCain aka a "Mr. FlipFlop" cares to live up to his word rather than just pretend that he isn't accountable for what he says he will have the right to judge Obama. Otherwise,,,,, STFU.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 02/15/2008
- Zhonni I'm a Fan of Zhonni 15 fans permalink
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My solution segment is a must read and tell me what you think about it.******

I must confess for the first time I am conflicted about a political issue, as in which side to support.

I know that McCain is asking for public funds because he is not raising enough money and wants to stop Obama from outraising him.

Quite frankly, Obama is being funded by the public because it is the American people that is funding his campaign. McCain on the other hand have taken money from the lobbyist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 02/15/2008
- Zhonni I'm a Fan of Zhonni 15 fans permalink
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SOLUTION:

Call McCains bluff, and tell him to go ahead and take it if he means it. If McCain takes it, then Obama should. How we are going to stump McCain is that he would be running a general election campaign as soon as June. That would mean he will have to spend 85million in 5months.

If Obama is our nominee and this is apparent after March 4th, Clinton should stay in till August 25th when the Democrats would have their convention. In which case Obama would be running a primary campaign till that time. Which means Obama would be able to spend 85million in 3 months.

This would mean McCain will be able to spend 17million per month and Obama will be able to spend 28million a month because his general will not start effectively until after August.

SEN. OBAMA, I AM WAITING FOR MY CHECK IN THE MAIL FOR THE SOLUTION I JUST PROVIDED!!! lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 02/15/2008
- vbond I'm a Fan of vbond 14 fans permalink

1. There was neither a pledge nor a "pledge."

2. McCain is not that smart.

3. Obama is not that stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 02/15/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

"If Senator Obama is the nominee, he will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said last March. Obama affirmed the position in a questionnaire last November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 02/15/2008

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John, why bother making statements about what others have promised?

You won't remember what someone promised a week later anyhow.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 02/15/2008
- jhink465 I'm a Fan of jhink465 13 fans permalink

There is money in politics and there is dirty money in politics. Small contributions from a lot of individual contributors is aq lot different than large donations from lobbyists and pacs intended to buy special favors from their candidates. The $85 million offered from public funding just won't get the message out in the face of 527's and other financing that will come from special interest groups.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 02/15/2008

So why did Obama make the promise and challenge all the others to accept the challenge if he was not going to keep the promise. "Change you can believe" in is fast becoming a joke and you true believers will twist yourselves into pretzels to justify it. Win at any cost is the very thing most of you have attacked Hillary for repeatedly. But in the face of reality you will adapt the tactic without blinking an eye. Get off your moral high horse and admit the truth you and your candidate are no better!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 02/15/2008
- XYZ I'm a Fan of XYZ 2 fans permalink

I don't think Obama realized his money making potential when he made that commitment.

Life sucks as a polititan... Live by your word or die by it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 AM on 02/16/2008
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Exactly! Fighting off swiftboaters will cost a lot more than 85 million!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 02/16/2008

"John the Flip-Flopper" flip-flopped on torture so here's a solution since he has no shame:

Shove $ bills up his cranky ass till he admits to being a flip-flopper who sold his stinking soul to the Conservatives he now does so covet. (What a paragon of character.) Then give him his fu(kin' money and hope to God he loses like the liar and fool that he is.

Then take special interest money "John the Flip-Flopper," you know, so your desire for power can overide your alleged convictions and moral stances about ethical government of, for, and by the people. That is the message you've tried to send...isn't it John the Flip=Flopper?

You are just another a$$hole flip-flopper John.

What a schmuck!

And I'm a Vet, and ex-Repub now, too.

Hubris is not a foreign policy.

Fear is not a "strategery."

Flip-flopping is not taking an ethical stance.

Hugging George "The Crawford BrushHog" Bush...well...that's just plain disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 02/15/2008
- dlswriter I'm a Fan of dlswriter 22 fans permalink

We should demand to see McCain's health records. He has a tumor on the left side of his mouth the size of a grapefruit. What the hell is that? His left cheek is blown-out like he's got a grapefruit in there. I'm sure this guy has got a tumor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 02/15/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 201 fans permalink
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He has suffered with many heath problems.

My guess: The GOP Party Heads will demand McWar

gets a medical physical from a doctor of THEIR choice

and not his own.

Then if his health is in question, Mitt will return to

the campaign and become the GOP Nominee.

McWar's funding promise become mute.

AND

MITTENS DELVES INTO HIS MASSIVE FORTUNE FOR

THE GENERAL ELECTION.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 02/15/2008

HE AGREED TO NOTHING!!! JUST BECAUSE HIS CAMPAIGN TALKED ABOUT IT, OVER A YEAR AGO AND SAID MAYBE, DOESN'T MAKE IT A PLEDGE. AND MCCAIN KNOWS IT. Read inal times piece it says nothing about a pledge, nor is it from Obama himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 02/15/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

"If Senator Obama is the nominee, he will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said last March. Obama affirmed the position in a questionnaire last November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 02/15/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 201 fans permalink
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Pursuing an agreement, not yet made, is nothing

more than saying, "I will seriously consider............"

And at this point in time, he owes nothing to John

McWar. Obama should wait and see if he does

become the Dem nominee. Then consider it...........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 02/15/2008
- XYZ I'm a Fan of XYZ 2 fans permalink

Obama's best strategy is to ignore McCain... Just ignore him let him blast on about whatever... He will be seen as the grumpy old fart.. Obama just keep on plugging away the best way to defeat the repubs is not to pay them any attention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 AM on 02/16/2008
- KaAp I'm a Fan of KaAp 23 fans permalink

I am sure that Obama will deal with this once he has the nomination but first he has to defeat the Clinton slime machine ... I am sure McCain will be a breeze after that ...
The other thing is that if McCain can flip on something like torture and I have respected him for years and years because he took principled stands supposedly --- he can change his mind about the campaign finances as well ... oh oh how disappointing ...
So let Obama get the nomination first ...
Or, let McCain issue the same challenge to Hillary after all it is really sexist not to include her as well?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 02/15/2008

Why drag her into he is the one who made big promises. If he doesn't want to keep them so be it. Why do you feel you people can attack her at every turn then drag her into the crap your candidate created. This deflection on your part is growing very tired. If he doesn't want to keep his word that is between him and his followers. Do you people really think he gets a free ride to the White House? That he can say anything he wants and not be held accountable. You people need to stop whining everytime the Clintons say something that you don't like about your candidate, because they have treated him with kid gloves. Do you think the republicans will be as gentile?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 02/15/2008
- RusStyles I'm a Fan of RusStyles 56 fans permalink
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He needs to ascertain what other unmonitored funds the other side might be receiving beofre signing off on any agreement. To do otherwise might leave him on the short-side of the fund raising stick. If they're playing from the same, clean 52-card deck, then he'll go with the public $...If not, he needs to do what ge needs to do to maintain a competitive campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 02/15/2008

"He needs to ascertain what other unmonitored funds the other side might be receiving beofre signing off on any agreement. To do otherwise might leave him on the short-side of the fund raising stick. If they're playing from the same, clean 52-card deck, then he'll go with the public $...If not, he needs to do what ge needs to do to maintain a competitive campaign."

Wow maybe he should have clarified that when he challenged all the other Democratic candidates to make the same commitment and then trashed them for not agreeing to it. Maybe more of them would have been willing to take his pledge if he had included all the escape clauses that are now being written into it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 02/15/2008
- elr50 I'm a Fan of elr50 20 fans permalink

Since when has ANY Republican been accused of being too honest? The chief liar is right in the White House, and got there by lying. Started a war by lying. Better clean your own house first, you lying sack of cr-p.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 02/15/2008
- Gary47 I'm a Fan of Gary47 15 fans permalink

Let's see. Obama is running his campaign the way any republican runs (or would like to run) their campaign. The only thing is, this time, the Democrats have more money. Oops, better figure out a way to tie their hands. Why should the Democrats play according to the republican version of "fairness"? Forget it about dudes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 02/15/2008
- XYZ I'm a Fan of XYZ 2 fans permalink

Because to not play fair you would be just like the republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 AM on 02/16/2008
- KISSman I'm a Fan of KISSman 7 fans permalink
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If he wants to lose, he should accept the public funds. The system is still plenty f**ked and the guy who is Mr. Campaign Finance Reform won't even take 'em until he has to.

If McCain was bold enough and believed in the concept, he wouldn't need to wait for Obama to agree to them. McCain knows full well that Obama isn't going to take them (and nor will he) and then he's going to try and use this against Obama.

McCain also wants to try and box Obama in because he has such a problem raising money and knows that Obama will easily double him in funds for the general election.

This was probabaly a Karl Rove idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 02/15/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

No, it's called not letting him BS like the Dem party forced Hillary to do.

Here's Obama's promise:"If Senator Obama is the nominee, he will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said last March. Obama affirmed the position in a questionnaire last November.

Rovian, my foot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 02/15/2008
- amberglow I'm a Fan of amberglow 6 fans permalink

yup--Obama is totally going back on his word--just another politician--nothing new here when it comes down to truth or courage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 02/15/2008

So if he wants to win he should break one of the first promises he made. As a matter of fact this is a reason that many of his supporters give for their support. So If he starts breaking promises before the primary is even over how exactly is that a change from politics as usual? Or should I say how is that a change we can believe in?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 02/15/2008

Just curious. Why do people keep saying that Obama has little experience, when infact he has tons more then Bill Clinton did when he first ran for office? I doubt any Clinton supporter will try to answer this question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 02/15/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

Because you are so very wrong.

LOL*

Bill was the senior governor in the country.

He had been governor for 2 full terms.

Hillary has more national experience than Obama.

Obama was merely a state legislator until 3 years ago.

He IS inexperienced, nationally speaking.

And there's no getting around that fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 02/15/2008

I'm an Obama supporter and you're not quite right about that. You can review his career at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_clinton#Governor_of_Arkansas
He was the governor of Arkansas for 12 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 02/15/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

Yeah he was a governor for 12 years and his state was last in education for many years. OK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 02/15/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

Sorry, I forgot about the 3rd term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 02/15/2008
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