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Obama Wins Wis. Primary, Hawaii Caucus

DAVID ESPO | February 20, 2008 04:02 AM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Barack Obama cruised past a fading Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Wisconsin primary and Hawaii caucuses Tuesday night, gaining the upper hand in a Democratic presidential race for the ages.

The twin triumphs made 10 straight for Obama, and left the former first lady in desperate need of a comeback in a race she long commanded as front-runner.

"The change we seek is still months and miles away," Obama told a boisterous crowd in Houston in a speech in which he also pledged to end the war in Iraq in his first year in office.

"I opposed this war in 2002. I will bring this war to an end in 2009. It is time to bring our troops home," he declared.

Sen. John McCain, the Republican front-runner, won a pair of primaries, in Wisconsin and Washington, to continue his march toward certain nomination.

In a race growing increasingly negative, Obama cut deeply into Clinton's political bedrock in Wisconsin, splitting the support of white women almost evenly with her. According to polling place interviews, he also ran well among working class voters in the blue collar battleground that was prelude to primaries in the larger industrial states of Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Clinton made no mention of her defeat, and showed no sign of surrender in an appearance in Youngstown, Ohio.

"Both Senator Obama and I would make history," the New York senator said. "But only one of us is ready on day one to be commander in chief, ready to manage our economy, and ready to defeat the Republicans. Only one of us has spent 35 years being a doer, a fighter and a champion for those who need a voice."

In a clear sign of their relative standing in the race, most cable television networks abruptly cut away from coverage of Clinton's rally when Obama began to speak in Texas.

McCain won the Republican primary with ease, dispatching former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and edging closer to the 1,191 delegates he needs to clinch the GOP nomination at the party convention in St. Paul, Minn. next summer. The Arizona senator also won the primary in Washington, with 19 delegates at stake.

In scarcely veiled criticism of Obama, the Republican nominee-in-waiting said, "I will fight every moment of every day in this campaign to make sure that Americans are not deceived by an eloquent but empty call for change."

McCain's nomination has been assured since Super Tuesday three weeks ago, as first one, then another of his former rivals has dropped out and the party establishment has closed ranks behind him.

Not so in the Democratic race, where Obama and Clinton campaign seven days a week, he the strongest black presidential candidate in history, she bidding to become the first woman to sit in the White House.

Ohio and Texas vote next on March 4 _ 370 convention delegates in all _ and even some of Clinton's supporters concede she must win one, and possibly both, to remain competitive. Two smaller states, Vermont and Rhode Island, also have primaries that day.

With the votes counted in more than 80 percent of Wisconsin's precincts, Obama was winning 58 percent of the vote to 41 percent for Clinton.

Wisconsin offered 74 national convention delegates. There were 20 delegates at stake in Hawaii, where Obama spent much of his youth.

Washington Democrats voted in a primary, too, but their delegates were picked earlier in the month in cacuses won by Obama.

The Illinois senator's Wisconsin victory left him with 1,303 delegates in The Associated Press' count, compared with 1,233 for Clinton, a margin that masks his 145-delegate lead among those picked in primaries or caucuses. It takes 2,025 to win the nomination at the party's national convention in Denver.

Obama's victory came after a week in which Clinton and her aides tried to knock him off stride. They criticized him in television commercials and accused him of plagiarism for using words first uttered by Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a friend. He shrugged off the advertising volley, and said that while he should have given Patrick credit, the controversy didn't amount to much.

The voters seemed not to care.

Wisconsin independents cast about one-quarter of the ballots in the race between Obama and Clinton, and roughly 15 percent of the electorate were first-time voters, the survey at polling places said. Obama has run strongly among independents in earlier primaries, and among younger voters, and cited their support as evidence that he would make a stronger general election candidate in the fall.

Obama began the evening with eight straight primary and caucus victories, a remarkable run that has propelled him past Clinton in the overall delegate race and enabled him to chip away at her advantage among elected officials within the party who will have convention votes as superdelegates.

The economy and trade were key issues in the race, and seven in 10 voters said international trade has resulted in lost jobs in Wisconsin. Fewer than one in five said trade has created more jobs than it has lost.

The Democrats' focus on trade was certain to intensify, with primaries in Ohio in two weeks and in Pennsylvania on April 22.

Obama's campaign has already distributed mass mailings critical of Clinton on the issue in Ohio. "Bad trade deals like NAFTA hit Ohio harder than most states. Only Barack Obama consistently opposed NAFTA," it said.

Clinton's aides initially signaled she would virtually concede Wisconsin, and the former first lady spent less time in the state than Obama.

Even so, she ran a television ad that accused her rival of ducking a debate in the state and added that she had the only health care plan that would cover all Americans and the only economic plan to stop home foreclosures. "Maybe he'd prefer to give speeches than have to answer questions" the commercial said.

Obama countered with an ad of his own, saying his health care plan would cover more people.

Unlike the Democratic race, McCain was assured of the Republican nomination and concentrated on turning his primary campaign into a general election candidacy.

In one sign of progress in unifying the party, he split the conservative vote with Huckabee in Wisconsin.

Huckabee parried occasional suggestions _ none of them by McCain _ that he quit the race. In a move that was unorthodox if not unprecedented for a presidential contender, he left the country in recent days to make a paid speech in the Grand Cayman Islands.

McCain picked up endorsements in the days before the primary from former President George H.W. Bush and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a campaign dropout who urged his 280 delegates to swing behind the party's nominee-to-be.


 
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- prscnt1 I'm a Fan of prscnt1 8 fans permalink

Wasn't Bill Clinton called Slick-Willie?

Hillary is finished, not because of what she is capable off, but by allowing Bill and his crowd run her into the ground.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 02/20/2008

She is finished because she fell for the 'Hope-A-Dope'.

McCain may do the same thing. The media is already setting up the mantra that if you challenge the substance of the Pied Piper you are advocating a dark message of hopelessness.

Should be great fun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 02/20/2008
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CONGRATULATIONS BARACK OBAMA.

A SENSATIONAL VICTORY.

Time to start looking for your VP Mr. President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 02/20/2008
- misterbone I'm a Fan of misterbone 18 fans permalink

Tomorrow night at the CNN debate, the world will watch in amazement as the Dream Team comes together before our very eyes. You heard it here first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 02/20/2008

What John Edwards is going to be there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 02/20/2008
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 206 fans permalink
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I truly hope that the Clinton campaign looks deeply within itself and decides to abandon its new strategy of negative attacks. To all but the most devout Clinton supporters, this race is essentially over. I hope that Hillary can accept with grace and dignity that the presidency was just not meant to be for her and bows out of the race without doing any serious harm to herself, Obama, and the Democratic party.

We now stand on the threshold of a huge victory in November and we must all stand together to deliver the total thrashing that the Republican party so richly deserves. Just look at what they've done to our country since we gave them and Bush the keys to the White House. In a word -- Reprehensible.

Rest assured, as a veteran observer of many presidential campaigns, the Republicans will come at the Democratic nominee with all guns blaring. They will resort to their customary dirty tricks and will stop at nothing to destroy whomever stands in their way. They'll use 527s (Swiftboaters) to maximum effect and McCain will claim he has no control over them. Truth means absolutely nothing to them. Remember, this is the party of "the end justifies the means". (Just ask Dukakis ('88), Gore, and Kerry. I'm sure their memories of their campaigns still hurt.) It's a bankrupt party with a cancerous core and it needs to be given the metaphorical PINK SLIP, en masse. How very, very appropriate and just that would be.

So Hillary, please don't do anything foolish. Let's remember who the real enemy is here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 02/20/2008

NATIONAL DAY OF MOURNING...

Today if a Hillary supporter says something outlandish ignore it. The first step is anger. They have not realized that there is no way in hell that Hillary can win this. So let them talk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 02/20/2008
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wheres that goldamm tacheon multiplier, it's about time for another portal to open....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 02/20/2008
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I gave it Huff's IT guys to fix it. They promised to have it back in time for the election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 02/20/2008

This morning Joe Scarborough asked the question "If Obama had lost 10 straight contests in a row, wouldn't he be buried by now"? Yes he would. Hillary will be given the benefit of the doubt over and over again. We will put up with this back and forth until July. I will be at the beach.!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 02/20/2008
- shanester I'm a Fan of shanester 13 fans permalink
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What was Oabama's winning percentage in Wisconsin??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 02/20/2008
- 2liveNdie I'm a Fan of 2liveNdie 3 fans permalink

When Chelsey Clinton told her mother's campaign that she should go to Hawaii was it to rally or to tan? I hope that trip didn't come out the campaign bank.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 02/20/2008
- Progress08 I'm a Fan of Progress08 22 fans permalink
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John McCain has never said anything that he didn't recant later. What a stupid old asshole that pint sized little warmonger is. I love it how he takes the hunt for BinLaden (what we should be doing) and turns it into a War on Pakistan. We gave the dick Musharraff 20 billion dollars last year and that son of a bitch has done virtually nothing for us. The only reason Bush gave it to him is to keep him protecting oil and gas pipelines that American companies own and maintain in Pakistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 02/20/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

McCain: "He [Obama] wanted to bomb our ally Pakistan who has been hiding Bin Laden since 9/11."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 02/20/2008
- zephyrus I'm a Fan of zephyrus 16 fans permalink

That's been a bad investment, Pakistan. We ought to consider that sunk costs and move on. Their parliamentary procedure and recent elections have pretty much been a resounding, "thanks, but no thanks."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 02/20/2008

Mr. McCain should pay more attention to Americans. If he did, he would know that we applaud Obama's call for change. What's more, he's new and evidence shows that some of his ideas just may work. I've seen enough to know that I'm willing to give this new guy an opportunity to show that someone still cares about America! Obama want's change and diplomacy; McCain wants the same old war and, just as Bush, he wants it endless. Nope, it is definitely time for a change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 02/20/2008

Reach deep into those pockets for change.

I hope you democrats voting for all this so-called change can afford it.

I suspect though, I and many that have been frugile in life will pay for your short comings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 02/20/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1564 fans permalink
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You can post it ten times, and it still won't make any sense. The way to fix your post would be to get some help from someone with a functioning brain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 02/20/2008


Hey, when you see my monikor, you have my permission to skip over. Don't hurt yourself figuring me out, asshole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 02/20/2008

All your vote are belong to us. "We ran our math in the what-if scenario. This scenario gives Obama every state that hasn't voted by a 60/40 margin, so a bigger margin, still not 65-35, but a 60-40 margin, and guess what? He still comes up short, Larry. So even if he wins by 60/40 and the delegates are awarded proportionately under the Democratic rules, Obama builds a health lead, but he's still short.
So to clinch, he would have to win somewhere in the area of 70-30. Perhaps that will happen, but I think that's unrealistic, based on what we've seen in the past, despite his strong weekend, and tonight, unrealistic to think he can do something like that." CNN
With neither Clinton or Obama able to have enough elected delegates to win the nomination things will be just super at the Democratic convention. So how will the Democratic party's bosses select the Democratic presidential nominee? A floor fight for the nomination with the super delegates selecting the nominee in the open would be uncontrollable and divisive. Only a hidden back room deal will keep everything under control. Surely, the party bosses have to work out their selection deal before the convention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 02/20/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1564 fans permalink
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Those doubting Obama's ability to beat Repubs should remember that the formidable Clinton machine beat Repubs twice. And Obama has that Clinton machinery all tied up in knots, short on funds, running out of slogans, and not knowing just what the fuck to do to score a single win after ten straight losses.

Does that tell you something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 02/20/2008

Yup, the Clintons got nailed by the old 'Hope-A-Dope' strategy.

Now they are staggering around the ring while Obam "floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee"

"It's the repetition of affirmations that leads to belief. And once that belief becomes a deep conviction, things begin to happen."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 02/20/2008
- zephyrus I'm a Fan of zephyrus 16 fans permalink

This resonate with you at all?

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 02/20/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1564 fans permalink
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OK. Now go play outside. I'm talking to adults right now, Vogie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 02/20/2008

Is demanding surrender good politics? Hillary, since day one, has said she is in this fight to win it and will not back down. Just as the fight gets started, the Obamabots demand an unconditional surrender. Is this how Obama will fight the war on terror?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 02/20/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1564 fans permalink
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Yes. Nothing wrong in Obama demanding that terrorists surrender, is there?

( You seem to have argued against your own argument. Poor you.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 02/20/2008
- Sisyphuss I'm a Fan of Sisyphuss 13 fans permalink

"Is this how Obama will fight the war on terror?"

What's wrong with demanding the unconditional surrender of terrorists?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 02/20/2008

You're right, it's a dicy position for Obama to take because they will hit him with the "surrender" crap from people who see something noble in remaining stuck in a very bad position. Obama is being courageous in saying, "Let's get unstuck." It's like pulling an absessed tooth...it's going to hurt and cause emotional discomfort, but sometimes adult actions need to be taken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 02/20/2008
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