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AP Survey: Superdelegates Jump to Obama

STEPHEN OHLEMACHER | February 22, 2008 05:27 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — The Democratic superdelegates are starting to follow the voters _ straight to Barack Obama.

In just the past two weeks, more than two dozen of them have climbed aboard his presidential campaign, according to a survey by The Associated Press. At the same time, Hillary Rodham Clinton's are beginning to jump ship, abandoning her for Obama or deciding they now are undecided.

The result: He's narrowing her once-commanding lead among these "superdelegates," the Democratic office holders and party officials who automatically attend the national convention and can vote for whomever they choose.

As Obama has reeled off 11 straight primary victories, some of the superdelegates are having second _ or third _ thoughts about their public commitments.

Take John Perez, a Californian who first endorsed John Edwards and then backed Clinton. Now, he says, he is undecided.

"Given where the race is at right now, I think it's very important for us to play a role around bringing the party together around the candidate that people have chosen, as opposed to advocating for our own choice," he said in an interview.

Clinton still leads among superdelegates _ 241 to 181, according to the AP survey. But her total is down two in the past two weeks, while Obama's is up 25. Since the primaries started, at least three Clinton superdelegates have switched to Obama, including Rep. David Scott of Georgia, who changed his endorsement after Obama won 80 percent of the primary vote in Scott's district. At least two other Clinton backers have switched to undecided.

None of Obama's have publicly strayed, according to the AP tally.

There are nearly 800 Democratic superdelegates, making them an important force in a nomination race as close as this one. Both campaigns are furiously lobbying them.

"Holy buckets!" exclaimed Audra Ostergard of Nebraska. "Michelle Obama and I are playing phone tag."

Billi Gosh, a Vermont superdelegate who backs Clinton, got a phone call from the candidate herself this week.

"As superdelegates, we have the opportunity to change our mind, so she's just connecting with me," Gosh said. "I couldn't believe she was able to fit in calls like that to her incredibly busy schedule."

In Utah, two Clinton superdelegates said they continue to support the New York senator _ for now.

"We'll see what happens," said Karen Hale. Likewise, fellow superdelegate Helen Langan said, "We'll see."

Other supporters are more steadfast.

"She's still in the race, isn't she? So I'm still supporting her," said Belinda Biafore, a superdelegate from West Virginia.

Obama has piled up the most victories in primaries and caucuses, giving him the overall lead in delegates, 1,362 to 1,266.5. Clinton's half delegate came from the global primary sponsored by the Democrats Abroad.

It will take 2,025 delegates to secure the nomination at this summer's national convention in Denver. If Clinton and Obama continue to split delegates in elections, neither will reach the mark without support from the superdelegates.

That has the campaigns fighting over the proper role for superdelegates, who can support any candidate they want. Obama argues it would be unfair for them to go against the outcome of the primaries and caucuses.

"I think it is important, given how hard Senator Clinton and I have been working, that these primaries and caucuses count for something," Obama said during Thursday night's debate in Austin, Texas.

Clinton argues that superdelegates should exercise independent judgment.

"These are the rules that are followed, and you know, I think that it will sort itself out," she said during the debate. "We will have a nominee, and we will have a unified Democratic Party, and we will go on to victory in November."

Behind the scenes, things can get sticky.

David Cicilline, the mayor of Providence, R.I., indicated this week that his support for Clinton might be wavering after _ he contended _ members of her campaign urged him to cave to the demands of a local firefighters union ahead of her weekend appearance there. The firefighters, in a long-running contract dispute with Cicilline, have said they would disrupt any Clinton event the mayor attends. A Clinton spokeswoman said the campaign would never interfere in the mayor's city decisions.

Obama has been helped by recent endorsements from several labor unions, including the Teamsters on Wednesday.

"He's our guy," said Sonny Nardi, an Ohio superdelegate and the president of Teamsters Local 416 in Cleveland.

The Democratic Party has named about 720 of its 795 superdelegates. The remainder will be chosen at state party conventions in the spring. AP reporters have interviewed 95 percent of the named delegates, with the most recent round of interviews taking place this week.

The superdelegates make up about a fifth of the overall delegates. As Democratic senators, both Clinton and Obama are superdelegates.

So is Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory, which is one reason his phone rings often.

He is a black mayor, and Obama has been winning about 90 percent of black votes. His state has a March 4 primary with 141 delegates at stake. The Democratic governor, Ted Strickland, is stumping hard for Clinton _ and perhaps a spot on the national ticket.

A phone call from former President Clinton interrupted Mallory's dinner on a recent Saturday.

"I continue to get calls from mayors, congresspeople, governors, urging me one way or another," said Mallory, who is still mulling his decision. "The celebrities will be next. I guess Oprah will call me."

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Associated Press Writers Ace Stryker in Salt Lake City, Laura Kurtzman in Sacramento, Tom Breen in Charleston, W.Va., John Curran in Montpelier, Vt., Joe Milicia in Cleveland, Dan Sewell in Cincinnati and Anna Jo Bratton in Omaha contributed to this report.

(This version UPDATES delegate count; Democrats Abroad issued corrected allocation)


 
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Every story about the Super Delegates only points to more evidence that they need to be pressured to support the candidate that emerges as the winner after all of the primaries/caucuses and then dismantled for future elections. Right now many are jumping ship from Hillary to Obama not because they suddenly think that he would be the best president or even because winning the presidential election is that important to them (if it was about winning the presidential election, they would all have waited until they had had a chance to judge the ability of the candidates to connect with the American public before pledging their delegates).

No, they are jumping ship because to do otherwise would be to jeopardize their own political or even personal standing (imagine John Lewis icon of the Civil Rights movement casting a decisive vote for Hillary, destroying the chances of a possible real "first Black President" and what that would mean for his legacy). In other words, they are operating on the basis of calculated self-interest. What the Clinton camp would have you believe is that when they were with her they were thinking of the public good, but now that they are fleeing it's because of their fear of personal consequences. However, doesn't it make more sense to assume that these folks have always operated on the basis of self-interested calculations? It's jsut that the calculations have been altered by the new political reality.

What I would argue is that we are better off putting our nomination in the hands of the voters rather than a bunch of self-interested party hacks. It is simply high time to abolish the Super Delegate system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 02/24/2008

My youngest grandson asked me what it was like "back in them Olden Days, you know before BC." He said he means before the Bush-Clinton years when blatant arrogance got to be so much in vogue and anyone disagreeing with our betters could be treated badly and stuff like that, screamed at even. Hillary is scaring her friends away.

Well, that is better than blowing them away, Hill.

This is only a dramatisation, of course, but perhaps you get my plagiarism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 02/23/2008

Quick question- Why must we follow the "rules" and not seat the delegates from Fla. and Mich .and forget the "rules" regarding the super delegates. That is Obamas suggestion. He wants to discard the votes from Fla & Mich and have a caucus(which favors him because it disenfranchises many many voters and opens the whole procedure to voter fraud by allowing anyone to come in and register without showing any proof of name or residence)I can almost understand Mich, because he took his name off the ballot (voluntarily) but his name was on the ballot in Florida ,and his TV ads were shown. People absolutely were able to recognize his name. Come on Obama... you are getting a free ride from the media Don't spoil it by insisting that we follow only the rules you like. You can't have it both ways. (or maybe you can)

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 02/23/2008

Obama is not calling for the Super Delegates to be stripped of their right to vote and neither are his supporters. He is simply using his public platform to influence the direction that those delegates would go. Making public calls for them to support the winner from the caucuses and primaries (because he assumes that it will be him) is no different than the private arm twisting that both candidates are doing in a flurry of daily calls (and with a whole portion of their staffs directed to the operation).

Obama is just pointing out that each of the Super Delegates should understand that there will be consequences if they oppose the will of the voters. In short, if the Democratic party elites disregard the voters in choosing the nominee, they may find that they will have to figure out how to secure a victory in November without the help/votes of many of those same voters. That is not the same as trying to change the rules or abolish the Super Delegates (although they should be abolished after this election cycle).

As for Michigan and Florida, the voters there are getting hosed. But the hosing already took place with the complicity of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama (and all of the other Democratic candidates) who both assented to the Democratic National Party's decision not to count Michigan and Florida. Of course the candidates went along with this screwed up decision back when they were all trying to curry favor with voters in Iowa and New Hampshire. Now that those voters are in the rear view mirror and her campaign is far behind, Hillary is going back on the promises that she made.

The improtant thing to acknowledge is that many voters in Michigan and Florida likely stayed home because their party told them that their votes wouldn't count. So if we are going to reenfranchise all of the Democratic voters in both states, then the Democratic party should pony up the money to run new primaries (not caucuses) in both places before the convention. When the Democrats argue that they can't do it becasue of the costs, that is laugable given all of the money that has been pumped into this election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 02/24/2008

Obama is not calling for the Super Delegates to be stripped of their right to vote and neither are his supporters. He is simply using his public platform to influence the direction that those delegates would go. Making public calls for them to support the winner from the caucuses and primaries (because he assumes that it will be him) is no different than the private arm twisting that both candidates are doing in a flurry of daily calls (and with a whole portion of their staffs directed to the operation).

Obama is just pointing out that each of the Super Delegates should understand that there will be consequences if they oppose the will of the voters. In short, if the Democratic party elites disregard the voters in choosing the nominee, they may find that they will have to figure out how to secure a victory in November without the help/votes of many of those same voters. That is not the same as trying to change the rules or abolish the Super Delegates (although they should be abolished after this election cycle).

As for Michigan and Florida, the voters there are getting hosed. But the hosing already took place with the complicity of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama (and all of the other Democratic candidates) who both assented to the Democratic National Party's decision not to count Michigan and Florida. Of course the candidates went along with this screwed up decision back when they were all trying to curry favor with voters in Iowa and New Hampshire. Now that those voters are in the rear view mirror and her campaign is far behind, Hillary is going back on the promises that she made.

The improtant thing to acknowledge is that many voters in Michigan and Florida likely stayed home because their party told them that their votes wouldn't count. So if we are going to reenfranchise all of the Democratic voters in both states, then the Democratic party should pony up the money to run new primaries (not caucuses) in both places before the convention. When the Democrats argue that they can't do it becasue of the costs, that is laugable given all of the money that has been pumped into this election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 02/24/2008

Quick question- Why must we follow the "rules" and not seat the delegates from Fla. and Mich .and forget the "rules" regarding the super delegates. That is Obamas suggestion. He wants to discard the votes from Fla & Mich and have a caucus(which favors him because it disenfranchises many many voters and opens the whole procedure to voter fraud by allowing anyone to come in and register without showing any proof of name or residence)I can almost understand Mich, because he took his name off the ballot (voluntarily) but his name was on the ballot in Florida ,and his TV ads were shown. People absolutely were able to recognize his name. Come on Obama... you are getting a free ride from the media Don't spoil it by insisting that we follow only the rules you like. You can't have it both ways. (or maybe you can)

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 02/23/2008


Obama the tele-evangelist is taking over the Democratic Party. He has gathered up anti-war pacifists and our American youth. The sports and entertainment worlds have merged with the religious left and left us VOTERS out of our RIGHT to vote.

I call FOUL. Obama's delegate count from caucus states should not count.

We are patriotic Democrats.

This is some kind of religious take-over of our own Democratic Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 02/23/2008

What a punk! Obama send's out Harry and Louise fliers in Ohil. He rips off Republican attack ad and put's it out as an attack on Clinton.

Obama distorts her plan! What a lying punk! This whole notion that this guy is only positive and for a new kind of politics has just been blown out of the water! Anyone who even tries to dispute is nothing more than a kool-aide drunk loyalist.

Obama is a fraud!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 02/23/2008

Hillary flip flops. In the SAME debate. Here's the proof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWb2wBnT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 02/23/2008

Have you guys seen the polls in TX??
check this out!
http://www.electoral-vote.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 02/23/2008
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I'm glad the blogs and some of the press raised a stink about superdelegates. I think it has motivated them to start thinking about the good of the democratic party and the ramifications of their decisions rather than just thinking of their own benefit.

It always pays to shed light on these things before they get to the critical stage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 02/23/2008

Super delegates are politicians.

They will abaondon a candidate in a heart-beat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 02/23/2008
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Just like you man, huh, Anna?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 02/24/2008


Suoerdelegates should take heed of a new trend --- more and more DEMS indicating they will NOT vote Obama if he is nominee. It's emerging all over the net.

My husband and I have noticed it among our Democratic friends.

They're tired of being accused by Obama supporters of being racist when they say they're unsure about him.

An AA guy (albeit he's very young) who my husband works with pressed him to state who he supports. And when my husband said Hillary, the young guy said, "I figured you would vote for the white one."

I've had a slightly different experience. Since many people know I'm extremely liberal, they assumed I was for Obama. When I corrected them and said I was a Hillary support er, there was a sigh of relief and all said they are afraid to admit they support Hillary because Obama supporters tend to get angry when they do.

Many democrats I talk to are getting tired of Obama's speeches, too. They're staring to get stale.

We Hillary supporters are getting tired of being manipulated into voting for the "First Black President."

This could be a reason he sweeps caucuses where people are pressured to stand in Obama's corner or else be accused of racism for supporting Hillary.

Word is goping around -- a lot of Dems will either vote McCain or stay home in November if Obama is the nominee.


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 02/23/2008

Interesting.

Here's my take. I know I'm a Clinton Democat.

That means.......never going to vote for that creep, Obama.

But I figure he has us balanced off with the crazy Independents who think he's the new religion.

It won't be a problem for Democrats for a few years.

And then, they'll realize.....

We mattered.

And we really were offended.

And we really did change parties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 02/23/2008

You need to stop co-vaginating with Hillary and start a Women's Party. You got over 50% already...but be careful, some of them read.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 02/23/2008
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You sure do hate those negroes, dont you Anna?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 02/24/2008
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Instead of throwing your vote away on McCain, why don't you vote for Ron Paul? I hear he hates negroes just like you.

Go for your own personal gold, Anna!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 02/24/2008

"Word is goping around -- a lot of Dems will either vote McCain or stay home in November if Obama is the nominee. "

Word is GOPing around? Your Freudian slip is showing.
Honestly, you stupid and clumsy Repukes are SOOO Effing transparent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 02/23/2008

It seems interesting to say, dems wont vote for "the other candidate" if the one they support dosent win. Honestly, I have my personal preference, but will vote for either candidate the Democtatic Party nominates.

As for this specific post, you really think that John McCain is better for this country right now than Obama? It could be true, that some think that, I just dont understand how anyone who would take the time and energy to go to a Democratic primary or caucus, and make sure thier voice were heard, would be a sore loser and give the presidency to the Republicans.

Yes, some supporters of both candidates are stupid, and uninformed........and beligerant. It is weak and petty of you though to hold that against the country, just so you can say " I told you so"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 02/23/2008
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The supers would destroy the party by reversing the votes of the people and they know it very well. Most of them are old enough to remember Chicago 1968 and saw how many young people tuned out and turned off to politics after that giant fiasco.

The whole world will be watching to see if we are still a democracy and praying that we will begin the much needed process of deBushification. Populism is the cure for the cancer of corporatism!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 02/23/2008

We've just posted a pro-obama music video we created out of my song "Si Se Puede" please watch it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ky8Hvq-F0U
back to the subject: I think it should be up to the common voter not the supper delegates, but I'm sure glad even the supers are crossing over just in case it gets to that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 02/23/2008

Well done! Moving and inspirational.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 02/23/2008

Obama Bought & Paid For His Super Delegates.

Obama gave 3-times as many donations to superdelegates than Hillary did.

My question -- where did he get all that money dating back to 2005? Rezko?

"Obama's political action committee has doled out more than $698,200 to superdelegates since 2005, the study found, and of the 82 who had announced their support for Obama, 35 had received donations for election cycles in 2006 and 2008 totaling $232,200. Since 2005 Obama has given 52 of the undecided superdelegates a total of at least $363,900

Clinton's political action committee has distributed about $205,500 to superdelegates, and only 13 of the 109 who had announced for her have received money, totaling about $95,000. Since 2005 Clinton has given a total of $88,000 to 15 of the undecided superdelegates.

http://www.capitaleye.org/inside.asp?ID=336

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 02/23/2008
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Deluded already, and so early in the morning?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 02/23/2008
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RE: "Obama Bought & Paid For His Super Delegates." - Well, I guess that demonstrates the man truly understands the American political process. Chalk up another one for Obama. Let's just hope they stay bought and don't get greedy starting a bidding war as they are, after all, professionals at political prostitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 02/23/2008

McCain-Feingold be damned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 02/23/2008


No, it demonstrates he's not the holy-moley candidate -- he has no problems greasing the palms of people who can help him.

He greased plams in Illinois, too.

Face it -- Your Obama is like any other power-at-any-cost politian.

At least be honest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 02/23/2008

The superdelegate system is really a bizzarre invention. "Let's practice democracy, support 1 person, 1 vote UNLESS the results dont suit us; in which case these superdelegates will step in and ensure we get the results we want". What sort of democratic process is that?

These superdelegates are partially elected, and partially SELECTED based on position and title in the Democratic party. It is a sort of pat-on-the-back, prize for being a party insider. But if they can somehow act "independently" (VERY subjective term) regardless of the people's wishes that's just a farce.

The superdelegates keep saying they have one vote 'like every other delegate'. But in the primary each regular delegate represents thousands or tens of thousands of votes, so that argument that all delegates carry equal weight is flawed. The term SUPER-delgate is therefore, very apt.

It's problematic to change the fundamental role of Superdelegates now, but the DNC can and should instruct Superdelegates to ratify the people's vote so the leading nomineee receives the required number of delegates under the rules. That is more democratic than voting their "conscience". As we know "conscience" in this context is a misnomer. It's just another way of saying "vote for the establishment, the person I like more, the person who promises me kickbacks behind closed doors.

We ought to get rid of superdelegates after this election. The comcept of some people being more equal than others is not real democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 02/23/2008
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So I gather that getting fucked (admittedly quite, quite, quite rarely) in the White House makes Hillary capable of being President? Living in her husband's shadow, taking credit for all HIS work during his term is the same as personal experience? My partner has worked for Chevron 35 years; do I get to join the board of Chevron?

By that tortured bit of logic, Obama should be competing against Monica Lewinsky, not Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 02/23/2008

No, I'm sure you most likely are worthless.

Don't contribute much.

ARe you blonde?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 02/23/2008
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Why?

Did you notice a similarity?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 02/23/2008

Thanks for your comment Felicity. Now go back and play with your toy dolls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 02/23/2008
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