John McCain Says He Could Lose Over Iraq War

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LIZ SIDOTI | February 25, 2008 10:44 PM EST | AP

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Republican presidential hopeful, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., speaks to reporters after a town hall meeting in Cleveland, Ohio, Monday, Feb. 25, 2008. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)

ROCKY RIVER, Ohio — John McCain said Monday that to win the White House he must convince a war-weary country that U.S. policy in Iraq is succeeding. If he can't, "then I lose. I lose," the Republican said.

He quickly backed off that remark.

"Let me not put it that stark," the likely GOP nominee told reporters on his campaign bus. "Let me just put it this way: Americans will judge my candidacy first and foremost on how they believe I can lead the country both from our economy and for national security. Obviously, Iraq will play a role in their judgment of my ability to handle national security."

"If I may, I'd like to retract 'I'll lose.' But I don't think there's any doubt that how they judge Iraq will have a direct relation to their judgment of me, my support of the surge," McCain added. "Clearly, I am tied to it to a large degree."

The five-year-old Iraq conflict already is emerging as a fault line in the general election, with the Arizona senator calling for the U.S. military to continue its mission while his Democratic opponents urge speedy withdrawal.

While most Republicans still back the war, many independents and Democrats don't. That presents a significant challenge for McCain and an opportunity for either Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton.

McCain acknowledged the war will be "a significant factor in how the American people judge my candidacy."

The lead Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, McCain has consistently backed the war although he's long criticized the way it was waged after the Saddam Hussein's fall. He was an original proponent of President Bush's troop-increase strategy, having called for more forces on the ground for several years. Last spring, McCain went all in on the war by embracing it as Bush took heat for boosting troop levels to quell violence.

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"We can fail in Iraq," McCain said Monday in an Associated Press interview. But, he added: "I see a clear path to success in Iraq." He defined that as fewer casualties and Iraqi troops taking over security to allow U.S. forces to return home. "All of us want out of Iraq, the question is how do we want out of Iraq," he added.

McCain has signaled that he plans to make Iraq and national security a major part of his general election campaign. Daily, he accuses both Obama and Clinton as wanting to "wave the white flag of surrender." Democrats, for their part, are arguing that McCain's candidacy is simply a continuation of Bush's "failed" policies. They have seized on a previous McCain remark in which he suggested that U.S. troop presence _ at some level _ could extend 100 years or more.

At a town hall-style meeting in suburban Cleveland, McCain accused Democrats of distorting that comment and sought to explain. "The war will be over soon, the war for all intents and purposes, although the insurgency will go on for years and years and years. But it will be handled by the Iraqis, not by us," he said. Like after other wars, he said, the United States then will decide "what kind of security arrangement we want to have with the Iraqis."

While McCain attracts voters across the political spectrum, he is sure to face resistance this fall for his Iraq position in Ohio and other swing states that have seen high numbers of residents die in Iraq.

Over the next eight months, McCain said he would take the same approach when discussing Iraq that he's taken all year as he won primary after primary on his way to securing the GOP nomination.

Speaking to reporters on his bus, he said he would "tell them that I understand their frustration and their sorrow over the sacrifice that has been made and then I try to explain to them what's at stake and what's going on there now. And that's the best I can do."

McCain said his candidacy will be successful "if I can convince the American people, the people of Ohio, that this is succeeding, that the casualties will continue down, although there are occasional spikes."

"So I have to, and I believe can, make an argument that the surge is succeeding, that we will end this war and have the Iraqis take over those responsibilities as we more and more assume support roles and then withdraw," he added.

McCain recalled reading a USA Today poll that he said showed most people believe the troop-increase strategy is succeeding, and said: "Now, still the majority of Americans want out of Iraq. And, I understand that, too. So do I."

The survey actually found that 43 percent _ not a majority _ said the troop increase is "making the situation there better," up from 22 percent in July.

Asked why he asked to retract the "I lose" remark, McCain said much else could impact his chances.

"We've got many months to go before the general election," he said. "But is Iraq an important part of the judgment that people will make of me, of course."

ROCKY RIVER, Ohio — John McCain said Monday that to win the White House he must convince a war-weary country that U.S. policy in Iraq is succeeding. If he can't, "then I lose. I lose," the Repub...
ROCKY RIVER, Ohio — John McCain said Monday that to win the White House he must convince a war-weary country that U.S. policy in Iraq is succeeding. If he can't, "then I lose. I lose," the Repub...
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- gotalife I'm a Fan of gotalife 22 fans permalink

So, McSurge and the gop are all on Iraq. The Pentagon will keep 140,000 after surge troops. McSurge said the war will be over soon. Rove said Iraq will not be an issue in this election.

What does that tell you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 02/25/2008

Why doesn't McCain have the Vietnamese release a transcript of his "conversations" with his captors during his captivity?

Let's see if McCain is a great American "War Hero?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 02/25/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

Obama on leadership in "Foreign Affairs." I reccomend reading the entire seven-page article which gives a lot of depth to his ideas. Or you can just complain he gives speeches:

"Ultimately, no foreign policy can succeed unless the American people understand it and feel they have a stake in its success -- unless they trust that their government hears their concerns as well. We will not be able to increase foreign aid if we fail to invest in security and opportunity for our own people. We cannot negotiate trade agreements to help spur development in poor countries so long as we provide no meaningful help to working Americans burdened by the dislocations of a global economy.

We cannot reduce our dependence on foreign oil or defeat global warming unless Americans are willing to innovate and conserve. We cannot expect Americans to support placing our men and women in harm's way if we cannot show that we will use force wisely and judiciously. But if the next president can restore the American people's trust -- if they know that he or she is acting with their best interests at heart, with prudence and wisdom and some measure of humility -- then I believe the American people will be eager to see America lead again."

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070701faessay86401-p60/barack-obama/renewing-american-leadership.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 02/25/2008

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JohnKemp bathered:

"We've been in Japan for sixty years, Korea for fifty, Germany & France for 60; hasn't worked out too badly."

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Because we had Liberals in charge of those wars.

If Chimpy were in charge of WWII, we'd still be getting taunting videos from Hitler.


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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 02/25/2008
- JohnKemp I'm a Fan of JohnKemp 26 fans permalink

FDR, Truman & Eisenhower were liberals?

Really?

Would that be the same FDR who imprisoned the Japanese Americans? The same Truman whose first act of international warfare was to bomb Hiroshima & Nagasaki? The same Eisenhower who successfully completed D-Day?

But then again, this is a problem with modern-day liberalism which professes JFK to be one of its heroes.

JFK, who plotted to overthrow Castro, who invaded Vietnam, whose own brother ilegally wiretapped MLK's private phones & who lowered various tax rates is now somehow a Camelot liberal?

Revisionism; a bulwark of modern day liberalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 02/25/2008
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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Poor WOW-boy. Still in denial that his beloved Rethugs have done anything wrong. For the (sic) kempy, everything is the fault of the Democrats.

Which is why the WORST President got re-elected - because morons like WOW-boy have no idea what is wrong with the world. But they sure are quick to blame everything on the Democrats, and ignore the FAILURES of Bu$hCo and blind fools like himself that love their corrupt asses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 02/25/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 162 fans permalink

FDR created the New Deal which helped get us out of the Depression. He created social security, the TVA, Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., the Securities and Exchange Commission which regulates publicly traded companies, and unemployment insurance among other programs. He put many to work in the WPA.

Truman founded the United Nations (which conservatives love to hate) and was responsible for the Marshal Plan to rebuild Europe after WWII. He created NATO (and did not offend allies like Bush and Rumsfield.) He established the Truman Doctrine with the idea of containing communism and not militarily confronting communist nations (as Bush likely would have done.)

Dwight Eisenhower was a Republican. He oversaw the ceasefire of the Korean War. He was, of course, Supreme Allied Commander during WWII.

JFK said the Bay of Pigs operation was one of his greatest mistakes and he took complete responsibility. After that fiasco, he always listened to military advisers with greater skepticism . They had guaranteed its success. He was very moderate and cautious during the Cuban Missile Crisis and certainly not a war hawk.

JohnKemp, you are either a complete historical revisionist, a fool, have overdosed on Fox News (which makes one dumber) or some strange combination of the above. Probably you are just a fool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 02/27/2008
- LaFeminazi I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi 236 fans permalink
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Now Obama is a dead fire certainty to be the next President.

Can we ask him some questions?

What is his motivation?

What makes him believe he can govern the US?

What direct experience does he have in management?

Or can't I ask those just yet?

Do I have to wait until Nov 09?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 02/25/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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All good questions that should and will be answered.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 02/25/2008
- ZHarris I'm a Fan of ZHarris 48 fans permalink
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hmmmm... Does managing a campaign count?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 02/25/2008
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I find it interesting that people want "change" and are tried of Washington politics, but then want someone with vast Washington experience to bring it.

Seems a bit odd to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 02/25/2008
- LaFeminazi I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi 236 fans permalink
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Um No.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 02/25/2008

Asking Obama questions means you have doubt and therefore are not a true believer. You must come around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 02/25/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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If you wait until 09, I think it will be over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 02/25/2008

The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream

by Barack Obama

412 Reviews: 4.3 out of 5 stars

http://www.amazon.com/Audacity-Hope-Thoughts-Reclaiming-American/dp/0307237699

I highly recommend it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 02/25/2008
- Bobby I'm a Fan of Bobby 15 fans permalink

Not COULD....WILL lose. Why? Listen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y395Tftgz0E

And we thought Dumbya was delusional.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 02/25/2008

OMG, Bobby, scary video. Anyone even thinking about voting for McCain needs to see that video.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 02/25/2008
- Bobby I'm a Fan of Bobby 15 fans permalink

Indeed. Pass it on please. Especially to any Repub friends you have. I have. And almost all of them say the same thing you just did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 02/25/2008
- Coyote2 I'm a Fan of Coyote2 85 fans permalink
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Did you know that the price of wheat has TRIPLED in the last year?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 02/25/2008
- Dragon5616 I'm a Fan of Dragon5616 16 fans permalink

Did you know the Braves won 14 division championships in a row from 1991-2005 but only one World Series?

Wrong thread Coyote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 02/25/2008
- Bobby I'm a Fan of Bobby 15 fans permalink

Do you gas prices have MORE than doubled under Dumbya Bu$h? Also, look at the profits of the war profiteers. Oh yeah, what's his family business again? Oil and war profiteering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 02/25/2008
- Bobby I'm a Fan of Bobby 15 fans permalink

Do you know*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 02/25/2008

Not COULD lose, John...WILL lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 02/25/2008
- MizLiz I'm a Fan of MizLiz 60 fans permalink
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Men....fer crissakes, they ALWAYS think in terms of "winning" and "losing". Mine's bigger than yours, etc.etc.

Guess they never heard about folding a bad hand and walking away from the table, before you've spent the rent money and junior's college education.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 02/25/2008

McCain is a one trick pony. If we are going to start another war or two, or three then you should vote for McCain. But, if you want diplomacy to rule, the economy to strengthen, and to leave the world a better place than Obama is your choice.

Simple as that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 02/25/2008

No, Mr. MyCane. You WILL lose due to your position on the war. So much for being in touch with the masses.
Just keep those photo ops with Bush 41 and his lovely wife, Barbara. Didn't they do a heckuva job raising those kids!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 02/25/2008

Being tortured, far from making him more qualified, may have made McCain less qualified. His judgment, especially regarding war, may be permanently scarred, warped if you will, by his Vietnam history. This might explain the divergence between his many moderate positions (for a Republican) and his stay-in-Iraq-bomb-Iran rhetoric. He's also famous for his hot temper. PTSD anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 02/25/2008
- CindyKay I'm a Fan of CindyKay 17 fans permalink
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Three Words come to Mind when I think of McInsane.
Damaged , Unstable & Dangerous!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 02/25/2008
- Chuckwheat I'm a Fan of Chuckwheat 10 fans permalink
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No shit, Smiley!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 02/25/2008
- bija I'm a Fan of bija 5 fans permalink

Duh! You think? I can't understand how anyone can run on a platform to stay in Iraq and thinks he has a chance!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 02/25/2008

that picture on mcane on the front page makes me giggle

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 02/25/2008
- dwillisno1 I'm a Fan of dwillisno1 59 fans permalink
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Looks like my crazy aunt standing in her garden with her army surplus sun hat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 02/25/2008
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McCain needs to go back to Baghdad, go outside the Green Zone and take another afternoon stroll through the local market.

But this time, he should forgo the flak jacket, the 1,000 troops and the 8 Apache Helicopters that were protecting him the last time.

Maybe then he would have an argument for Iraq being a safer place.

Aloha.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 02/25/2008
- baghdadjoe I'm a Fan of baghdadjoe 37 fans permalink

HILARIOUS: John McBomb, the "Anti-Lobbyist", has a powerful GOP lobbyist doing his business DIRECTLY from the "Straight Talk Express" bus:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/top_mccain_adviser_says_he_doe.php

McBomb seems to be completely unable to tell the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 02/25/2008
- gotalife I'm a Fan of gotalife 22 fans permalink

Okay, the gop are betting everything on Iraq.

Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 02/25/2008

Why? Just follow the money trail for the funding to Halliburton to KBR, Locheed Martin, et. al. Do ya think kickbacks don't happen?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 02/25/2008

They found WMD up McCain's arse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 02/25/2008
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