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Obama Wins Wis. Primary, Hawaii Caucus

DAVID ESPO | February 20, 2008 04:02 AM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Barack Obama cruised past a fading Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Wisconsin primary and Hawaii caucuses Tuesday night, gaining the upper hand in a Democratic presidential race for the ages.

The twin triumphs made 10 straight for Obama, and left the former first lady in desperate need of a comeback in a race she long commanded as front-runner.

"The change we seek is still months and miles away," Obama told a boisterous crowd in Houston in a speech in which he also pledged to end the war in Iraq in his first year in office.

"I opposed this war in 2002. I will bring this war to an end in 2009. It is time to bring our troops home," he declared.

Sen. John McCain, the Republican front-runner, won a pair of primaries, in Wisconsin and Washington, to continue his march toward certain nomination.

In a race growing increasingly negative, Obama cut deeply into Clinton's political bedrock in Wisconsin, splitting the support of white women almost evenly with her. According to polling place interviews, he also ran well among working class voters in the blue collar battleground that was prelude to primaries in the larger industrial states of Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Clinton made no mention of her defeat, and showed no sign of surrender in an appearance in Youngstown, Ohio.

"Both Senator Obama and I would make history," the New York senator said. "But only one of us is ready on day one to be commander in chief, ready to manage our economy, and ready to defeat the Republicans. Only one of us has spent 35 years being a doer, a fighter and a champion for those who need a voice."

In a clear sign of their relative standing in the race, most cable television networks abruptly cut away from coverage of Clinton's rally when Obama began to speak in Texas.

McCain won the Republican primary with ease, dispatching former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and edging closer to the 1,191 delegates he needs to clinch the GOP nomination at the party convention in St. Paul, Minn. next summer. The Arizona senator also won the primary in Washington, with 19 delegates at stake.

In scarcely veiled criticism of Obama, the Republican nominee-in-waiting said, "I will fight every moment of every day in this campaign to make sure that Americans are not deceived by an eloquent but empty call for change."

McCain's nomination has been assured since Super Tuesday three weeks ago, as first one, then another of his former rivals has dropped out and the party establishment has closed ranks behind him.

Not so in the Democratic race, where Obama and Clinton campaign seven days a week, he the strongest black presidential candidate in history, she bidding to become the first woman to sit in the White House.

Ohio and Texas vote next on March 4 _ 370 convention delegates in all _ and even some of Clinton's supporters concede she must win one, and possibly both, to remain competitive. Two smaller states, Vermont and Rhode Island, also have primaries that day.

With the votes counted in more than 80 percent of Wisconsin's precincts, Obama was winning 58 percent of the vote to 41 percent for Clinton.

Wisconsin offered 74 national convention delegates. There were 20 delegates at stake in Hawaii, where Obama spent much of his youth.

Washington Democrats voted in a primary, too, but their delegates were picked earlier in the month in cacuses won by Obama.

The Illinois senator's Wisconsin victory left him with 1,303 delegates in The Associated Press' count, compared with 1,233 for Clinton, a margin that masks his 145-delegate lead among those picked in primaries or caucuses. It takes 2,025 to win the nomination at the party's national convention in Denver.

Obama's victory came after a week in which Clinton and her aides tried to knock him off stride. They criticized him in television commercials and accused him of plagiarism for using words first uttered by Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a friend. He shrugged off the advertising volley, and said that while he should have given Patrick credit, the controversy didn't amount to much.

The voters seemed not to care.

Wisconsin independents cast about one-quarter of the ballots in the race between Obama and Clinton, and roughly 15 percent of the electorate were first-time voters, the survey at polling places said. Obama has run strongly among independents in earlier primaries, and among younger voters, and cited their support as evidence that he would make a stronger general election candidate in the fall.

Obama began the evening with eight straight primary and caucus victories, a remarkable run that has propelled him past Clinton in the overall delegate race and enabled him to chip away at her advantage among elected officials within the party who will have convention votes as superdelegates.

The economy and trade were key issues in the race, and seven in 10 voters said international trade has resulted in lost jobs in Wisconsin. Fewer than one in five said trade has created more jobs than it has lost.

The Democrats' focus on trade was certain to intensify, with primaries in Ohio in two weeks and in Pennsylvania on April 22.

Obama's campaign has already distributed mass mailings critical of Clinton on the issue in Ohio. "Bad trade deals like NAFTA hit Ohio harder than most states. Only Barack Obama consistently opposed NAFTA," it said.

Clinton's aides initially signaled she would virtually concede Wisconsin, and the former first lady spent less time in the state than Obama.

Even so, she ran a television ad that accused her rival of ducking a debate in the state and added that she had the only health care plan that would cover all Americans and the only economic plan to stop home foreclosures. "Maybe he'd prefer to give speeches than have to answer questions" the commercial said.

Obama countered with an ad of his own, saying his health care plan would cover more people.

Unlike the Democratic race, McCain was assured of the Republican nomination and concentrated on turning his primary campaign into a general election candidacy.

In one sign of progress in unifying the party, he split the conservative vote with Huckabee in Wisconsin.

Huckabee parried occasional suggestions _ none of them by McCain _ that he quit the race. In a move that was unorthodox if not unprecedented for a presidential contender, he left the country in recent days to make a paid speech in the Grand Cayman Islands.

McCain picked up endorsements in the days before the primary from former President George H.W. Bush and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a campaign dropout who urged his 280 delegates to swing behind the party's nominee-to-be.


 
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This was a "People's History" up to about 6 months ago when Huffy scrubbed the last two years of comments. Too bad, as Huffy is making history. There is some discussion among librarians about saving Internet pages for historical reasons, and the first 2 years of Huffy should have been saved.

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don't worry coyote2, all your comments have been saved by this administration - for posterity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 02/20/2008
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Ever heard of archive.org? It's already being done...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 AM on 02/20/2008
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The top comment wasn't mine. Mine was underneath the perforated line. I was referencing the spying going on in small rooms at telecoms all over the country, courtesy of Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 AM on 02/20/2008
- caywen I'm a Fan of caywen 7 fans permalink

Obama is about to make it 10 in a row. Hawaii results are coming in and is at 7% reporting as I type this. Obama has 76% to Clinton's 22%. Check it out yourself: http://www.politico.com/

This is a huge win for Obama because the delegate differential is likely to be comparable to Wisconsin. Hawaii might not have that many delegates, but winning by a 50% margin makes it a pretty important victory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 02/20/2008
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Three cheers for America !!!

The spirit of America is stirring: we are awakening to a new century

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 02/20/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Actually, it may turn out that Clinton has not had one night in which she has earned more delegates than Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 02/20/2008

It's true.

March 4 is going to be the end of an INCREDIBLY long losing streak - even if Obama does well, I don't think he can out "delegate her" in those four states.

People whose opinions I trust were going to call a 100 delegate lead by Clinton on Super Tuesday a "tie" - and I think that subsequent events would have born that out. To actually have won more delegates with her strongest states all voting on the same day was a disaster for the campaign. You've had nothing but drumbeats of victory coming from the Obama campaign ever since.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 AM on 02/20/2008

Promises, promises, read my lips, no new taxes, depends on what the definition of 'is' is. Double double talk talk...and what's with the hands? Adolf liked waving his hands around, too, did you pick up any of his other bad habits?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 02/20/2008
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are you drunk?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 AM on 02/20/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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So Obama has a net gain of what? 25 delegates?

In a contest featuring one small and one medium small state?

Will Hill have one successful day in this campaign?

And who gets fired tomorrow? Somebody must be thrown to the wolves or no more money will be extant. And maybe not even then.

This is going to make several good books that I will buy but never read.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 AM on 02/20/2008
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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Man I wish I was in Hawaii.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 02/20/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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You and me both... It is very, very cold here... brrrrrr.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 AM on 02/20/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Wonder if Thursday's Obama/Hillary debate will be interesting? Nah, probably be just another Kodak Theater lovefest...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 AM on 02/20/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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Oh... somehow I doubt that... Hillary has to come out fighting... as if it would do any good at this point...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 02/20/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Just joking, I'm expecting the "claws" to come out.

I have a couple hopes for Obama, hope he asks her point blank that since she talks so much about being vetted already, if she'll agree to release her tax returns and White House documents within a week. When she dances around a "no", she'll be nailed.

Also, hope he says something to the effect of how he believes in democracy, majority vote of the people deciding elections and not overruled whether by SCOTUS or Super Delegates. Then turn to Hillary to defend her stand against democracy and her battle to overrule the voters in TX and OH (let her whine about MI and FL then slam her on betraying her word).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 02/20/2008

all I know is I'm going to be muting the sound every time Hillary talks. I can't stand listening to the sound of her unbearable harsh painful monotone voice anymore. I've had it. no more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 02/20/2008
- Dogma I'm a Fan of Dogma 5 fans permalink
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in a few weeks i don't think you'll have to worry about hearing much from her anymore. praise be to brahma!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 02/20/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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I am staying on the first page from now on... it is making me tired.. all this playing hide and seek with posts....

Congratulations to Senator Obama on yet another victorious night... ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 02/20/2008
- skycontrol I'm a Fan of skycontrol 4 fans permalink

The Hillary & “Bill in a China Shop” show is in freefall.
There are two stages before political irrelevancy.
First the politician becomes the object of derision and then they become the object of pity. That is where HRC finds herself.
Hey, call me silly, but doesn’t her campaign remind you of the war in Iraq.
Bush was fixated on winning Baghdad, thinking that constituted victory and gave little thought to the aftermath.
HRC was fixated on winning Super Tuesday, feeling confident that she would have it wrapped up by then, so why bother with the caucus states.
Bush thought that the Iraqi people wanted democracy but what they really wanted was security.
HRC thought the American people wanted experience, but what they really wanted was change.
Bush thought that since he had the support of the Chalabis the support of the Iraqi people would follow.
HRC thought that if she had the support of the Rangels and Youngs, she would have the support of a core constituency.
Both Bush and HRC can be faulted for hiring people based on loyalty and a distant, secondarily, competence.
Neither Bush nor HRC can be accused of admitting to error.
Neither can be accused of humility.
Both feel that if you are not with them, you are against them.
Bush calls his enemies evil.
HRC threatens to “demonize” those who question her wisdom.
All of this is so old school!
Well a political Tsunami is sweeping across this land and I am reminded of a Dylan line, “Something is happening here and you don’t know what it is, do you Mr. Jones!”

Skycontrol 02/20/08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 02/20/2008
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Good analogy of Clinton's campaign to Bush's debacle in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 AM on 02/20/2008

Very good analysis. I totally agree. Applause!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 02/20/2008
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"...And it's all over now, Baby Blue."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 02/20/2008

"the Republican nominee-in-waiting said, "I will fight every moment of every day in this campaign to make sure that Americans are not deceived by an eloquent but empty call for change."

Hey you old codger! The call for change is not empty. Rather it reflects the heartfelt desire of the American people that things do not continue to go on the same as before. People are fed up with the same old, same old.
One definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the results to be different. If we are going to get different results we have to change the way we are doing things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 02/20/2008
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Obama 77% Hawaii

Clinton 22%

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 02/20/2008
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* correction * Clinton 23% :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 02/20/2008

in the Birth of Tragedy, Nietzsche said that existence can only be justified as an aesthetic phenomenon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 02/20/2008
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Excellent! Just saw that as well.... makes ten in a row...

He also won, again, in Washington State.... and Wisconsin...

Yay!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 02/20/2008
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I thought they already had their primary in WA state? What's up with that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 02/20/2008

"But only one of us is ready on day one to be commander in chief"

What an arrogant s.o.b.! No wonder so many people don't like her. No wonder she has the highest negatives of any major candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 02/20/2008
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MISSING BLOGGERS REPORT:

Jayhome and Anninca mysteriously missing. Clues being sought, 10 cent checks and tear-filled kleenexes the only evidence found. Please notify authorities with any further information.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 AM on 02/20/2008
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ATLien will be soon be pictured on milk cartons...

That will help end my confusion ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 AM on 02/20/2008
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lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 02/20/2008
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Better on a milk carton than on this blog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 02/20/2008

ROFL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 02/20/2008
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Mr. McCain: We need to fight every moment of every day in this campaign to make sure that Americans are not deceived by an eloquent but empty call for EXPERIENCE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 02/20/2008

Wonkette just reported that Obama won 110% of the delegates in Hawaii or something.

http://wonkette.com/358470/report-from-hawaii-barack-will-kill-so-go-to-bed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 02/20/2008

Thanks for the link. I can go to bed now. It's become impossible to post on this thread anymore tonight anyway. Some views upon refresh turn the posts into scrambled eggs! Replies not linked to the correct parent, etc.

'Night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 02/20/2008
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McCain's new slogan:

100 more years of Abu Ghraib

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 02/20/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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100 more years of borrowing $10 billion a month from Dubai and China and Saudi Arabia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 02/20/2008
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Heard on today's Rachel Maddow show:

The size of the Democratic Party in Hawai'i has increased by 25% (5,000 more members) since Super Tuesday, according to Florence Kong Kee, Executive Director/Political Director of the Hawai'i Democratic Party.

Posted on: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:27 PM HST (5 hours behind EST).

'Long lines reported at caucus sites across Hawaii'

Hawaii's Democratic caucus is attracting record numbers of voters this evening, with sites across the state opening to long lines of residents eager to vote for Sen. Barrack Obama or Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Before the 7 p.m. start of voting, hundreds of people were reported outside caucus sites, including in Kalihi, Mililani, and Wailuku, Maui.'

'Democratic Party officials are expecting a record turnout to exceed 10,000 voters, compared with the roughly 4,000 people who voted in the last caucus in 2004.'

'Party officials don't expect to start announcing results until after 9 p.m., however the large turnout may push that late into the night.'

http://starbulletin.com/breaking/breaking.php?id=6742

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 02/20/2008
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