Bloomberg: "Fraud" Behind Low Obama Vote In New York

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First Posted: 02-20-08 10:40 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:46 AM

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Bloomberg Calls Fraud

Mayor Bloomberg charged yesterday that "fraud" was behind the unofficial results in the New York Democratic presidential primary that produced zero votes for Barack Obama in some districts.

"If you want to call it significant undercounting, I guess that's a euphemism for fraud," said the mayor.

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Mayor Bloomberg charged yesterday that "fraud" was behind the unofficial results in the New York Democratic presidential primary that produced zero votes for Barack Obama in some districts. "If you w...
Mayor Bloomberg charged yesterday that "fraud" was behind the unofficial results in the New York Democratic presidential primary that produced zero votes for Barack Obama in some districts. "If you w...
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- NAMI I'm a Fan of NAMI 8 fans permalink

A MILLION THANKS TO MAYOR BLOOMBERG FOR HIS ATTENTION AND CONCERN ABOUT THIS ZERO VOTES in some districts for OBAMA.
MAYOR BLOOMBERFG IS ADMIRABLE.
OUR VOTING SYSTEM LEAVES MUCH TO BE DESIRED.
we must get serious about solving the problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 02/20/2008
- Birdman I'm a Fan of Birdman 42 fans permalink

So lets see he accuses somebody of fraud and does nothing, big deal, paying lip service to something that he has no proof of and does not care to add support to any sort of investigation, so whats so good about that? If he was serious in his accusation you would think he would at least suggest that an investigation should be launched.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 02/21/2008

Oh, is this the Mike Bloomberg who couldn't wait to run from the Democratic Party and into the arms of the guys who stole the 2000 election?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 02/20/2008
- aznurse I'm a Fan of aznurse 65 fans permalink

The knowledge about lousy voting machines has been around since 2001 and again in 2004, nothing has been done about it. (i think maybe california did a little) but in general it hasn't been discussed until now. Was there ever any hearings done? So now the elections are just around the corner and everyone is concerned. What to do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 02/20/2008
- nohobear I'm a Fan of nohobear 12 fans permalink

Good old Diane Feinstein (who gave us attorney general Mukasey) was on the committee to look into election reforms. She declared a year ago that 2008 was too close to do anything, and tabled reforms for 2012 (which is when she is expected to retire) Meanwhile, Diebold still refuses to release information about it's software. Google "hacking Democracy", for more info. WE ARE FU$%&ED AGAIN!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 02/21/2008

Does anyone have Bloomberg's phone number?

This scandal with McCain doesn't look good for the Republicans so if they want me to call Bloomberg and talk to him about joining the race I can do that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 02/20/2008

Although now that I think about it, I remember reading an article with some women who said he was mean to them because they were pregnant or he implied they couldn't work for him because they wouldn't make work a priority but it was a long time ago so I can't remember where I read it.

And maybe it was about Rudy but I think it wasn't. We can't have men like that for president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 02/20/2008

Don't know why Obama isn't making an issue of this. Perhaps his camp realizes no point in getting side tracked and wasting resources I suppose. Had this been Hillary however, I suspect she would be making a HUGE deal of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 02/20/2008
- finally I'm a Fan of finally 2 fans permalink

Does any one know what is being done about this? Is there a paper trail that can be checked? Diebold machines involved? Who has most information on this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 02/20/2008
- NYC07 I'm a Fan of NYC07 72 fans permalink

In NYC we use the same machines that they did back in the 1960's when as a little kid my mother used to pick me up and let me flip down the little levers for her, then pull back the big handle to record the vote and open the curtin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 02/20/2008

Hillary actually received 0 votes in some districts as well. Are you saying she would fraud herself too? Lol give me a break..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 02/20/2008

Oh, really? I hadn't heard that it happened to Hillary too.

Geez.

The vote counters are by far the weakest link in our democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 02/20/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

Yeah, makes the thought of November 2008 really scary doesn't it. McCain 40 million, Either Democrat 0 and the total end of democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 02/20/2008

No, the weakest link in our democracy is our citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 02/20/2008
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Yeah, but Obama getting 0 votes in districts in Harlem is highly suspect. On the other hand Hillary getting Zero votes in some all black areas in NYC would not be surprising.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 02/20/2008
- melann830 I'm a Fan of melann830 6 fans permalink

Yes it would be surprising because she has done a lot for those communities and they would not have the health care for their children if she and Schumer had not fought long and hard for it. These constituents now have better choices with regard to second opinions and choice of hospitals. They also have better access to general healthcare, which they did not have before. Back in the day, lower income residents in NY would have had to go to city hospitals and often times receive inferior treatment. Now they can go to very reputable hospitals like Lenox Hill on the upper East side for surgeries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 02/21/2008
- melann830 I'm a Fan of melann830 6 fans permalink

Beautifully put. You are indeed a master of logic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 02/21/2008
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 68 fans permalink
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Is there any doubt the Clintons will do anything at all to hold onto power? They will try to steal this election whenever and wherever possible. I wish I could say I was surprised - but I'm not that naive...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 02/20/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

Go back and find the Sunday NYT article which clearly said there were some districts in NY that reported Clinton having 0, though not as many. But this article does rile up the Obama crowd that rarely, apparently, goes to other sites to check out original sources.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 02/20/2008
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It was a 'handful' for Clinton but ~80 for Obama.

I think a 'handful' could be considered - human error , but 80 is more like a 'bushel'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 02/20/2008

I believe the "undercounting" were to create the perception that the margin of victory for Clinton was greater than it actually was.

Sure, the official votes will be counting, the correct results tallied and the correct margin of victory reported, but a month after Super Tuesday.

Another ploy of manipulation using the media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 02/20/2008

Damn. Get 'em, Bloomie!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 02/20/2008
- horacekent I'm a Fan of horacekent 10 fans permalink

To the Great People of Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island & Vermont,

Please do us all a favor & finally close the door on the Clintons.

You're the Closers. Lets do this thing!

~HK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 02/20/2008
- geobushono I'm a Fan of geobushono 15 fans permalink

I did my part this AM at early voting.

Texan for Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 02/20/2008

geobushono, thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 02/20/2008
- SUNRAI I'm a Fan of SUNRAI 2 fans permalink
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Your country loves you! Thanks...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 02/20/2008
- horacekent I'm a Fan of horacekent 10 fans permalink

Excellent!

~HK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 02/20/2008
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 50 fans permalink

There is a possibility that Barak Hussein Obama may choose to say nothing in public or private about these instances, even when he begins his term as POTUS. Mayor Bloomberg has the experience to make further inquiries about this situation & a personal fortune to pay for these inquiries. This could become very interesting if Mayor Bloomberg continues his inquiries into this situation. Mike Bloomberg is a very powerful person in finance & politics. It will be most interesting to see if Mike Bloomberg will press for further inquiries into this situation. As they used to say in Iran before Iran became an Islamic Republic & a de facto theocracy, "All hell will break loose if a fit hits the shan.". Heavy duty haz-mat garb, precautions & processes won't be of much use if Mayor Bloomberg goes on with inquires re: this situation. The shit will hit the fan & the blow back will be at 500 mph or more till the inquiries end. That could take years. Some of those involved in this situation who have engaged in dodgy conduct could be spending a very long time in a super-max prison under less than comfortable conditions if they serve time in a New York City or New York State prison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 02/20/2008

What is Clinton's middle name? What is Bloomberg's middle name?

You obviously think their middle names are important so please tell me right now. Yesterday you got it wrong - Rodman isn't her middle name.

Or is it only Obama's middle name that you care about?

You ignorant loser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 02/20/2008

Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt. NY needed Fed intervention on it's elections a long time ago. When carpet-baggers without any real results for NY's improvement are able to rise to power (Rudy & Hillary, cases in point, but by far not the only ones, you should see the mess of corruption in Albany) Florida's got nothing on NY's electoral shenanigans. I knew this before a single primary vote was cast. Watching the poll sites carefully weren't enough but at least I made sure my local polling sites knew there were eyes watching & someone taking names enough to spook them into carefully following procedure.

Nice of Bloomy to join the party wagon long after we were already on our way down the road. You want fair results in NY? Better get the Feds involved, because it ain't gonna happen, even with Bloomy's "I'm for the common man" rhetoric.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 02/20/2008
- beholder I'm a Fan of beholder 4 fans permalink
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You trust this Justice Deptment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 02/20/2008
- geobushono I'm a Fan of geobushono 15 fans permalink

Under John Edwards, maybe?...I smell blood in the water.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 02/20/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

Well, if you are going to use the famous journalist Edward R. Murrow's ending comment on CBS News in the fifties as your post name, you might want to also imitate his behavior of checking facts. If you had, you would know that the NYT reported over the weekend that both candidates received 0 votes in several districts. (Though, admittedly, Obama in quite a few more). The reason we who are a little older had such trust in him, was we knew Edward R. Muffow vetted his news stories before opening his mouth or typing his story. That is a practice sadly missing on HuffPo posters commentors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 02/20/2008

I'm a little older too Geo. And I watched my polling site turn me away because my ID address didn't match my registration address. I took the name of the denier, I proceeded to grab a paper ballot, and I filled it out and sealed it. Then I stuck around to watch others get turned away for the same reason. I took more names, I reminded the "older" poll site volunteers the paper ballot is valid if the information was incorrect for some registered democrats, and I passed out the paper ballot. People got visibly nervous and started getting their act together.

There is supposed to be a police officer at the sites...none where I was.

The selection of poll personnel is limited and in an information vaccum.

"Remember, as a stand-by poll worker you will be notified to report to work by the Board of Elections only if your services are needed."
http://www.vote.nyc.ny.us/pollworkers.html

It's only a $10 penalty for failure to return the voter registration book with the ballots. That's it. If it gets lost, a poll worker gets $10 deducted. Wow.

http://www.vote.nyc.ny.us/pdf/documents/boe/pollworkers/pollworkersmanual.pdf

It is definitely going to be fixed by Obama ground support before the elections. NY will not be stolen by Rethugs. I thank HRC for inspiring us to be more Murrow-like instead of passive victims of cheats & incompetents. I vetted my information. Did you vett yours?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 02/20/2008

GeoLee, is there a news reader who actually does his/her own stories today? Aren't they all just teleprompter readers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 02/21/2008
- Lisette I'm a Fan of Lisette 40 fans permalink
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Cheat, cheat, cheat!

That is all the Clintons know!

What does NOW and all the rest of those cry babies say about this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 02/20/2008

We are talking 80 districts, this was no fluke and someone with power is behind this. I hope it does get resolved and before OH and TX votes would be preferable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 02/20/2008
- Suprshrink I'm a Fan of Suprshrink 6 fans permalink

If it was a case of fraud, weren't the perpetrators pretty stupid to erase all evidence of votes for Obama? Wouldn't that have been a dead giveway? And what about the precincts that reported zero for Hillary? Bloomberg and the NY Post are simply beating the same old drum. It's just more hate-mongering, mudslinging, and unjustified rhetoric.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 02/20/2008
- caywen I'm a Fan of caywen 7 fans permalink

Or, as you say, that the perpetrators were pretty stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 02/20/2008

It's a signature. Hillary supporters tend to be uneducated, remember?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 02/20/2008

I read the NY Post every day just for their crazy headlines - they're funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 02/20/2008
- ayc I'm a Fan of ayc 14 fans permalink

What precincts reported zero for Senator Clinton? I would like to see that source, as that is news to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 02/20/2008

Republican Swiftboating Alert!

Look out Senator Obama, you're next on their list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Her_Now

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 02/20/2008
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