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Iraq Orders Police to Round Up Beggars

SINAN SALAHEDDIN | February 19, 2008 12:26 PM EST | AP


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BAGHDAD — The Iraqi Interior Ministry has ordered police to round up beggars, vagabonds and mentally disabled people from the streets of Baghdad to prevent them from being used by insurgents as suicide bombers, a spokesman said Tuesday.

The decision came after a series of suicide attacks, including two female bombers who struck pet markets in Baghdad on Feb. 1, killing nearly 100 people. Iraqi and U.S. officials have said the women were mentally disabled and apparently unwitting bombers.

The people detained in the Baghdad sweep will be handed over to governmental institutions that can provide shelter and care for them, Interior Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf said.

"This will be implemented nationwide starting today," Khalaf told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

"Militant groups, like al-Qaida in Iraq, have started exploiting these people in a very bad manner to kill innocents because they do not raise suspicions," Khalaf said. "These groups are either luring those who are desperate for money to help them in their attacks or making use of their poor mental condition to use them as suicide bombers."

Khalaf was not more specific about how those taken into custody would be selected.

The U.S. military said it understood the Interior Ministry intends to transfer those detained to the Ministry of Work and Social Affairs.

"We are aware of the Ministry of Interior's efforts to try and protect homeless and mentally impaired citizens from becoming the unwitting victims of al-Qaida in Iraq," Rear Adm. Gregory Smith, a military spokesman, said in an e-mailed statement. "It is our understanding that the MOI intends to transfer these, the most vulnerable of Iraq's people, to the Ministry of Work and Social Affairs."

Police officials at least two stations in western Baghdad, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release information to the media, said they had received the orders but had not yet acted on them. Police at several other stations, however, said they had not received the orders yet.

The Iraqi claim that mentally disabled women were used in the pet market bombings was met initially with skepticism. Iraqi authorities said they based the assertion on photos of the bombers' heads that purportedly showed the women had Down syndrome, and did not offer any other proof.

The U.S. military later backed the Iraqi account of the bombings, which led U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to call al-Qaida in Iraq "the most brutal and bankrupt of movements."

American and Iraqi troops later detained the acting director of a psychiatric hospital on suspicion of helping supply patient information to al-Qaida in Iraq.

Smith, the military spokesman, said at the time that the suspect was being questioned "in connection with the possible exploitation of mentally impaired women to al-Qaida."

The allegations fit into a wider campaign of confronting insurgents' changing tactics _ such as using women or children as suicide bombers _ as they seek to bypass stepped-up security measures and bounce back from losses in recent U.S.-led offensives.

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Associated Press writer Kim Gamel contributed to this report.


 
 

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- socal55 See Profile I'm a Fan of socal55 permalink

Iraq's best hospitals are filthy chambers of horrors with little medicine or any other supplies. That perhaps tens of thousands of mentally disabled persons are going to be rounded up and cared for humanly is absurd. Adding tens of thousands of homeless persons to the already bursting at the seams brutal Iraqi prison system seems seems equally ripe for horrendous abuse. The American forces seem content to do a "Blackwater" on this one. As long as it solves a security problem for us we don't intend to look too closely at how that job is getting done. The fact that this is getting so little press I find astounding!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 02/20/2008
- unitron See Profile I'm a Fan of unitron permalink



"The people detained in the Baghdad sweep will be handed over to governmental institutions that can provide shelter and care for them..."

So the homeless in Iraq are going to be better off than the homeless in the U.S.? What a country!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 02/19/2008
- reactionrynihilist See Profile I'm a Fan of reactionrynihilist permalink

I hate to pull a Godwin's law, but isn't this what happened in Germany in the '30's?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 02/19/2008
- ceasenake See Profile I'm a Fan of ceasenake permalink

In case they run out of women with Downs syndrome.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 02/19/2008
- speakingtruth2power See Profile I'm a Fan of speakingtruth2power permalink

Jail all homeless, tired, sick and poor.
kill all the rest and end this tiring war!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 02/19/2008
- HumeSkeptic See Profile I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic permalink


I agree. Only property owners should be allowed to become suicide bombers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 02/19/2008
- escobar See Profile I'm a Fan of escobar permalink

Another attempt to,"Win the hearts and minds" of the people?
Will they will be loyal, or itching to get even and make someone pay once they are released?
Oh, I guess the idea is not to release any of them...ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 02/19/2008
- researcher See Profile I'm a Fan of researcher permalink

well we passed our brand of capitalism on to them they now have homeless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 02/19/2008
- ceasenake See Profile I'm a Fan of ceasenake permalink

Under the Saddam regime the people always had a place to lay down - maybe in a mass grave, but a place to lay down, none the less.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 02/19/2008
- realpolitic See Profile I'm a Fan of realpolitic permalink

Yes, the Iraqi's have always been so glad to be liberated that this violence is all part of the "cakewalk" we were told to expect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 02/19/2008
- MikeDu See Profile I'm a Fan of MikeDu permalink

Rounding up the *homeless* in a city with defacto community cleansing and a 75% unemployment rate sounds like a daunting job. What would that be, removing 6 million people from a city of 12 million?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 02/19/2008
- helonias See Profile I'm a Fan of helonias permalink

Round them up then what

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 02/19/2008
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif permalink

Put them in free speech zones of course.

[center]GUANTANAMO IS A FREE SPEECH ZONE.[/center]

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 02/19/2008
- sailmaker See Profile I'm a Fan of sailmaker permalink

Maybe we should not be bombing the dickens out of Iraq. Maybe we should be sending in the CeeBees to do reconstruction, the Army Corps of Engineers to get the sewage off the streets (visible on Google Earth), the electricity running and the roads viable. Maybe after 5 years of war, our troops should learn the language and negotiate little peace treaties to get humanitarian work done? Maybe instead of warships in the Persian Gulf we should have hospital ships? Maybe we give up the idea of occupation for the Imperial Oil? Maybe then we would not have to worry about homeless Iraqis and deal with the 1.5 million refugees in Syria/Jordon? Just a thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 02/19/2008
- grisgris See Profile I'm a Fan of grisgris permalink

Gee, how about sending just a tenth of that aid to New Orleans? The trip isn't as far, the help is greatly needed, it's not quite as dangerous as Iraq, we (more or less) speak English AND it's right here in the U.S.! And, like Iraq, most of our destruction was caused by the U.S. government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 02/19/2008
- godlessclif See Profile I'm a Fan of godlessclif permalink

it's [New Orleans is] not quite as dangerous as Iraq.

Not Yet!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 02/19/2008
- CountryBeforeParty See Profile I'm a Fan of CountryBeforeParty permalink

Those aren't homeless....

Those are happy, proud Iraqis who are so thrilled about their current situation that they're sleeping in the streets to celebrate!

God, they love freedom!

/sarcasmoff

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 02/19/2008
- clumberfeet See Profile I'm a Fan of clumberfeet permalink

Presumed as potential terrorists are they sent to Guantanamo Bay or a secret prison camp to perpetually await habeas corpus?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 02/19/2008
- mommadona See Profile I'm a Fan of mommadona permalink

Actually, in their situation at the moment, this is probably a win/win situation - IF the people are treated humanely and support is there.

Think about it:

The fanatics are RUNNING OUT OF FANATICS! (OR THE MOTHERS MUST BE COMING TO THEIR SENSES AND NOT GIVING THEIR 'BLESSINGS' FOR JIHAD...)

Those 72 virgins just aren't the draw they once were.

In the last several bombings, they've depended on just such homeless/mentally unstable victims to do their dirty deeds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 02/19/2008
- GnitenGoodLk See Profile I'm a Fan of GnitenGoodLk permalink

They've always depended on the homeless/desperate/children/mentally unstable/vulnerable as recruits, sometimes against their will or knowledge. This is nothing new. The masterminds usually are the last to "sacrifice" or they save themselves for the "big jobs"

It's propaganda. The only difference between now and before the surge is they have more vulnerable to use. Our soldiers can't be everywhere at all times, they're doing the best they can. As a long term solution this is a strategic failure. The only way to keep it from completely imploding is "100 years of occupation" There is nothing humane about what is happening to Iraqis. The state run institutions/orphanages are horrendous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 02/19/2008
- evilzed See Profile I'm a Fan of evilzed permalink

Maybe dont give them a reason to commit suicide. Like America should NOT have bombed the bejeezuz out of Iraq.
Iraqis commiting Suicide is no different from any other nationality of people with no hope in the world and nothing left to live for doing it, the only difference is they choose to inflict some sort of payback while the commit, actually some similarity can be compared the the US College killings, losers, who are mentally ill and just wanting to end it all.
And dont bring up that 72 virgins argument, many westerners also rely on christianity in the hope that their souls will go to heaven, how many older people sudenly become religeous in their old age?
Ask youself these questions, why ally with Pakistan, one of the biggest suppliers of suicide bombers (ooops who has just voted out Bush freindly Masharaf) and why allow your leaders to destroy a country and cause resistance. You would do it if China invaded and ruled America, wouldn't you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 02/19/2008
- zaka1 See Profile I'm a Fan of zaka1 permalink

This is disturbing to hear on so many levels. Why wasn't the mentally ill and homeless taken care before this? Are we not pouring enough money into Iraq to care for the people displaced by this occupation?

It is even more distrubing when terms like "Ministry of Work and Social Affairs," is applied. It sounds too much like Orwell, "1984."

What is sad is that probably prior to the war these people did have homes, or family members who were caring for them. Sad.

But, are we in America treating our homeless and mentally ill much better? Wait I guess we do because they are free to freeze to death on the streets in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 02/19/2008
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