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$3 Gallon Gas, Crude Prices, gas prices, investors, Oil futures, venezuela

Oil Jumps Above $100 on Refinery Outage

JOHN WILEN | February 19, 2008 04:29 PM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — Oil futures shot higher Tuesday, closing above $100 for the first time as investors bet that crude prices will keep climbing despite evidence of plentiful supplies and falling demand. At the pump, gas prices rose further above $3 a gallon.

There was no single driver behind oil's sharp price jump; investors seized on an explosion at a 67,000 barrel per day refinery in Texas, the falling dollar, the possibility that OPEC may cut production next month, the threat of new violence in Nigeria and continuing tensions between the U.S. and Venezuela.

The fact that there was no overriding reason for such a price spike could be a bad omen for consumers already bearing the burdens of high heating costs and falling real estate values. Many recent forecasts have said oil demand growth this year will be less than initially expected, yet prices continue to rise. That suggests they may continue rising as the weakening dollar attracts new investors to the futures market.

And rising oil prices mean higher gas prices.

"As the economy weakens, it's going to be met with $3.50 and $3.60 gasoline," said James Cordier, founder of OptionSellers.com, a Tampa, Fla., trading firm. "And that really spells trouble for the consumer."

Light, sweet crude for March delivery rose $4.51 to settle at a record $100.01 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange after earlier rising to $100.10, a new trading record. It was the first time since Jan. 3 that oil had been above $100.

Oil prices are still within the range of inflation-adjusted highs set in early 1980. Depending on how the adjustment is calculated, $38 a barrel then would be worth $96 to $103 or more today.

Crude futures offer a hedge against a falling dollar, and oil futures bought and sold in dollars are more attractive to foreign investors when the greenback is falling.

"I really think ... crude oil's going to soar through $100," Cordier said.

At the pump, meanwhile, gas prices jumped 1.8 cents to a national average price of $3.032 a gallon Tuesday, according to AAA and the Oil Price Information Service. Retail prices, which typically lag the futures market, are following oil prices higher. The Energy Department and many analysts expect gas prices to peak this spring well above last May's record of $3.227 a gallon.

Gasoline and heating oil prices appeared to lead Tuesday's wide advance in energy prices due to the explosion Monday at Alon USA's Big Spring, Texas, refinery, which could be shuttered for two months.

"The refinery fire in Texas is making people a little concerned," said Michael Lynch, president of Strategic Energy & Economic Research Inc. in Amherst, Mass.

March gasoline jumped 10.93 cents to settle at a record $2.6031 a gallon, and March heating oil rose 11.45 cents to settle at $2.7614 a gallon, also a record.

A threat by a rebel group in Nigeria to escalate attacks on the nation's crude oil infrastructure helped boost oil prices. The rebels were acting in response to rumors that the government had killed a captured leader, whom authorities later said was safe and well. Militant attacks have cut about 20 percent of Nigeria's crude output in recent years.

For the moment, investors appear to have put aside concerns about the economy that have sent oil prices down into the mid-$80 range twice in the last month. Traders are instead focused on the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, which will meet early next month to map out production plans, and Venezuela, where President Hugo Chavez made conflicting statements this weekend about the country's legal dispute with Exxon Mobil Corp.

OPEC could move to cut production in the second quarter, typically a period of low demand, though many analysts feel that's unlikely. In Venezuela, Chavez said he was not serious about an earlier threat to cut oil sales to the U.S., but also threatened to sue Exxon Mobil. The world's largest oil company is fighting Venezuela's nationalization of an oil project, and recently convinced several courts to freeze $12 billion in Venezuelan oil assets.

Other energy futures also rose Tuesday. March natural gas jumped 31.7 cents to settle at $8.977 per 1,000 cubic feet. Analysts said prices were supported by forecasts for cooler weather, but that futures were also following oil prices higher.

In London, Brent crude for April delivery rose $3.65 to settle at $98.56 a barrel on the ICE Futures exchange.

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AP Business Writers George Jahn in Vienna and Thomas Hogue in Bangkok contributed to this report.


 
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I welcome the discourse, so lets be honest in it. The big Oil companies have traders on the floor of every crude market on the planet. They trade up their own products with big institutional buying power. The traders, as you know are not required to take physical possession of the commodity, and the same dam contract can be bought and sold several times and even passing through the same entity more than once. Than the big Oil Co. state, "Our cost at the refinery for the crude is X, that is the greatest factor in the cost of refined products". They fail to mention that they bought the crude from themselves. Just because the refineries operate under different corp. names, does not mean it isn't a shell game.
Please use your knowledge of the industry to try and bring about change for the good of the multitudes who continue to suffer at the hands of the few. I stand firmly behind the spirit of my earlier statements. My error of less than half a percent of the S.P.R. is regrettable, but does not change the basic foundation of the argument. Your position that continues to persist is that gasoline has not increased with the same percentage increase as crude. I never made that argument, but that fact alone speaks volumes to the reality that most gasoline feed stock (crude) comes from the same source that refines the finished product.
This fact supports what I submit as additional evidence that the basic crude price can and is manipulated by the producing/refining companies thus enabling them the ability to price finished goods according to what their perception of what the market will bare.

My chief position is that all finished goods, whether they be petroleum based of otherwise, are directly affected by the huge increase in the price of crude. even if you grow all your own crops and raise all of your own livestock, you cannot escape that fact. So please stop trying to take an untenable position.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 02/20/2008

A couple of questions come to mind.

When you buy crude oil...do you take possession of the product and actually use it? Or, do you buy crude oil for financial investment reasons?

If oil companies are the bullies of the market and according to your theory set the price of crude oil...how did they let the price collapse to $9/bbl in 1998?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 02/20/2008
- esquire07 I'm a Fan of esquire07 25 fans permalink

Lot so laughs. Getting more and more expensive for Americans to pollute the air they breathe with their SUV's. When the Depression hits it will be funny watching Americans starve in the streets. They will be like "what happened."

Greed, profit, American Idol - Greed, Profit, American Idol.... how funny. Watch as your grandkids choke to death on the air they breathe.

America is getting exactly what it bargained for by electing a criminal in office and allowing him to lie to the nation, and kill untold thousands for Corporate profit.

Hold on America... the illusion is coming to an end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 02/20/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 77 fans permalink

If we would hit PEAK OIL then someone had better wake up and let those new innovations onto the markets. But remember, when Bush declared ONLY a 1.8 mpg increase on US Vehicles
that sent a message, we have no problem and they want to sell more oil. Congress and its
new energy policy is a joke when one looks at 2020 with 35 mpgs for all vehicles. It should be 100 mpgs per vehicle now. Don't you see through all of this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 02/20/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 77 fans permalink

Then there are those people out there who still think that problems in the weather, Nigeria, or the explosion of a refinery causes the price to rise. Imagine, what we have done in the past,
no hurricane, no fart somewhere in the world
had any influence on the gas costing 99 cents.
Get your head our of your behinds. Just check out the usage of oil in the US has declined over the last few years, yet they are still lying to us in the press. Oh I forgot, those website I am sure will disappear along with those tracking the economy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 02/20/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 77 fans permalink

If people would only drive the speed limit, the price of gas would fall tremendously!!! But the poorest of people drive the fastest. Does not make sense to pass you when there is a red light ahead but people will do it. However,
do you see the biggest problem of all are the
hedge funds and our congress is heavily invested in it, ergo no change, no limitations to reign them in. Talk about the economy going belly up. Those 19 hours a week jobs won't even cover the expense of going to work!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 02/20/2008
- Wulfstan I'm a Fan of Wulfstan 8 fans permalink

A serious fire at an oil refinery actually reduces the demand for crude while the plant is out of commission and therefore logically the price of crude should fall. Traders are not known for their powers of critical thinking, but I guess they know a good bet when they see one.

The refinery fire will cause a curtailment of gasoline and diesel production and logically contribute to a price increase at the pump.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 02/20/2008
- lastams I'm a Fan of lastams 57 fans permalink

Ah yes, this one is blamed on a refinery fire, or was it worries about Nigeria, or did some butterfly fart in Indonesia which started a panic?
I know for certain that it is never ever about Saudi Arabia or the Oil companies who are, just co-incidentally, making historical profits while the country suffers in a war.
Remember when war profiteering was a crime? Ah, the good old days!

Despite whatever the current excuse, what Americans are paying at the pump reflects a back and forth between OPEC production quotas, and the and oil oligopoly, and all of it is effectuated by the mechanism for setting the economic rent, the Nynex spot market.

There are not economic fundamentals behind the price of oil. If there were not a crude oil cartel and an oil-company oligopoly, the cost of gasoline at the pump would be a fraction of what we are paying today.

No matter what mix of these forces is pushing up the price, it isn't economic fundamentals, and it isn't concerns over unrest in Nigeria.

And, according to the nightly news, it is Never EVER the Saudis, who set production quotas for ALL the OPEC countries. This same Saudi Arabia that supports both AlQadea and the insurrection in Iraq is afterall our partner on the war on terror. God forbid we should point out their foot on our economic throat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 02/20/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 263 fans permalink
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Well just how are they going to pay their CEO's $100 of million in pay?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 02/20/2008
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 64 fans permalink
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It's not about the oil companies. Ok, maybe a little bit. It's not about a refinery blowing up. Ok, maybe a little bit. It's not about Venezuela. It's not about the Arabs. It's not about Indian and Chinese consumption. Ok, maybe a little bit. IT'S ABOUT THE WEAK, WEAK DOLLAR! You need more of them to buy a barrel of oil, to be crude about it. Also, stock up on pasta today. Wheat is in short supply and our weak dollars have to buy from other countries. Oy veh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 02/20/2008
- Dendroica I'm a Fan of Dendroica 30 fans permalink

No. The dollar hasn't fallen anywhere near as much as oil has risen. Oil is about three times as high as it was 6 years ago, the dollar is less than 30 percent weaker against global currencies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 02/20/2008

The Bush Clan's portfolios are looking pretty schweet, eh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 AM on 02/20/2008
- SirReal1 I'm a Fan of SirReal1 65 fans permalink

I live in S.E. Arizona, home of the BIG SUV, and "dualie" Pick-UP Truck. I can't wait until the spring $4.00+ a gallon to hit. These ignorant assholes don't even realize that THEY ARE A LARGE PART OF WHY the prices keep going up. THEY SUPPORT THIS (P)resident 110%, and they SUPPORT THE TROOPS (you can tell because they all have a "yellow ribbon" magnet on their tailgates). It is going to be a riot watching them pay $150.00 + per fill up.

And please, do me a favor RIGHT WINGERS, and stop with the "it's a natural effect of market forces" bullshit! You have to be a complete fucking moron to believe that shit! One look at the OBSCENE PROFITS of the BIGOIL Cartel, and you know there's more to it than that!

Prediction: Two days after Obama takes office Oil prices will begin to fall, after he announces that he is going to release 50% of the SRP, they will fall further. By the end of his first year in office, Oil will be down to $50 a barrel.

Any one with a brain and a memory remembers we went through the same thing with Reagan/Bush I, as soon as Clinton took office, Oil prices dropped even as DEMAND ROSE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 AM on 02/20/2008
- Dendroica I'm a Fan of Dendroica 30 fans permalink

Would this be a bad time to mention an article in yesterday's Science Times (weekly feature in the New York Times)?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/science/19carb.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

They've got a catalytic reaction that turns CO2 into complex hydrocarbons, essentially turning pollution into fuel! Problem is, it takes a lot of heat. They say if they built a pilot plant around a nuclear powered source (why not solar?) the cost would be about $4.60/gallon, and they could bring it down to $3.40. Imagine that! While it wouldn't really be carbon neutral, it would be MUCH more green than ethanol, would be honestly American produced, and would entirely eliminate our need for foreign oil.

I think some of the reasons why oil is spiking is because they see the writing on the wall. Maybe in another 10 years, OPEC will be ruined, and oil will be back to pre-Bush era prices. So they're sticking it to us now, while they still have the chance. You know the next Democratic president (Obama 75/25) is going to push alternative in a big way, and maybe he'll go away from corn to waste or grass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 AM on 02/20/2008
- ptarantino I'm a Fan of ptarantino 9 fans permalink

Do your small part people.

If you know anyone in the oil business, do your part & rip into them about their greed.

There is no reason for oil to be this high & they need to be shamed out of their expoltation.

Don't let these people hide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 AM on 02/20/2008
- ATLien I'm a Fan of ATLien 2 fans permalink

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well that certainly explains a 5X increase in pricing over a decade of oil men in the White House.

5 times increase.
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It does, oil pricing is very standard and done using a mathematical model. Inputs put into the model determine the price, not "oil men".
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 02/20/2008
- ptarantino I'm a Fan of ptarantino 9 fans permalink

WH Reporters should be grilling every offical about the obscene prices & tax breaks that these greedy energy companies get.

Let's turn the heat on them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 AM on 02/20/2008
- ATLien I'm a Fan of ATLien 2 fans permalink

Gas prices are rising because of the global demand. China and India now demand much more than in the past, couple that with the refinary explosion and the oil cartels er producers Opec, stating today that they are going to have a decrease in production and there you have it, rising prices.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 02/20/2008
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 139 fans permalink
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"This comeback in oil is absolutely amazing," said Phil Flynn, vice president of futures brokerage Alaron Trading. "The market seems to be dismissing the fact that a slowing economy will have an effect on demand."

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/crude-oil-other-energy-futures-advance/story.aspx?guid=%7B95812405-CBF5-4262-B519-F4A1F4B008C3%7D

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