Bush Lobbies Again for Surveillance Law

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BEN FELLER | February 25, 2008 05:46 PM EST | AP

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President Bush holds up a copy of the Quiet Revolution Report, produced by the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, Monday, Feb. 25, 2008, as he addressed the National Governors Association in the State Dining Room of the White House in Washington. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — President Bush on Monday lobbied again for an intelligence law allowing government eavesdropping on phone calls and e-mails, as the tone of the dispute between the White House and Congress over terrorist surveillance grew increasingly sharp.

"To put it bluntly, if the enemy is calling into America, we really need to know what they're saying, and we need to know what they're thinking, and we need to know who they're talking to," Bush said at the start of his annual meeting with the nation's governors at the White House.

"This is a different kind of struggle than we've ever faced before. It's essential that we understand the mentality of these killers," Bush said.

The law in question targets foreign terrorist threats and allows eavesdropping on communications involving people in the U.S., so long as those people are not the intended focus or target of the surveillance. The latest version of the legislation expired on Feb. 16, and the rules reverted to those outlined in the 30-year-old Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Bush and Congress are at odds over whether to give legal immunity to companies that in the past helped the government spy on customers without court warrants.

Bush wants the House to act on legislation the Senate has passed. That bill provides retroactive protection for telecommunications companies that wiretapped U.S. phone and computer lines at the government's request after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, without court permission.

The House version does not provide such immunity.

"Our government told them that their participation was necessary," Bush said. "And it was, and it still is, and that what we had asked them to do was legal. And now they're getting sued for billions of dollars. And it's not fair."

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The president's pitch was the latest installment in a long and increasingly sharply-worded debate between Bush and congressional Democrats.

Democrats, in an op-ed piece Monday in The Washington Post, accused Bush of resorting to "scare tactics and political games."

"It is clear that he and his Republican allies, desperate to distract attention from the economy and other policy failures, are trying to use this issue to scare the American people into believing that congressional Democrats have left America vulnerable to terrorist attack," said the article.

The piece was signed by Democratic Sens. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee; Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee; Democratic Reps. Silvestre Reyes, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee; and John Conyers, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

White House press secretary Dana Perino responded to their op-ed with her own statement. Perino said that Bush is not using scare tactics, but rather repeating the concerns of the intelligence community about the risks to the nation. "Unless this threat is taken more seriously in Congress, the ability to obtain the intelligence we need will be at risk, and with it our national security," Perino said.

Later, speaking to reporters, Perino said the Democrats' use of the phrase "scare tactics" must "be like one of their favorite words _ it must poll very well, because they use it almost every time. What we have done is state facts."

The Justice Department and Office of National Intelligence said Saturday that telecommunication companies are now complying with existing surveillance warrants. The agencies also said that new surveillance activities under existing warrants will resume "for now," but that the delay "impaired our ability to cover foreign intelligence targets, which resulted in missed intelligence information."

Bush says flatly that telecommunications companies won't help the government if they don't have protection from lawsuits, and that he will not compromise with Democrats on that point.

WASHINGTON — President Bush on Monday lobbied again for an intelligence law allowing government eavesdropping on phone calls and e-mails, as the tone of the dispute between the White House and C...
WASHINGTON — President Bush on Monday lobbied again for an intelligence law allowing government eavesdropping on phone calls and e-mails, as the tone of the dispute between the White House and C...
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George, let me make this easy for you. If you want to eavesdrop and wire tap all you have to do is hire someone (we all know by now that you're too stupid to figure it out yourself) to fill out a warrant application, take it over to the judge and get a warrant approved. It's a piece a cake buddy. You've been in office for seven years now so we need to to stop acting like a retard and get with the program OK. You're making our country look bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 02/25/2008
- wolf58 I'm a Fan of wolf58 35 fans permalink

You mean have Bin Bush follow a law. Its a nice idea but remember, this clown hsa signed over 730 plus signing statements he thinks he is above the law. His acts are that of a traitor and not a very smart one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 02/25/2008
- incontempt I'm a Fan of incontempt 2 fans permalink

Hurry up already, The ELECTION is coming, they must protect us from the democrats.­..what a loser..is there really an educated person who can't see through this BULLSHIT Bushies scheme here??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 02/25/2008
- Indyfromny I'm a Fan of Indyfromny 17 fans permalink
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YES!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!
Their called Republicans. They dont care about the Constitution, they care about their Tribe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 02/25/2008
- incontempt I'm a Fan of incontempt 2 fans permalink

Touche....­but are they educated?really? gotcha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 02/25/2008
- KRANKY I'm a Fan of KRANKY 14 fans permalink

"Their called Republicans. They dont care about the Constitution, they care about their Tribe."

A call to arms, for all brave enough to kill the worst amongst us.

A smart society kills the killers before they take over.
We now live in a fascist ghetto. We have to be smart, because the kangaroo, Peoples Court, is on the side of the fascist killers.

Modern Republicans are Fascists: i.e. killers and murderers.

Be smart, but do the right thing: kill the killers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 02/25/2008
- naturesway I'm a Fan of naturesway 12 fans permalink

How many thousands get taken in by phone scams, pyramid schemes and bankers in Nigeria? Plenty. Plenty of innocents get taken in very deeply by this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 02/25/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 305 fans permalink
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Bush is a Pathetic Liar.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 02/25/2008
- Indyfromny I'm a Fan of Indyfromny 17 fans permalink
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He would be more pathetic if there were'nt so many Republican sheep following him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 02/25/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 265 fans permalink

Any terrorist with half a brain is already you encryption. This is purely to get dirt on political targets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 02/25/2008
- AxelDC I'm a Fan of AxelDC 81 fans permalink
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We pay thousands of dollars every year in taxes for the government to protect us, not violate us.

Bush has never made a coherent argument for why he needs more and more power to dig deeper and deeper into our privacy. He just invokes some phantom menace and says, "If I can't read your email, then the terrorists win!"

How about if you can read my email, the authoritarians win? America is becoming a scarier place because of Bush, and it's not because of terrorists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 02/25/2008
- ibsteve2u I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u 137 fans permalink
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Perino said "(...) What we have done is state facts."

There ya go, Perino - your people's problem in a nutshell: WMDs and Hussein's supposedly active support of Al Qaeda are some more of your "facts".

If ya'll said the sun comes up in the East I'd stay up all night just to be sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 02/25/2008
- KRANKY I'm a Fan of KRANKY 14 fans permalink

When the authorities are compromised, when the law is mute, when the Constitution has been effectively nullified.­..
it is time for Patriots and Resistance.
Time to re-usurp power from the Repuke/Fascists.

No Country for Dead Men.
The time to not be sorry is now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 02/25/2008
- Indyfromny I'm a Fan of Indyfromny 17 fans permalink
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W, I need to punch you in the fucking face for stripping my civil rights.
Fuck off and die.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 02/25/2008
- UncleJimbo I'm a Fan of UncleJimbo 183 fans permalink
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Wow Indy you just threatened the POTUS and I made a simple joke about putting Ralph Nader in a Corvair without a seat-belt and pushing into the Grand Canyon and got scrubbed!? Good for you! BTW I'd not say anything if I saw you punch Bush!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 02/25/2008
- Indyfromny I'm a Fan of Indyfromny 17 fans permalink
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LOL. Sometimes my emotions get ahead of myself.
But Habeas Corpus is my right. A right handed down to me by my grandfather who faught in WWII. This is personal to me.

Anyway, Slante,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 02/25/2008

The ability of our enemies to operate covertly through cell phone technology - not to mention computer technology - has exploded, and finally came to fruition on 9-11. It was building in the '90s, our government should have been aware of it, but it was not. (I don't think a republican president would have been much better, if at all, than Clinton was.) To suggest that we do not need the capability to use effective countermeasures is naive. It is deadly. It is not anti-American, it is anti survival. If you don't understand that, you're a propagandized fool. Period.

You want to step back and let people come in here to kill you, fine. Don't demand that I let them come here and kill me, too.

The democrats in congress are playing to the radical leftist base, people who are activist and loud and get the headlines. People whose default position is that Bush wants to eavesdrop on people so that he can be a better fascist, and corporations can steal more money, and whatever the hell else goes on in your brains, are running the show.

Abuses of the eavesdropping activities should be aggressively pursued, and the violators thrown in jail. To always be against a republican idea, no matter what, is as stupid as it was for white people to think that all minorities were bad just because of their skin color.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 02/25/2008
- bushmocker I'm a Fan of bushmocker 7 fans permalink

What's wrong with following the law?What's wrong with doing the wiretap,then getting approval?What's wrong with keeping records of who was wiretapped?You spout the same crap as Bush,who gets on the media and lies to the American people.Thi­s has nothing to do with parties,just the law.If he doesn't like the law,why doesn't he get it changed legally?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 02/25/2008
- AxelDC I'm a Fan of AxelDC 81 fans permalink
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If Bush cared about saving American lives, he'd triple the police force in Detroit and insist that people walking the streets only blocks from the White House aren't mugged at gun point.

He doesn't give a damn about American lives (see: Iraq). He only cares about his own power and personal enrichment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 02/25/2008
- ceu I'm a Fan of ceu 6 fans permalink

No one is saying that we don't need the capability to use effective countermeasures! We're saying do it legally, in accordence with the law and the Constitution. Getting warrants, as the law requires is decidedly NOT anti-American since we are, after all, a nation of laws, as was pointed out repeatedly during the Clinton impeachment!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 02/25/2008

The fact is what the Pres is doing is unconsitutional and if we let politicans chip away at our rights we won't have any rights. Thus, what Bush is doing is COMPLETELY unamerican because it is completely repugnant to the most American document in this country. Last time I checked the government can still eavesdrop but with a WARRANT. Meaning that they can only tap accounts where there is probable cause. Bush wants us to believe that this is the ONLY way he can tap our phones but he like always is a fear mongering liar!! I am proud to be a TRUE American who opposes the aquisition of consitutional rights by the facist government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 02/25/2008
- incontempt I'm a Fan of incontempt 2 fans permalink

Yeah...bec­ause republicans have had so many good ideas lately.

Georgie wants to blanket sweep any info he desires, fine..purs­ue terrorists and not Americans in general(all), then he should follow the law,and you should be scared stupid if you think america should not be run by laws.

AS I am soldier, a patriot, and an American, it is my Truly sworn duty to protect my land and my constitution from all enemies, FOREIGN and DOMESTIC,.­.. live outside the law at your own peril,it will not be welcome in these United States.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 02/25/2008

I have never seen any President this set on enslaving the American populace. Not a word about gas and food prices ... just attacks on OUR Constitution constantly. Not a word about jobs leaving, the building of HUGE debt to Communist China for an illegal invasion. Nothing about no bid contracts ... on and on.

All we hear from Bushco is 'we need to suspend more of your rights in order to protect you'. And this is what McCain is backing???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 02/25/2008
- Shaddup I'm a Fan of Shaddup 11 fans permalink
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The bush mantra: Ignore it and it will go away. This is what years of living as a dry drunk has done to him. If he could drink he would've gone on a bender and just forgotten to deal with it all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 02/25/2008
- carex I'm a Fan of carex 7 fans permalink

Bush is an idiot. Nothing he can say will make anyone trust him or his administrations heinous methods, from evesdropping to torture this guy has been a contstitutional nightmare.

You have the FISA Courts Bonehead and 72 hours to get to a judge. You have everything you need to provide protection for our country while maintaining constitutional safeguards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 02/25/2008
- lungfish I'm a Fan of lungfish 106 fans permalink
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This is one reason to keep these guys on a tight leash...
How Dick Cheney Used the NSA for Domestic Spying Pre-9/11

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=9561

And since we are on the subject of emails, where are all the WH emails that are missing???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 02/25/2008

just another reason to turn an Abomination into
an OBAMA-NATION.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 02/25/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

Great strategy! Since Bin Laden hates us for our "freedom" taking that freedom away will make him love us. Brilliant, Bush!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 02/25/2008

We need to commit felonies in order to maintain control. You peons just don't know how to govern.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 02/25/2008
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