Is Bill Deliberately Sabotaging Hillary's Campaign?

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First Posted: 02-20-08 06:05 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:46 AM

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No one better understands both the subtle politics of race and the acute sensitivities of Democratic primary voters than Bill Clinton.

Why, then, did the politically dexterous former president raise the issue of race during the South Carolina primary in a manner offensive to many blacks and whites, putting his wife's presidential bid into a potentially fatal downward spiral? And why did he incite the animus of countless voters by appearing to angrily and cavalierly dismiss Obama's anti-war credentials?

The question of motivation, always a minefield, will very likely go unanswered -- but consider this possibility:

Bill Clinton either does not want his wife to become president, or he is deeply ambivalent about the prospect of Hillary taking over the Oval Office where he once held court.

Bill Clinton's distinctly negative role first became apparent on January 7 when, in what the Guardian described as a "red-faced, finger-wagging rant," Clinton called Barack Obama's claim of consistent opposition to the Iraq war "the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen" -- a remark seen as gratuitously contemptuous and interpreted/spun by Obama supporters (and some neutral observers like Democratic analyst Donna Brazile) to suggest that the former president had dismissed Obama's qualifications for higher office.

A few days later, preceding the January 26 South Carolina primary, Bill Clinton infuriated some black leaders -- and many white Democrats -- when he sought to downplay the significance of a prospective Obama win.

Clinton compared Obama to Jesse Jackson, noting that "Jackson won South Carolina twice," in 1984 and 1988 -- but did not get anywhere near winning the White House. In 1984 and 1988, however, Jackson received less than 10 percent of the white vote in South Carolina -- far less than Obama won this year. In addition, Bill Clinton said that his wife and Obama "are getting votes, to be sure, because of their race or gender -- that's why people tell me Hillary doesn't have a chance of winning here."

The comments provoked anger because Clinton appeared to be trying to marginalize Obama as a "black" candidate whose main, if not exclusive, appeal is to African American voters, and not as a candidate with the ability to draw universal support.

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Obama crushed Mrs. Clinton in South Carolina by a bigger margin than expected, 55-27, tying her among white men, and picking up 24 percent of the overall white vote. As her husband predicted, Mrs. Clinton did indeed win white women 42-22.

Posing the question of Bill Clinton's motivations to a number of Democratic and Republican political analysts produced a wide range of answers.

Some did not want to venture into the murky area of motivation. All three of the top partners at the Republican polling firm Public Opinion Strategies, for example, begged off:

Bill McInturff, "Above my pay grade as a pollster"; Glen Bolger, "I'm not the best person to speculate about Bill Clinton's state of mind on this, so I'll have to respectfully decline"; Neil Newhouse, "OMG - so her win diminishes him in some way. Interesting. But my BA in Psych doesn't qualify me to address this one."

Others, however, were not so shy.

Democratic media consultant James Duffy acknowledged that he is "not capable of making that type of psychological determination, but," he noted, "it seems like every step of the way, whether wittingly or unwittingly, he does things that are very destructive to her. Now she has a chance to get what she obviously wants more than anything else, the Presidency, and he steps forward and louses things up for her."

Republican media specialist Alex Castellanos, a man who takes pleasure in speculation, replied to a query with an intriguing email:

"What an interesting idea. 'Who's the fairest of them all?' Cain and Abel. Could be... I would have no way to know... but....I wonder if perhaps it is perhaps the opposite: in trying to prove he wants her to have it 'more than self,' he may be trying too hard... and that explains the loss of his golden touch, which he has certainly and for the first time in his charmed life, lost.


"This is why they don't allow doctors to operate on family members. Like most of us, perhaps he is torn and both impulses are true. Is he diminished if his unique accomplishment is duplicated by his wife, who was the wizard behind the curtain of his success? Yes. Would he do anything to see her elected? I would guess so.

All so human, isn't it?"

In a more down-to-earth commentary, Democratic campaign adviser Dan Gerstein said:

"Possible? Technically yes. But I don't like doing too much sideline psychology, especially when it comes to the Clintons, and trying to guess their motivations. That said, it does seem, at a minimum, that he has lost objectivity/perspective about the campaign, and that his emotions are guiding his behavior as much as if not more than the most gifted political mind of our generation is."

Colby political scientist L. Sandy Maisel said "that certainly is a question that has occurred to me, but I cannot really go there. It seems to be that he was so used to being able to slip out of any hole he dug for himself -- and he is so self-indulgent -- that he could not imagine not saying what he really felt and getting away with it."

Maisel added, however, that he agreed with the premise that Bill Clinton's comments during the South Carolina primary may have proved to be "the major cause" of Hillary Clinton's defeat:

"Up until then, she was holding her own with African-American voters and had alienated none of the African-American leadership. After that, she was on the defensive, losing votes and losing confidence. Add ten percent more of the African-American vote in a number of states and she turns losses into wins or lopsided losses into close ones. Given the tight ties she (and he) had with the African-American community before that time--deservedly so in my view--it is hard to place cause elsewhere."

The strongest disagreement with the notion that Bill Clinton might be torpedoing his wife's bid came from the American Enterprise Institute's Norman Ornstein:

"I honestly do not think so. I think he deeply wants her to win. It may be part atonement for what he put her through in the White House, partly to advance and cement his presidential legacy. And it is also, believe it or not, that he loves and truly respects her (of course, in his own inimitable way.)"

Asked to comment on the suggestion that Bill Clinton either does not want his wife to become president or is deeply ambivalent, Clinton's communications director Howard Wolfson replied succinctly, "Oh, please."

No one better understands both the subtle politics of race and the acute sensitivities of Democratic primary voters than Bill Clinton. Why, then, did the politically dexterous former president raise ...
No one better understands both the subtle politics of race and the acute sensitivities of Democratic primary voters than Bill Clinton. Why, then, did the politically dexterous former president raise ...
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- Manx I'm a Fan of Manx 25 fans permalink

This has crossed my mind several times in the past few weeks. If Bill is trying to undermine her campaign, it's probably on a subconscious level.

Another thing that turned voters off was Bill's obtrusiveness in the campaign - he became so dominant that people got the impression that a Clinton presidency would be a co-presidency. Bill should have kept his distance, appearing once in a while above the fray but always behaving in a manner suiting a statesman or ex-president. Also, his aggressive manner revealed undertones of sexism. A female couldn't do it on her on so Bill, the man, rode to the rescue to help the good little woman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 02/20/2008

Yes, I agree to a point but I fault the ridiculous and insane coverage of the media. Unbelievably biased for one and blowing up everything into something far beyond what it started as.

And I do think there have been some Obama surrogates who lit a fire and pushed the racist talk.
I thought that was over the top and wasn't touched by the press.

My theory is that they don't want to appear racist so they handle Obama with kid gloves.
anyway. Just my thoughts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 02/20/2008

Does anyone seriously think that a man with Bill Clinton's ego and sense of entitlement would have accepted second fiddle while a woman got the limelight? Co-presidency indeed. In his mind, it would have been a third term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 02/21/2008

I honestly believe we have given Bill more credit (for his intelligence) than he apparently deserves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 02/20/2008
- DaRight I'm a Fan of DaRight 6 fans permalink

.....

Ya Think?


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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 02/20/2008
- angelbravo I'm a Fan of angelbravo 3 fans permalink

Might be something to this. I've heard a talking head claim Hillary coined the Man from Hope slogan of the 1992 campaign. She may have been the brains behind all his success.
If true its a shame that she subjected herself
to all the pain to be betrayed again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 02/20/2008

Hmmmm.... Ponder this....

Bill's post-presidential life, with Hillary in the Senate: Lots of money from speaking fees, lots of overseas trips with business cronies to schmooze dictators (and make tons of questionable money), as much illicit sex as he can handle.

Bill's post-presidential life with Hillary in the White House: 24/7 scrutiny under a microscope, drying up of lucrative speaking fees (half the venues being inappropriate for a first-husband), no more clandestine trips abroad for shady meetings, no more sex, and worst of all.... she can monitor his diet daily.

Now... why do you think he's torn about her becoming president?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 02/20/2008
- naturesway I'm a Fan of naturesway 12 fans permalink

Chimpy, you are vile and also possibly jealous.
We call that the Clenis syndrome.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 02/20/2008

Jealous of Bill? Interesting concept. Vile? You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Clenis Syndrome? Even a typically under-educated Clinton supporter should be able to see it doesn't apply here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 02/20/2008

To me, it seems Bill and many others simply underestimated the impact Barack Obama made on voters. The Clinton camp probably never thought he would be such a serious contender. They were not prepared to counter that, and to react to his success. Added to that, the fact that the Clintons desperately want to return to the White House, probably genuinely thinking Hillary is the woman for the job, and she might be it. They never saw it coming..the Obama fever.
Now, the Clintons regrouped, and became nasty. So entrenched in their goal and ambition, they are missing the huge sign on the wall: it seems the voters have already decided who they want to see run for President, and it is not Hillary.
I think they can both be great presidents. They have very similar politics, similar agendas, they only differ in style. But what a difference!
I will vote for whoever will get the nomination, but if I had to decide...Obama would get my vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 02/20/2008
- illinoisan I'm a Fan of illinoisan 24 fans permalink
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Maybe it's the same sort of DC insider myopia that made them all think it was a good idea to invade Iraq.

From out here in flyover country in 2002, I was able to see what a terrible idea it was and that the case for WMDs was trumped up AND I also was able to predict Obama's success in the primaries over a year ago. All because I'm not blinded by elite group-think.

Obama saw all of this too, btw.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 02/20/2008
- skycontrol I'm a Fan of skycontrol 4 fans permalink

The Hillary & “Bill in a China Shop” show is in freefall.

There are two stages before political irrelevancy.

First the politician becomes the object of derision and then they become the object of pity. That is where HRC finds herself.

Hey, call me silly, but doesn’t her campaign remind you of the war in Iraq.

Bush was fixated on winning Baghdad, thinking that constituted victory and gave little thought to the aftermath.

HRC was fixated on winning Super Tuesday, feeling confident that she would have it wrapped up by then, so why bother with the caucus states.

Bush thought that the Iraqi people wanted democracy but what they really wanted was security.

HRC thought the American people wanted experience, but what they really wanted was change.

Bush thought that since he had the support of the Chalabis the support of the Iraqi people would follow.

HRC thought that if she had the support of the Rangels and Youngs, she would have the support of a core constituency.

Both Bush and HRC can be faulted for hiring people based on loyalty and a distant, secondarily, competence.

Neither Bush nor HRC can be accused of admitting errors.

Neither can be accused of humility.

Both feel that if you are not with them, you are against them.

Bush calls his enemies evil.

HRC threatens to “demonize” those who question her wisdom.

All of this is so old school!

Well a political Tsunami is sweeping across this land and I am reminded of a Dylan line, “Something is happening here and you don’t know what it is, do you Mr. Jones!”

Skycontrol 02/20/08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 02/20/2008
- AgathaX I'm a Fan of AgathaX 13 fans permalink
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I think there are two possible explanations for Bill's poor performance:

(1) Bill is doing exactly what she wants him to do. If Bill tried to tell her that what she wanted him to do is a bad idea, and then she lost, she would blame him. Better to do exactly as she asks. I think this is the most likely explanation. I think comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson idea was her idea, or that of her advisors, that she signed off on and that Bill was just following orders. Because he owes her. I think his testy tone was also her idea. There are stories about how in the White House he would go off on people when she came in because she seemed to expect it and then act like nothing happened after she left the room. Similar sort of thing.

(2)I once visited a museum that contained the work of the competent sculptor Walter Russell. His work was not edgy but it was good. Quite good. With one exception. The bust he did of his wife, whom by all accounts he loved, was not up to par. It was sappy beyond excuse. It is possible that Bill Clinton simply loses his skill when trying to get his wife elected. I think this is the least likely explanation, but possible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 02/20/2008

If you think about it from Bill's perspective, what would he have to gain from a Hillary presidency?

Not much.

Too much media attention on him and he wouldn't be free to pursue his "extracurricular" activities.

Life is good being a popular FORMER president. Taking trips, getting paid massive amounts of money for "speaking" engagements while lobbying for foreign countries.

And being under the radar enough so that when you need to "indulge," none's the wiser.

The more I think about it, the more it's a no-brainer. Bill does not want his wife to be president. He's paying back a favor for her standing by him, and then the slate is clean, and he can go back to be ex-President Bill Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 02/20/2008
- strifeknot I'm a Fan of strifeknot 14 fans permalink

It's a stretch to say Bill is sabotaging the campaign at all. Hillary is losing this one all on her own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 02/20/2008
- lisakaz I'm a Fan of lisakaz 27 fans permalink

I think he does have unconcious ambivalence, frankly. I don't know that'd I'd call it deliberate, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 02/20/2008
- KnoxBlues1 I'm a Fan of KnoxBlues1 3 fans permalink

What do you expect from the guy who said, "Yeah, but I didn't inhale." I knew then he was either a liar or a weasel. Turns out he was both. No, his wasn't a bad 8 years, but it wasn't too hard to look not bad compared to Daddy Bush and W.
Too bad nobody gave W a blowjob so Congress would impeach him. High crimes and treason just don't compare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 02/20/2008
- JGatsby I'm a Fan of JGatsby 33 fans permalink
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The nice thing about psycho-babble is that you can pretty much interpret anything to mean anything. Someone has sex all the time? Its because they are afraid of sex so they over compensate. Its because they are really gay and over compensate. Its because they have a sex addiction. Blah, blah, blah... Psychology is a very immature science. Even trained therapists who got Bill on the couch (not that way, get your mind out of the gutter) wouldn't be able to come up with definitive answers for why he does what. So how can we? More importantly when we are illegally occupying another country, facing potentially apocalyptic climate change, have reverted to treating prisoners using the values of Nazis why should we even care?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 02/20/2008

I wish people would leave analysis to trained professionals who have actually met the people and talked to them instead of making a diagnosis based on the information they have but nobody listens to me anymore.

Also comparing Americans to Nazis is really offensive and just wrong - please don't do that anymore.

Thank you,

Freud

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 02/20/2008
- horacekent I'm a Fan of horacekent 10 fans permalink

To the great people of Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island & Vermont,

Please do us all a favor & finally close the door on the Clintons.

You're the Closers. Lets do this thing!

~HK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 02/20/2008
- Rigso I'm a Fan of Rigso 2 fans permalink

maybe he wants to ruin Obama so he can lose and Hillary can run in 2012....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 02/20/2008
- emsique I'm a Fan of emsique 5 fans permalink
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Hey, he sabotaged HIS presidency when he got head in the oval office. It's his M.O.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 02/20/2008
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Bill blatantly tried to paint Obama as the "black candidate" in South Carolina in an attempt to limit Obama's appeal to non-blacks. He hoped that just getting the media to discuss whether Obama was the "black candidate" would be enough to derail Obama's campaign.

He expected that on Super Tuesday, Obama would be trounced, and then Bill would spend February to November kissing black babies to appease black alienation and ensure that we'd be motivated to vote for Hillary in the fall. It was the same race strategy he used in 1992. Thanks Bill! After we stood by you throughout your entire presidency, even standing by our man during the Lewinsky scandal, this is how you decide to pay us back.

Well, clearly Bill miscalculated. Importantly, he underestimated Obama's ability to appeal to non-blacks. However, the single-most important thing that happened to derail Bill's race-based strategy was the endorsement of Obama by Ted Kennedy (and Caroline Kennedy).

The Kennedy endorsements right after the South Carolina primary immediately changed the story in the media from whether Obama was the new "Jesse Jackson" to whether Obama was the new "JFK" or "RFK."

Kennedy knows how the game is played. He saw how Bill tried to use divisive racial politics, not because he's a racist, but to support his wife's campaign.

So contrary to popular belief, Bill clearly loves his wife (and he definitely wants her to be president - if only so that he'll get back into the White House himself). Ted Kennedy, on the other hand, clearly loves his country. Thank you Senator Kennedy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 02/20/2008
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I think that Bill desperately wants Hillary to become president. His wife's failure in her bid for president will be a negative footnote in his legacy - how negative depends on how low they are willing to go to try to eke out a win in the Democratic nomination.

As for Bill's racial antics in South Carolina, I believe that none of the 'experts' Tom Edsall consulted noted one key fact: Bill has a long, sad history of using racially-coded rhetoric to advance his family's presidential ambitions. Everyone remembers Clinton's Sister Souljah Moment, his rushing back to Arkansas to oversee the execution of a mentally retarded black man, and his 'off-the-record' criticism of Jesse Jackson during his 1992 presidential campaign. These moves were designed mostly to show whites that Bill wouldn't be beholden to "the blacks" - though blacks had long been the most loyal base of the Democratic party.

Despite Bill's antics in the Democratic election in 1992, African-Americans still voted overwhelmingly to support his presidency in the fall. Bill only got 39% of the white vote in 1992, but he received 83% of the black vote, thus ensuring his win over George I.

Then, in 1996, African-Americans again voted overwhelmingly to reaffirm our support for Bill. That year, he only got 43% of the white vote, yet he received 84% of the black vote, again ensuring his election as president.

So what does Bill do after we put him into office twice, guaranteeing his place in the history books? He reverts to his same tired old racial antics in 2008 to help get his wife elected as president. Shameful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 02/20/2008
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