Is Bill Deliberately Sabotaging Hillary's Campaign?

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First Posted: 02-20-08 06:05 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:46 AM

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No one better understands both the subtle politics of race and the acute sensitivities of Democratic primary voters than Bill Clinton.

Why, then, did the politically dexterous former president raise the issue of race during the South Carolina primary in a manner offensive to many blacks and whites, putting his wife's presidential bid into a potentially fatal downward spiral? And why did he incite the animus of countless voters by appearing to angrily and cavalierly dismiss Obama's anti-war credentials?

The question of motivation, always a minefield, will very likely go unanswered -- but consider this possibility:

Bill Clinton either does not want his wife to become president, or he is deeply ambivalent about the prospect of Hillary taking over the Oval Office where he once held court.

Bill Clinton's distinctly negative role first became apparent on January 7 when, in what the Guardian described as a "red-faced, finger-wagging rant," Clinton called Barack Obama's claim of consistent opposition to the Iraq war "the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen" -- a remark seen as gratuitously contemptuous and interpreted/spun by Obama supporters (and some neutral observers like Democratic analyst Donna Brazile) to suggest that the former president had dismissed Obama's qualifications for higher office.

A few days later, preceding the January 26 South Carolina primary, Bill Clinton infuriated some black leaders -- and many white Democrats -- when he sought to downplay the significance of a prospective Obama win.

Clinton compared Obama to Jesse Jackson, noting that "Jackson won South Carolina twice," in 1984 and 1988 -- but did not get anywhere near winning the White House. In 1984 and 1988, however, Jackson received less than 10 percent of the white vote in South Carolina -- far less than Obama won this year. In addition, Bill Clinton said that his wife and Obama "are getting votes, to be sure, because of their race or gender -- that's why people tell me Hillary doesn't have a chance of winning here."

The comments provoked anger because Clinton appeared to be trying to marginalize Obama as a "black" candidate whose main, if not exclusive, appeal is to African American voters, and not as a candidate with the ability to draw universal support.

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Obama crushed Mrs. Clinton in South Carolina by a bigger margin than expected, 55-27, tying her among white men, and picking up 24 percent of the overall white vote. As her husband predicted, Mrs. Clinton did indeed win white women 42-22.

Posing the question of Bill Clinton's motivations to a number of Democratic and Republican political analysts produced a wide range of answers.

Some did not want to venture into the murky area of motivation. All three of the top partners at the Republican polling firm Public Opinion Strategies, for example, begged off:

Bill McInturff, "Above my pay grade as a pollster"; Glen Bolger, "I'm not the best person to speculate about Bill Clinton's state of mind on this, so I'll have to respectfully decline"; Neil Newhouse, "OMG - so her win diminishes him in some way. Interesting. But my BA in Psych doesn't qualify me to address this one."

Others, however, were not so shy.

Democratic media consultant James Duffy acknowledged that he is "not capable of making that type of psychological determination, but," he noted, "it seems like every step of the way, whether wittingly or unwittingly, he does things that are very destructive to her. Now she has a chance to get what she obviously wants more than anything else, the Presidency, and he steps forward and louses things up for her."

Republican media specialist Alex Castellanos, a man who takes pleasure in speculation, replied to a query with an intriguing email:

"What an interesting idea. 'Who's the fairest of them all?' Cain and Abel. Could be... I would have no way to know... but....I wonder if perhaps it is perhaps the opposite: in trying to prove he wants her to have it 'more than self,' he may be trying too hard... and that explains the loss of his golden touch, which he has certainly and for the first time in his charmed life, lost.


"This is why they don't allow doctors to operate on family members. Like most of us, perhaps he is torn and both impulses are true. Is he diminished if his unique accomplishment is duplicated by his wife, who was the wizard behind the curtain of his success? Yes. Would he do anything to see her elected? I would guess so.

All so human, isn't it?"

In a more down-to-earth commentary, Democratic campaign adviser Dan Gerstein said:

"Possible? Technically yes. But I don't like doing too much sideline psychology, especially when it comes to the Clintons, and trying to guess their motivations. That said, it does seem, at a minimum, that he has lost objectivity/perspective about the campaign, and that his emotions are guiding his behavior as much as if not more than the most gifted political mind of our generation is."

Colby political scientist L. Sandy Maisel said "that certainly is a question that has occurred to me, but I cannot really go there. It seems to be that he was so used to being able to slip out of any hole he dug for himself -- and he is so self-indulgent -- that he could not imagine not saying what he really felt and getting away with it."

Maisel added, however, that he agreed with the premise that Bill Clinton's comments during the South Carolina primary may have proved to be "the major cause" of Hillary Clinton's defeat:

"Up until then, she was holding her own with African-American voters and had alienated none of the African-American leadership. After that, she was on the defensive, losing votes and losing confidence. Add ten percent more of the African-American vote in a number of states and she turns losses into wins or lopsided losses into close ones. Given the tight ties she (and he) had with the African-American community before that time--deservedly so in my view--it is hard to place cause elsewhere."

The strongest disagreement with the notion that Bill Clinton might be torpedoing his wife's bid came from the American Enterprise Institute's Norman Ornstein:

"I honestly do not think so. I think he deeply wants her to win. It may be part atonement for what he put her through in the White House, partly to advance and cement his presidential legacy. And it is also, believe it or not, that he loves and truly respects her (of course, in his own inimitable way.)"

Asked to comment on the suggestion that Bill Clinton either does not want his wife to become president or is deeply ambivalent, Clinton's communications director Howard Wolfson replied succinctly, "Oh, please."

No one better understands both the subtle politics of race and the acute sensitivities of Democratic primary voters than Bill Clinton. Why, then, did the politically dexterous former president raise ...
No one better understands both the subtle politics of race and the acute sensitivities of Democratic primary voters than Bill Clinton. Why, then, did the politically dexterous former president raise ...
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- wedgie I'm a Fan of wedgie 17 fans permalink
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I think the real problem is Hillary. To put this on Bill is not fair. His mistakes have been minor compared to Hillary's voting record and her lack of charisma.

Hillary can't be human. She can't inspire. She can't connect. It is a fundamental flaw in her public persona. That coupled with her constant efforts to placate the right wing have left her with little love from the Democratic base.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 02/20/2008
- Mahavishnu I'm a Fan of Mahavishnu 3 fans permalink

These Clinton haters come up with some really stupid stuff. First the Clintons are so desperate for Hillary to win that they will sink to any level...No­w BC wants his wife to lose? He is purposely trying to assure her loss? This is loony tunes. I mean this drivel from Edsall is even worse than his regular drivel and is embarrassing on every intellectual level.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 02/20/2008

Yes Bill sabotaged his wife's campaign. It all goes back to the day in the whitehouse she said she would divorce him.

"Bill you disgraced our family, and you are going to make me president so I can set things straight. Otherwise this will be the most embarrassing divorce in the history of America you asshole!"

But Bill is no punk, nobody pimps the Big Dog!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 02/20/2008

Most of HuffingtonPost writers, all corporate-owned media, the KKK, along with other misogynist white males who happen to HATE WOMEN, are sabotaging Hillary; but most 'DELIBERATELY' the elitist neoliberal banker-types, ala: Kristol -- YES! they are SABOTAGING a Hillary presidency.

This is primarily ALL about economics.

The neoliberals and the corporate elite don't want HILLARY, because she would really kick ass if she had the chance. She would put a stop to their parasitic ways and they know it.

If Obama gets the nomination, they'll swipe him off like an annoying mosquito : he won't even know what hit 'em!

Oh, well! Here comes: McCAIN '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 02/20/2008

Hillary could have received about 50% of the black vote if Bill Clinton and other Hillary surrogates stayed clear of a "color aroused campaign." Her in her pocket negroes with the Congressional Black Caucus, and black preachers did not help her campaign by sniping at Obama. Black folks were not feeling Hillary after she tried to talk black, in a black church.

Her talking about MLK sealed her fate with black voters, no matter how much black political leaders kissed up to Billary.

Now will the congressional Black Caucus tell Hillary it's over? Your husband set you up. Your husband made sure that you lost the race, and you went along with his color aroused campaign strategy. You lost your base of support, "black folk." Your done Billary. Stick a fork in it. Done! Do you hear the words of divorce in the Clinton's future?

Probably not, they deserve each-other.

African American Political Pundit.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 02/20/2008
- Teri I'm a Fan of Teri 6 fans permalink

he hates her as much as the public hates her, of course he is trying to sabotage her campaign. face it, he wants out of the marriage and this is the only way!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 02/20/2008
- plutopie I'm a Fan of plutopie 2 fans permalink

No Bill - it's all on YOU

Bill is such a pathetic narcissist that he would have never tolerated his wife being such the center of attention in the universe that revolves about him - he was starting to feel that no matter how he's spin it he would just be chopped liver at THAT party. But the conflict ... his dry drunk Bush-ego is also struggling with Obama eclipsing him as the hottest thing in American politics in the last 50 years. "What to do - rock and a hard place - I'm so damn mad and my face is getting so damn red I'm about ready to explode in rage and I've just got to find a way OUT..."

Bill's unconscience resolves the conflict and it does feel good - better Barack than the witch. He 'accidently' though clumsily scuttles the old hulk and at the same time gets in a hit at Barack by just about calling Barack the n-word in public.
Everybody is shocked but it's a two-fer, or at least a one and a halfer

"Then the genius of my unconscious dawned on me -- they're still making hot women everyday and I never could have dumped Hill's ass once we were both back in HER white house. Hey - she's back under my thumb! I'm so f'ing smart I can't believe it! Free at last, free at last, thank God almighy I'm free at last!"

In the end Slick Willie couldn't have had it any other way

My only problem now is to see Obama as brilliant president I was too f'ed up to every even imagine or 'pull off' as slick willie, and finally see myself for who I am

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 02/20/2008
- veracal I'm a Fan of veracal 2 fans permalink

Breaking News on MSNBC

John McCain in sex scandal...­see NY Times website!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 02/20/2008

The Countess: "He may have fancy diplomas but he is not a very intelligent person and we forget that he was super lucky to even win the presidency­."

Where do you people come from??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 02/20/2008

I don't know but it's really hard to take this place seriously anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 02/20/2008

They will be in Divorce Court 90 days after she withdraws her candidacy; there will be no further use for their sham marriage.

She'll have a distinguished career in the Senate and he (separately) will continue being a world-traveling Ambassador­-Without-P­ortfolio and Serial Fornicator.

They have both descended into grotesqueness from where they sat 10 years ago...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 02/20/2008
- veracal I'm a Fan of veracal 2 fans permalink

I'm guessing the mental institution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 02/20/2008

Check this out:

George W. Bush's overall job approval rating has dropped to a new low in American Research Group polling as 78% of Americans say that the national economy is getting worse according to the latest survey from the American Research Group.

Among all Americans, 19% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 77% disapprove. When it comes to Bush's handling of the economy, 14% approve and 79% disapprove.

Among Americans registered to vote, 18% approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president and 78% disapprove.

Worse than Richard Nixon in the days before he resigned in disgrace during Watergate, worse than Jimmy Carter during the Iran hostage crisis, much worse than Bill Clinton when he was impeached.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 02/20/2008
- imsosure I'm a Fan of imsosure 28 fans permalink
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Someone posted a few weeks back that Hitler had better ratings.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 02/20/2008

I will believe this poll when I see it replicated by another poll. CNN, Harris and Newsweek all had him ranging from 29% to 32% approval in the beginning of the month. I find it really difficult to believe that he has dropped this much in a week or two. Color me skeptical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 02/20/2008
- Paul I'm a Fan of Paul 32 fans permalink

Hillary is finished now, why wait?

Thanks, Bill, for framing the Texas and Ohio primaries so that if Hillary wins, she is magically back in it.

Obama is the future, Hillary and Bill are the past. That is the real issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 02/20/2008
- LawProf I'm a Fan of LawProf 2 fans permalink

Of course it's over: Hillary is losing by the same margins as Huckabee. But I want to see her explain on the debates why general election voters should see her tax returns, but not primary voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 02/20/2008
- imsosure I'm a Fan of imsosure 28 fans permalink
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I don't think he is deliberately sabotaging things, he just can't help himself.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 02/20/2008

He has foot-in-mouth disease: Every time he opens his mouth, he puts his foot in it; except when propositioning young ladies and other peoples' wives...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 02/20/2008

Good lord...is this man for real????

Does he work for Huffington?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 02/20/2008

I think the entire country is getting a serious case of Clinton fatigue. There is so much arrogance, and self-agrandizement. These folks have become extraordinarily wealthy in the last few yeats -- that ought to be enough for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 02/20/2008
- CBS I'm a Fan of CBS 18 fans permalink
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I think the Clintons have a very toxic relationship. This campaign simply broadcasts it into the homes of those paying attention because of the election. It is not something new.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 02/20/2008
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