McCain's Iraq Barack Attack Shows A Crack

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Huffington Post   |  Rachel Sklar   |   February 28, 2008 08:46 AM


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Yesterday John McCain launched an attack on Barack Obama, showing a hint of general election strategy — and more than a hint of vulnerability. Plain and simple, Barack Obama won this round, and potentially exposed a major McCain vulnerability on foreign policy.

By now you all know what happened: In Tuesday night's debate , Obama answered a question on Iraq policy by saying, "[A]s commander in chief, I will always reserve the right to make sure that we are looking out for American interests. And if al Qaeda is forming a base in Iraq, then we will have to act in a way that secures the American homeland and our interests abroad."

McCain licked his chops and chortled out the following:

"I have some news — Al Qaeda is in Iraq. It's called 'Al Qaeda in Iraq.' My friends, if we left, they wouldn't be establishing a base. They'd be taking a country and I'm not going to allow that to happen."

This gave Obama the chance not only to fire back, but to have a do-over on his original comment, which at best needed clarification and at worst betrayed confusion on his part. Instead, he got the chance to fire back at McCain, and how:

"I have some news for John McCain. There was no such thing as Al Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq... So John McCain may like to say he wants to follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of Hell, but so far, all he's done is follow George Bush into a misguided war in Iraq."

Point: Obama — McCain just got schooled, and how, because Obama's answer was right and John McCain's was pretty easy to pick apart. Here's why: There are two al Qaedas, really (at least for our purposes here). One flew planes into buildings on September 11th, the other wasn't in Iraq until after the 2003 invasion and is less a wing of the larger group than what back in September General David Petraeus called "not a unified force," really more like insurgents who had formed "a loose confederation with al Qaeda at various times." That group comprises approximately anywhere 2 - 15% of the insurgency. Once again, for emphasis: Not the same al Qaeda that attacked America on September 11th, nor the same al Qaeda led by Osama bin Laden whom George Bush vowed to hunt down and bring to justice but instead got sidetracked in a country that hadn't had anything to do with 9/11.

This not-so-subtle distinction is easily overlooked owing to the fact that the two groups share the same name. That is, of course, intentional. The phrase "al Qaeda" was being thrown around all over the place back around the time of the Petraeus hearings (which were right around the time of September 11th!); in fact, Petraeus called al Qaeda in Iraq "public enemy number one" which he then had to retract on NBC Nightly News under vigorous questioning from Brian Williams, who forced him to make the distinction between the two terrorist groups and admit that al Qaeda in Iraq was a very different entity.

John McCain knows this darn well, which is why his comment to Obama was so darn arrogant: He knows the distinction, but would certainly never make it in such a way so that voters got the difference. The very fact that he smugly assumed — or tried to imply — that Obama might not actually know it himself is evidence of how confusing the matter is.

This was a golden opportunity for Obama, and he took it. He took McCain's condescension ("I have some news") and called him on it ("I've been paying attention, John McCain"), smoothing over his own initial gaffe and instead makig the key distinction that McCain did not and twisting the knife further by pointing out that, while al Qaeda was actually in Afghanistan, McCain was following George Bush into an al Qaeda-free Iraq. The message: Don't underestimate me. And also: I've got your number.

The media should be paying attention here, to more than just the first big skirmish of the putative general election. What this did — or should do — was reframe the foreign policy distinctions between the two, and the assumptions about each candidate. McCain is seen as the battle-tested war hero, the foreign policy guy who had the guts to support an unpopular policy (the Surge) and was vindicated when it ended up working out (though let's add the usual caveats regarding ethnic cleansing, population displacement, and utter lack of diplomacy here). Obama has been cast as the newbie, the one-term junior Senator who said he'd bomb Pakistan but only after having tea with our enemies. This exchange should change that, because not only does Obama know what he's talking about, he knows how to use that knowledge against John McCain. More than that, it should put McCain on the defensive — from the press as well as Obama — because now the onus is on him to prove that he, too, understands the difference.

McCain also exposed another crack in his reasoning yesterday, one that Obama alluded to but Dems would be wise to pick up on. He said: "My friends, if we left, they [al Qaeda] wouldn't be establishing a base. They'd be taking a country and I'm not going to allow that to happen." This is the classic rationale for staying in Iraq and it can be undercut. In fact, an equally strong argument can be made for a McCain presidency attracting al Qaeda: Saying that the U.S. is going to be in Iraq for the next hundred years is nothing short of a recruiting tool — what VoteVets.org's (and HuffPo's) Jon Soltz called "a dangerous recruiting poster for insurgents." That's an invitation to come fight against the hated American occupiers — and as Stoltz notes, the people who will bear the consequences of such a reckless remark will be the troops on the ground.

Obama was also smart to bring in Afghanistan — which the U.S. had and lost, where George Bush failed to find Osama bin Laden, which actually is an al Qaeda stronghold. Iraq is the buzzword, but Afghanistan is its own disaster, and one that McCain failed to recognize (Feb. 2007: "We are doing many things right in Afghanistan.") It's actually sort of amazing how much this exchange laid bare — and all of it should be putting McCain on the defensive.

Maybe this is why today McCain quickly reframed the matter, saying that what mattered now was moving forward. But if he wants to do that based on his judgment, it falls to Obama (and Clinton, who must be kicking herself today) to expose how flawed that judgment is. It also falls to the media, even though they love the old guy (er, the NYT excepted) They've been too quick to anoint him the foreign policy leader here, and too slow to really examine exactly where he's stood and what that's meant. It's the media that has allowed McCain to be the presumptive leader on foreign policy, and the media has framed this race in terms of Democrats having to challenge him on the war.

After this exchange, John McCain should be just as challenged. After all, all of the above is the result of the Bush administration's disastrous Iraq War policy — which John McCain stands behind. Defending against the fallout from that is much more complicated than just saying, "America doesn't cut and run!" John McCain, the presumptive foreign policy candidate, the presumptive national security candidate, has a lot of 'splaining to do.

NB: By the way, this is classic Obama, turning a gaffe into a victory, like he did the other night with the Farrakhan question. He was wrong initially about al Qaeda being in Iraq — presumably he was going for a slightly different interpretation, but he did misspeak. This is also turning out to be classic Clinton, who has been left out of this exchange and missed her opportunity to jump on Obama's gaffe.

Update, Mar. 19/08: This has suddenly come back into the headlines again with McCain's second big gaffe, stating that Iran was supporting al Qaeda in Iraq.

Related:
Obama: "Security Gap" Exists Between Rhetoric And Reality [HuffPost]
Media Plays Enabler To McCain Foreign Policy Gaffes [HuffPolitics]

Obama, McCain Argue Over Iraq [LA Times]
The Myth of AQI [Washington Monthly]
Gen. Petraeus and Al Qaeda Fearmongering [ETP]
"A Million Years in Iraq" - President McCain's Dangerous Recruiting Poster for Insurgents [HuffPo]

*Alternate headline: "Barack Smacks Back Against McCain's Iraq Attack"

 
 

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- MediaConcepts See Profile I'm a Fan of MediaConcepts

I feel like Seinfeld: "No pick! No pick! No gaffe!" Saying that Obama's alleged gaffe wasn't crucial to the post doesn't detract from the fact that you are repeating McCain's incorrect assertion that Obama made a gaffe. He didn't. He merely repeated, almost verbatim, the moderator's hypothetical. He didn't say he agreed with the premise of the moderator's hypothetical. That is not a requirement to answering the hypothetical. If you have a problem with the hypothetical, you need to take that up with the moderator. Blaming an incorrect premise in a hypothetical on the person who then went on to answer the hypothetical not of his choosing is really unfair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 02/29/2008
- indyny See Profile I'm a Fan of indyny

Ms. Sklar -
Saw you on MSNBC with Nora today, and I've got some news for you: You're really not that pretty or amusing, even on TV.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 02/29/2008
- mouselion See Profile I'm a Fan of mouselion

It seems the Republican '08 tool -- Attack Dog McCain -- is a double-edged sword that will surely cause as much or more damage to its wielder than to Obama. The trick is, get the media focusing in on every time they bludgeon themselves as they strike at "the enemy". If you can just get the media to just watch, take notes and document the actual spastic attempts of Republicans, simply point them out -- Obama's job at capturing the presidency will be a total piece of cake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 02/29/2008
- ApolloSpeaks See Profile I'm a Fan of ApolloSpeaks

THE SECRET MEANING OF CLINTON AND MCCAIN CAMPAIGNS

Did you know that on the day Hillary Clinton was born Great Britain withdrew their troops from Iraq after a 6 year military occupation? And did you know that exactly twenty years later to the day John McCain was shot down over Vietnam and taken prisoner?

To find out what this astonishing coincidence means for the war in Iraq, our conflict with Iran and the countdown to crisis in the Middle East go to

apollospeaks.blogtownhall

and read: The Signs of Hillary Clinton and John McCain: The Secret Meaning of their Presidential Campaigns.


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 02/29/2008
- dolphy See Profile I'm a Fan of dolphy

I'd like to add that if a ragtag group of 5,000 to 10,000 fighters can control Iraq, and 350,000 American soldiers and mercenaries cannot do the same thing, what are we spending our billions for? I think McCain will lose big time if he continues to argue FOR the continuation of W(orst)'s foreign policies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 02/29/2008
- Ides See Profile I'm a Fan of Ides

Obama didn't "misspeak" on Farrakhan, Hillary just tried to parse his statement by (hopefully) pretending she was too ignorant to know the difference between "denounce" and "reject," "CONDEMN" and "REFUSE." And it wouldn't be the first time (note: COO is not the same as CEO, although she tried to pull THAT one out of her ass, too, even having to completely think of a new word because she realized in mid-sentence her mistake as she was talking).

The amused response from Brian Williams and Tim Russert and Obama's "educated" base in the audience reflected what the rest of us were thinking: "Wow...is she being petty or does she really not know what these words mean...?"

The reality is, the reason Obama seems so brilliant at turning "gaffes" into "victories" is because his competitors, and much of the media (not including Olbermann, who has no shame casually thesaurus-checking pundits on the air and making them seem stupid), just aren't as smart as him. Al Gore was a brilliant policy wonk, but Obama is just brilliant.

I really can't enforce this enough, as it sounds like I am merely gushing over "my team," but watching him navigate through a media that feels less and less comfortable using easily-available quotes because they're not really sure how to twist his words into an entertaining narrative is fascinating. Even Tucker Carlson, who thinks he's an empty suit, admitted on the air that he is a grammatical genius who seems to stump the people circling overhead for a bit of carrion to pick at.

The man is simply on. ONE HOUR after McCain took a shot at him he was on the stump slapping him down. His staff is damn incredible, too, debunking rumors DAYS before the newspapers can turn them into stories and MONTHS before they actually become controversial. The Republicans are still playing catch up with him. Damn, George W. Bush's biting retort was, "Ow...leave me alone, you've got at least a week before primary season is over, so stop hitting me!"

I'm just glad we don't have a president asking what the meaning of "is" is and we instead have a president INSTRUCTING the media on what the meaning of "denounce" is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 02/28/2008
- pedrothemigrant See Profile I'm a Fan of pedrothemigrant

"There are two al Qaedas, really (at least for our purposes here). " You mean for your twisted leftist propoganda purposes? Yup, then I totally agree. If you mean in reality, then you are sorely mistaken in your facts, and with a modicum of research, any Obama bot could see the tragic gaffe the soon to be runner-up has made. (unless you're living in Obama-Obama-land of course)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 02/28/2008
- dolphy See Profile I'm a Fan of dolphy

Pedro,

If you're a real migrant, my advice is not to ever vote rethug. It's like buying a hammer and hitting yourself with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 02/29/2008
- MediaConcepts See Profile I'm a Fan of MediaConcepts

Aunt Sally is correct. There was no gaffe by Obama as is indicated twice in this post. Obama was responding to Russert's hypothetical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 02/28/2008
- OliverTwist See Profile I'm a Fan of OliverTwist

You know I don't think Obama ever did misspeak. Al Qaeda in Iraq is a US defined brand name used to paint a vile association on those Iraqis our government wishes to kill or has killed and wishes to villify. The people who are given this label generally have no association with Al Qaeda in Afganistan and would not use the title to describe themselves.

Keep in mind that many in the rank in file of the Republican party are happy to follow the example of their leaders and brand Democrats and other they don't like in America as Al Qaeda in America. It's insane, but they do it regularly.

Obama would do well to send out researchers to nail down the timeline and origins of the development of this brand name. At one time folks would say there were maybe 800 or so foreign fighters in Iraq (not counting coalition forces) making up less than 2% of the insurgency. Then they started to change the story so that every Iraqi killed by US forces is Al Qaeda by default.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 02/28/2008
- pedrothemigrant See Profile I'm a Fan of pedrothemigrant

"US defined brand name" ???? Holy crap Batman. If you have down syndrome, there's really no need for you to try to massage my prostate with your tongue Jack. Pedro can't even begin to define your ignorance into Engrish. Do your research next time troglodite-Google is your friend

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 02/29/2008
- jbcowan See Profile I'm a Fan of jbcowan

Hey Pedrotheignorant: Your Proctologist just called....they found your Head !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 02/29/2008
- FogBelter See Profile I'm a Fan of FogBelter


Rachel, I'm fairly confident that Obama can handle anything McCain has to throw at him ... One reason for that is that McCain has far more toes in his camp to worry about stepping on than Obama has.


I also think that McCain will attempt to keep his campaign above board, while the RNC won't feel the same constraint ... that will put McCain in the constant position of having to defuse situations, like the Cunningham mess, in order to keep his campaign on an even keel.


If Obama is the nominee, ironically, we might find that McCain winds up being his greatest ally in the General Election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 02/28/2008
- ultramagnetic See Profile I'm a Fan of ultramagnetic

"I also think that McCain will attempt to keep his campaign above board, while the RNC won't feel the same constraint ... that will put McCain in the constant position of having to defuse situations, like the Cunningham mess, in order to keep his campaign on an even keel."

Exactly. The more mud the 527s and Far right tries to sling at Obama, the more will stick to McCain keeping constantly on the defensive having to defend his camp and denounce 527s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 02/29/2008
- Yasmine See Profile I'm a Fan of Yasmine

1 Senator McCain made the worst POSSIBLE MISTAKE when he claimed that he would be fine staying 100 years in IRAQ.
It reminded me of President BUSH's BRING THEM ON !!!
2- ANOTHER MISTAKE is his reply to OBAMA saying what happened in Iraq was THE PAST.!!

This is a horrific mistake . IT MEANS he is shrogging the PAST mistakes that the Republican administration have made. THE MISTAKE THAT HAS COST SO MANY LIVES, SO MANY MAIMED VETERANS, SO MANY BILLIONS LOST..................
SHAME ON YOU FOR SHRUGGING OFF MISTAKES..........THESE WERE CRIMINAL MISTAKES.
when He went to visit with HILLARY that center where the maimed soldiers were kept that HILLARY DESCRIBED SO WELL IN THE DEBATE..................DID THEY BOTH REALIZE THAT IT WAS THE DIRECT RESULT OF THEIR ......MISGUIDED VOTE TO AUTHORIZE THE IRAQ WAR.???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
AND WILL THEY HAVE LEARNED SO THEY DO NOT LEAD US INTO ANOTHER WAR????

SENATORS...........................DO NOT SHRUG OFF PAST MISTAKES ......PLEASE FOR GOD'S SAKE ............LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES.



    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 02/28/2008
- kroses98 See Profile I'm a Fan of kroses98

McCain has a problem with his mouth. He cannot seem to control it. He said the other day that if the war proves to be a mistake, then he "loses." Later, he tried to take those words back. In these days of video and tape, NO WORDS can ever be taken "back." Neither can that picture of him hugging Bush, which will connect him with the biggest "DUNCE" in the history of modern man!!! Sorry, "my friend," YOU LOSE!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 02/29/2008
- Dahveed See Profile I'm a Fan of Dahveed

The Republican-McCain argument that we "lose the war" if we withdraw from Iraq is ridiculous. We are not at war with the people of Iraq. We (mistakenly) invaded Iraq and "liberated" the Iraqi people from a tyrant. On this sham argument the Republicans need immediate repudiation. They are attempting to manipulate the American citizenry by fear-mongering by conflating sectarian violence in Iraq with terrorism. According to our own intelligence and recent statement by the Iraqis themselves, al-Qaeda in Iraq consists of a small few disorganized individuals who now experience the wrath of Iraqi citizens. John McCain seeks to manipulate the American voter with his shameful "wave the white flag of surrender" statement. This type of self-serving politics got us into war in the first place. Mr. McCain, you should be ashamed. How dare you call yourself a patriot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 02/28/2008
- bucklaw See Profile I'm a Fan of bucklaw

Al Qaeda didn't bomb us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 02/28/2008
- pedrothemigrant See Profile I'm a Fan of pedrothemigrant

you are now officially the dubest bastard who has ever posted on this sewer

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 02/28/2008
- OSUMercutio See Profile I'm a Fan of OSUMercutio

If you want to get technical, I guess you could say they launched a missile attack against us since the planes were targeting the buildings. But if you're suggesting that this is a conspiracy by the administration just ask yourself: is George Bush really that smart?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 02/28/2008
- indyny See Profile I'm a Fan of indyny

What, no Olsen twin updates today?
Ms. Sklar, you've really let us down - maybe tommorrow?
Please?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 02/28/2008
- SubparDude See Profile I'm a Fan of SubparDude

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BLESS his heart, but Sen. McCain was in custody for 5.5 years of his Warrior Service, and though no fault of his own, missed most of the war. The Hanoi Hilton was not a school for Military Strateegery. It did make him bitter and irresolute --- "I'll Never Surrender!!"

That real American General -- Washington -- knew how to fight, and when not too. At the Battle of New York he led the Revolutionary forces on a Huge Retreat. Because he was smart enough to avoid a disaster, and pick the right fight. No coward he. Just smarter than his opposition.

Neither Bush nor McCain have learned that military nuance. But our enemies have. And so has Obama!

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 02/28/2008
- Mormondude See Profile I'm a Fan of Mormondude

After he returned home, he spent a year in the military college researching everything about the Vietnam War. He was an instructor in the Navy.

Take your armchair philosophy elsewhere, you're just making yourself look ignorant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 02/28/2008
- SubparDude See Profile I'm a Fan of SubparDude

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He learned about the war in college, eh?

You go with that.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 03/01/2008
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