Matchmaking Vs. Arranged Marriage: What\'s The Difference?

Matchmaking Vs. Arranged Marriage: What's The Difference?

The Huffington Post   |   February 28, 2008 01:20 PM


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Lately we've been wondering, with all the matchmaking in the air -- the explosion of online dating, the resurgence of traditional matchmaking (as seen on Bravo's horrifically amazing new show Millionaire Matchmaker, for example) -- who's to say a revival of arranged marriage is all that far behind?

FOX News interviewed a trend expert who believes that the new way to find a partner could be by returning to the old way:

"Today is the era of the arranged couple who fall into love around the birth of the first child," said Marian Salzman, co-author of "Next Now: Trends for the Future."

"It sounds traditional, but in some ways so much of the future is back to the past, turbo-charged," she said.

Arranged marriages have been part of many cultures for thousands of years, primarily born out of the desire and/or need for a financial, political or property-based partnership. As America expanded multi-culturally, this custom filtered through as certain ethnic groups sought to preserve cultural and class traditions.

But, contrary to the "old" arranged marriage, in which children are forbidden from choosing their own partners, the modern arranged marriage is not about being forced into federation. It's about relying on the matchmaking mastery of Mom and Dad.

And if arranged marriage is a family affair, then could this new dating site that Tango just featured represent a closing of the gap between online dating and arranged marriage?


Enter the dating service MatchmakingMoms.com, where the members are moms, not singles who love them. The site, originally launched in 2004, is the brainchild of San Francisco-based entrepreneur, Dawn Miller, 32, who was inspired to turn the matchmaking efforts of her own mother and her friends' mothers into a larger network.

Unlike friend-recommended sites, such as greatboyfriends.com, parents know dealbreaking details that are often overlooked until too late in the dating game, such as whether you are a morning person or a night owl, messy or clean, or refuse to eat your vegetables. "An ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend may not always give an unbiased evaluation of you," says Miller. "Your mom, on the other hand, has seen you in many different relationships and knows what has worked and what hasn't about each."

Is arranged marriage any more successful at keeping divorce rates down? According to this Minneapolis Star Tribune article, not really:

Divorce statistics are hard to come by, but divorce is legal throughout even the traditional Islamic world, with rates in some countries approaching or even exceeding those in the West, according to a 2002 Gallup Poll. In Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, for example, those who view divorce as "entirely justifiable morally" outnumber those who strongly condemn it.


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- Pandu I'm a Fan of Pandu 8 fans permalink

One important benefit of arranged marriages is that people do not spend half their youth seeking a mate.

I started being interested in girls around 10 years old, and I was married at age 25. During the 15 years in between, my mind was largely occupied by thoughts related to finding a mate. I think that's fairly normal under the cicumstances. In fifteen years of looking at girls and women as possible sex partners or hopefully a suitable wife, habits develop that make fidelity in marriage difficult for many people.

We talk about marriages of love, but this is nothing but a euphemism for lust. Love is only for God. In Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu's final Siksastika prayer, He says, "I know no one but Krishna as my Lord, and He shall remain so even if He handles Me roughly by His embrace, or leaves Me completely broken hearted by not being present before Me. He is completely free to do anything and everything, for He is always my worshipful Lord, unconditionally." That is love, and there is nothing like it in mundane relationships like wedlock. The fact that the so-called love that forms the basis of marriage is lust, rather than love, is exemplified by the prenuptial agrements. These marriages are basically a license for sex, an economic partnership, and little more.

Marriages based on duty endure far better than love based on sexual attraction. Although sexual interests are very prone to change, duty remains as long as one is civilized. Since Western so-called culture is basically a glorification of animal impulses of eating, sleeping, mating, and defending, sex-based marriages are very popular. We have very little sense of duty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 03/03/2008
- mediamarv I'm a Fan of mediamarv 38 fans permalink
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No.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 03/02/2008
- Ajita I'm a Fan of Ajita 106 fans permalink
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The reaction to this article has made me aware of the poor understanding of arranged marriage. In most people's minds, arranged marriage is when parents force their kids onto someone they dont know. I found it hilarious to read one person say arranged marriage is only found in dictatorships. The biggest democracy in the world, India, has a long history of arranged marriage. In spite of my aversion to such traditions, I find that it is on the whole a functional system.

It is a mistake to think of AM as a controlling force. In modern India, AM is a term used to talk about any circumstance where a planned approach to a long term relationship is undertaken. Web sites, friends and,yes, parents, all contribute to the search for a partner. Contrary to intuition, such arrangements have been shown to work, by producing more stable and happy marriages.


Some extreme traditional practices such as dowry are used by scheming families to extort money and cause pain in AMs, but the rate at which this happens is easily offset by the screening process that goes into selecting a mate that is compatible. In modern India, men and women are free to marry who they love. Usually AM is a way for ensuring compatibility as well, which shows given the far lesser rate of divorce in AMs.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for love. Im an old school romantic myself and cannot imagine a loveless union with someone just to accomplish a social and biological end. But I can recognize the benifits of the system to someone else. For example, many women can find love safely and efficiently in a chaotic and populous country. So, AM, while it has been used to control women in the past (just like religion and sex), can also be a useful protection for women who need to find love but are unable to because of social circumstances. AM is also good to bring good men, with plenty of loving and caring to give and the ability to provide for and raise a family, the opportunity to meet women who would be interested in them, but whom they would not meet usually. There are many men out there who dont play the game, who are not players, who may lack the social skills to enter into a good relationship. As a recent study revealed, socially awkward people usually are better long-term partners because they don't know how to play the dating game and thus are more honest about their feelings... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23128715/

In any case, AM, while not appropriate for many people, can bring a lot of happiness and satisfaction to the lives of many others. Our own subjective biases towards the concept of marriage do not validate an opinion on the traditions and practices of other cultures, or on the efficacy of such practices in our culture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 02/29/2008

Background: Indian, living in India.

Ultimately, in marriage, you have to get pragmatic and get down to the fundamentals. What works? And what does not? If arranged marriages work, what's wrong with them? Even if you don't agree with it, some of you might find some features of it interesting.

There is no compulsion in an arranged marriage. Everyone gets together, finds a match for you, and you have the right to say yes or no.

One aspect of an arranged marriage which is seldom stated or understood is the amount of background checks that the parents perform on the son/daughter-in-law and the other in-laws. Every possible common acquaintance is contacted and their views sought. A question commonly asked is "If you had a son/daughter for whom you are looking out for an alliance, would you consider this girl/boy to be a suitable match?".

I heard from a guy recently that when they were evaluating a match for his sister, they were a little concerned that the boy was involved in a start-up business which they didn't know about. Since my friend's father runs a successful small business of his own, he walked into the boy's office one day and asked to see the accounts books since the beginning of the firm. After poring over them and hearing what the boy's plans were, he declared himself satisfied and moved onto the next part of the evaluation.

You know what I think is the ultimate humiliation for a woman? Having to go to a singles bar in your late twenties and desperately trying to find a mate. So, each to his own, with an attitude of "Whatever floats your boat...".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 02/29/2008
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What one finds humiliating is relative. For some women going to a singles bar may be humiliating but for most women in the free world, having someone else dictate your life is far worse. My position is that the advantages of such practices are best weighed against the socio-cultural background of the individuals involved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 02/29/2008
- Ajita I'm a Fan of Ajita 106 fans permalink
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The reaction to this article has made me aware of the poor understanding of arranged marriage. In most people's minds, arranged marriage is when parents force their kids onto someone they dont know. I found it hilarious to read one person say arranged marriage is only found in dictatorships. The biggest democracy in the world, India, has a long history of arranged marriage. In spite of my aversion to such traditions, I find that it is on the whole a functional system.

It is a mistake to think of AM as a controlling force. In modern India, AM is a term used to talk about any circumstance where a planned approach to a long term relationship is undertaken. Web sites, friends and,yes, parents, all contribute to the search for a partner. Contrary to intuition, such arrangements have been shown to work, by producing more stable and happy marriages.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for love. Im an old school romantic myself and cannot imagine a loveless union with someone just to accomplish a social and biological end. But I can recognize the benifits of the system to someone else. For example, many women can find love safely and efficiently in a chaotic and populous country. So, AM, while it has been used to control women in the past (just like religion and sex), can also be a useful protection for women who need to find love but are unable to because of social circumstances. AM is also good to bring good men, with plenty of loving and caring to give and the ability to provide for and raise a family, the opportunity to meet women who would be interested in them, but whom they would not meet usually. There are many men out there who dont play the game, who are not players, who may lack the social skills to enter into a good relationship. As a recent study revealed, socially awkward people usually are better long-term partners because they don't know how to play the dating game and thus are more honest about their feelings... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23128715/

In any case, AM, while not appropriate for many people, can bring a lot of happiness and satisfaction to the lives of many others. Our own subjective biases towards the concept of marriage do not validate an opinion on the traditions and practices of other cultures, or on the efficacy of such practices in our culture.


Some extreme traditional practices such as dowry are used by scheming families to extort money and cause pain in AMs, but the rate at which this happens is easily offset by the screening process that goes into selecting a mate that is compatible. In modern India, men and women are free to marry who they love. Usually AM is a way for ensuring compatibility as well, which shows given the far lesser rate of divorce in AMs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 02/29/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 282 fans permalink
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Arranged marriage only happen in Dictatorships or Empires.

Welcome to the Empire of the USA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 02/29/2008

its sad this question is even being thrown out here .I see the war on women is gaining momentum here at Fluffington Hoes.Asking this question is like asking if rape is preferabble to consentual sex.We all know a few men and ( greedy,selfish fathers) would prefer rape and arranged marriages become accepted norms..but ill be damned if I live in a country where it is.I'd move..overnight..to a country that isnt steadilly moving backwards.Jumpin mexican beans..what filth!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 02/29/2008

Great topic and fascinating debate. I posted about this last night, here's my take:
Engage surveyed more than 800 single adults back in 2005 to learn more about the role matchmaking (and romantic meddling) played in their dating lives. Singles mentioned friends, and then mothers, as the two people most likely to want to meddle in their love lives. They resoundingly felt that friends make the best matchmakers and that mothers make the worst. Moms have relationship and marriage agendas that often aren’t aligned with what their children are actually seeking. That’s why every women in America over age 35 isn’t married to a doctor.
Internet “scientists,” convinced arranging marriages may in fact be a scalable enterprise, are peddling their magic compatibility elixirs to singles on leading dating sites today. Singles are matched based on analysis of a personality questionnaire, but ultimately someone decides: Can opposites attract? Do they introduce you to the type of person you are seeking, or the type of person they believe is right for you? What would your mother do?
Look at happy couples you know. How many had to pass a 200-question test to qualify to say “hello” to each other? What you’re likely to find is what we found in our research–half of all marriages are the result of someone first introducing the couple, but that someone was almost never a scientist, compatibility expert or marriage arranger.
Trish McDermott
VP of Love, Engage.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 02/29/2008
- Pandu I'm a Fan of Pandu 8 fans permalink

Was that a comment or an advertisement?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 03/03/2008
- mckinley I'm a Fan of mckinley 4 fans permalink

I love my parents, but I shudder to think about what kind of women they would have arranged for me to marry!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 AM on 02/29/2008
- HC I'm a Fan of HC permalink

This is just totally gross. I swear what are we going to back to next? Making education unnecessary for women b/c they should be barefoot and pregnant? Marrying our first cousins to keep the money within the family? I see no benefits to arranged marriages except as a means of social control, since it's clear a huge swath of people simply don't want to expend the energy and effort to take full responsibility of their life's destiny. We're not living 500 years ago, we're living NOW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 AM on 02/29/2008
- melakfilms I'm a Fan of melakfilms 7 fans permalink

Why is it people always seem to gloss over the ugly underbelly of arranged marriages? Have we grown so selfish and self-centered that the fundamental American reasoning for marriage - freedom of choice - to make your own decisions in our lives, for good or ill, are quickly being eroded by good old family greed? Millionaire Matchmaker? You must be joking. Many of my close friends are young, millionaire men and they go through women like tissue paper. You may land one but don't go crying to your friends when he asks you to sign a Webster-Dictionary sized prenup. I've also seen this happen, and most never mention the good ol' prenup to anyone they know, especially their parents out of sheer embarrassment. Why? Because it appears to most as a business arrangement. You give me nookie and I'll let you live in my house. Otherwise, why would the prenup exist?

A good friend of mine, a East Indian girl raised in the states, once proclaimed that she didn't trust herself for that almighty decision - marriage. That she better trusted her parents, people from a remote villiage in southwest India. Hopefully she didn't let them choose her doctor as well. But when she told me of this I was bewildered at the notion of love-less, romance-less, cold, calculating matrimonial bindings. She's about to give birth to her sixth child. What American, in their right mind, in this day and age has six children? I'll tell you who. Someone who believes that by having more children they will compensate for the love never garnered by a mate who views them as a business arrangement.

And while you people are trumpeting the beauty of this glorious Indian ritual, please don't leave out Wife Burning, Dowries and inescapable commitments (hence the impossibly low divorce rates). Most of these people don't divorce because not only would they lose their mate, but their biological parents as well, for having insulted them in their community.

If our fellow countrymen and women have lost their need to experience their own lives and seek out their own loves, for better or worse, then we are truly on our way to third-world countrydom, as many have suggested.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 02/28/2008
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I think your comment is grossly uninformed. Love is well and good in the land of the Taj Mahal, the most popular monument to love in the world. Indians value love very deeply and love has been an important part of marriage from before the days of the Kamasutra to the themes of Bollywood movies. You are stuck with an archaic idea of arranged marriage, which is akin to someone in the east thinking America is the land of slavery and witch burnings. I don't imagine Americans will, all of a sudden, come to understand someone else's culture through objective eyes, but ignorance is infuriating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 02/29/2008
- Pandu I'm a Fan of Pandu 8 fans permalink

Some Vedic historians claim the Taj Mahal was originally a temple.

I first read about that in _Proof of Vedic Culture's Global Existence_, by Stephen Knapp, who cites other historians on this fact.

www.stephen-knapp.com/was_the_taj_mahal_a_vedic_temple.htm


I agree that many people commenting here are judging a foreign culture from a position of ignorance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 03/03/2008
- melakfilms I'm a Fan of melakfilms 7 fans permalink

I'm hardly uninformed about the subject at hand. You know, the recital you gave earlier regarding free will to say "yes" or "no" to a potential mate shown you by parents, friends, what have you is not the area of concern. The concern comes later when the grave lack of love, abuse, what have you might enter the relationship. You know full well that once married, in the land of the Taj Mahal and far beyond its borders, divorce can be and ugly, nasty word that can lose a wife not only her immediate family, but her own biological parents as well. Please don't try and pawn off this archaic notion as the end all answer to romance. And why the dicotomy of AM vs. Singles Bars has been thrown into this debate is merely a straw man argument. Last year my best friend was introduced to a mutual friend of others in our peer group. They went out. They fell in love. They now married and having a baby. They didn't ask a single persons permission to do so. They never felt the need to garner anyone else's opinion on the subject. And no singles bars were involved. And if things go south ten years from now for them, there will be no worry about one's parents never speaking to them again.

I will give you a prime example of the way Indian parents hold pyschological control over there children. I know because I was involved in this event. I dated an Indian girl whose parents hailed from Kerala. We had sex on a regular basis (oh, I forgot - arranged Indian girls are supposed to be virgins - oops) and she, as well as her family were avid Catholics. My girlfriend used to go to the local Catholic church every morning to give or hear prayer against abortion. She made me go to an anti-abortion rally with her. However, one day I came to her house and she was in deep depression, crying. She had missed her period. I tried to comfort her but could not aide her in the least. Softly she told me that if indeed she were pregnant with my child that she HAD NO CHOICE but to get an abortion. She proclaimed, "I could never do that to my parents!" So, here was this Catholic girl who every day of her adult life decried abortion telling me that she would have to get one if I had made her pregnant. Her parents had total control of her although they lived a hundred miles away.

I will advise that anyone who wants to understand what real Indian culture is about, they go out and rent "Bhaji On The Beach," a movie regarding such subjects. Oh yeah, it was written and directed by the Indian woman Gurinder Chadha.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 03/03/2008
- melakfilms I'm a Fan of melakfilms 7 fans permalink

Perhaps this article will open your eyes up a bit...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080311/wl_uk_afp/britainpakistanmarriagereligion

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 03/11/2008

It`s an absurbed question to be asking in this society............................50% of all marriges in the US end in divorce................we are totally messed up by the concept of success.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 02/28/2008
- Manni I'm a Fan of Manni 3 fans permalink

People are clueless about arranged Marriages.

Mom and Dad arranging is no different from friends arranging an introduction!

Its no more barbaric than your friend reintroducing two people.

What dumb asses you find here!! Sheesh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 02/28/2008
- margotb822 I'm a Fan of margotb822 7 fans permalink
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I think it means an actual marriage, not a blind date (like your friends would set you up on). And, in that case, I would definitely protest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 02/28/2008

I am of much the same mind as Keemia. Arranged marriages tend to be based on factors that matter more in the long term i.e. religious beliefs, career goals etc. Anecdotally speaking, my parents ( who are east Indian) had an arranged marriage and they've been together 30 mostly happy years and they are each other's best friend. Of course the opposite is true as well, but statistically speaking I don't imagine the numbers are much different than non-arranged marriages or "Love Matches" as they're called in India.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 02/28/2008

theres nothing wrong with arranging meetings or dates based on reasonable comparisons from people of experience, the line is only crossed when people are forced to do something against their will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 02/28/2008
- mckinley I'm a Fan of mckinley 4 fans permalink

Uh....isn't "people are forced to do something against their will", or at least their choice, the DEFINITION of Arranged Marriage?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 AM on 02/29/2008
- True I'm a Fan of True 2 fans permalink

So long as the couple has the ultimate choice, and parents are not controlling or self-centered, i think this is a beneficial trend. Let's face it, young men and women are not known to make the wisest decisions. The views of someone who cares about you may bring something to your attention (good or bad) that you aren't noticing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 02/28/2008
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