In this photo released by the Turkish Military on Wednesday, Feb. 27, 2008, Turkish commandos are seen during an operation at an undisclosed location on the Turkish-Iraqi border, southeastern Turkey. More than 40 military trucks ferried troops toward the Iraqi border on Wednesday after a heavy snowfall slowed down Turkey's ground incursion against Kurdish rebels. F-16 warplanes and helicopters were seen flying over the border town of Cukurca toward Iraq. (AP Photo/Turkish Military, HO)

Turkey Attacks Kurds; US Calls for Halt

BURHANETTIN OZBILICI | February 27, 2008 11:19 AM EST | AP

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CUKURCA, Turkey — Turkish fighter jets, helicopters and hundreds of commandos streamed across the border into northern Iraq Wednesday despite Iraqi and American calls to swiftly end an operation to root out Kurdish insurgents.

U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said before departing for Turkey that he will tell officials there that the six-day assault must not last longer than a week or two.

It was the first time that Gates, who that Turkey must be "mindful of Iraqi sovereignty," put any time limit on the incursion.

Gates also said before leaving India that he will call on Turkey to use economic and political initiatives to address some of the complaints of the Kurds _ who are the majority in Turkey's southeast and neighboring northern Iraq. Iraq has demanded an immediate end to the cross-border operation against the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK.

In Baghdad, Turkish envoy Ahmet Davutoglu, chief foreign policy adviser to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, said the aim of the incursion was "clear and limited" and said no timetable will be set "until the terrorist bases are eliminated."

More than 40 Turkish military trucks ferried hundreds of commandos toward the Iraqi border and F-16 warplanes were seen flying over the border town of Cukurca toward Iraq. Helicopters brought dozens of troops to a base on the outskirts of the town. Some helicopters also headed toward Iraq.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said after meeting Davutoglu that, "We condemn the terrorists and the PKK, but we also condemn the violations of the sovereignty of Iraq at the same time and we have to be very clear on that."

Turkey said its troops had killed 77 Kurdish rebels in overnight clashes that were the most intense of the incursion in northern Iraq. Five soldiers were also killed.

The remote battle sites are inaccessible to the press and casualty reports cannot be independently confirmed.

The total death toll for the rebels since the operation began Feb. 21 reached 230, the military said. Two dozen soldiers and three pro-government village guards also have been killed.

PKK spokesman Ahmad Danas denied the Turkish military's claim that 77 Kurdish rebels had been killed in the overnight clashes, saying the rebels had only lost one fighter since Tuesday night and seven others were wounded. The rebels have said only a few PKK fighters and more than 80 Turkish soldiers have died.

It is the first confirmed Turkish military ground operation in Iraq in about a decade against the rebels, who are fighting for autonomy for southeastern Turkey and have carried out attacks from northern Iraq. The conflict has killed up to 40,000 people since 1984. The U.S. and European Union consider the PKK to be a terrorist group.

The Turkish military said warplanes have hit 225 targets, including anti-aircraft batteries, caves, shelters, training facilities, command and communication centers, while artillery units struck 475 similar targets.

"There are sporadic clashes with terrorists that arrived as reinforcements to the region in two separate areas on the sixth day of the operation," the military said on its Web site.

"There are signs that some high-level names of the organization might still be among terrorist groups in the (combat) zone," it said. In past operations, the military has monitored radio communications of rebels.

Turkey has long suspected the Iraqi Kurd administration in the north of allowing the PKK to operate and ignoring calls for a crackdown on the group. Turkey's military said this week that it had received information that some wounded rebels were being treated in hospitals in northern Iraq.

The Kurdish regional government in northern Iraq denied the allegations.

"We challenge anyone who says that PKK wounded fighters are receiving treatment in our hospitals," spokesman Jamal Abdullah said. "We have nothing to do with PKK fighters and routes to areas where clashes are taking place are closed."

Turkish Kurds protesting the incursion in the eastern town of Dogubayazit threw stones at the local branch of the ruling party as well as the main police station, NTV television showed. Police used tear gas to disperse the crowd, it said.

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Associated Press Writers Selcan Hacaoglu in Ankara, Sameer N. Yacoub in Baghdad and Yahya Barzanji in Dahuk, Iraq contributed to this report.


 
 

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- Marichu See Profile I'm a Fan of Marichu permalink

Once you let that jinn out of the bottle, it will be difficult getting it back in. Turkey knows, not only the limitations of the Iraqi government, but the United States' as well. Iraq barely has a functioning central government, propped up the US government and the military. Can Iraq counter-strike if Turkey doesn"t quickly withdraw its troops? No.
And as for the US, are we willing and able to get into a military confrontation with Turkey? No. Diplomatic discourse is the only viable option left for the US. Turkey on the other hand is in no hurry to leave northern Iraq; if they leave at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 02/27/2008
- AmericanNation See Profile I'm a Fan of AmericanNation permalink

Since the onset of the American invasion of Iraq, Turkey has on a weekly basis asked the United States to bring the Kurds and their terrorist arm the PKK under control. But, the US forces are too thinly spread, losses civillian and military are growing, and the Kurds and the PKK have been operating with impugnity. For all of those who find the Kurds and the PKK so endearing, imagine a minority of immigrants who immigrate to the US then demand the right of statehood, and when they are refused, they turn to daily or weekly terrorist actions to facilitate their demands. America, aside from 9-11 has basically been blessed by having no was on our territory in recent memory but it is essential to canvass our reactions before we judge others: 9-11 (Patriot Act, racist attacks against Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, and any one of Middle Eastern heritage increase dramatically in US, a McCartheysqe ultra-patriotism is expected of all, if you are not with us you are against us and either a collaborator or a coward, we allienated all our allies and later found that they were right), WWII Pearl Harbor (Intern all Japanese Americans based on race alone, drop two nuclear bombs on Japan after it was clear there was no need to do so). Turkey is a secular Islamic state fighting daily to survive the emergence of Islamic extremism, if you get the chance I encourage you to visit, it is a cosmopolitan country where Muslims, Jews, and Christians live, worship, and work together - all they want is for the terrorism and war to stop. They have as much right to defend their constitution and borders as we in the United States do ours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 02/27/2008
- OilWarsDotCom See Profile I'm a Fan of OilWarsDotCom permalink

I ask again 'Are these the same pain in the ass Kurds that were trying to overthrow Saddam in Iraq AND we critized and propagandized the gassing of the Kurds by Iraq. Now it is ok with us for the Turks to kill the same Kurds who annoyed Saddam in Iraq. Turkey has picked the wrong side when it made deals with the likes of bush and his PNAC gang.
You might want to check on the history of the Kurds - Looks like the Turks look at them like whites look at blacks in America."

They have as much right to defend their constitution and borders as we in the United States do ours."

When they crossed their borders they became invadors, just like the USA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 02/27/2008
- OilWarsDotCom See Profile I'm a Fan of OilWarsDotCom permalink

Are these the Kurds that Saddam was killing??? Ya know, Saddam was gassing "his own people." Or are these the same Kurds who were trying to overthrow the Iraqi government? Let's see, it is ok for Turks to kill Kurds, but it was bad for Iraq to kill Kurds........What the F?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 02/27/2008
- amanda85 See Profile I'm a Fan of amanda85 permalink

America is the king of hypocrisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 02/27/2008
- WilliamWallace See Profile I'm a Fan of WilliamWallace permalink

None of these creeps are going to be satisfied until Iraq is one giant grave.

Sickness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 02/27/2008
- OilWarsDotCom See Profile I'm a Fan of OilWarsDotCom permalink

The rest of the story is no one would give a shit if the USA killed all 25 million Iraqi citizens - Then we could go in and slurp all their oil without opposition

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 02/27/2008
- ProWarDem See Profile I'm a Fan of ProWarDem permalink

I only wanted to view the comments to see how quickly somebody blamed the US for this.

I love HuffPo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 02/27/2008
- serialcoma See Profile I'm a Fan of serialcoma permalink

Then you needn't have left another of your typically ridiculous comments...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 02/27/2008
- MajorKong See Profile I'm a Fan of MajorKong permalink

I can't say we caused it, but we are a part of it by the very fact that we occupy Iraq.

This certainly isn't the first time the Turks have pushed into northern Iraq. They did it several times when Saddam was in power.

We're kind of caught in the middle here, since both Turkey and the Iraqi Kurds are allies of ours. The Turks probably think that we're turning a blind eye to the PKK because we need Kurdish cooperation to keep that part of Iraq quiet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 02/27/2008
- dogman44 See Profile I'm a Fan of dogman44 permalink

Who the hell does Gates think he is? The Turks
have just as much right to hunt down and kill
Iraqis as we do! Gates is acting like Iraq is some kind of exclusive members only game preserve where only members are allowed to hunt. Shame on him and his elitist attitude!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 02/27/2008
- 43P04T34 See Profile I'm a Fan of 43P04T34 permalink

The Turks are not invaders - They're Turks! Their invasion of Iraq is an Incursion!

The Kurds are not Kurds, or Iraqis - They're Rebels! They're Insurgents! They're Terrorists! They operate from terrorist bases!

What is WRONG with the people who WRITE these news reports in such a way that they are ALWAYS propaganda?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 02/27/2008
- OilWarsDotCom See Profile I'm a Fan of OilWarsDotCom permalink

Essentially you are saying it was ok for Saddam to kill these "Rebels, insurgents, Terrorists" Funny, the USA made a big deal out of Saddam killing "his own people." What a joke!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 02/27/2008
- iPolitics See Profile I'm a Fan of iPolitics permalink

Thought the Shia-Sunni battle for Iraq was the only problem? Just wait for the Kurds pus for an independent state in Northern Iraq and Western Turkey.

The Neo-cons are begging for civil war. Can't believe so many Dem Senators voted to give authority to these clowns. Then World War 3 once Serbia/Russia goes after Kosovo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 02/27/2008
- OilWarsDotCom See Profile I'm a Fan of OilWarsDotCom permalink

If WW 3 happens that will be the end of the world as we know it - probably a good thing to start over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 02/27/2008
- lodipete See Profile I'm a Fan of lodipete permalink

Why doesn't our beloved MSM have more to say on this? Surely Bush/Cheyney aren't keeping the American people in the dark, are they? I wonder if this has anything to do with the speculators on Wall St. jacking up the price of oil every 10 minutes. Well as Bush would say about this phenomenon: "KACHING".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 02/27/2008
- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

"Then World War 3 once Serbia/Russia goes after Kosovo."

Consider hot coco before sleep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 02/27/2008
- iPolitics See Profile I'm a Fan of iPolitics permalink

It's not like the first two world wars started in the Balkans. Or ethnic cleansing in the 80s and 90s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 02/27/2008
- IngeniousGirl See Profile I'm a Fan of IngeniousGirl permalink

It is a fatal mistake for the United States Bush, Rice, Gates, Marc Grossman, Frum, Perle, Scowcraft and others to play this game. The gaming has been done in years past by passing intelligence over to the Turks. They are using the Kurds in the Northern Iraq as pawns in their game for the oil, and the well-heeled group of elite war mongers is not interested in a referendum as it is intimidating the Kurds to back down on their right to a government which represents them as well as the other groups in Iraq. The problem is well, this is where all the oil is. Our base in Iraq sits there and cooperates with US air base in Turkey in Ankara. The Kurds were intimidated into disavowing the PKK, but the CIA was funding, aiding and using the PKK for its own purposes.
The entire mess is atrocious both foreign policy backroom deals and desk top killers from afar believing they are advancing the cause of apportionment of the peace in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 02/27/2008
- bj See Profile I'm a Fan of bj permalink

Buckley the prick is dead and the comments are closed.
Go figure

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 02/27/2008
- serialcoma See Profile I'm a Fan of serialcoma permalink

Wonder why.. oh right, your post would be one of the possible reasons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 02/27/2008
- OlongapoEd See Profile I'm a Fan of OlongapoEd permalink

The rest of the right has basically ignored Buckley for some years now. He hasn't been relevant to American politics for some times. I no respect whatsoever for him and thought he was a vastly over-rated figure, but there are limits to what I would say at the present time. Nevertheless, I am *not* looking forward to the inevitable praise and smarmy comments about him from people who ought to know better, merely because he just died.

As for the actual topic of this thread, I note the egregious impotence of the Iraqi "government" in this matter. Further, I wonder if the Kurds in general now finally realize that they cannot expect any real help or support from a conservative American government (and perhaps not from *any* American government).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 02/27/2008
- basta See Profile I'm a Fan of basta permalink

I say create a Kurdistan in Northern Iraq and Southern Turkey. Why are we encouraging Kosovo and not the Kurds?

Maybe because the Kurds are not fighting against a pro Soviet socialist government (the Serbs).

It's all about politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 02/27/2008
- jesuswazasocialist See Profile I'm a Fan of jesuswazasocialist permalink

I agree with you, they should give the Kurds there own country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 AM on 02/29/2008
- mina See Profile I'm a Fan of mina permalink

I say give California and Texas to Mexicans and rest of America to Indians. Stop sticking our noses to other countries business.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 02/27/2008
- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

Because punishing Serbia is strategically different from pissing off Turkey, Iran and whatever left of Iraq.

P.S. There's hasn't been "pro-Soviet government" in Serbia for decades. In Fact Soviets went out in the late 80s.

I think your senility is kicking in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 02/27/2008
- PROUDLIBERAL2 See Profile I'm a Fan of PROUDLIBERAL2 permalink

John McCain should have to comment on this since he is so big on saying the surge is working.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 02/27/2008
- Ammobob See Profile I'm a Fan of Ammobob permalink

I guess when we SURGE against the TURKS next, he'll have some talking points, wh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 02/27/2008
- paixa3 See Profile I'm a Fan of paixa3 permalink

Naturally, the USA and the idiot (that means resident) encourage this behavior and totally support it.

If one nation illegally invades another nation, hell, why not encourage everyone to do it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 02/27/2008
- forpeace See Profile I'm a Fan of forpeace permalink

*

US Calls for Halt???????

US gave the Green Light to Turkey to attack Kurds.

This has been US's Foreign Policy for ages, US always hires the Hit Man to do it's Dirty Job, in this case Turkey!

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 02/27/2008
- Ammobob See Profile I'm a Fan of Ammobob permalink

Yes, Gates gives the TURKS two weeks to stop.....I love it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 02/27/2008
- LoRiseAntlers See Profile I'm a Fan of LoRiseAntlers permalink

Once again,we see the Kurds getting shafted.ala Kissinger,Carter,Reagan and Daddy Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 02/27/2008
- paixa3 See Profile I'm a Fan of paixa3 permalink

You are correct. The kurds have been screwed over for centuries !!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 02/27/2008