AP Survey: Superdelegates Jump to Obama

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STEPHEN OHLEMACHER | February 22, 2008 05:27 PM EST | AP

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Presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., greets supporters during a rally on the campus of University of Texas-Pan American Friday, Feb. 22, 2008, in Edinburg, Texas. (AP Photo/Rick Bowmer)

WASHINGTON — The Democratic superdelegates are starting to follow the voters _ straight to Barack Obama.

In just the past two weeks, more than two dozen of them have climbed aboard his presidential campaign, according to a survey by The Associated Press. At the same time, Hillary Rodham Clinton's are beginning to jump ship, abandoning her for Obama or deciding they now are undecided.

The result: He's narrowing her once-commanding lead among these "superdelegates," the Democratic office holders and party officials who automatically attend the national convention and can vote for whomever they choose.

As Obama has reeled off 11 straight primary victories, some of the superdelegates are having second _ or third _ thoughts about their public commitments.

Take John Perez, a Californian who first endorsed John Edwards and then backed Clinton. Now, he says, he is undecided.

"Given where the race is at right now, I think it's very important for us to play a role around bringing the party together around the candidate that people have chosen, as opposed to advocating for our own choice," he said in an interview.

Clinton still leads among superdelegates _ 241 to 181, according to the AP survey. But her total is down two in the past two weeks, while Obama's is up 25. Since the primaries started, at least three Clinton superdelegates have switched to Obama, including Rep. David Scott of Georgia, who changed his endorsement after Obama won 80 percent of the primary vote in Scott's district. At least two other Clinton backers have switched to undecided.

None of Obama's have publicly strayed, according to the AP tally.

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There are nearly 800 Democratic superdelegates, making them an important force in a nomination race as close as this one. Both campaigns are furiously lobbying them.

"Holy buckets!" exclaimed Audra Ostergard of Nebraska. "Michelle Obama and I are playing phone tag."

Billi Gosh, a Vermont superdelegate who backs Clinton, got a phone call from the candidate herself this week.

"As superdelegates, we have the opportunity to change our mind, so she's just connecting with me," Gosh said. "I couldn't believe she was able to fit in calls like that to her incredibly busy schedule."

In Utah, two Clinton superdelegates said they continue to support the New York senator _ for now.

"We'll see what happens," said Karen Hale. Likewise, fellow superdelegate Helen Langan said, "We'll see."

Other supporters are more steadfast.

"She's still in the race, isn't she? So I'm still supporting her," said Belinda Biafore, a superdelegate from West Virginia.

Obama has piled up the most victories in primaries and caucuses, giving him the overall lead in delegates, 1,362 to 1,266.5. Clinton's half delegate came from the global primary sponsored by the Democrats Abroad.

It will take 2,025 delegates to secure the nomination at this summer's national convention in Denver. If Clinton and Obama continue to split delegates in elections, neither will reach the mark without support from the superdelegates.

That has the campaigns fighting over the proper role for superdelegates, who can support any candidate they want. Obama argues it would be unfair for them to go against the outcome of the primaries and caucuses.

"I think it is important, given how hard Senator Clinton and I have been working, that these primaries and caucuses count for something," Obama said during Thursday night's debate in Austin, Texas.

Clinton argues that superdelegates should exercise independent judgment.

"These are the rules that are followed, and you know, I think that it will sort itself out," she said during the debate. "We will have a nominee, and we will have a unified Democratic Party, and we will go on to victory in November."

Behind the scenes, things can get sticky.

David Cicilline, the mayor of Providence, R.I., indicated this week that his support for Clinton might be wavering after _ he contended _ members of her campaign urged him to cave to the demands of a local firefighters union ahead of her weekend appearance there. The firefighters, in a long-running contract dispute with Cicilline, have said they would disrupt any Clinton event the mayor attends. A Clinton spokeswoman said the campaign would never interfere in the mayor's city decisions.

Obama has been helped by recent endorsements from several labor unions, including the Teamsters on Wednesday.

"He's our guy," said Sonny Nardi, an Ohio superdelegate and the president of Teamsters Local 416 in Cleveland.

The Democratic Party has named about 720 of its 795 superdelegates. The remainder will be chosen at state party conventions in the spring. AP reporters have interviewed 95 percent of the named delegates, with the most recent round of interviews taking place this week.

The superdelegates make up about a fifth of the overall delegates. As Democratic senators, both Clinton and Obama are superdelegates.

So is Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory, which is one reason his phone rings often.

He is a black mayor, and Obama has been winning about 90 percent of black votes. His state has a March 4 primary with 141 delegates at stake. The Democratic governor, Ted Strickland, is stumping hard for Clinton _ and perhaps a spot on the national ticket.

A phone call from former President Clinton interrupted Mallory's dinner on a recent Saturday.

"I continue to get calls from mayors, congresspeople, governors, urging me one way or another," said Mallory, who is still mulling his decision. "The celebrities will be next. I guess Oprah will call me."

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Associated Press Writers Ace Stryker in Salt Lake City, Laura Kurtzman in Sacramento, Tom Breen in Charleston, W.Va., John Curran in Montpelier, Vt., Joe Milicia in Cleveland, Dan Sewell in Cincinnati and Anna Jo Bratton in Omaha contributed to this report.

(This version UPDATES delegate count; Democrats Abroad issued corrected allocation)

WASHINGTON — The Democratic superdelegates are starting to follow the voters _ straight to Barack Obama. In just the past two weeks, more than two dozen of them have climbed aboard his presiden...
WASHINGTON — The Democratic superdelegates are starting to follow the voters _ straight to Barack Obama. In just the past two weeks, more than two dozen of them have climbed aboard his presiden...
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- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 353 fans permalink
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The people who voted for Obama including myself and the people who will vote for him are more important than Superdelegates.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 02/22/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 45 fans permalink

the truth is none of us are important - - the power structure is important and we're all expendable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 02/22/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 353 fans permalink
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in4success

the truth is none of us are important.......
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Not this time, not this year.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 02/23/2008
- mrdontplay I'm a Fan of mrdontplay 3 fans permalink

uh oh she is spreading that truth stuff again

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 02/23/2008
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It's you Obama! Lead us Obama! Put $$ into the education of "green" energy at the university and community levels and especially at the business level of "green energy"...put the $$ into orgainc farms... farmers CAN grow from the earth...not from the science lab...we went to the moon...but we don't know our own ocean...put NASA in the Ocean...literally!...fund it. Trade knowledge with others...I thought that's what they ment by "global-world"...which we are a part of. Lets not weaponize our protective outerspace. Please be a TCHNOLOGICAL LEADER...for the better of humanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 02/22/2008
- IkeChicago I'm a Fan of IkeChicago 18 fans permalink

First poll results conducted after Wisconsin primary show Obama now with double digit lead in Texas.

http://www.decisionanalyst.com/publ_data/2008/obama.dai

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 02/22/2008
- lynnn I'm a Fan of lynnn 42 fans permalink

You know texas is a red state it will always be a red-state, it's been on for the last 300 yrs. So of course it doesn't count!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 02/23/2008
- XYZ I'm a Fan of XYZ 2 fans permalink

If it turns blue that would be amazing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 02/23/2008
- jmundstuk I'm a Fan of jmundstuk 8 fans permalink
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How did Texas vote in 1960 and 1964? Where did Sam Rayburn, speaker of the House for many years, come from?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 02/23/2008

Will the superdelegates jump back after Larry Sinclair takes his polygraph test? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 02/22/2008
- TomSutpen I'm a Fan of TomSutpen 3 fans permalink

If Larry Sinclair gets hooked up to a Polygraph machine it'll explode from sheer embarassment at having to point out the obvious.

Whether his story is true or not (and I highly doubt that it is) that guy is clearly nuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 02/22/2008
- IkeChicago I'm a Fan of IkeChicago 18 fans permalink

If you hang out with skunks you begin to smell like one, the same thing happens when you hang out with Sinclair. Don't respond to anything like this Macaca, he stinks right along with Larry Sinclair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 02/22/2008
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Like this down and out guy can actually remember everybody he's blown since 1999. Even if he passes the polygraph test it would be because of the he-looka-lika-bama thang in his crazy little mind.

This BS really makes me angry, especially the part that because Obama is black he has to be the one doing that cheapass Crack. Black people in the hood don't do crack as a preference they do it because it's cheap. Somebody is suppose to buy Crack for themselves and then buy the more expensive stuff for their white 'just meet' companion.

Argggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 02/22/2008
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You mean Larry Sinclair that fat white homeless toothless scuffy-looking crackheaded ugly as sin attention seeking guy who claims he blew some black guy in the back of HIS limo and at HIS comfort inn room after he cruised and picked the black guy up a some UPSCALE LOUNGE in Chicago and that they proceeded to buy powder cocaine(for him cause he's white) and crack cocaine for the black dude ( cause black ppl love dem som' crack ) while he was visiting Chicago to go to his neice's kindergarten graduation back in 1999 and had the nerve to do a video post on youtube that your troll ass wants to spread around enough to give it more credance than it deserves because yout trolling ass believes everything someone says on a blog on a youtube posting and oh he claims that the black dude was obama.
that Larry Sinclair , Macaca

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 02/22/2008
- lynnn I'm a Fan of lynnn 42 fans permalink

Wow I love your racist handle. Is that you George Allen? Still bitter over that youtube thing. Do you still obsess over your sister you sick f*ck!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 02/23/2008
- jadez I'm a Fan of jadez 3 fans permalink

Hillary Clinton will withdraw from the race the evening of March 4th.

Her speech will be inspirational as she calls for unity in the party and defeat of the republicans.

She will not be offered the Vice Presidency.

tz.2221105

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 02/22/2008
- TomSutpen I'm a Fan of TomSutpen 3 fans permalink

I hope all that is true. I'd like to think she'll exit this thing with some dignity (even the fake kind) and all this punk bravado from her campaign is just whistling in the dark.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 02/22/2008
- in4success I'm a Fan of in4success 45 fans permalink

you're in lala land --- copy and paste this into an email to yourself:

SHE'S GOING TO FIGHT FOR THE FL AND MI DELEGATES -- WITHOUT A NEW PRIMARY -- SHE WILL FIGHT FOR A CONVENTION INTERVENTION AND IF THAT DOES NOT WORK THE SUPREME COURT WILL STEP IN AND GIVE HER THE FUCKING NOMINATION.

unless "we the people" say NO MORE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 02/23/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

You could be right. I think she will bow out if she doesn't win.

As for being Veep?

Never, never, never.

He attacked her viciously.

Even though a lot of people are cynics? There are some lines crossed.

He crossed them.

And she wouldn't be interested in even the presidency position if it meant she had to work with him as HER VP.

So no, but she wouldn't want that position ever.

He'll just have to lose the solid Hillary supporters.

I do think a good many will vote for McCain. Those are people who do not think he's at all prepared to be Commander In Chief.

I think a good many will simply not bother to vote. Those are people who are completely turned off by the American Idol feel of this year.

And I think a few of us will vote for Nader. Hey, I like his Green Policy.

But I know, for sure, I'm not voting for Obama.

Ever.

I was a Clinton Democrat. I am thoroughly offended.

AND, I'm done with this party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 02/23/2008
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Hillary and Obama sing a Duet !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBrkwGiKTwY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 02/22/2008

surprised that this is not making the internet rounds:
( will cause a lot of votes to go over to republican side or cause a lot of dems to not vote at all)

Just really really sad what this election has come to. Not important issues -- just one side against another, even as a joke, this will offend so many women and voters.

http://www.racialicious.com/2007/06/21/bros-before-hos/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 02/22/2008

T-Shirt Hell...

The same T-Shirt company that had a "I (plane) NY" and countless other offensive t-shirts. I won't link to them from here but you can probably figure out how to find them.

This t-shirt is one of the tamer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 02/22/2008
- GLU I'm a Fan of GLU permalink

I used to really love their shirts, but the novelty t-shirt thing is pretty played out now...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 02/22/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Which is why you're trying to spread it around the web?

Troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 02/22/2008
- BeeClone I'm a Fan of BeeClone 2 fans permalink
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Why? the Tee shirt wasn't put out by the Clinton or Obama campains so why would it stop and Dem from voting or is it what you would like to happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 02/22/2008
- finally I'm a Fan of finally 2 fans permalink

LOOK AT THE LATEST FROM TEXAS! Obama leading Clinton 57 to 43 http://www.decisionanalyst.com/publ_data/2008/obama.dai

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 02/22/2008
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It seems to be to excessive a leap from other recent polls to be full trusted.

Never heard of Decisionanalyst.com.....


It a membership polling site that claims to pay for you opinions.

Not a random sample...


Nope, this is not a valid way of taking an election poll. Maybe good for products or entertainment, but not for elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 02/22/2008
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Sounds like someone is making their last ditch defense. This must have been what it was like when the Germans started arming schoolchildren and sending them out against the Allies marching through Germany in 1945.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 02/22/2008
- truthyguy I'm a Fan of truthyguy 42 fans permalink

Nothing succeeds like success.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 02/22/2008
- mcnairbo I'm a Fan of mcnairbo 9 fans permalink

DRUDGINGTON POST EXCLUSIVE: "Obama Is Soooo Dreamy."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 02/22/2008
- strifeknot I'm a Fan of strifeknot 14 fans permalink

Clintonistas are sooooooo petulant and whiny, especially when Mrs. Empty Pantsuit is losing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 02/22/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

I would never vote for a group that is dominated by snotty people.

Your post is nothing more than a snotgram.

If you were in the minority? I'd ignore it. Every candidate has it's mentally ill hanger-oners who have access to a computer.

Alas, this is the tenor of this election about hope.

The big headlines are over. The reality of the nastiness of his supporters is now obvious. And a whole lotta people are fed up already.

I think personally that he'll be the president. Our disgust isn't as big about this as it is about Republicans.

But I honestly wouldn't hope for much that a 4-year stint by the unprepared tan guy.

And then, if anyone in the next election, offers a glimmer of a way out?

Watch the rush away from this nonsense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 02/23/2008

this is really off-topic but before I go home I need an answer.

Does anyone know if dinosaurs were alive before the ice age or did they come after that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 02/22/2008
- horacekent I'm a Fan of horacekent 10 fans permalink

Not exactly sure.

I think they came after McCain, though.

~HK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 02/22/2008

That was mean - but really funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 02/22/2008
- jadez I'm a Fan of jadez 3 fans permalink

a bit off topic but notice how mccains wife is always near his side?

distraction fron his age.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 02/22/2008

Before. Way way way way way before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 02/22/2008

So it's looks like I've tried to be smart and only made myself look foolish again.

At least I'm not running for president so it really don't matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 02/22/2008
- ulnu I'm a Fan of ulnu permalink

When is America gonna learn that ALL BUBBLES burst. We have gone thru the IT bubble and the Real Estate Bubble with thousands of Foreclosures and now we see the Political BUBBLE.

Obama is gonna leave you holding the busted BAG.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 02/22/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

Might I suggest that the "busted BAG" is better than what we have now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 02/22/2008
- Kirby I'm a Fan of Kirby 21 fans permalink

As a life-long Republican who voted for that lying son of a bitch the first time, I honestly believe that Obama is the best candidate and has the greatest possibility for success. There's no way he could ever screw up this country the way George Bush has. Cleaning up the mess is going to take some conserable time. What a shame that we have not impeached those bastards.

Bubble, bubble, toil and big trouble are all of what we've had served up to us by George W. Bush. He's changed the presidency to idiocy.
He will leave us next January as Idiodent Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 02/22/2008
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Does no one know how to use a hyphen (-) anymore?

I am so tired of reading a story and seeing this: _,when anybody with a basic understanding of English knows it should be -.

What the hell?Can somebody please start teaching when to not use the shift key?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 02/22/2008
- illinoisan I'm a Fan of illinoisan 24 fans permalink
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It may be the fact that file names and URLs can't have hyphens that's making them obsolete.

Another problem is the lack of a dash on modern keyboards. The best that can be done is the double-hyphen: --

Don't even get me started on the lack of ability to use italics here on Huffpo comments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 02/22/2008

I find using an asterisk works well. You *might* want to try it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 02/22/2008

m

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 02/22/2008
- naturesway I'm a Fan of naturesway 12 fans permalink

Time for 90's nostalgia.... Remember those great years?The balanced budget and the surplus in the US Treasury...The same years when my business was growing like mad for all those years... I was hiring and expanding. Those years when we had relative peace and the Camp David talks looked like they might break new ground. Those years when I heard my First Lady speak out with a strong voice that it is time to face the facts on civil rights and women's rights, for freedom for and from religion, and those years when we enjoyed a welcoming handshake from most of the world. I will never forget those years. We loved the Clintons.
.Bill left office with a 70 % approval of the American people. That's uniting , baby. I want that for our children, for our vets, for all of us. Hillary will be our next POTUS. If you agree go help Hillary help us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 02/22/2008
- bdd I'm a Fan of bdd permalink
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But there was NAFTA and its ugly head began to rear itself during the bush years who warmly embraced this. TIME FOR REAL CHANGE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 02/22/2008

And the stock market tech bubble that blew up and the real estate downturn and the endless grand juries and the direct lies about Monica and the direct lies about Jones and the direct lies about Katharine and the direct lies about Gennifer and the lost billing records and the travelgate lies and the Lincoln bedroom scandal and the Buddhist temple scandal and the health care flop and Web Hubbell federal prisoner and Mrs. Hubbell federal prisoner and vince foster dead and constant bickering and gridlock and Republicans sweeping to power in Congress and thirty children burned alive in Waco Texas because Reno couldn't wait to flex her steroid muscles and on and on.

It was NOT tea and roses. Better tan Bush, yes. A great time in our history...bullshit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 02/22/2008
- horacekent I'm a Fan of horacekent 10 fans permalink

I remember when Hillary was the front-runner.

~HK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 02/22/2008

Bill had REALLY good timing - he presided over the top of the business cycle, and a housing and tech bubble.


And yet wages for most people stagnated or fell, as they have been doing since 1972. If you can't take an economic climate like that and put a chicken in every pot, so to speak, I think it's time to revisit your legacy.



That being said, I like Hillary Clinton more than her husband. I'll support whoever the nominee is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 02/22/2008
- TomSutpen I'm a Fan of TomSutpen 3 fans permalink

Could you point me to one even slightly memorable utterance the former First Lady made on the subject of anything during those 8 years?

No, I think the reason people like you pine for those days is because we had a President then who asked nothing of us; who made everyone feel good without having to be good; who depoliticized us and left us to dwell in a collective narcissism no one shared more than he. He was an almost perfect byproduct of the Reagan-Bush years: maintaining a corrupt and murderous foreign and domestic policy . . . and doing it for The Children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 02/22/2008
- jadez I'm a Fan of jadez 3 fans permalink

bill left behind the destruction of the congress.
dont you wonder why guys like Kerry and Kennedy went with Obama?

bill Clinton was despised by elected democrats by the time he left office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 02/22/2008
- John I'm a Fan of John 19 fans permalink

We should abolish this superdelegate BS. Who in the hell do these people think they are! This is one of the many reasons so many Americans are disillusioned with our so-called democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 02/22/2008
- LarBear I'm a Fan of LarBear 30 fans permalink
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I'm from Washington State... 5 times as many voted in our Primary, as in the Caucus...
Primary Results: Clinton = 294,465 = 45.77 % Obama = 326,943 = 50.81 %
Caucus Results: Clinton Delegates 9992 = 31.2% Obama 21,629 = 67.51%
So in the Primary Obama got about a 5% lead by the Voters... Yet Obama got more than 50% more Delegates...
Conclusion... Regular Caucus Delegates do NOT actually represent Voting Democrats... So the B.S. that "Super Delegates" should NOT overturn the will of the Voters would make good Fertilizer... The Caucuses already did NOT actually mirror the Voters... The main cry is from those who want their Candidate to win... PERIOD, EXCLAMATION...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 02/22/2008
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Washington state has some of the lowest voter turn outs in the country as far as presidential votes. There really isn't anything "progressive" about Washington state. They may think so...but really...41% turn out in 2000 and not much better in 2004?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 02/22/2008
- BitJam I'm a Fan of BitJam 15 fans permalink

The trend seems crystal clear: Clinton always does much better when the votes don't count (Washington primary, Michigan, Florida) but falls flat when the chips are down.

This is a good indication that the Clinton campaign is inept. More evidence for this can be found here:

Inside the Clinton Shake-Up

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200802u/patti-solis-doyle

Good thing we got a chance to discover these problems before the general election. The process is working.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 02/22/2008

Could it be that Obama knows how to run a sane and efficient organization and Hillary is a very weak leader even her own campaign organization?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 02/22/2008

Why do you not get the fact that votes mean nothing when the people casting them *know* that they're not going to count for anything?



Would you schlep through snow and rain and god knows what-else kind of weather to vote if it didn't count? Would you even bother taking any time out of a busy day?


The caucuses are when everyone who wanted to have a say had a say. If I was in Washington state, I'd vote in THEM, and wouldn't bother with the meaningless primaries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 02/22/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Who's we?

Are you a Democrat? If not, perhaps you could go offer advise to your own party?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 02/22/2008
- cblcar I'm a Fan of cblcar 6 fans permalink

Obama is a Lieberman supporter, proving he will suck up to anyone just like any other politician if it gets him ahead.

http://boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/03/31/obama_rallies_state_democrats_throws_support_behind_lieberman/

So stop bashing Hillary. Your guy is no better, just slicker at hiding his true self.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 02/22/2008
- HeyFella I'm a Fan of HeyFella 3 fans permalink

Lame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 02/22/2008
- BeeClone I'm a Fan of BeeClone 2 fans permalink
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Nice try. Don't give up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 02/22/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Got anything else? Perhaps now you would like to whine about how mean everybody is to Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 02/22/2008

About 75% of the ostensible pro-Hillary posts for the past month have taken the form of arguing against the invisible guy in the room who just keeps bashing her. Stop bashing Hillary, invisible man!


The remaining 20% are compelling arguments about how Obama is the third arm of Satan himself, or threats to vote for McCain.


That's sort of a microcosm of her whole campaign. She's never given anyone a reason to vote for her. It's a testiment towards the good will of the Democratic Party towards her that she's even lasted this long.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 02/22/2008
- XYZ I'm a Fan of XYZ 2 fans permalink

If nobody ever agreed in congress nothing would ever get done.

It's funny how silly the words sound for those that don't know how congress works.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 02/23/2008
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