Clinton Faces Daunting Delegate Deficit

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DAVID ESPO | February 20, 2008 11:07 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., reacts during a campaign stop at the Dodge Arena in Hildago, Texas, Wednesday, Feb. 20, 2008. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

WASHINGTON — Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton must win 57 percent of the remaining primary and caucus delegates to erase Barack Obama's lead, a daunting task requiring landslide-sized victories by a struggling presidential candidate.

Obama's victories in Wisconsin and Hawaii on Tuesday _ his ninth and 10th in a row _ left him with 1,178 pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses in The Associated Press' count. Clinton has 1,024.

Another 1,025 remain to be awarded, most of them in contests in 14 states, Guam and Puerto Rico. It takes 2,025 to win the nomination.

Further complicating Clinton's challenge, Obama appears particularly well-positioned to win at least one of the remaining states with ease. Mississippi, with a primary on March 11, fits a pattern of Southern states with large black populations that he has won handily, including South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia and Louisiana.

The rival campaigns maintain their own delegate counts. And while both agree Obama is the leader, they differ on the significance.

"The only way in this system to amass delegates is to win by big margins. Close races result in close delegate distribution," David Plouffe, Obama's campaign manager, told reporters in a conference call.

"The only way she can do it is winning states like Ohio 65-35, Texas 65-35, Pennsylvania, you know, 70-30. and you go on and on and on. She'd have to win pretty much all the states, even states where we're considered to have some strength," he added.

Clinton's top aides said Plouffe was deliberately trying to set unrealistically high expectations for the former first lady.

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"We expect to do well in both those states," said Harold Ickes, speaking of Texas and Ohio, which hold primaries on March 4. "But 65 percent is a far reach and there is no expectation here that we're going to hit that number."

"We're in the neighborhood of about 75 delegates behind, that is less that 3 percent of the total number of delegates who have been elected. We expect to narrow that gap substantially by the end of this process," he added.

Obama's lead in delegates won at the ballot box is partially offset by Clinton's advantage among superdelegates _ members of Congress, governors and other party leaders who are unpledged to either candidate. She leads in that category, 238-173, cutting Obama's overall margin to 89 delegates in the AP count.

Superdelegates are free to shift allegiances. And Clinton's recent string of primary and caucuses defeats coincides with a slow erosion of support among the same party leaders who established her as the front-runner months before the first votes were cast.

She has failed to add any since Super Tuesday on Feb. 5, while Obama is slowly gaining ground.

The former first lady lost two more superdelegates during the day, both in New Jersey, when one switched to Obama and the other moved to uncommitted.

Additionally, Reps. Lloyd Doggett of Texas and Ron Kind of Wisconsin, both superdelegates, endorsed Obama.

"My constituents overwhelmingly chose Barack Obama to be their nominee, and I am proud to pledge my superdelegate vote to him as well," Kind said in a statement.

Further underscoring Clinton's political peril, Rep. David Scott of Georgia announced he would vote for Obama rather than the former first lady, and Rep. John Lewis said he might switch, as well.

Superdelegates aside, results in earlier states show how difficult Clinton will find it to overtake Obama's lead when the primaries resume in two weeks.

In general, delegates are allocated on the basis of popular votes within congressional districts, and any candidate who gains 15 percent of the vote is entitled to at least one.

Clinton won New Jersey with 54 percent of the vote and Massachusetts with 56 percent on Feb. 5. But because Obama ran relatively well, particularly in some congressional districts, she won the delegate competition by only 28 delegates combined in the two states.

Contrast that to Obama's home state of Illinois, he won slightly less than 65 percent of the vote _ and won 55 more delegates than Clinton.

The contests left on the calendar include primaries in Ohio, Texas, Vermont, Rhode Island, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Montana and South Dakota as well as caucuses in Wyoming, Guam and Puerto Rico. There are 44 delegates unallocated from primaries and caucuses held earlier.

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Associated Press Writer Stephen Ohlemacher contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton must win 57 percent of the remaining primary and caucus delegates to erase Barack Obama's lead, a daunting task requiring landslide-sized vict...
WASHINGTON — Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton must win 57 percent of the remaining primary and caucus delegates to erase Barack Obama's lead, a daunting task requiring landslide-sized vict...
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MEDITATION REVEALS OBAMA ACCOMPLISHMENT!
I feel left out. America loves Obama but I can't feel it so I scoured the earth searching for an Obama accomplishment. I asked every Obama supporter I know and failed, I watched the media and again I failed, and I did a google search and alias I failed.

I then mediated hour upon hour staring into a flame then closing my eyes thinking only positive thoughts on this young senator with the single focus of finding the accomplishment.

Then I awoke enlighten!!! I Found his accomplishment.

" He has the backing of the average voter who doesn't know why they want to elect him other than they like his speeches that allow them to project all their hopes and desires into one man. Now that's an accomplishment"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 02/21/2008

gsikev, i double dare you te read this article then respond regarding obamas' accomplishments.
i know you won't though.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 02/21/2008

It depresses me to tears to write these words, but:

Hillary Rohdam Clinton is the iconic embodiment of INCOMPETENCE.

The woman had the world's greatest political machine behind her - strategists, fund raisers, status as THE Inevitable nominee, $150,000,000.00, AND a former popular two-term US President - ... and, what does she do with all this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 02/21/2008
- DennyCrane I'm a Fan of DennyCrane 26 fans permalink

It's a pretty good idea of the kind of President she would be. With all those resources and she still ran a lousy campaign. So much for being a good manager.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 02/21/2008

Have we noticed that Sen. Obama has NO events today while Sen. Clinton has a full day of events before tonights debate. Perhaps he has to stay in his room and read up on the many topics he knows nothing about: the economy, national defence, foreign policy......need I go on? Inspirational speaker-yes, prepared leader-no.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 02/21/2008
- Colonial82 I'm a Fan of Colonial82 2 fans permalink

Way to say nothing in a whole lot of words, most people don't campaign on the same day as debates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 02/21/2008

unless they are desperate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 02/21/2008

Check your facts there colonial. Look at what the candidates were doing in the previous 18.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 02/21/2008
- jojojo I'm a Fan of jojojo 11 fans permalink

1-Clinton's campaign has been racist again and again, meaning she either endorsed it, or can't control her own people.

2- Clinton voted to let Bush start the war, and then has voted to continue it, meaning either that she is a war-monger or, more likely, that she has cynically voted for the war because she thought it was a better political move.

You want me to vote for THAT?!

I voted for her twice for senator, and for Bill twice, but NO MORE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 02/21/2008

Are you not keeping up? She can't afford to take any time off. She drug her press corps to rallys on Valentine's Day while Obama spent time with his family.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 02/21/2008

Oh wow you've really opened my eyes with your keen analysis here. Clearly looking at one day of the entire campaign should be more than adequate for judging Barack Obama. And how much national defense and foreign policy experience did Bill have before he was elected president when he was just as old as Barack Obama?

Experience doesn't mean anything if that experience involves kowtowing to the whims of the GOP because it's politically expedient, which both she AND her husband have been guilty of on more occasions than I can even count.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 02/21/2008

You know that is a good point..So I wonder how Hillary feels getting her but kicked by one so IGNORANT!!!!! ps....Better to be thought a fool than to speak and remove alll doubt!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 02/21/2008

Hold up everyone! I'm playing devils (McCain's) advocate. If I truly thought he could win I would volunteer for his campaign. I really think the Republicans are going to tear him apart.I also see a lot of ignorant ppl in the US that will not vote for a black man. I dont agree with that racist ignorance, I just think there are A LOT of those still around. I believe in a few years with some more exp. under his belt he would be a great candidate. It is much more important (to me) to get a Dem in the WH than watch all this bickering which will just hand the keys to McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 02/21/2008
- OkieMon I'm a Fan of OkieMon 34 fans permalink

obama practices deceit...he is deceitful about his muslim background..he is deceitful about the racist church he belongs to...he is deceitful about his mentor relationship with sleezko...he is deceitful about his stance on the war...he is deceitful about campaign finance....he is deceitful about his health care plan..he is decitful about his plagiarism..he is deceitful about his drug use......he's just one deceitful person...unfit to be president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 02/21/2008
- Colonial82 I'm a Fan of Colonial82 2 fans permalink

Thank you Karl Rove, way to state even smear email out there

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 02/21/2008
- Colonial82 I'm a Fan of Colonial82 2 fans permalink

Oh I would go get your payment from the Clinton Campaign before they run out of money or else you will have to sue them like a lot of other people they forgot to pay (like in Iowa).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 02/21/2008
- OkieMon I'm a Fan of OkieMon 34 fans permalink

no smear...every word is true...knock yourself out trying to deny one word...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 02/21/2008

But McCain the war hawk is fit to be president? Knowing how much this war has cost in human lives, jobs, the economy, and the fact he wants to keep this going for the next 20-30-40 or more years is good for this country? What are you sniffing? Obamma is willing to do what the others won't. Mccain prevented the US from going back for the other POWs left behind. How wonderful is that? I call it traitorous. You really like not having a job, no healthcare, losing your home or others to this bastard? I dont'. Obamma isn't perfect, nobody is. I suppose its better to have someone who cheated on his wife, lied about using drugs as a POW, not being a racist, is acceptable to you? MCacain is as racist as it gets. He cheated on his wife, lied about not backing waterboarding. He is the liar, not Obamma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 02/21/2008

how about some proof chump

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 02/21/2008

regarding okman

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 02/21/2008

You see the problem here is that you have to actually SUPPORT your arguments with EVIDENCE. Repeating them over and over again is not like chanting words for a spell; it does not conjure them into being. If you have a point to make, why not make it? We're all ears. But I suspect we'll get nothing of the kind from you. Or better yet, we'll get a long list of links to other people who can't name any sources either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 02/21/2008
- OkieMon I'm a Fan of OkieMon 34 fans permalink

fact...in 2006 before he was a candidate he was for a gradual withdrawal in Iraq..in 2007 when he was a candidate he wanted an immediate withdrawal...fact...his black church he belongs to has a racist minister who is a mentor for obama....fact...obama is involved in a shady land deal with his mentor sleezko that will be revealed at sleezko's trial next month-obama called it the worst mistake of his life...fact...at first obama said he would use federal money in his campaign and now he says he won't...could go on and on but i question whether you are open minded.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 02/21/2008

okmon, i double dare you te read this article then respond regarding obamas' accomplishments.
i know you won't though.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 02/21/2008
- ctom I'm a Fan of ctom permalink

I hope Hillary stays in the race and fights on.

This will help the economy (i.e. increased spending by both camps) and will teach a valuable lesson to rabid Hillary supporters by draining their money. Looks like a double whammy of good things for Obama and the country.

Go Hillary!

Also where is that land that Bill wanted to show? I think that'll be a better investment than what was given to Hillary versus what was gained thus far.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 02/21/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

12/1/03: "Iraq will take 10 years."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT4n_lBYm4Y

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 02/21/2008

Rezko trail begins March 5. Miracles happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 02/21/2008

One more thing, I tried, offered to help her with fund raising, PR, ect. They were too arrogant to accept my help, even though we did a campaign that worked for a Mo. senator. That kind of arrogance, is what is keeping her from winning. When you are losing, you have nothing left to lose. In her case, she should have taken me up on the fundraising, and the ads that would have left her with money in her coffers come November. its hard to help someone who won't listen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 02/21/2008

cruisepuppy, she would probably except your offer now. :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 02/21/2008
- SShaw490 I'm a Fan of SShaw490 38 fans permalink

Ickes is exactly what's wrong with Clinton's campaign. He knows she's more like 160 delegates behind, not 75. He knows she has to beat Barack on earned delegates in order to attract enough superdelegates to put her over the top. He knows that voters can get on a number of websites or watch CNN/MSNBC and find all of that out - and yet, he gets on a CC and says something that he knows isn't the truth.

Clinton's problem is she's running a 1980 campaign in 2008. She's running a campaign that depends on the ability to keep information under wraps. You can't do that in 2008. And that's why she's going to lose. Although Barack has been beating her fair and square, Hillary isn't the problem with her candidacy - her problem is her campaign. She's selected people for the campaign based on their loyalty to the Clintons, not their abilities. She valued loyalty over competence. I think Bush has shown America that's a bad tactic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 02/21/2008

the big problem is the clintons ran their campaign thinking it would be a cakewalk. i think you can point to this as the reason they spent money foolishly, they never imagined any of the other candidates raising the kind of money they had in their warchest. then bam! obama has more money, starts gaining media attention, lo and behold he wins iowa, a bastion of white middle america. hillary & bill say oh shit we are in big trouble. the rest is history.
by the way in 2007 the clinton campaign spent half a million dollars on parking alone.
mind boggling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 02/21/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 76 fans permalink

How DARE Hillary attacks Obama on his senate record. You should check out her record.
Absolutely ZERO, got to name a library, etc.
and that is an accomplishment. How hypocritical
of her to start this when she is sitting in a
glass house herself. She is old, she won't change - Obama is still young, still fresh, and
he will embrace change! Hillary always voted to give in to Bush, the banks, the credit card companies, the healthcare industry,etc. and that is what made me turn against her, her past!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 02/21/2008

There isn't a prayer at this point for her, unless she paid off all of the super delegates. That is the only way she can win. That is on top of winning texas and Ohio. A friend who is a lobbyist in DC tells me they don't want her in the white house as president. She rubbed too many people the wrong way. The don't like her. Which leads me to think this gal should plan on either a lesser job in Obamma's camp, or write another book.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 02/21/2008

cnn is reporting that hillary clinton has resigned from the democratic party to run as independent candidate with ross perot as her vp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 02/21/2008
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Let's get some new, young blood in office. It is time for a huge change in this country. The dems and repubs of the olden days are useless. Hawaii had 4,000 voters when John Kerry ran and 38,0000 in 2008. Does that tell you something? I have no use for the elders in the dem party. If there is a way to screw up 2008, they will find it and it will be good-bye forever to the millions of new dem. voters. The dems. deserve to be placed in the loser column for decades to come, if and when they chase their tails, as is their pattern, and lose the WH, yet again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 02/21/2008

after ohio & texas i wonder if hillary will try to divide the party. there is no way she is going to win both states by 30 points.
she will be lucky to win either at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 02/21/2008
- SShaw490 I'm a Fan of SShaw490 38 fans permalink

I don't think she will. The country is more and more aware of McCain's instability and poor judgement, and if Clinton does anything that would seriously damage Obama's chance to beat him, that would eliminate Hillary's opportunity to either become Senate Majority Leader or to run in '012 or '016. If Hillary prevents Obama from winning against McCain - it's the end of her career. She could still be a Senator, but she'd be ostracized by the party. Above all else, Hillary understands politics. She knows she has to walk a fine line - try to beat Barack, but don't undermine his likely run at McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 02/21/2008

agreed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 02/21/2008
- IkeChicago I'm a Fan of IkeChicago 18 fans permalink

What legislatives accomplishments does Hillary Clinton have, not referring any bill she added her name to but the legislation she initiated. Obama has ethics reform, nuclear regulation and veterans benefits to name three. Obama has much less time in the senate than Hillary, what has Hillary done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 AM on 02/21/2008
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