Half Of All Teens Refuse To Buy CDs

Half Of All Teens Refuse To Buy CDs

Los Angeles Times   |  Michelle Quinn   |   February 26, 2008 05:01 PM


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Nearly half of all teenagers bought no compact discs in 2007, accelerating the music industry's painful transition from CDs to digital downloads, according to a report released today.

One big beneficiary: Apple Inc. Its iTunes music store, which sells only digital downloads, jumped ahead of Best Buy Co. to become the No. 2 U.S. music seller. Apple trailed only Wal-Mart Stores Inc., which mostly sells CDs.

The music industry has grappled with how to replace its rapidly disappearing CD sales with digital downloads. The report by research firm NPD Group offered a window into how quickly the change was happening and who was leading it.

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- blastocyst See Profile I'm a Fan of blastocyst permalink

I know that I still appreciate the physical part of the media. Something about the heft of it. The liner notes. The jewel case. The satisfaction of ownership.
But the boxes of those I have thus far prove so cumbersome. Guess I'm a dinosaur conflicted...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 02/29/2008
- mckinley See Profile I'm a Fan of mckinley permalink

But who are the biggest advocates for public libraries? .
Writers..
Why, when, at least in the US, writers LOSE money when people borrow their books from the library?.
Maybe this tells us who the real Artists are..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 AM on 02/29/2008
- VivaZapata See Profile I'm a Fan of VivaZapata permalink

just as a footnote to lintlass' comment: the thinking of the music industry corporate heads is so out of touch that instead of charging less for a product in not-so-great demand, they violate high school economics axioms and charge more. dodo heads going the way of the dodo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 02/28/2008
- mrcontinental See Profile I'm a Fan of mrcontinental permalink

At least one revolution is working.

Itunes is da bomb, you get what you want when you want it in the quanity that you want. Let the corporate leeches starve.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 02/27/2008
- vlstrade See Profile I'm a Fan of vlstrade permalink

...and I fail to see how copying something that you never would have bought to begin with is theft. There was no loss of revenue or product. But I understand the law so that's why I don't do it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 02/27/2008
- neuphoria See Profile I'm a Fan of neuphoria permalink

@vistrade: yeah, me too-- i fail to see how taking that diamond bracelet i never would have bought anyway was considered theft.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 02/28/2008
- vlstrade See Profile I'm a Fan of vlstrade permalink

I've purchased one CD retail in my life. It was The Beastie Boys - Check Your Head when I was 15. I recently bought about 5 discs from Amazon used, for like 2 buck each. Why would I ever want a jewel case and a CD? Then I just have to rip it to get it onto my computer anyways. I hear all the music I want on Sirius, my Ipod and Pandora.com. If it can be listened to or seen, it can be copied. Fact of life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 02/27/2008
- KCFreedom See Profile I'm a Fan of KCFreedom permalink

Let's see. The average price of a new current music CD is around $17. The average wage for a teenager is probably around $6 per hour, minus income tax. So a teenager has to invest 4 hours of work to buy a single CD. Probably most of a typical fast-food shift.

There's the math...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 02/27/2008
- Democrab See Profile I'm a Fan of Democrab permalink

Yes the days of Del Shannon selling 20,000 copies a day of "Runaway" are gone.

It's an end to Corporate control over the DJs and rack-jobbers too. Now anyone can get on the internet via CD Baby and others.

People can discover their own favorites, without having some indy promoter shoving the biggest payola paying artist down our throats.

Bully for the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 02/27/2008
- neuphoria See Profile I'm a Fan of neuphoria permalink

so tired of the record-companies-are-the-devil argument. yes, cds were overpriced, but they enabled niche music (say, for example, Peter Gabriel's Real World label, or punk, or electronic, or left-handed zither music) to make money on smaller per-unit sales

the real problem is: people are stealing music. and they are walking out not just with a record or two, but the whole store.

anybody here actually talked personally to teenagers? ask them how much music they've bought recently. then ask how much they've downloaded. only 3% of songs on an iPod are purchased from iTunes (22 songs out of 1000)... and iTunes is something like 90% of the digital sales market... you get the idea.

worse, teens are growing up with the belief that music should be free... (but won't argue that, say, health-care should be free.) people should understand that music has real-world value and that by buying music, they will enable more music to be made. (duh.)

the equally tired argument then comes up from people saying "they get my money anyway, I bought the band t-shirt..." to justify their theft. what they are really saying is that the merchandise (keychain, doll) has more significance in their lives than the music... and of course, the next step is you'll get free music on your phone... ("free" being, watch 100,000+ ads and let us collect and sell intimate data about you)

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http://www.myspace.com/shinjukuzulu

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 02/27/2008
- VivaZapata See Profile I'm a Fan of VivaZapata permalink

you may be sick of music industry bashing, but the truth is that most recording artists are gipped out of their money anyway. because of this, they are encouraged to write their own songs, most of which are awful, so they can receive some form of remuneration. this lowers the quality of what we hear. there is no incentive to seek out good, solid material. all of this is attributable to the greediness and, paradoxically, wastefulness within the industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 02/27/2008
- neuphoria See Profile I'm a Fan of neuphoria permalink

er, so you're saying: record labels rip off aritst>therefore artist decides to write own songs for $ >artist own songs bad > so no one buys artist's music (?)
what i'm saying is: art (music, book, movie, painting) takes effort, and if the final product is deemed desirable to own, it should be bought not stolen.
(Even the too-many-filler songs argument sometimes seems bogus. Say you only get 2 or 3 good songs on an album. Listen to those tracks 20 times each over time, and you've paid $20 bucks for a few hours entertainment. How long does your $2 dollar coffee--or beer-- last you?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 02/27/2008
- VivaZapata See Profile I'm a Fan of VivaZapata permalink

Albums make sense in the classical world of music, but in the song world, it makes much more sense to buy by the song. Most folk music (I mean this in the general sense which would include pop, rap, rock and roll, country, blues, americana, hip hop, etc.) albums contain songs without any connection between them other than that they're all songs. When forced to buy cds, the listener is usually purchasing a few well written songs and lots of filler. There have been occasional attempts by some of the better writers to write specifically for the collection with a single lyrical or musical theme running through the album, usually with mixed results. The notables here are The Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper," Dylan's "John Wesley Harding," "Nashville Skyline," "Blood On The Tracks," and the converted Christian album, Willie Nelson's "Phases and Stages," "The Red Headed Stranger," and "Stardust," and several efforts by Randy Newman and Van Dyke Parks. Given the ephemeral nature of song popularity, it's ironic that the music business is always slow to change the way they do business. The good side to downloading vs buying cds is that there will be less expense for extraneous musical accompaniment and more emphasis on the actual quality of a given song. The regressive music industry will fight to preserve what is already dead instead of thinking outside the box to make themselves relevant, but each year that passes the industry suffers. No one cares about their fate as they seem to always overlook quality over buzz. They'll survive because they'll eventually figure out how to market product, but as they resist changes, they will continue to slide downward for awhile. Bye, bye Miss American Pie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 02/27/2008
- LintLass See Profile I'm a Fan of LintLass permalink

Ah, the music industry has been blaming music copying for their own failures since cassette tapes were there to take the blame...

The real issue is, they've always wanted to promote a few major acts ad nauseam and make as much profit off em as they can, instead of allowing music to be vibrant and interesting....

Say, by not-screwing acts with advance-against-royalities deals... ruthless capitalism and the arts don't always go together.

Especially as the control of the physical 'presses' gets less important, the industry really needs to step back, stop making musicians' personal peccadilloes and dramas center stage (I get sick of hearing about a lot of musicians before I've even heard or identified their music.... it's not even news, anyway) ...and, I think, use some of that big money to get people enthused about *music itself* again.

The real problem is fewer and fewer companies owning more and more of the media, too... it gets inbred, sanitized, and *boring:* the quality suffers cause most of the artists aren't getting the support to put *out* quality, ...how many years did it seem half the bands out there were trying to sound like Korn?

You'd think times like these would have inspired some *great songs,* unfortunately, the big media companies are part and parcel of the same general maladies.

I'm not a big consumer, myself, these days: frankly, CD's are expensive:probably maybe one new one from a major label every year or two seems worth getting, ...before they really chill-factored the music downloads thing: with the radio having gotten really boring, especially, free downloads weren't taking money out of the industry's pockets, they were a means of getting me interested enough in some bands to actually get out and buy some CDs... making sales that otherwise just weren't going to happen.

I think it's a mistake for the industry to try and treat every copy of every song as property to protect: even trying to intimidate CD buyers out of putting copies of what they bought on their MP3 players and computers, ...then wonder why people aren't buying em.

If they want to make more money, they have to change their thinking: and focus on getting people *excited about music, again.*






    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 02/27/2008
- VivaZapata See Profile I'm a Fan of VivaZapata permalink

just as a footnote to lintlass' comment: the thinking of the music industry corporate heads is so out of touch that instead of charging less for a product in not-so-great demand, they violate high school economics axioms and charge more. dodo heads going the way of the dodo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 02/28/2008
- OttoMann See Profile I'm a Fan of OttoMann permalink

Some people seem to be misinterpreting the point of this article. It's not that teens won't pay for music -- they're not buying CDs. They'll pay for downloads, though. (It does change the game for musicians, though, in that the format of the LP, the idea of a cohesive group of songs, has reverted back to a singles market, a la the 50s and 60s.) And kids don't fetishize albums they way we used to in decades past; jewel cases and discs are just clutter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 02/27/2008
- VivaZapata See Profile I'm a Fan of VivaZapata permalink

well put, otto man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 02/27/2008
- ObamaEdwards See Profile I'm a Fan of ObamaEdwards permalink

Better technology, smaller footprint. The kids are getting smart. Industry will follow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 02/27/2008
- InformedMisery See Profile I'm a Fan of InformedMisery permalink

Quality music will always sell. No one should be surprised that consumers of any age won't shell out $15-$20 on lousy music.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 02/26/2008
- noamjunior See Profile I'm a Fan of noamjunior permalink

I really enjoyed Mark Farina's Live CD and lil' Lois Vega's new one this year- but pop music simply sucks ass today. Why buy an album when you can hear the exact same some for free in a COke commercial?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 02/26/2008
- reigndog See Profile I'm a Fan of reigndog permalink

Download some of this...

http://www.myspace.com/marsarizona

Good for the soul.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 02/27/2008
- jordanbrown See Profile I'm a Fan of jordanbrown permalink

I stopped listening to music years ago until apple allowed me the choice to choose singles. If an album is good it will sell and I will buy it. Now I'm listening to music all the time and enjoying my choices which are in majority singles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 02/26/2008
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