Milbank: Clinton Team Down And Out Of Touch

Milbank: Clinton Team Down And Out Of Touch

Washington Post   |  Dana Milbank   |   February 26, 2008 10:44 AM


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They are in the last throes, if you will.

As Vice President Cheney knows, such predictions can be perilous. Still, there was no mistaking a certain flailing, a lashing-out, as two Clinton advisers sat down for a bacon-and-eggs session yesterday at the St. Regis Hotel.

The Christian Science Monitor had assembled the éminences grises of the Washington press corps -- among them David Broder of The Post, Maureen Dowd of the New York Times and columnist Mark Shields -- for what turned out to be a fascinating tour of an alternate universe.


 
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Correction: True primaries did occur, just not a valid competition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 02/26/2008

Delegatehub, eh?

So how are we to admit the delegates from FLA and MICH when no true primary took place in either. Eerily familiar to the 2000 General Election. Odd that the other side now instigates. Consistency is integrity. But I think we all know that integrity is not in the Clinton repertoire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 02/26/2008

A lanky lawyer from Illinois with just one term of experience in the House of Representatives and no other federal-level legislative or executive experience decided to run for president in 1860, 12 years after he left the House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 02/26/2008

A lanky lawyer from Illinois with just one term of experience in the House of Representatives and no other federal-level legislative or executive experience decided to run for president in 1860, 12 years after he left the House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 02/26/2008

Obama outmaneuvered Clinton. It's as simple as that. Clinton's management style has been outclassed. It's too early to tell just yet but it looks like he beat her. He's a better manager, campaigner and I suspect, the better candidate. Read the story in Portfolio magazine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 02/26/2008

Hillary has problems but Obama has his own, too. I have problems with both of them on their records. Edwards had problems. Only Kucinich had the right policies - single payer health care, get out of Iraq. So on policies there is really little or no difference bewteen Hillary and Obama.

I just hope that Obama is not going to be taken down by the scandal in his own back yard - Rensko. This would be the only strategy that the Republicans have - to allow Obama to be nominated and then to start the trial right before the election. Obama has known this man for 17 years. He seemingly denied that he "even knew the guy" in the debate. Four hours of legal work? BS.

Hillary has voted for the war and supported "free trade" policies. Her advisers are pro-war and pro-deregulation of financial institutions. Now we have stagflation and a banking crisis.

As the war goes wrong and the subprime mess spreads, she needs to do some fancy dancing. She seems to be on the wrong side of every major issue.

We have a banking crisis. She calls it a "housing crisis." The U.S. economy is drowning in debt. However, she proposes that the bankers should be bailed out by having the government underwrite their bad debt will crate hyperinflation.

She needs to deal with stagflation, global warming, peak oil, staggering military and defense spending, negative aspects of free trade, trade imbalances, a falling dollar, massive debt and many, many other problems.

Yet she says that she will be "ready on day one?" She seems to be delusional. Nobody will be "ready" for what the new president will step into.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 02/26/2008

A lanky lawyer from Illinois with just one term of experience in the House of Representatives and no other federal-level legislative or executive experience decided to run for president in 1860, 12 years after he left the House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 02/26/2008
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Repealing the Glass-Steagall act in 1999 contributed to the mortgage crisis. Hillary hasn't even acknowledged that fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 02/27/2008

Wanna see the "Last Throes"? Here's Hillary's "last throes" website:

http://www.delegatehub.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 02/26/2008

From the website:
"The Obama campaign is claiming, without precedent or justification, that automatic delegates (commonly referred to as "super delegates") should switch to Sen. Obama en masse based on arbitrary metrics, with the aim of tilting the delegate balance in his favor. The fact is: no automatic delegate is required to cast a vote on the basis of anything other than his or her best judgment about who is the most qualified to be president.

No need for "arbitrary metrics". The more Hillary campaigns, the more and more obvious it is that Obama "is the most qualified to be president".

OBAMA '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 02/26/2008

Can you imagine if Obama was down in the voter count, down in delegates and had lost 10 contests in a row. The Clintonistas would be screaming for him to step down.

Hillary hath no shame. Do the right thing for the sake of your party and step down. YOU CANNOT WIN...PERIOD

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 02/26/2008
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I read the full article - they definitely seem defensive and trying to re-write history. I wonder at what point reality will set in for them...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 02/26/2008

And the Rats are Starting to Jump off the Sinking SS Hillary Clinton........awshucks I was hoping Barak would visit our State to gather a deligate or two in the Spring but I`ll just have to go to Denver instead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 02/26/2008

Hillary campaign advisers meeting:

Wolfson: WAAAAAAA! WAAAA!!

Ickes: I dunno. I cant remember

Singer: (stamps foot) Did too! Stop it or I'll tell mommy.

Grunwald: Stop it! Mark's being mean to me.

Penn: Am not.

Wolfson: WAAAA! WAAAAA! WAAAA!

Singer: Huh, uh. Am not. I'm gonna tell mommy.

Wolfson: WAAAAA! WAAAAA! WAAAAAAAAA!!!

Penn: Can I have my money now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 02/26/2008

Priceless!

What continues to astound me about the Clinton campaign is the complete lack of dignity. Even if by some miracle she was able to get the Democratic nomination, how many people would want someone who had run this kind of campaign running the country?

And you KNOW that if Obama were the one who had lost ELEVEN straight contests the only thing coming out of these peoples' mouths would be how he should quit the race for the good of the party. What a pathetic pack of schmucks...

OBAMA '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 02/26/2008

"Even Broder, asking about why Clinton had abandoned the North American Free Trade Agreement, was informed by Singer that "elections are about the future."

Cook, the host, got similar treatment when he asked why Clinton hasn't released her tax returns. "When she's the general-election nominee, she'll release the tax returns," Singer said.

After the breakfast, one of the questioners asked Singer whether he could elaborate on the tax-return issue. He dismissed her with more hostility. When the reporter suggested that Singer was being antagonistic, the spokesman explained.

"Sixteen months into this," he said, "I'm just angry."

There you have it from Paul Singer, an acknowledgment that Clinton supported NAFTA but "hopes people will forget it because elections are about the future, not her execrable and indefensible past"... a theory that would also cover her plethora of neo-con votes.

He also doesn't offer any tangible reason why she can't release her tax records. Oh... and he's angry he backed the wrong nag.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 02/26/2008

With the way Hillary's been acting lately, makes one a bit leary of having her in charge of the 'Button' or 'Key' whatever it is now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 02/26/2008

I have to agree...we need a president who at least appears a little more emotionally stable! I mean, what happens if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says something unpleasant to her....is she going to nuke the Middle East and say "shame on you"! Scary thoughts indeed!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 02/26/2008

It is not just the Clinton team that is out of touch. Her voters aren't exactly in touch either as the following analysis cleary shows: "Among the one-third of Texas Democratic primary voters who watched all or most of the debate, Obama leads Clinton by 20 points," said CNN senior political analyst Bill Schneider.
"Among the 42 percent who followed news about the debate, Clinton and Obama are neck and neck. And among the one-quarter of Texas Democrats who paid no attention to the debate, Clinton leads Obama by nearly 20 points.
I made a similar point here. Clinton wins mainly among the uninformed, which is why she loses ground the more people pay attention. Her support is based largely on name recognition and vague associations with the pre-9/11 world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 02/26/2008
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Lighten up folks... Flame each others candidates after you watch this vid...

A little something to break the ice! NOT an Anti Hillary or Anti Obama Vid..

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_accidentally_leaks

Finished? get back to flaming heheh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 02/26/2008

Nice, I like this one as well...

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 02/26/2008
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