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Sarkozy Ignites Anger With Holocaust Curriculum Proposal

New York Times   |  ELAINE SCIOLINO   |   February 16, 2008 09:59 AM


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President Nicolas Sarkozy dropped an intellectual bombshell this week, surprising the nation and touching off waves of protest with his revision of the school curriculum: beginning next fall, he said, every fifth grader will have to learn the life story of one of the 11,000 French children killed by the Nazis in the Holocaust.

"Nothing is more moving, for a child, than the story of a child his own age, who has the same games, the same joys and the same hopes as he, but who, in the dawn of the 1940s, had the bad fortune to be defined as a Jew," Mr. Sarkozy said at the end of a dinner speech to France's Jewish community on Wednesday night. He added that every French child should be "entrusted with the memory of a French child-victim of the Holocaust."

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the students can learn of one of these women as well.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7487

Sex slavery and Israel"s failure to fight the growing trade

Last year, the United Nations named Israel as one of the main destinations in the world for trafficked women.

Israel has been named as an offender in the annual U.S. State Department"s Trafficking in Persons (Tip) report, which condemned the Jewish state for not fully complying with the "minimum standards" to eliminate sex trafficking.

Canadian journalist and social activist Victor Malarek, "newspaper ads from modeling and employment agencies promise exciting jobs, but the women are duped¦ They must submit, or they are raped, beaten and tortured. There are between 5,000 and 10,000 trafficked women in Israel and more than 280 brothels in Tel Aviv alone. It is a human rights issue the Jewish community knows about. They have a voice and they must use it."

women are driven to slavery and sold in auctions that take place in nightclubs and bars. they are pimped, beaten and isolated. women are subjected to degrading human auctions, where they are stripped, examined and sold for $8,000-$10,000.

The BBC interviewed Marina.
I had a difficult life," said Marina, who came to Israel in 1999 at the age of 33 after answering a newspaper advertisement offering the opportunity to study abroad.

"I was taken to an apartment in Ashkelon, and other women there told me I was now in prostitution. I became hysterical, but a guy started hitting me and then others there raped me.

"I was then taken to a place where they sold me just sold me!" she said, recalling how she was locked in a windowless basement for a month, drank water from a toilet and was deprived of food.

Like Marina, women are trafficked into Israel legally on the false promise of jobs and better economic conditions. Recent figures show that from the beginning of the 1990s to the early years of 2000, an estimated 3,000 women a year were trafficked to Israel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 02/17/2008

You know this will only lead to Matzah in the school lunches, which leads to forced circumcisions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 02/17/2008

This guy'll do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to change the 2 foci on his being an agent for the Jewish state and that he's gay. Married a couple months after divorcing to 'divorce' himself from the scandal that he's had a gay, israeli lover for years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 02/17/2008

I think French kids will be a lot more interested in your past as a **MOSSAD AGENT**, Monsieur le President...

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/4280

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 02/17/2008

This allegation has not been corroborated by a single piece of evidence, other than an email that it seems originated at a cyber cafe in Val d'Oise.

In essence, you believe a worthless Email. Shows you to be amazingly naive, gullible, and willing to believe anything that ties anyone to Israel.

How are these not the actions of a delusional person?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 02/17/2008

Sure, French police like wasting time...
Right, they're not Israelis, meaning they're really not too smart...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 02/18/2008
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Sarkozy...what a populist, self-centered little gnome. I wouldn't trust him with a five dollar bill or a vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 02/17/2008

OK, but why not teach about the Jews, like Yagoda and Kaganovich who ran Stalin's Gulag, which killed millions. Why not teach about
the starvation of millions in the Ukraine by Kaganovich?? Where is the memorial to those
killed?? Why not teach about Beria and Sverdlov and Trotsky?? Why not teach about the Jew NY banker who funded the Bolshevik revolution?? Why not teach about the majority of the Bolshevik leaders being Jews?? Just the facts!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 AM on 02/17/2008

This is a racist statement.

Antisemitic in the highest, and this is why; they were communists, not Jews. This wasn't a Jewish plot, this was a mass revolt against a dynastic dictatorship. Marx and Stalin, the intellectual leaders of Communism weren't Jews. Neither was Engels.

Why not teach about the Pogroms, you sick fool?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 02/17/2008

I have to correct you here: Karl Marx was indeed a Jew...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 02/17/2008

I think you're being a little paranoid here. Biwee's point was that Jews aren't any better or worse than any other ethnic/religious group and they do have their share of butchers. But, of course, you believe that Jews are the "elected" people, so obviously much better than anyone else. And, of course, this is NOT a racist statement...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 02/17/2008

Can you spell liar?? Karl Marx was a German Jew.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 02/17/2008

Actually, Dendroica, Schiff (New York Jewish banker and, as American history books in school call him, "a great philanthropist") funded the Bolshevik Rev and hundreds of his NY brethren (also Jewish) went to Moscow to run the Rev. So they were indeed Jewish, and Jewish communists at that. Marx (born Jewish-Lutheran and became an athiest, which means he was a typical, non practicing Jew) wrote the Communist Manifesto with help from these same friends and did so in frickin' Soho (London). Doesn't sound all that "Russian."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 02/17/2008

Those are indeed part of the facts, but how many dead from the Bolshevik (Jewish from NY orchestrated and carried out) Revolution? Near 60 million? That's a full 54 million more than world war ii's halocaust (TM) tragedy. And the Ukraine, also under Jewish domination, with 7 million. Also more than the halocaust (TM).

These facts are very hard for those being paid to spew the opposite, the posters who try to ramrod these boards with pro-israel garbage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 02/17/2008
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halocaust(TM)...lol!

I'm unfortunately a typical American, ignorant of history. I'm blown away by this info.

Really.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 02/17/2008

" I guess the French have never heard of Anne Frank".
You are joking, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 02/16/2008

In Germany the Holocaust is treated in various school subjects in different ways.

* In history classes, the Nazi period is dealt with in the context of twentieth-century German history. Students receive a formal historical presentation of German history in the twentieth century twice -- during their final two years before graduation and at ninth or tenth grade level.

* In civic studies and current affairs classes, the lessons from the Holocaust are related to the teaching about Germany's political institutions and about the values that govern political life in a democratic society. When current affairs are discussed -- such as antisemitic incidents and rightwing extremism in Germany and elsewhere; ethnic cleansing in Bosnia; and, the Middle East conflict -- teachers will emphasize the importance of tolerance and the rule of law as lessons to be learned from the Holocaust.

* In religion or ethics classes, the Holocaust is discussed with reference to the guilt and responsibility of those Germans who did not risk their lives to fight National Socialism or to protect Jews. Since the notion of interreligious tolerance and the knowledge of other world religions are subjects of religious studies courses at German public schools, the teacher will often arrange a meeting with members of the organized Jewish community, a visit to the local synagogue, or to a Holocaust memorial or museum.
* Postwar German literature, above all in the 1950s and 1960s, is preoccupied with coming to terms with the Nazi era and the Holocaust. The fate of the Holocaust victims and what Germans did or did not do during the Third Reich often become subjects of German literature classes, when the works, novels, short stories, and plays of authors such as Alfred Andersch, Ilse Aichinger, Heinrich Böll, Günter Grass.

* A visit to a Holocaust memorial or a Holocaust museum at the site of a former concentration camp is a standard feature of school excursions. In fact, the largest category of visitors at former concentration camps is often German high-school students led by their teachers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 02/16/2008

In German schools they teach kids that the Holocaust was not an exclusively Jewish tragedy. 3 million Soviet prisoners died in camps that were just as bad as those where the Jews were detained (yep, good ol' Adolf didn't think the Russkies were racially any better than the Jews, regardless of their religion, or lack thereof...), and then Socialists (of every nationality), Communists (ditto), Anarchists (etc.), Liberals, "degenerate" artists, gays, Gypsies etc. etc. Are you forgetting them because they were not members of god's "elected" group?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 02/17/2008

Those Russians killed, were they killed due to their ethnicity or their passports?

That's the difference; Jews were killed without regard to their nationality. In war, you often kill people from the other nation you are fighting against, but rarely your own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 02/17/2008

I guess LoRise you've never heard of " Urban Moving Systems" or the "Dancing Israelis."
Or our new home game 'Where did Dominic Suter go ?' (tm)
Sarkozy is quickly becoming part of the problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 02/16/2008

sarkozoy would do the kids a favor and have them adopt a neoconman so they can understand what their leader's friends have in mind for the world.
a psych 101 student even today can see the behavioral manipulation sarkozy is ordering for the french. without the perpetuation of the victim myth the holocaust industry can't extort the money it does.....a sad irony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 02/16/2008

It seems that the world still hasn't forgiven the Jews for the Holocaust.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 02/16/2008

The Pretzeldent of France gets to set school curriculum?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 02/16/2008

Yes, in France, they have presidents who can read ...

LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 02/16/2008
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Who do you think initiated NCLB?

It would seem the US isn't the only country willing to give the fed way too much power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 02/17/2008

Sarkozy's idea is not so much about the Holocaust as about his desire to have his personal ideas on any subject become The Official Versions.

Regarding the Holocaust, Sarkozy is personally concerned with the Jewish victims, not with the Gypsy or other victims, so French children will be forced to identify only with the group Sarkozy identifies with. (He can't extend it to Gypsies since he himself has passed laws making life more difficult for them specifically, thereby proving that if anyone has learned nothing from the history of WW II, it is he.) The article, by the way, mistranslates "Shoah" (the genocide against the Jews) as "Holocaust" (all genocides committed by the Nazis). Sarkozy could not care less about the Holocaust, he is interested only in the Shoah, and so that is what French schoolchildren must be taught.

The latest idea from the man we in France call the omni-president is to make children sing the national anthem in school while standing at attention. That may sound normal in the US, but in Europe it's a throwback to the destructive patriotism that caused WW I and WW II, and yet another reminder that Sarkozy's version of history is a highly personal one.

The only light spot is that Sarkozy has made himself so totally ridiculous these past months that no one seriously believes his whims will be translated into law, not even by a Parliament in which he commands a constitutional majority.

Still it's depressing to think that he'll be around f...ing things up for another five years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 02/16/2008


What a horrible thing to do to school children. thank god I was not born french.

this shows how self obsessed people in power can become.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 02/16/2008


Yes, all we do is indoctrinate American children politically every single day by forcing them to pledge allegiance to the American flag whether they want to or not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 02/16/2008
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Glory be! The dark ages are making a comeback.

How in the hell do these religious fucking crazies rise to such high stations of power? If the answer is "It must be God's will", then the world and mankind are truly screwed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 02/16/2008
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