Myers: What "Professionals" Came Up With Clinton's Plan?

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - Myers: What "Professionals" Came Up With Clinton's Plan? stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS


First Posted: 02-21-08 01:44 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:46 AM

I Like ItI Don’t Like It
Myers Clinton

Lost, occasionally, in the hoopla of Sen. Barack Obama's candidacy and the news-grabbing stunts of President Bill Clinton, is discussion of Sen. Hillary Clinton's historic run to be the first female president.

Gender, however, has proved as much a hindrance as help to Hillary, said Dee Dee Myers, the former Clinton administration press secretary. And following losses to Obama in the last ten primaries, she adds, the former first lady will have a "very difficult" time in turning her electoral fortunes around, in part because of her sex.

In an interview with the Huffington Post, Myers, author of "Why Women Should Rule The World," offered sweeping explanations for why Clinton has stalled: Her candidacy was overwhelmed by concerns over dynastic politics; Clinton was forced to walk the difficult line between appearing powerful or domineering; the press has been unreasonably harsh. But the sharpest critiques were saved for the overall campaign strategy.

"They woke up after Super Tuesday and just didn't have a plan," said Meyers. "They didn't have a firewall between Feb 5 and March 4. There was no state where they said we were going to make sure we win: Maine, Wisconsin, wherever it may be... How is that possible? What group of professionals came up with that plan?"

Making matters worse, she added, there are few tactics or attacks that Clinton can initiate which will likely bring Obama down to earth.

"When I really realize this guy was impossible to run against," said Myers, "was when someone asked him how his [Iowa] victory felt. And he said: "Just like I told my kindergarten teacher it was going to feel. I was like 'Oh... Point. Set. Match.'"

With all these obstacles, Myers concluded, Clinton's campaign finds itself in a fragile place. In fact, at one point in the interview, Myers caught herself slipping into the past tense when discussing Hillary's run at the White House.

"[Billie Jean King], when she played Bobby Riggs in the battle of the sexes tennis match in the 1970s, said that there was so much pressure she felt if she lost that she would set back her gender for 50 years," recalled Myers. "I don't think people feel that way for Hillary Clinton and that's a good thing. I don't think that in spite of the obstacles that gender has presented and the opportunity that gender has presented, it would have been historic for her to have been... I'm talking in the past tense. Look, I think the path for her is difficult, not impossible. She has to thread such a small needle from here on out. That's just reality."

Story continues below
advertisement

As with the anecdote above, through all the bumps in the campaign road has been the subtext of Clinton's gender. And as Myers posits, sex has reared its ugly head multiple times in the presidential nomination.

Take the media. "You can still say anything in the press about a woman and really there is no penalty. That is not necessarily true about race, nor should it be," said Myers. "The things people have said about Hillary Clinton are mindless. Take Rush Limbaugh. And not just him, Chris Matthews can go on the air and say the only reason people vote for her is because her husband cheated on her. You could never say similar things like that about other candidates and not pay a penalty."

MNSBC, in particular, drew Myer's ire. The culture of the station, she argued, had allowed for misogynistic rhetoric, like when now-suspended correspondent David Shuster said daughter Chelsea Clinton had been "pimped out" to recruit superdelegates.

"I think what he said on the air is just what everyone says in the green room and behind the cameras over there," said Myers. "He just got caught."

Myers should know about the politics of gender. In the Clinton White House, she was paid less and held a lower title than her male predecessors. Her book, to that end, is an ode of sorts to the positive role that woman could play in public and private life if stereotypes were simply lifted. And in that regard, Myers summarized, women of all ages and political stripes feel something of an affinity to Clinton's candidacy.

"I think gender in some ways has been Hilary Clinton's ally, but in more ways it has been an obstacle," she said. "[Women] have felt this strong pull to both this idea of a woman president but also a reaction against what people instinctively feel is the treatment [of Clinton]. I think a lot of women are experiencing it very personally."

Lost, occasionally, in the hoopla of Sen. Barack Obama's candidacy and the news-grabbing stunts of President Bill Clinton, is discussion of Sen. Hillary Clinton's historic run to be the first female p...
Lost, occasionally, in the hoopla of Sen. Barack Obama's candidacy and the news-grabbing stunts of President Bill Clinton, is discussion of Sen. Hillary Clinton's historic run to be the first female p...
Report Corrections
 
Comments
575
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next › Last » (10 pages total)

Let the Monday morning quarterbacking begin. Clinton ran a decent campaign. People just liked the other guy better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 02/21/2008

Congratulations. You nailed it. Or less people liked her better. Either way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 02/21/2008
- j0e I'm a Fan of j0e 6 fans permalink

yup... really pisses the horse-racers off, though ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 02/21/2008
- julianna I'm a Fan of julianna 2 fans permalink
photo

I think Obama deserves some credit for running an almost flawless campaign on every level, including their state of the art Web presence and viral marketing. I also think it's true what people say, Hillary is the Politician and Obama is the Statesman. Also, (knock on wood) when we write the epitaph on Hillary's candidacy, it will be when Bill went on the offensive prior to New Hampshire, and people saw her campaign for what it was -- Bill's third term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 02/21/2008
- wyorange I'm a Fan of wyorange 6 fans permalink

I have to admit I am a Clinton supporter but I do have to sort of take exception to "Obama is the Statesman." Maybe that is the perception of him but do we generally not have to wait for history to determine whether someone was a stateman? He may be proven to be a stateman, but I am not ready to give him that crown before he even steps onto the international stage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 02/21/2008
- DRaymond I'm a Fan of DRaymond 65 fans permalink
photo

Hillary isn't just running as the first woman candidate, but also as the first first lady to run for president.

She could have just ignored all that and run as a two term senator, but that would have put her on the same footing as her rivals. Instead she decided to make a big point of how much more 'experienced' she is. That predictably makes conservatives' blood boil, but it also makes for some strange unanswerable questions in the mind of independents. Is she really saying that she was the one running things behind the scenes during Bill's terms? Or is the 'experience' that she is talking about just a way of hinting that Bill will be back in the White House again? Of course she denies both suggestions but then a moment later she is back trumpeting her experience. Them Bill blankets the airwaves sounding like he really realy really misses the in-flight meals on Air Force One and the confusion is all there again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 02/21/2008

Who cares if republicans blood boils. 40% of Americans will ALWAYS vote republican and 40% will always vote Democrat. It is the 20% in the middle who ultimately end up deciding which way our nation goes... and many of those 20% are the undecideds, who are easily tricked with slick sound bites, clevers ads and Madison avenue mind tricks - who was it that said if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it?
Of course Hillary and Bill discussed politics behind closed doors as did many wives of past presidents - duh! So what, good for her and the others for inserting their opinions into their respective husbands decisions. If she was not married to Bill Clinton, I suspect he would never have become elected President. Hillary's motivation has always been to serve the nation, improve the lot for families, workers, children and not focus on improving the lot of the super-rich. But she knew to play the game in the boys club, she had to act tough on defense and thus vote for the war at that time which was in line with the mood of 80% of the nation during that time. Too many who post here seem to have short memory spans or maybe you were still in school doing drugs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 02/21/2008
- KRANKY I'm a Fan of KRANKY 14 fans permalink

Your numbers are a tad skewed.
Only 26%, at best, are the dead-ender, Tory, Fascist, Repuke, dregs of the barrel.
36-39% are Democratic, although those numbers will have to be revised, most likely upward.

The Repuke/Fascist party is dying. They are going the way of the Whigs, another group of stupid people.

That leaves us with the corporate/money party Dems...i.e. Hillary, Shumer, Hoyer, Pelosi, Reid, Feinstein...and the PEOPLE party of Democrats: Feingold, Boxer, Kucinich, Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 02/21/2008
- jbcowan I'm a Fan of jbcowan 3 fans permalink

Maybe we were in school doing drugs, but we still had enuf damn sense to be against the war....what's your dumbass excuse ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 02/21/2008
- preatorius I'm a Fan of preatorius 8 fans permalink
photo

Do you people read?

Shirley Chisholm was was a Congresswoman, representing New York's 12th District for seven terms from 1968 to 1983. In 1968, she became the first African American woman elected to Congress. On January 23, 1972, she became the first major party African American candidate for President of the United States. She won 162 delegates. Other women who ran for President of the United States in 1972 include Linda Jenness and Evelyn Reed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 02/21/2008

Who brought racism to America? It wasn't the Native Americans or African-Americans.

If racism had never been an issue in America, then it wouldn't be an issue in this Presidential campaign. Sometimes rules actually work against the ones who made them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 02/21/2008
- wyorange I'm a Fan of wyorange 6 fans permalink

"Who brought racism to America?"

Guess it must have been those native Americans!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 02/21/2008
- factcheck2 I'm a Fan of factcheck2 6 fans permalink

"Lost, occasionally, in the hoopla of Sen. Barack Obama's candidacy..." The smearing of Senator Clinton is not an occasional or random event, but a calculated mission by the corporate media to make sure she doesn't win the nomination. McCain may or may not survive the current flap but Obama will certainly crumble when the network turn to the task of exposing his Exelon and Rezko scandals. But first things first, and that means waging this open season on Clinton. That we've stood idly by and watched this - or even worse, bought into the clever Obama marketing hype - says a lot about how much we really want to extract the neocons from the White House. For more on their manipulation of this election, I've posted an article at thecityedition.com. Here's a direct link:
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 02/21/2008
- Beowoof I'm a Fan of Beowoof 10 fans permalink

If you wish for the negatives on Obama, be careful of what you wish for. Have you truly looked for the negatives in Hillary, or are they dismissed as trivial or evil with an agenda?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 02/21/2008
- mikekev58 I'm a Fan of mikekev58 8 fans permalink

The "negatives" about Hillary Clinton have been part of the media-political atmosphere since 1992, when she dared say she was no Tammy Wynette. What could possibly be new? Obama, on the other hand, is fresh meat and you better get ready. The Beast must be fed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 02/21/2008
photo

Get ready, baby. By November people will "know" that B. Hussein Obama is radical Islamic jihadist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 02/21/2008
- wyorange I'm a Fan of wyorange 6 fans permalink

Have to pretty much agree with factcheck2. I have been posting for some time on HuffPost that once the corporate media (republican spin machine) turns away from its temporary idol, Obama, to the republican nominee we will be hearing things about Obama which should have been looked into during the primaries.

Don't really need to look for negatives in Hillary, just need to read HuffPost and the blogs point them out over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. (Most have been repeated over, and over, and over, and over by the corporate media for several years. So those of us who are supporting Sen. Clinton realize she has some negatives unlike the Obamamites who have, with his help, placed Obama on that pedestal of pure ethics, high standards, and a different kind of politican. I think the corporate media may take him down a peg or two and help make him into a real person.

Frankly think either Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama has a better than even chance of beating Sen. McCain in the general election. Nevertheless, if comes down to McCain/Obama I will be voting for the quantity I know instead of the unknown.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 02/21/2008
- escapee I'm a Fan of escapee 3 fans permalink
photo

Clinton has already been vetted.... hahaha! As if the repukes are done with her!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 02/22/2008
photo

Maybe Barack is just a better candidate then Hillary?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 02/21/2008

The best commercial I've seen for HRC is, ironically enough, an MSNBC documentary. Hillary should have embraced the images of her awkward, rebellious young self--from bell bottoms to braless statehouse dinners in Arkansas. She was a rebel, a provocative thinker and took fire in a way that Obama hasn't. Along with her "experience" and "doer" memes, the images of 60s optimism and the lessons learned would have transformed her candidacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 02/21/2008

Why isn't it noted that men are overwhelmingly voting for their own gender, e.g., Obama?

When women vote their gender, it's activism. When men do it, it's life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 02/21/2008
photo


I know Hillary would be an excellent President for this country.

But she tied herself too close to the Rockefellers via her husband, and played party to the rich elite which is the last thing she should have allowed to happen to her campaign.

SHE should have been the true progressive all this time. Not Edwards or Barrack, or even Kucinich. SHE should have had true progressive journalists like Arianna or Amy Goodman subliminally supporting her in the honest struggle for the middle class and for the sake of talking truth to power. These are some of the best allies she could ever want to have!! How can she not see this?
Michael Moore himself stated hers was the real slot for which his support naturally gravitated. But she was too proud about her stance with Bush's war, and she insisted on not being the true Progressive for single-payer, honest to goodness healthcare that America really really wants, and through and after this election will ultimately demand..
But she rejected true progressives by not being their for us and kicking the stupid rich elite and Rockefellers out the door so that she could find her voice with us. We are the source of this change that the motherlode of the American voting mass are so hungry for.
We are the ones who have stood quietly waiting to wipe the tears from our Goddess of Liberty's eyes as we have watched Bush trample our Constitution, having his henchmen lie before Congress and all of us with their "can't re-call" statements, and lie us into a war so needlessly that isn't even really a war but an occupation to serve his base. We hate what this corrupt administration has done to our country, and poor Hillary doesn't have a clue how she blew it so carelessly and needlessly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 02/21/2008
- Jazz42 I'm a Fan of Jazz42 6 fans permalink

Did you cut and paste your comments. I remember seeing the same comments yesterday on another site, word for word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 02/21/2008

If it was another site, maybe "castlerider" is a poster on another political blog and just uses a different name on that blog. "Castlerider" might simply be copy and pasting his/her own comments from the other blog.

p.s. I make comments on several different sites and use different names on all of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 02/21/2008
- nanotubz I'm a Fan of nanotubz 7 fans permalink

Paid Penn operative or volunteer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 02/21/2008

Had she done what Kucinich did she would have not gotten this far. Arianna is not a true progressive, Arianna is about promoting her fame and fortune first and foremost and good for her. Then Michael Moore is just making polite excuses to cover the real reason he is not supporting Hillary so he doesn't piss off more women who he hopes will pay money to see his future movies. Fact is sexism is alive and thriving as this election cycle has shown, as DeeDee Meyers is pointing out. Hillary did not "blow it" - that is like saying Africans "blew it" by getting dragged out of Africa" to be turned into slaves 400 years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 02/21/2008

Of course Hillary blew it. She was ahead coming out of Super Tuesday. But then she stopped campaigning. Okay, so there were caucuses, and I guess those shouldn't count. ? I think her managers didn't have a plan past Super Tuesday. She ran out of money (needed to loan herself $5million) and didn't really have a ground game (grass-roots) organization. Well, whose to blame for that? The media??? Yes, let's blame the media and those awful male sexists. (By the way, I'm a woman.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 02/21/2008
- flacon I'm a Fan of flacon 11 fans permalink

Hillary used the "I don't recall" answer over 90 times during grand jury questioning. This from "the smartest woman in the world". Those lies bothered me also. I've moved on and am now able to sit up and take nourishment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 02/21/2008

Of the 535 members in the House and Senate, only 16% are women (16 in the Senate & 70 in the House).
Put men in a group, a football team, no one will differentiate race or ethnicity.
Put women in a group, a basketball team, no one will differentiate race or ethnicity.
Put men and women in a group, all wearing the exact same uniform, and everyone will immediately differentiate male from female.
Gender is still an acceptable bias.
Men tend to vote for men for positions of leadership.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 02/21/2008
- robertell I'm a Fan of robertell 2 fans permalink

so do woman from your statistics....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 02/21/2008
- CarbonDate I'm a Fan of CarbonDate 6 fans permalink
photo

Less than 8% are black: (1 in the Senate [Obama] and 39 in the House).

No one will differentiate race? Are you serious?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 02/21/2008
- mikekev58 I'm a Fan of mikekev58 8 fans permalink

You missed the point by a wide mile, CarbonDate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 02/21/2008
- passport I'm a Fan of passport 2 fans permalink

16 women have overcome bias to be US senators.
only one black man. He is a very special person.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 02/21/2008
- KDH I'm a Fan of KDH 17 fans permalink
photo

U.S. Senator: Hiram Revels became Senator from Mississippi from Feb. 25, 1870, to March 4, 1871, during Reconstruction. Edward Brooke became the first African-American Senator since Reconstruction, 1966–1979. Carol Mosely Braun became the first black woman Senator serving from 1992–1998 for the state of Illinois. (There have only been a total of five black senators in U.S. history: the remaining two are Blanche K. Bruce [1875–1881] and Barack Obama (2005— ).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 02/22/2008

"Myers should know about the politics of gender. In the Clinton White House, she was paid less and held a lower title than her male predecessors."

So if Bill and Hillary are so pro-women, why did they short-change Myers under their watch??

Again, the problem is not Hillary's gender, it's Hillary and Bill. There's a new poll which has Hillary's rating among her NY constituents at an all time low...her negative campaigning is adversely affecting her own Senate seat.

I agree with Myers that Hillary's campaign is inept but it goes further in showing that Hillary is inept in choosing who to trust and listen.

She wasn't ready Day One, she can't oversee her campaign spending, she hasn't been able to win 10 straight primaries...again, it's not her gender, its been her ineptitude.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 02/21/2008
- Grulg I'm a Fan of Grulg 6 fans permalink

I remember Lewis getting pulled over for DUI once..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 02/21/2008

Received a call from the Obama campaign this afternoon. First, they apologized for disturbing our dinner (they weren't). Second they asked about the March fourth primary. I told them this household supports Obama. They asked about voting early. I said no, it is a family ritual to go vote together. Then they asked: do you need a ride to the polls?

That is why camp Obama has outfoxed camp Hillary. A polite person telephoned and never asked for money, but rather if we needed assistance getting to the polls. This is quite a contrast from the Kerry campaign in 2004, where once I asked for a yard sign and I was told I would have to give them five dollars!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 02/21/2008
- robertell I'm a Fan of robertell 2 fans permalink

You got stabbed with a Yard sign? By a Clinton supporter? You should tell Drudge....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 02/21/2008

please consider making your family ritual voting early and going to caucus together. it's really, really important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 02/21/2008
- wyorange I'm a Fan of wyorange 6 fans permalink

Would hope that if Sen. Obama is elected one of first steps in changing the landscape of American politics is do fight to do away with caucuses. Think they violate the principle of "secret ballot" that has been a supposed strength of our election process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 02/22/2008

That's because Karl Rove's republicans have donated HUGE sums of money to the Obama camp to make sure Hillary does not get the nomination... and not giving much to their own party. That's because they know they can beat him in the election easier than Hillary. Obama is like a Hollywood facade, looks great on the outside but when you open the door to go inside, there's not much there there. He is yet another rah-rah cheerleader, like Bush was, but he is a master orator and he should get an Oscar for his speeches. But then many Americans like to vote for the fluff - ala Hollywood Reagan, I can drink a beer-with-Bush etc. Considering the level of unawareness of the masses who spend more time watching American Idol and other mindless TV shows it is to be expected that it is relatively easy to hoodwink and fool the masses - just like they did with 9/11 and the subsequent Iraq war. If it has to be Obama so be it, I just hope he doesn't get manipulated by "the forces" due to his naivete.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 02/21/2008
- CarbonDate I'm a Fan of CarbonDate 6 fans permalink
photo

Quit lying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 02/21/2008
- jp5472 I'm a Fan of jp5472 28 fans permalink
photo

Your posts are absolutely sad. Where do you come up with this unsubstantiated babble? Face it. This was HRC's nomination to lose and she and her campaign have done nothing but step by step lose it right out of the starting gate. Quit dreaming up every excuse in the book, plus some, as to why poor Hillary doesn't stand a chance because of the mean cruel world, and every last man (is Karl Rove considered a man?) in it is out to get her. Not one of your remarks can be substantiated. They are rife with a "sore loser" feel to them. Your comments alone are enough to turn anyone off to the whole HRC campaign at any level, in the primaries or the general election should she make it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 02/21/2008
- wyorange I'm a Fan of wyorange 6 fans permalink

I have had somewhat of the same type feeling that the republicans have something they are holding back waiting for Obama.

I have not been impressed by the fluff, or gotten that "warm and fuzzy" feeling from Sen. Obama. Have several concerns so will not be supporting him in a general election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 02/22/2008
photo

What was the call like from the Hillary camp? Oh yeah, you didn't get one. But you did seem to dislike the Kerry camp. You know, the guy SUPPORTING OBAMA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 02/21/2008

It's about Hillary, not a female president. It's about lack of trust and the gnawing realization that it would be a third term for her husband, not a first for her. Sorry, but she's responsible for her own campaign, and if she's not, then what kind of leader is she? I hope the next female candidate has less baggage. I think the country is ready for a woman at the helm and Hillary can take a little credit for at least bringing the fact to the public consciousness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 02/21/2008
- escapee I'm a Fan of escapee 3 fans permalink
photo

I'm with you on this one, deb. I admire Hillary very much but, unfortunately, she has Bill baggage. Watching him wag that giant finger again reminds me of his scandals in the 90's. I don't want to go back to those times... never, ever!

NO-I-WON'T!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 02/21/2008
photo

If it's Bill's third term, why should we think it's not Bills third campaign as well?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 02/21/2008
- Boadicea I'm a Fan of Boadicea 64 fans permalink

Here we go again with this "Poor female Hillary" crap. Myers cites Rush Limbaugh's comment about Hillary and says if he'd said that about a black man there would have been consequences.

Hellow? Magic Negro, anyone?
The difference is that Obama is smart enough to know when to minimize that kind of thing. Good grief, no one has been more the subject of xenophobic rants than Obama.

And the comment about pimping out Chelsea? What about all the "fear the black candidate" stuff that Clinton surrogates were doing prior to SC, in order to drive away white voters?

There's no way Clinton's had a rougher time of it in this regard than Obama. The wingnuts in the media will attack them both equally. Obama handles it better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 02/21/2008
- robertell I'm a Fan of robertell 2 fans permalink

Magic Negro? Is there such a thing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 02/21/2008

You are so right about the slurs Obama has had to deal with, especially those from Clinton surrogates and supporters. (Not to mention Bill's subtle little jabs.)

Remember Bob Kerrey's statement? Kerrey, a Clinton supporter, made sure he used Obama's middle name, "Hussein", in a not-so-subtly couched reference to "Muslims" in Obama's family in a statement he made to the Washington Post.

Remember when N. Y. Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, another Clinton supporter, used the racially-charged phrase "shuck and jive" when talking about Obama to the New York Post?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 02/21/2008

Remember when Michelle Obama, another Obama surrogate, said "Ain't no blacks in Iowa" after the caucuses there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 02/21/2008

Should Hillary lose the nomination, the reality is that she will have blazed a trail for women in the future who desire to run for President. She has done this by running a credible campaign and proving that a woman can win primaries and rack up delegates.

The bad news is that there are no women readily available to take up the challenge - if Hillary hadn't run this year, what woman in the political world would have had the credibility and track record to have had Hillary's success?

Women better get used to the idea that they probably won't see a woman elected President any time soon. It took Hillary 35 years working to get there. A very minor percentage of elected officials are female - particularly at the national level. Those who have been elected seem very reluctant to go through what Hillary has experienced. That would take real courage. Better to hang out in Congress and play it safe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 02/21/2008
- robertell I'm a Fan of robertell 2 fans permalink

I would a voted for her, but then along came the Magic man...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 02/21/2008

Hey ladies, let's do what the men have done so many times in the past - start looking now for a real smart, blond, thin attractive woman who can deliver speeches that are inspirational as Obama's, who can "drink beer with the guys", who is an excellent debater and she doesn't need much experience politically - then we'll promote her for national office and watch the men go gaa-gaa over her cause she's cute, got boobs they can see and is slim. Some men would vote for a female if they can imagine themselves in bed with her. However, if a woman candidate reminds them of their mom or an aunt, then they are not interested. Of course there are millions of men who are supporters of Hillary, but then these are real men whose brain is on their shoulders and not elsewhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 02/21/2008
- CarbonDate I'm a Fan of CarbonDate 6 fans permalink
photo

Well, duh. Sex appeal has always helped male candidates (see: Kennedy) with the female vote, and you *know* it would help a female candidate with the male vote.

Why are people always surprised when people like candidates who are likeable more than candidates who talk to them like they're children? Makes no sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 02/21/2008

Should Hillary lose the nomination, the reality is that she will have blazed a trail for women in the future who desire to run for President. She has done this by running a credible campaign and proving that a woman can win primaries and rack up delegates.

The bad news is that there are no women readily available to take up the challenge - if Hillary hadn't run this year, what woman in the political world would have had the credibility and track record to have had Hillary's success?

Women better get used to the idea that they probably won't see a woman elected President any time soon. It took Hillary 35 years working to get there. A very minor percentage of elected officials are female - particularly at the national level. Those who have been elected seem very reluctant to go through what Hillary has experienced. That would take real courage. Better to hang out in Congress and play it safe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 02/21/2008

Blaming men and the MSM for the shape in which Hillary's campaign find itself is sheer denial. Hillary Clinton started off as the frontrunner even before this campaign began, and she believed not only that she was the frontrunner, but that her nomination was inevitable. She did not take Senator Obama seriously and was not prepared for the battle that lay ahead of her. Although she was aware of her high negatives, she surrounded herself with people who loved and admired her, and supported her candidacy. But what she didn't realize was the overwhelming number of Americans who were looking for an excuse not to vote for her, but who were willing to vote for her if she was indeed the inevitable candidate. And then along came Barack Obama, and everything changed! Even now, in spite of her losses and the growing odds against her, she still believes that she should be able to claim the nomination, just because she's Hillary. Throughout the primary election process, she has virtually self-destructed, and the blame lies, neither with the media nor with men, but squarely with her. It was her campaign, and she blew it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 02/21/2008
- jp5472 I'm a Fan of jp5472 28 fans permalink
photo

Your post explains exactly what has happened here, even furthered by tonight's debate where her "advisors" made her learn a jab that drew mostly silence with a smattering of boos in a state that she was leading in. Thank you for intelligently explaining to all those who are in sheer denial the "where" and "why" HRC is in the predicament she is in. Is this country ready for a woman president? Yes! HRC is proving without a doubt that she is not ready to take the lead, not so much by her previous baggage, but by her actions and the actions by those that surround her that she has allowed during this campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 02/21/2008
- wyorange I'm a Fan of wyorange 6 fans permalink

"Even now, in spite of her losses and the growing odds against her, she still believes that she should be able to claim the nomination, just because she's Hillary."

Certainly disagree with your "just because she's Hillary" part of that statement. Unlike most women in this country, I think Hillary has drive and aspires to be more than that "just a woman" which most women in this country are apparently satisfied with. I do not see Hillary as someone who gives up and quits because things look like they might be a little harder.

Have to admit that I will be disappointed in not seeing her as president. As a registered republican (66 yrs old) I had hoped to see a woman president of our country before I died. Do not see anyone even close to the stature of a Hillary on the national scene. Maybe I will be surprised and Michelle Obama will run after Barack. (Appears to be intelligent enough, but do not think she has been in trenches doing battle long enough.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 02/22/2008
- semorg I'm a Fan of semorg 6 fans permalink

blame the campaign not the candidate. Is this their new strategy? To play victim. I am seeing through it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 02/21/2008
- robertell I'm a Fan of robertell 2 fans permalink

look at her crowds from here on out...they look like they want to leave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 02/21/2008
- plages I'm a Fan of plages 17 fans permalink

No wonder we have these runs for "our" White House! If the Clinton's can't do it with all of the so called experience, and people with the know how, and she states that she's ready for her 1st. day in the oval office, take a look at where she is now! Good god almighty, take another look at what all of this experience talk is all about from the current administration. Debacle after debacle, and they must have at least 78 years of experience among the top 86 people!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 02/21/2008
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next › Last » (10 pages total)
Comments are closed for this entry

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect