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Obama, Patrick Collaboration Noted Specifically By Globe Back In April 2007

February 18, 2008 03:07 PM


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Fresh accusations of plagiarism are being hurled at Barack Obama for his use of language on the stump that directly mirrors speeches given by Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick. But there is no fresh news here: in fact, this rhetorical connection between the two pols was noted by the Boston Globe way back in April of 2007.

In an article titled, "Patrick, Obama campaigns share language of 'hope,'" Globe reporter Scott Helman noted that the "just words" theme of Deval Patrick's speech were born out of accusations that mirror the ones Obama is facing now, and that Obama was present on one occasion when Patrick deployed the language:

Of all the things Deval Patrick's Republican opponent threw at him in last year's governor's race, one charge that stuck in his craw was that his speeches were more fluff than substance -- that they were, in Patrick's telling, "just words." So he devised an artful response.

" 'We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal' -- just words," Patrick said at a rally in Roxbury right before Election Day. " 'We have nothing to fear but fear itself' -- just words. . . . 'I have a dream' -- just words. They're all just words."

The crowd erupted as it got Patrick's point about the power of language. But perhaps no one at the rally understood the point better than Barack Obama, who had joined him on stage that night.

Similarly, the article from April 2007 specifically mentioned that the Obama campaign had every intention of studying the success of his friend, Patrick, as a model for his own Presidential run:


In the midst of his improbable run for office, Obama and his advisers have evidently studied Patrick's up-from-nowhere victory in Massachusetts and are borrowing themes, messages, and even specific lines for the presidential campaign.

Both men were said by the Globe to be -- at the time -- "learning from and feeding off each other." The root of their shared rhetoric was identified as David Axelrod, who advised both campaigns. And while Patrick did notably back away from using Obama's "Yes we can" refrain -- Patrick campaign advisor Dan Payne said at the time, "We definitely didn't want to copy him, Deval takes pride in his words and he wants to use them uniquely" -- there's no indication that either man objected to sharing rhetorical flourishes.

Similarly, there wasn't any indication back in April of last year that this matter was any cause for concern or complaint. State Democratic Party chair Phillip W. Johnston spoke of the two men with admiration: "We all said that we could have closed our eyes when Obama spoke [and] it could have been Deval. To us it was a similar kind of message. It's a message that transcends partisan politics."

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The point being missed, totally overlooked here, is that Hillary took her attack on Obama's speeches straight from the Republican playbook used by Deval Patrick's Republican opponent in the governor's race. She used the "same words." So to critized "the same response" to the same tactics is what --
hypocritical!!

So if it didn't work in the Mass campaign, why would the Clinton try the same tactic and expect it to work for them? Because the media is giving them assistance? This just shows more desperation from the Clinton Camp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 02/19/2008

Two Questions:

Has Obama ever held a single job for more than 4 consecutive years?

Has Obama ever worked (in any number of jobs) for more than 7 years without taking a multi-year break?

This guy might survive the campaign, but his record suggests not a lot of horsepower on the job. Nevermind executive experience, this guy has a serious deficit of work experience of any kind.

One of the (few) constitutional requirements for presidents is they must be at least 35 years old on taking office. Seems reasonable - probably ensures some degree of minimum maturity and work experience. But, of course, most serious 35 year olds have more work experience than Obama (despite his being 11 years older).

At best this guy might be qualified to be a bureaucrat or work for some sleepy not-for-profit.

http://tinyurl.com/2mb5f4

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 02/19/2008
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Is it a stereotypical criticism of a black politician to say that he/she is all speeches? It's beginning to look that way. If they are sharing notes and coming up with a united response then they are reacting to something they commonly face. Kind of like my sisters and I have a standard response to a blonde joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 02/19/2008
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The character Congressman Santos in the West Wing Season Six when he launched his bid for the White House also gave a good speech on HOPE, maybe Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick got it from him and this specific episode.

Anyway no one owns hope, or the idea of it.

Also there really is nothing new under the sun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 02/19/2008

Hillary never gave credit to Barbara Feinmann Todd for ghostwriting "It Takes A Village." That has been well documented.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/0707/096.html

Hillary is credited as being the author. She was supposed to give credit to Feinmann Todd...she did not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 02/19/2008

I warned all Obama supporters last week who were proudly prancing around the web fighting to claim the mantle of frontrunner that this would happen. Frontrunners get taken down...even by baseless, senseless, irrelevant stories such as this one. Hillary can't beat McCain, he even has my vote and that of all my colleagues, friends, and family over Billary. It is extra special for all so called reporters to take down Obama and maintain the country's white patriarchal rule ; it is something their subconsciouses relishes even when they try to hide it from their readers and viewers.

To the naively overzealous supporters who couldn't get talked down soon enough, welcome to your status as front runner...it will only get worse for our candidate and he may just lose the nomination because there are many factors at play here and the strongest one is the one that has been present for over four hundred years in this country. Let's continue to fight the good fight but take the medicine as it comes. We can still triumph if we hone our message, get our boots on the ground, VOLUNTEER like there will be no tomorrow, and VOTE (we don't need anymore embarrassing opportunists like "ObamaGirl").

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 02/19/2008

I warned all Obama supporters last week who were proudly prancing around the web fighting to claim the mantle of frontrunner that this would happen. Frontrunners get taken down...even by baseless, senseless, irrelevant stories such as this one. Hillary can't beat McCain, he even has my vote and that of all my colleagues, friends, and family over Billary. It is extra special for all so called reporters to take down Obama and maintain the country's white patriarchal rule ; it is something their subconsciouses relishes even when they try to hide it from their readers and viewers.

To the naively overzealous supporters who couldn't get talked down soon enough, welcome to your status as front runner...it will only get worse for our candidate and he may just lose the nomination because there are many factors at play here and the strongest one is the one that has been present for over four hundred years in this country. Let's continue to fight the good fight but take the medicine as it comes. We can still triumph if we hone our message, get our boots on the ground, VOLUNTEER like there will be no tomorrow, and VOTE (we don't need anymore embarrassing opportunists like "ObamaGirl").

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 AM on 02/19/2008
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It's hard to tell who Hillary is running against. Obama or Patrick?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 02/19/2008
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I don't think Obama is going to end up with the nom.

I sensed a shift a few days ago.

My dear Obamacans, I detect a disturbance in the force.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 02/19/2008

Hillary was right, Obama is the showhorse, and she is the workhorse.
Obama's baptist rivial style of speaking has never turned me on. I think I had enough of the religious right, and family values since Bush has been in office. The Obama Camp did
a hit job in SC, claiming the Clintons are racist, yet in every speech I hear from him,
it's Selma, Ala, MLK,slaves, civil rights, page after page. You gotta be careful what you
say, should you mention his middle (birth name)
you become the target of racism.

It matters when he sells himself to be
the agent for change, and can't deliver in his own words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 02/19/2008
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Obama has a clear track record of hard work to deliver "change" and achieve programs to help the citizens he has been elected to serve. The Clinton argument is set up to avoid talking about their balanced work histories and down play the vision and hope Obama brings. The same Hope that Hillary can't sum up for the people. Hope, same vision responsible for electing Bill Clinton in 1992. Hillary has never been very successful at reaching the masses emotionally, hence Obama's message touches (and activates) people while Hillary leaves them cold or alienated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 02/19/2008

A clear track record? He claims to have been a community activist but the community he spent his time in is still a shithole and the people are still in the same boat with their hands out waiting for another redistribution program.
If he can't help a small neighborhood how can he help a country?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 02/19/2008
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Religious right? Yep, that's Obama, a pro-choice conservative zealot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 02/19/2008

Yes, Hillary is the workhorse who failed to give any credit to her ghostwriter for "It Takes a Village". And, now, she, with sense of shame or irony, is attempting to swiftboat Obama with a literal non-issue. Will the Wisconsin voters buy her nonsense? Let's see...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 02/19/2008
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Black people don't work. Is that what people are saying? Maybe he has been sitting around eating watermelon his whole life, huh? I think we are seeing some racism here. because of course Obama has worked and work very hard. It's demeaning to us all to imply otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 02/19/2008

Hillary is a workhorse. She has spent years working to solidify her establishment credentials in Washington; supporting the control the establishment has on the people; No change will be allowed. Too much time, effort and money has gone into creating the current system, set-up in Washington.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 02/19/2008

SO FUCKING WHAT !!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 02/19/2008

A year ago, Obama was just one of over a half dozen Democratic candidates. The reason this wasn't reason for 'cause or complaint' back then is because nobody was paying attention.

Now that he's the front-runner he's under the spotlight. Something he needs to get used to and understand that everything he says and does will be under far more scrutiny than it has been in the past. That's the price of being the front-runner - you get vetted whether fairly or otherwise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 02/18/2008

Ohhhh, now that he is actually being lobbied tough questions, challenges and things to answer for, he is getting squirrelly? GIVE ME A BREAK! He needs to start creating his OWN IDEAS and OWN WORDS! This is ridiculous!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 02/18/2008
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To paraphrase George Carlin, he's using the same words everybody else is using. I have no problem with shared words, or ideals, as long as they're good ones. Next you'll want him to drop the idea of "Hope", because somebody already said that word before. Grow up. Hillary's using the same words and tactics that the republicans have been using for years, and you lap it up. Talk about ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 02/19/2008

the clintons are pathetic.
but the bright side is they will lose Texas and it will finally be over for them.


bill can hang out with old man bush and hillary can finally get her divorce.

this was her one and only shot....and she missed..

I just hope she doesn't continue to embarrass herself by holding onto Obamas pant leg as he walks to accept the nomination.

what a horror she is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 02/18/2008
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You forgot to mention that she is also an insect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 02/19/2008

This has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

You need to gain some control - your hatred is ugly.

Take this where it's at least relevant to the subject being discussed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 02/19/2008

Hey, let's get a prediction pool going. If Hillary loses the nomination, does she finally divorce Bill??? If he can't get her the nomination, what is he good for? This needs it's own space on HuffPo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 AM on 02/19/2008
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Who was it that defined neurosis as repeating the same mistake again and again, and expecting a better outcome each time? That"s really what the Clinton campaign is doing in its post-Chesapeake primary strategy. Now Hillary defines Obama as the candidate who makes speeches, while she is the one who provides "answers" and "solutions."
Why is Hillary embracing this new line? It"s not that she has any great record of solutions or answers of which to boast
Of course experience not only didn"t work. It backfired massively. By co-opting the experience tag, Hillary bought into the status quo and left Obama to be the agent of change. A candidacy that could have excited tens of millions of women, the first serious prospect of a female president, became merely a boring part of the status quo, shorn of its novelty.
Hillary"s claim to be the solution-person won"t work either for the same simple reason: She hasn"t passed any. . She hasn"t walked the walk so now she cannot talk the talk.
As a first lady, Hillary"s sole important legislative involvement came during the first two years of her husband"s presidency when she sought to pass her ill-conceived health care reform, an effort that failed so miserably that it cost her party control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years.
Between 1995 to 1997, she was largely absent from the White House, traveling the world, promoting her best selling book and helping to raise funds. She never attended strategy meetings and her only intervention in the singular legislative achievements of Bill"s administration " welfare reform and the balanced budget deal " was privately to urge a veto of the former and to oppose the latter because it provided for a cut in the capital gains tax.
Hillary returned to the White House in 1998 to oversee the defense to the Lewinsky scandal and the impeachment attempt, but the Clinton administration essentially folded its legislative efforts during those years and hung on for dear life.

No portfolio of accomplishments there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 02/18/2008
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"But there is no fresh news here: in fact, this rhetorical connection between the two pols was noted by the Boston Globe way back in April of 2007."
So it was reported on "way" back in April than I guess it doesn't mean anything?
Come on. It could be said by copying an other's campaign that you a bit of a phony. If this was about Clinton there would be a fire storm.
Obama not so much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 02/18/2008

There's not a firestorm? Have you been under a rock all day? This was talked about and on every MSM network, NPR, and HuffPo for the entire day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 02/18/2008
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And gone tomorrow. Chris Mathews laughed it off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 02/18/2008

Just the opposite. Everyone following the campaign closely has seen Clinton stealing Obama's themes and phrases almost weekly:
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?bid=45&pid=286865
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2007/11/20/hillary-the-thief.aspx

But the Obama campaign isn't dishonest or manipulative enough to force an issue out of it. Hillary Clinton has run a poorly organized and poorly planned and wholly deceptive campaign. If she cries or has coughing fits again tonight, will her supporters defend her again?

"If this was about Clinton there would be a fire storm."
Seriously, what a joke! The gullibility of some of you Clinton supporters is beyond belief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 02/18/2008
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