Bush Lobbies Again for Surveillance Law

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BEN FELLER | February 25, 2008 05:46 PM EST | AP

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President Bush holds up a copy of the Quiet Revolution Report, produced by the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, Monday, Feb. 25, 2008, as he addressed the National Governors Association in the State Dining Room of the White House in Washington. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — President Bush on Monday lobbied again for an intelligence law allowing government eavesdropping on phone calls and e-mails, as the tone of the dispute between the White House and Congress over terrorist surveillance grew increasingly sharp.

"To put it bluntly, if the enemy is calling into America, we really need to know what they're saying, and we need to know what they're thinking, and we need to know who they're talking to," Bush said at the start of his annual meeting with the nation's governors at the White House.

"This is a different kind of struggle than we've ever faced before. It's essential that we understand the mentality of these killers," Bush said.

The law in question targets foreign terrorist threats and allows eavesdropping on communications involving people in the U.S., so long as those people are not the intended focus or target of the surveillance. The latest version of the legislation expired on Feb. 16, and the rules reverted to those outlined in the 30-year-old Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Bush and Congress are at odds over whether to give legal immunity to companies that in the past helped the government spy on customers without court warrants.

Bush wants the House to act on legislation the Senate has passed. That bill provides retroactive protection for telecommunications companies that wiretapped U.S. phone and computer lines at the government's request after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, without court permission.

The House version does not provide such immunity.

"Our government told them that their participation was necessary," Bush said. "And it was, and it still is, and that what we had asked them to do was legal. And now they're getting sued for billions of dollars. And it's not fair."

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The president's pitch was the latest installment in a long and increasingly sharply-worded debate between Bush and congressional Democrats.

Democrats, in an op-ed piece Monday in The Washington Post, accused Bush of resorting to "scare tactics and political games."

"It is clear that he and his Republican allies, desperate to distract attention from the economy and other policy failures, are trying to use this issue to scare the American people into believing that congressional Democrats have left America vulnerable to terrorist attack," said the article.

The piece was signed by Democratic Sens. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee; Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee; Democratic Reps. Silvestre Reyes, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee; and John Conyers, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

White House press secretary Dana Perino responded to their op-ed with her own statement. Perino said that Bush is not using scare tactics, but rather repeating the concerns of the intelligence community about the risks to the nation. "Unless this threat is taken more seriously in Congress, the ability to obtain the intelligence we need will be at risk, and with it our national security," Perino said.

Later, speaking to reporters, Perino said the Democrats' use of the phrase "scare tactics" must "be like one of their favorite words _ it must poll very well, because they use it almost every time. What we have done is state facts."

The Justice Department and Office of National Intelligence said Saturday that telecommunication companies are now complying with existing surveillance warrants. The agencies also said that new surveillance activities under existing warrants will resume "for now," but that the delay "impaired our ability to cover foreign intelligence targets, which resulted in missed intelligence information."

Bush says flatly that telecommunications companies won't help the government if they don't have protection from lawsuits, and that he will not compromise with Democrats on that point.

WASHINGTON — President Bush on Monday lobbied again for an intelligence law allowing government eavesdropping on phone calls and e-mails, as the tone of the dispute between the White House and C...
WASHINGTON — President Bush on Monday lobbied again for an intelligence law allowing government eavesdropping on phone calls and e-mails, as the tone of the dispute between the White House and C...
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- fcsakes I'm a Fan of fcsakes 92 fans permalink
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Read this you s.o.b. - it's called The Constitution and it has this goofy little addition called The Bill of Rights. Accordingly, you have gone ahead and used your rights up. Now shove it.

Is there some way to mute this asshole until January '09 or should we all just capitulate right now. Bow (rhymes with now), scrape, send cash.

Before Bush I didn't know it was possible to hate someone you'd never met.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 02/25/2008
- KRANKY I'm a Fan of KRANKY 14 fans permalink

It is called 'resistance', or sabotage.

You know the individuals in your neighborhood that are enemies of democracy.

These are the negatives of society that needs determine be negated.
The FAT, greedy, repukes that take, take, TAKE; and never give back....
These are the jerks that must be exited from existance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 02/25/2008

FISA's good enough. if Dick Clarke wasn't elbowed out in 2000, and the memo Rice referred to as the 'vaguely' titled 'Bin Laden determined to attack inside the US' were received competently, al Qaeda would likely have been found out, and 9-11 would have been just another sunny day. a new edition of 'Against All Enemies' ought to be released, better yet, 'Against All Enemies for Dummies', George Dubya Bush-White House edition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 02/25/2008
- aznurse I'm a Fan of aznurse 62 fans permalink

I agree! We do need to read e-mail and listen to phone calls,but every time the congress tries to get the records from the White house they refuse to turn them over.
Oh, you mean on american citizens? them nevermind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 02/25/2008
- Phideaux I'm a Fan of Phideaux 6 fans permalink
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George: You need to drink a gallon of Super-Glue and STFU!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 02/25/2008
- Bobleblah1 I'm a Fan of Bobleblah1 21 fans permalink

Yeah!
Bush needs to eavesdrop on communications
so that he can turn you into one of his newest political prisoners, just like Don Seigelman.

How could any sane and sober adult trust Bush with any additional authority?
Is there anyone in their right mind who thinks Bush will be anything other than the lawless individual he has ALWAYS been.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 02/25/2008
- AcitizenNJ I'm a Fan of AcitizenNJ 4 fans permalink

as far as this guy hitting on the mood of our country goes, our man in the white house couldn't hit water if he feel out of a boat. he's just sad, as the rest of them are that have no balls to stand up for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 02/25/2008
- Ginzaman I'm a Fan of Ginzaman 12 fans permalink

And we also have the right to torture and kill anyone who gets in our way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 02/25/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

Ben Franklin: "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 02/25/2008
- FranklinS I'm a Fan of FranklinS 13 fans permalink
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Please!!! Put impeachment on the table.
First Pelosi, then Reid, and THEN Cheney, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 02/25/2008
- ornery I'm a Fan of ornery 7 fans permalink

Have any of his goons ever cited one example

ONE SINGLE SOLITARY EXAMPLE

of how the mass violations of 4th Amendment rights have netted any terrorist?

I don't think so.

Not in 7 years of warrenterr.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 02/25/2008
- AcitizenNJ I'm a Fan of AcitizenNJ 4 fans permalink

this asshole has invaded our lives for far to long, when is someone in wahington going to stand up and start the fight. i never thought i'd think it but the guy needs a ride out of town on a rail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 02/25/2008
- serialcoma I'm a Fan of serialcoma 123 fans permalink
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I'm thinking a rope and a Pennsylvania lamp post are what this asshole needs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 02/25/2008
- rextrek I'm a Fan of rextrek 36 fans permalink
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..and when Bush FINDS those thousands of missing White House emails......maybe,he can ask....just ask...doesn't mean, he's gonna get it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 02/25/2008
- TLV I'm a Fan of TLV 123 fans permalink

That's exactly what I was thinking. Unfortunately in Bush's case he is not like Nixon in that Tricky Dick actually did some of the dirty deeds and was proud to admit it. I'm sure Bush has enough mentally ill minions running around there - like Scooter Libby - willing to take the blame for everything he's ever participated in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 02/25/2008
- rextrek I'm a Fan of rextrek 36 fans permalink
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Can someone please show this asshole...the video of HIM saying "They Need a warrent for Wiretaps"....Is it 2009 yet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 02/25/2008
- rextrek I'm a Fan of rextrek 36 fans permalink
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Can someone please show this asshole...the video of HIM saying "They Need a warrent for Wiretaps"....Is it 2009 yet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 02/25/2008

exactly ... and this from the same bunch that revealed during wartime the identity of a CIA agent and her coporate cover, and then we learn years later that they'd informed the Turkish government to beware of the B&J, identifying it as a CIA cover ... these slimeballs need to be prosecuted and sent to jail once a Dem becomes president

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 02/25/2008
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