Clinton Fingerprints on Plagiarism Flap

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February 19, 2008 09:13 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., listens to Parma, Ohio, Mayor Dan DePiero during a campaign stop at Grace's Grill in Parma, Ohio, Tuesday, Feb. 19, 2008. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

CLEVELAND — Hillary Rodham Clinton says reporters, not her campaign, uncovered evidence of Democratic rival Barack Obama sharing speech lines with Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick.

She made the claim Tuesday despite the fact her campaign posted video clips on YouTube illustrating similarities in the speeches and has suggested in several instances that the shared lines amount to plagiarism.

THE SPIN: "It's not us making this charge, it's the media," Clinton told Honolulu television station KITV Tuesday. "The media is finally examining my opponent which I think is important. We're trying to pick a president, someone for the toughest job in the world."

She added: "I think the media is going to be putting forth whatever facts and information it has for voters to assess on their own."

In an interview with another Honolulu station, KGMB, Clinton noted that Obama and Patrick share a strategist, David Axelrod, "who is apparently putting words in both of their mouths."

She added: "I think that's a serious concern."

FACT CHECK: Any suggestion that the story had a life of its own, apart from the Clinton campaign, is disingenuous.

The Associated Press, the Boston Globe and other news organizations have reported on instances in which Obama used some of Patrick's speech lines _ often without attribution.

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In the latest example, from a Democratic Party dinner Saturday night in Milwaukee, Obama repeated almost word for word part of a speech Patrick gave in 2006 extolling the importance of powerful oratory in politics. This was to rebut Clinton's charge that rhetoric is less important than results.

The New York Times reported the speech similarities Monday, having looked into them the day before. The story said the similarities "were highlighted by a rival campaign that did not want to be identified." The common lines were not characterized as plagiarism in the story.

Patrick, a friend and supporter of Obama, said he encouraged the candidate last week to respond to Clinton's criticisms about his rhetoric, as he has done before. He said he shared lines from his 2006 campaign for governor with Obama's speechwriters and wanted no credit, because the two men often swap ideas.

The Clinton campaign jumped on the matter. Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson held an hourlong conference call about it Monday and repeated many of the charges during another call Tuesday.

"Senator Obama is running on the strength of his rhetoric and the strength of his promises and, as we have seen in the last couple of days, he's breaking his promises and his rhetoric isn't his own," Wolfson told reporters Monday.

Wolfson added: "It raises questions about the premise of his candidacy."

And Clinton told reporters Monday night: "If your whole candidacy is about words, those words should be your own. That's what I think."

Obama spokesman Bill Burton said: "Senator Clinton knows full well that her campaign held a conference call with reporters to fan these flames and the fact that she suggested her campaign had nothing to do with it is exactly the kind of evasive tactic voters are rejecting."

Obama said Monday he wished he'd credited Patrick. He noted Clinton occasionally has used lines similar to his in her speeches.

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By Beth Fouhy

CLEVELAND — Hillary Rodham Clinton says reporters, not her campaign, uncovered evidence of Democratic rival Barack Obama sharing speech lines with Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick. She made the...
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- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 63 fans permalink
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talk about putting a snake in the pocket and then walking away!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 02/20/2008

Viva Estaban Jordan.....aka......El Patcho!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 02/20/2008
- geobushono I'm a Fan of geobushono 15 fans permalink

Peter Principle wins again.

Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 02/20/2008
- ruthinking I'm a Fan of ruthinking 9 fans permalink

Hillary plagarized the "night shift" from the Commodores. See the original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j0mjA06Y9M

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 AM on 02/20/2008
- veracal I'm a Fan of veracal 2 fans permalink

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 02/20/2008
- j0e I'm a Fan of j0e 6 fans permalink

and the Sopranos :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 02/20/2008

The Clinton's are absolutely disgusting people who will destroy anyone and anything that gets in the way of Hillary's right to be president. Know this Clinton supporters you are but pawns in their game to assure that they get back in the White House and soil this country all over again. Hillary no more cares about the common man than a socialist dictator for her the people are the means to an end. The sad thing is un-principled progressives are willing to buy into this crap just so that they can again see that big letter D next to the name of the white house resident

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 02/20/2008
- joja I'm a Fan of joja 12 fans permalink

The Clintons = Republican Bullllshitttt!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 AM on 02/20/2008
- JerryJef I'm a Fan of JerryJef 8 fans permalink

I cannot believe this. It is nothing but a bunch of bull. Yet it engenders 5 pages of comments here at HuffPo.

Let's settle the whole thing. Barack, give Deval $1.00 and say he's a speech writer.

None of the words Obama speaks are his own words. They flow from the pens of his speechwriters.

Let's get to something real.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 AM on 02/20/2008

Hillary what people are beginning to see is it's your "words" that can't be trusted. And you're correct also that people are taking a closer look at Obama and frankly liking what they see. Obama often references that we can't expect to make changes in Washington if we continue with the same old game with the same old people playing it. Your campaign is a clear indication of the old game being played. People are rejecting your type of political games.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 02/20/2008

NEWSFLASH: The Clinton campaign can try to say that Obama is over-playing use of "words", but what we the voters have begun to express is we want someone with leadership skills. That means listening to our ideas, and chossing those that are most capable of bringing progress to our nation.
They either have forgotten what good leadership is, or were 'fooling the American public' from the start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 02/20/2008

Ha, in Wisconsin, we don't fall for that negative kind of politics, Hillary. Now that you see it doesn't work, you try to distance yourself from it. Shameless!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 02/20/2008

A shout out to the good people of Wisconsin -- THANK YOU!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 02/20/2008
- Teritt I'm a Fan of Teritt 9 fans permalink

AMEN to the praise for the Wisconsin voters! Thank you, thank you, thank you for going out in those frigid temperatures! Sitting here in sunny FL, I was really worried about that. Thank you for voting!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 02/20/2008

Add me to the shout out! I am a white woman of Hillary's age and I would love to see a woman in the White House. God forbid that woman....which of course would be Bill Clinton's third term and a continuation of the Bush/Clinton monarchy. Let's see....tried condescending, didn't work....nice, no one bought it.....tears, one day wonder and finally onto what the Clintons do best....slash and burn. ON WISCONSIN!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 02/20/2008
- PuddyKatz I'm a Fan of PuddyKatz 7 fans permalink

Message to Hillary: Campaign on the issues. You win then. Dirty tricks, eroding any support you have!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 02/20/2008
- radlib1 I'm a Fan of radlib1 6 fans permalink

So much for "plagiarism," so much for Hillary. She's desperate and it's showing. Not an attractive trait, Mrs. Clinton.

DEVAL PATRICK - I ASKED OBAMA TO USE MY WORDS

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Deval_Patrick_I_asked_Obama_to_0219.html

From ABC's Good Morning America, broadcast February 19, 2008.

:: governor patrick, good morning to you.

:: good morning, diane.

:: the clinton campaign accused barack obama of plagiarizing the words you used in the 2006 campaign. you're laughing. that's a serious charge.

:: i am laughing. it's an elaborate charge, an extravagant one. i've known barack for almost 15 years now. we talked a good deal during my own campaign and his. we fully expected. i fully expected he would sustain a charge at some point trying to belittle his ability to motivate people with language. i got the same kind of attack when i was running for governor of massachusetts. i told him about i had responded because i think words do matter.

it's not like he's writing a law review article or a book or something like that. he should have credited me with the use of two words. meaning those words, just words. i suppose he should have credited the declaration of independence, and john f. kennedy and franklin roosevelt whom i quote as well. the point is, we have a candidate here with more law making experience than hillary clinton, as fine a candidate she is but he has added vision to motivate people to reach for it.

:: barack obama's candidacy is not only about words, it's about really great ideas. it's about a record of legislative and community activism. about bringing change and being an agent of change. and the dimension of being able to articulate what that vision is and motivate people to reach for it is an added dimension. it is those words, ability to inspire. i think that is a tremendous power of barack obama. i'm neither surprised nor troubled that he used the words that i asked him to use of my own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 02/20/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

McCain plagiarized Bush's entire economic and war strategies. No candidate could love war the way John does. He want more wars. 100 years in Iraq

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 02/20/2008

Last Monday: Read My Lips, No New Taxes! ~John McCain

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 02/20/2008
- disqo21 I'm a Fan of disqo21 3 fans permalink

This negative campaigning is going to kill her in the end, if she gets the nomination. She's behaving like a Neocon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 02/20/2008
- Bacowall I'm a Fan of Bacowall 3 fans permalink

To have focused on such a non-issue, brought the Clinton campaign no dividends? Why bother to embrace a strategy that contributes no gains?
I am amazed!!
http://manchestersquare.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 02/20/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

Nice strategy! Only lost by 17%

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 02/20/2008
- OtayPanky I'm a Fan of OtayPanky 74 fans permalink
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Dear Hillary -

First of all, let me say that I LOVE the boxing gloves. Please, please, PLEASE make sure that you show them at the beginning of ALL your speeches from now on.

More than that - now's the time to double-down on your hardball campaigning against that silver-tongued thesbian B. Hussein Obama (as your new supporter Ann Coulter calls him).

Don't be discouraged by the results in Wisconsin. Those people are just stupid cheeseheads, and besides it's a small state, and I think it's where Dick Cheney is from, and he (Cheney) is Barack's cousin so the deck was stacked against you from the start.

No, go down to Texas and show 'em what for! We've been through the "fun" part, and the "exciting" part - now give us the "mud wrestling" part we've all been waiting for.

Of course, I'm not a political professional like the crack team you have running your campaign - but I'll be they can all think up a BUNCH of bad stuff to say about Obama.

And I'm looking forward to hearing it all - whether it's true, or not!

Sincerely,

Your friend OTAYPANKY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 02/20/2008
- wmholt I'm a Fan of wmholt 31 fans permalink
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That "Dear Hillary" letter is good. The conventional political wisdom of having to Swiftboat your opponent in order to win is not paying off.

Yes, Hillary, dear, do come at Barack as hard as you can. He needs to toughen himself up and get practice for when he faces the real mud-slingers in the Republican party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 AM on 02/20/2008

Hillary has her constituency...That HAG Taylor Marsh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 02/20/2008
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