Mystery: NY Results Say Obama Got Zero Votes In 80 Districts

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First Posted: 02-16-08 04:20 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:45 AM

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Black voters are heavily represented in the 94th Election District in Harlem's 70th Assembly District. Yet according to the unofficial results from the New York Democratic primary last week, not a single vote in the district was cast for Senator Barack Obama.

That anomaly was not unique. In fact, a review by The New York Times of the unofficial results reported on primary night found about 80 election districts among the city's 6,106 where Mr. Obama supposedly did not receive even one vote, including cases where he ran a respectable race in a nearby district.

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Black voters are heavily represented in the 94th Election District in Harlem's 70th Assembly District. Yet according to the unofficial results from the New York Democratic primary last week, not a sin...
Black voters are heavily represented in the 94th Election District in Harlem's 70th Assembly District. Yet according to the unofficial results from the New York Democratic primary last week, not a sin...
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I also heard from someone that chunks of pages from books of registered voters weren't at the poll cite the day of the election. People were denied a right! Sorry but this does happen from the top and the board of Elections people have some explaining to do!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 02/19/2008

I know these missing votes had to be human error and I wouldn't put it past intentional. I know in my own little town of 2000 I worked the polls and this is an all White republican farming town and we had 40 votes for Obama. Obviously Bill and Hillary are using the system and probably paying people. I witnessed elected officals afraid to Endorce Him because of promises she has made to people they remained quiet. She paid staff to work for her and used Dem Headquarters to petition out of. I bet the whole western NY regions numbers are wrong as well, Western NY's don't like her and even in petitioning he did better.
Looks Fishy and I demand a recount!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 02/19/2008
- rbrooks I'm a Fan of rbrooks 8 fans permalink

If you can stand to inform yourself on the state of our elections, watch this film.

http://www.uncountedthemovie.com/about-the-film.html

Or watch this one:

http://www.hackingdemocracy.com/

There are innumerable ways to steal an election. Voting machines are the best method yet devised: designed to make hacking insanely easy and to leave no trace. Why are so many people in this country in denial about this? It's nightmare-making to contemplate the fact that so many elections in this country not decided by voters - but it's a fact and it isn't exactly news.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/magazine/06Vote-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Does anyone know exactly what voting machine systems were used in the New York primary?

Given the vulnerability that is purposefully designed into the Diebold, Sequoia, ES&S, etc., voting systems, totals could have been altered at any level, precinct, city, state: replacing a memory card takes about 5 seconds and leaves absolutely no trace.

When someone remarks on a surprise victory that has no rational explanation, the thieves can, and do, sit back, smirk, crow "prove it," and bitch about those crazy inaccurate polls. Then those of us who are pretty sure we just got royally hosed - again - get to slink off muttering.

The New Hampshire election was almost certainly hacked. The paper ballots in 81% of NH counties were tabulated by Diebold. According to the totals, Hillary Clinton won over Barack Obama 39.4% to 36.8%. According to the Diebold AccVote Optical-Scan voting machine count, Hillary took 52.95% of the votes compared to 47.05% for Obama. However, the paper ballot count in the non-Diebold counties gave Obama 52.93% of the votes compared to 47.07% for Hillary. Isn't that worth a puzzled frown?

The New Hampshire recount was a "criminal enterprise," according to blackboxvoting.org's Bev Harris.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM

Whatever you care about, unless we clean up our elections, you can kiss it goodbye. That is, unless you are Halliburton or Blackwater.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 02/19/2008
- Rachel36 I'm a Fan of Rachel36 5 fans permalink

The gentleman who designed the software was a former roommate of Jeb Bush. He also testified before a Grand Jury that the results could easily be manipulated to bring about any desired voting result.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 02/19/2008

Thank You, for this information. Utterly DEPRESSING!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 02/19/2008
- marinade I'm a Fan of marinade 49 fans permalink

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hmsMHBNK1Tq-YZqsW4FAocXAuDSQD8UL6N8O0

Remember the undervote in Florida? It has been tidily swept under the rug:

A team of university computer experts who examined the machines after the election suggested the problem was voter confusion over a poorly designed ballot that had drawn complaints from voters. The District 13 race was listed at the top of the second page of the ballot without the same type of header that preceded other races on the ballot.

"GAO acknowledges the possibility that the large undervote in Florida's 13th Congressional District race could have been caused by factors such as voters who intentionally undervoted or voters who did not properly cast their ballots on the (voting machines), potentially because of issues relating to interaction between voters and ballot," the government report said.


How's that for reassurance? They are pretty sure that maybe there might have been some kind of design flaw in the ballot that possibly might have caused voters to screw up their votes. Yeah, right, the voters screwed up, not the machines.

Do you think maybe there ought to be a way to be ABSOLUTELY SURE the fucking machines are working?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 02/19/2008
- FlowerGirl I'm a Fan of FlowerGirl 25 fans permalink

Hey! They work. And they work exactly as they are designed to work.
Did you have the idea that they were meant to work for you?
Ha! They work for the crooks who control them, darling.
Now you know why Obama can lose to Her Royal Crookedness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 02/19/2008
- ndolomar I'm a Fan of ndolomar 11 fans permalink

OK, in plain, understandable language: all the candidates agreed fl and mi votes would not be added to the delegate tally. now, while it's easy to manipulate the language to say the votes "won't count" or that voters are being "disenfranchised," the point of fact is they all agreed. however, now it's becoming a convenient talking point to score a political point by saying these voters are being disenfranchised and blaming obama's campaign for it -- when everybody knows good and well (and there is hard-copy evidence) that clinton, edwards and obama agreed not to accept delegates from those two states. not sure whether obama would react the same way if the shoe were on the other foot, but that hypothetical has no place in this argument, because that's not the situation. clinton knew, and now she's trying to garner votes by changing the rules and creating a fear tactic to paint obama in a negative light and scare the dnc into swaying the nomination her way. people should stop blindly following her fingerpointing at obama and the dnc and instead ask their local democratic party officials why they allowed this to happen, and they should ask clinton why she's had a sudden change of heart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 02/18/2008

What in the world are you talking about? Did you read this article? It is about irregularities from Voting machines, and districts, and votes being discounted, changed and manipulated. This happened in every primary. It effected outcomes for all the Dem's that ran! What is the matter with the religous Obama people?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 02/18/2008
- ntmessage I'm a Fan of ntmessage 38 fans permalink

OK, in plan language for you to understand.

1. Disenfranchised voters trump any party decisions even if the party establishment and elite agreed. This fundamental value and right is beyond reproach. The moral and legal ground in the constitution is to count all the votes. No excuses. No one can make those decistions unilaterally. This is not about DNC, obama or Clinton. You cannot ignore or not count 2.3 Million voters in a democracy.
2. On a moral level, the democrats seed any advantage they had regarding republican suppression of the voter campaigns and misconduct.
3. On a practical level, blowing off these swing states will mean that the Democrats lose those states in the general.

Get that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 02/19/2008
- Thurber I'm a Fan of Thurber 16 fans permalink

Moral level?!? Are you serious? You want us to seat delegates from FL & MI primaries that not only broke the rules but in MI only had ONE CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT (just so happened to be Hillary Clinton). This isn't the USSR, not that you could tell by listening to the Clinton Camp.

Now they want to disenfranchise voters who voted in elections that FOLLOWED THE RULES, by trying to swing pledged delegates away from Obama, i.e. get them to break their signed pledges to vote a certain way, kinda like Hillary breaking her pledge not to accept delegates from FL and MI. The fish rots from the head down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 02/19/2008

Ok, Finally someone is looking at these voting machines and saying something. It is my guess that John Edwards Won in the South and probably picked up whole lot of votes in New Hampshire and everywhere else he ran, but the machines were set to make it a 2 person race in the Dem party--Clinton and Obama. His votes were changed. Right now we have "two frontrunners" who have disenfrachised the people of this country, and they only care if it pertains to them. The electronic voting scandal makes the US worse then any 3rd world country we have sent Jimmy Carter to watch. Bush NEVER won in 2000 & 2004. I repeat, Bush NEVER won in 2000 & 2004. We are in trouble now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 02/18/2008
- anthonylee I'm a Fan of anthonylee 4 fans permalink
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Is it me, am I missing something? Why isn't anyone talking about why Hillary doesn't do well in the Caucus Primary States? Simple answer . . . . there's no opportunity to lose votes or disenfranchise voters!

Maybe this is what the Clinton's (2 for 1) mean when they say they're the only ones capable of beating the Republican in the General - they learned well from the Bush, Jr. election cycles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 02/18/2008
- westreal I'm a Fan of westreal 20 fans permalink

THANK YOU for pointing this out. Hillary likes to say that Obama supporters manhandle caucus voters. But the more logical explanation, given the anomalies of 2000, 2004, New Hampshire and New York (all Diebold machine counted) is that politicians are stealing elections. You can't do that in places where the votes are hand counted. That's why Obama consistently beat her by large margins in caucuses.

But in the age of technology there really isn't a reason to rely on the machines. I suggest we get rid of the antiquated "votes should be private" system and allow people to openly state who they are voting for. All votes should be counted and posted on a national database. If you're worried that your vote wasn't counted, check the database. It also allows for transparency in the tabulation of votes because irregularities would stand out like sore thumbs.

Now people would say "I don't want my employer to know who I voted for". Fine. Each district would have a password to access the database for their area ensuring privacy but allowing enough transparency to pick up voter fraud.

If we're forced to use these Diebold machines it should be OUR RIGHT TO CONFIRM THAT OUR VOTES WERE COUNTED THROUGH A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED DATABASE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 02/19/2008

After reading the responses in here, it is just amazing to see how easily Hillary Clinton supporters can brush off such obvious voting irregularities. I guess our democracy doesn't mean as much as getting your candidate elected, huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 02/18/2008

I don't necessarily think that the Clinton campaign had anything to do with it, but WHOA are Hillary's supporters angry at this news item.

I've never seen such personal identification with a political candidate. It's turning into a cult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 02/18/2008

Here is video of Hillary LOSING votes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGMgxFE6bms

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 02/18/2008
- CalliDem I'm a Fan of CalliDem 8 fans permalink

LOL...

I'm SURE that hillary HERSELF rigged the voting machines. After she killed Foster she and her lesbo lover paid off Monica so she could GAIN public support and run for Senator. And BILL Clinton has ALWAYS been a racist ... in FACT after they snuck in the headquaters and ERASED all the black votes in Harlem she, Bill and her lesbo went back to the white house, ceeped into the Lincolon bedroom and had SEX with the SLAVES that Bill has hidden in his Harlem office.THEN they blamed Obamma
because BILL hit a poor black guy in the face
yesterday on TV.

Hillory 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 02/18/2008
- candlewax I'm a Fan of candlewax 5 fans permalink

HRC, the candidate with lots of baggage. Even in jest, you show her many weaknesses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 02/18/2008
- CalliDem I'm a Fan of CalliDem 8 fans permalink

Yeah... he "Weakness' from the sick ass Republicans who have pushed this trash down the throats of the public for 15 years. But no worries .. IT WORKED ... Now they have the Obamabots spewing the SAME HATE

Yep ... the party OF CHANGE

I don't think so

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 02/18/2008

CalliDem, way to be objective. No matter who rigged the vote, it should matter. Atleast be honest with yourself instead of letting your bitterness at Hillary LOSING cloud your mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 02/18/2008

Calli,
You've just been schooled. If you really want to do your candidate a favor, you should stop posting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 02/18/2008
- ntmessage I'm a Fan of ntmessage 38 fans permalink

More planted crap for the parasites to latch onto. A real conspiracy in the middle of a town where people love the Clintons and Barack easily spotted as a phony lightweight.

In addition, they do not need to rig any election. Obama rigs those caucuses that coerce people to vote for the snake oil salesman, during the dog and pony show.

This *mystery* is clearly mischief planted by Obama supporters. Why don’t you spend some outrage at the disenfranchisement of millions of votes in MI and FL – states that do matter in the election?

Obama will not be able to get away with this type of sleazy behavior too much longer. His halo is fast disappearing and when the blind faithful wake up in the morning after the binge they are having – will they be surprised!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 02/18/2008
- candlewax I'm a Fan of candlewax 5 fans permalink

Barack Obama actually has more experience as an elected official than HRC. He spent 8 years as a state senator and 4 years, come November as a U.S. senator. HRC spent, come November, a total of 8 years with elected experience versus Barack's 12!!!

Sick of the lies! You can't count being a spouse of an elected official, as your own experience!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 02/18/2008
- melann830 I'm a Fan of melann830 6 fans permalink

She had prior experience working in side Washington D.C.. She was on the investigative panel who trying to bring forth the impeachment proceedings against Pres. Nixon. Trust me do not count only elected experience. Hillary's complete record makes Obama's look like small potatoes. By the way, Obama's camp stole the YES WE CAN from BOB THE BUILDER!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 02/19/2008
- GayGrandpa I'm a Fan of GayGrandpa 69 fans permalink

SCARY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 02/18/2008
- bino I'm a Fan of bino permalink

Where is the mystery? This is how things are done now. Did you people miss the last presidential election? American Idol has a more democratic system then American Government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 AM on 02/18/2008
- Krackonis I'm a Fan of Krackonis 6 fans permalink

I can't friggin believe you got suckered into "no paper trail voting"

How fucked do you have to be in the head to basically say:

"Hey, those who want to rule us with impunity, we don't need receipts for votes. Rig the election and call out on TV what the vote is, and we will believe you."


INSANE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 02/17/2008

Why is it so hard to have a paper trail anyways? Haven't they heard of printers. Print a copy of the vote, allow the voter to verify it was recorded correctly and drop it in the box. What is SO hard about that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 02/18/2008

What is so amazing is----EVERY so-called "big state" that Hillary has won----THERE HAS BEEN MAJOR DISCREPANCIES.

I wonder why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 02/17/2008
- SteveCox I'm a Fan of SteveCox 8 fans permalink
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Before you go around accusing people of rigging election, you ought to have your facts straight.

Why don't you try to go to Dailykos where they care a little more about getting the facts.

These totals, were the totals written down as UNOFFICAL totals. Not the actual count. It was human error. Clinton had several districts where she had 0 votes, too. That was also a clerical error.

As someone pointed out, if your trying to comit voter fraud, you don't do it by writing 0 in 80 districts.

They are auditing the whole thing and really, do you Obamababies have to try to exploit everything for political gain? That is not a new kind of politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 02/17/2008

Exploitation for political gain? I don't think that's what the above article was trying to say. Voting irregularities should be pointed out. They must not tell you that at Dailykos. Way to be objective!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 02/18/2008
- melann830 I'm a Fan of melann830 6 fans permalink

Oh, you mean like the ones where the Florida and Michigan voters were forced to be seated and not allowed to have their delegates count during the primaries-which Hillary would have cashed in on big time and would have her way ahead of Obama?? I don't hear you clamoring for their fairness and equality and complaining about their voting system. As a New Yorker, I feel it behooves you to understand some points. Even though Hillary is our beloved Senator, much of the New York area generally chooses republicans-Bloomberg, Pataki, Giuliani, D'amato, Fosella, Bruno, King etc.. Bill Clinton has a strong base within the Harlem Community since leaving the white house. New York loves the Clinton's. Its undeniable. The fact that Harlem and other alleged strong minority areas voted for Hillary reflects the loyalty New Yorkers feel with respect to Clinton setting up shop in Harlem, when he could have gone to any other part of NY and also Hillary's committment to New Yorkers during and post 9/11. Gee, I don't recall Obama lending a hand at this time. Blood is thicker than water. We are just not ready to forsake our blood relatives just yet. Not this time. By the way, I could say the same with respect to Hillary's poor turn out in Illinois, where she was reared. But you see Clinton supporters have far too much class to whine about losses and prefer to move forward to winning other states. One more thing, our elections process has served us well. This is just sour grapes from Obama's camp who just can't accept that New Yorkers of every color are far too saavy to fall for that "special" rhetoric he likes to disperse like confetti. We know Hillary's record and what she stands for. I hope this isn't too much for you to handle, but MANY of our black New Yorkers are extremely erudite, sophisticated and complex thinkers. Next time Obama's camp wants to belittle Clinton voters, they should re-evaluate who they actually are, multi-ethnic people who refuse to accept mediocrity, especially his.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 02/18/2008
- candlewax I'm a Fan of candlewax 5 fans permalink

Everyone knew and was being told long before that the delegates would not be seated in FL and MI. That's what they get for disobeying the rules and making up their own while every other state followed the rules and had their delegates count!

Obama supporters stayed home, the vote is worthless and in MI, Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot! Of course the vote should not count. If they want to have a revote - they should but they should not allow the travesty vote that occurred, to stand as it is because it is a lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 02/18/2008
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