Jon Stewart to BriWi: "Which Candidate Are You Biased Against?"

Huffington Post   |  Rachel Sklar   |   February 29, 2008 08:12 AM


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Last night Jon Stewart hosted his good friend and frequent guest Brian Williams to The Daily Show for a spirited discussion in which they covered a wide range of topics ranging from the campaign (obviously), the Oscars, SNL, the notion of media bias, and exactly on what side of the body one might find the heart. It got punchy early, with Stewart asking Williams about moderating presidential debates and asking, "Which candidate are you biased against — Are you biased for Obama because you're sexist or for Hillary because you're a racist?" Williams declined to respond (but noted that the Daily Show had already skewered him on that point in their debate coverage the night before: "I saw Samantha Bee last night — what, you think I don't have a television?" After a few more joking barbs exchanged, Williams picked up his mug and said, "This is why I drink" — which we need to tell Media Matters about right away because he's a noted teetotaler.

Stewart pressed Williams about the campaign, wondering about the atmosphere live at the debates ("tense" said Williams) and whether Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are friendly in private ("I don't think there's a whole lot of love between these two"). Stewart also raised Clinton's pointed comment in the debate about always getting the first question; Williams pointed out that she had made the most news since the last debate but conceded that probably she had received the first question more often than Obama (though noted that there had often been more than just the two of them in the debates). For ETP, though, here's the exchange that jumped out at us:

JS: When she's talking policy, I always find her to be very compelling... There's something odd when she falls into that other pattern that is more off-putting, because when she's matched against Obama on policy she seems to do very well...do you think she's not confident in that? Why do you think they go back to the other thing?
BW: And you're trying to get me to express an opinion for the first time in my career why, exactly?
JS: Because I want to know....I wanna know....what makes BriWi tick.

At this point we'd just like to note that the nickname "BriWi" originated here at ETP, though obviously by now it belongs to the world. Thank you, Jon Stewart, for the shout-out. Watch the rest of the interview below for all of that and more, plus Jon's assessment of Tim Russert's giant noggin.


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Okay - so Hillary is a whiny bitch and Obama is a dim bulb who talks a good game. We get it. The media has made itself more important than it should be. But where else are we supposed to get information? Whatever news outlet you go to, you find the same biases and self-important analysis. Why are we all so stupid that we need an analysis? Just tell me what happened and I'll figure out what that means without the likes of Chris, Brian, Tim, et al. If I can't figure out the significance (or more usually the insignificance) of a specific event then perhaps I am not qualified to be electing a president. I am sick of so-called reporters practically salivating as they announce the latest "BREAKING NEWS" item which turns out to be something so minor and silly that if we didn't have 24 hr. news cycles would never be reported. I am supporting HIllary because, being a bitch myself, I realize how much we get done in a day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 03/02/2008

Brian Williams: Please stop hurting America.

I watch your Evening News. What you do is not NEWS. There is a lot happening in the world but it doesn't make it on your show. Please stop with the daily "Medical Miracles" (is all your money invested in Bio Medical stocks). Use the time to report on events in China, India, Europe, o and yes . . . the Middle East.

Please hire some Arab reporters and have them report on what is occurring in the ME. It is an important topic.

Please Brian Williams. STOP HURTING AMERICA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 03/01/2008

It was disgusting to see Russert gloating with Chris Matthews over how he, Russert, had a "gotcha" moment with Hillary. A moderator should try to illuminate, and advance the discussion, not gloat openly five minutes after the debate.
Tell me, Mr. Russert, how about asking Bush and McCain if they are finally willing to finally admit that it was wrong to vote to give Bush the power to attack Iraq? By comparison, Hillary looks pretty damn good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 03/01/2008

I could not agree more. Russert didn't play devil's advocate. He played Republican advocate. I have never seen such biased coverage by the media against a candidate as there has been against Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 03/02/2008

Who's JS to ask? JS and his stupid line about Obama at the Oscars. Not only that but JS makes stupid one-line comments about anything foreign (to him.) JS should travel around the world for 3-5 years and learn a bit more than he does. Bring back Billy Crystal!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 03/01/2008

Nah - you should just stop watching him. Your blood pressure would decrease and you wouldn't have to waste valuable time and bandwidth trashing him online because you don't find him smart or funny or he mocked your candidate...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 03/03/2008

Comedians should not joke about politicians?

Everyone in public life is a target..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 03/02/2008

The feed system used on these clips SUCKS. Complete garbage.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 03/01/2008

Jon Stewart is such an amazingly gracious host. He makes every guest look good, even when he's digging into them a bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 03/01/2008

Williams and Russert = Bad journalism

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 02/29/2008

Ditto, also add Mathews there....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 03/01/2008

Chris Matthews is possibly one of the most annoying people on air

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 03/01/2008

Along with Bill O'Liely

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 03/01/2008

Jon is SOOOO PRO Hillary. He can't stomach the whole :Yes We Canned Ham" Speech WAY TOO
SMART to drink the Kool-Aid. Love him

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 02/29/2008

Clintonistas clutching at straws that aren't there are either pathetically hilarious or hilariously pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 03/01/2008

If Jon Stewart was so Pro-Hillary, then why on CNN's Larry King show. When asked by King about why Clinton was loosing? Stewart's quick reply was "she (aka Clinton) was the front-runner tell people started to Vote, votings what happend" (this was followed by big laughs from both Stewart and King.)

Let me just add this, "BURNNNNN!" LOL

And if Obama supporters are drinking kool-aid, then clinton supporters most be smoking cigars!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 03/01/2008

Stewart may be pro-Clinton but he is also a rather brilliant satirist and so I'm willing to forgive him for being only human.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 03/01/2008

Not really, he is refrains himself from taking sides...
Irony being , mock news is becoming more and more believable than the so called real news...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 03/01/2008

Has he done any campaigning outside the show? Because from the jokes and comedy bits he seems pretty equal opportunity to me. I always feel like he and his writers go for the best joke rather than trying to score points for any one side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 03/01/2008

Stewart is pro-Hillary? I didn't sound like it when he was interviewed by Larry King on CNN right before the Oscars. In fact, he said she was the only one left in the race who didn't seem willing to make any significant changes to the political landscape if elected (meaning: she wouldn't change the way politics are "played"). I thought it strange that Stewart thought McCain would do this... but that's a subject best left for another time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 AM on 03/01/2008

Geez...enough with the stupid nicknames. BriWi? Can we not be grown up and call a man his name? And really, why have this guy on? He's just the cover man for a big media company which thinks (or at least wishes) it is a candidate in the election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 02/29/2008

tnrc - In case you haven't noticed (and by your remark I'm guessin' you haven't), but Jon Stewart is a "comedian" on the "COMEDY CHANNEL" and Brian Williams is a great sport every time he's on Jon's show. So get a sense of humor for christ sake you boring ass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 02/29/2008

Oh Jon, your young daughter will grow up one day and see the clip of you asking "what do I do with this" while we all know it was out of pure love- the truth is- women scare the beeejebus out of men. That's why we work harder- get paid less- get called a bitch when we stand up- every thing we got we got the hard way. www.politicalanmesia.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 02/29/2008

SO, ALL men are "scared" of WOMEN ? In general, or ALL women...and so hence, you guess that is why women MUST be stronger and even (b)itchier to prove are best ? Uh, sorry, as a somewhat rather strong (b)itchy fem myself , do NOT buy that premise and is one of the faults that FAULT the Hillary campers with, the presumption that women MUST prevail at all costs whether Hillary actually IS THE BEST CHOICE, no matter the FULL RECORD which is GLOSSED OVER and given a "pass" way too often but then whined about when some DO want to fully scrutenyze ,inspect or question...AW shucks, its just the boys picking on her, blah, blah, blah usuage to difuse REALITY based issues that YES, folks really want to KNOW about !!! Its all marketing ploys and deployments and more of the same which in the C's experience has wonked so well on their behalf in the past but may prove to NOT this time around and they are showing their befuddlement and lack of really "getting it' !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 03/01/2008

I really don't get what you're trying to say here. At least not in relation to Jon Stewart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 02/29/2008

I don't really understand the pretense these pundits pose that they don't understand what Clinton was getting at when she talked about always going first, etc. And I'm a little disappointed in Stewart for apparently not getting it as well. The exchange that Sklar points out is interesting for more than just the BriWi shout out. Stewart says, "When she's matched against Obama on policy she seems to do very well." The problem there is no one seems to be interested in policy, or the fact that she knows her stuff and he sometimes doesn't. For that reason he does have an advantage when they ask her questions first. He'll usually repeat what she says, and then try to add some of his stumps. It's very much like being partnered with an unprepared student for a class presentation. She does all the work, and he says "yeah and also..."

These debates also never delve into the nitty gritty of real issues, but skims the surface. Whenever Clinton tries to go deeper than the surface, they usually cut her off. I"ve also noticed that he"s given more opportunities to rebut her comments. She usually has to fight for the ones she gets. And more so in the CNN debates rather that this past MSNBC debate, she"ll answer a question and the moderator will pretend that they didn"t quite understand her or she didn"t answer at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 02/29/2008

Uh, I also remember mention of a COIN TOSS that let the winner of the coin toss determine WHO went first...and further, LOL , Yes, Obama won one or two of those coin tosses and opted for Hillary to go FIRST, would have likely been equally skewered to some extent for NOT being a "gentleman" if HE chose theoption of "opening" (remember, he got tagged a bit on that issue before, dig and be reminded....and note how he graciously does the chair for the lady....LOL ) Folks are in full SEEK mode to discredit Obama as best they can...no more than the CLintons and their squad of campers...They did NOT take Obama serously at the beginning, thought he provided a nice sideshow diversion as they were SURE that Hillary was INEVITIBLE a she had been actually protrayed that way as far back as her FIRST (carpet bagged version ala' RFK) NY Senate seat race and MANY of her SENATE VOTES were POLITICALLY motivated for POLITICAL POSITONINGS..After the 2004 Dem loss (of which the CLintons were interjected as NOT being enthused of Kerry for it would DELAY a run by Hillary, YEAH, check out the archives folks, that too is there in the mix) from 2004 forward, the media has promoted the notion that HILLARY WAS THE DEM INEVITIBLE, and the CLintons promoted that as well even when coyly playing the "will she or won't she declare game--that was all part of the poli-game, they continued to fund raise and stash the cash for just this run and ARROGANTLY blew big bucks in her last NY Senate seat run against oppositon that was dismal and recognized as dismal but wanting a FLOURISH and confident MORE cash would be sent to the Clinton campaign fun, well...comes down to Feb2007, in difficulties due to poor campaign management on many levels but cash wise as well and Hillary had to lend herself $5million (likely a biz tax write off, but who knows, as does NOT yet release tax records which again could highlight Bills foundaton to having $$$ donated from major FOREIGN entities and etc for the FOundation as well as his P-Library...but Whatever....THe media is JUST picking on Hillary cuz she's a strong woman....Yeah, whatever but NOT right on that mark!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 03/01/2008

They have designed the debate to be cursory. It's to Obama's advantage. When she pushes and gets into the dirt it forces him to counter and thats where it is revealed the man has a shallow grasp of the many policy issues that makes the country run.

The media, if it really wants to get something accomplished, should extend the debates to 2 solid hours and actually require each candidate to respond and rebutt any of their opponent's debating viewpoint.

A real debate requires a focus to detail. Obama gets worse as the debates go on.

If Edwards were still in this, it would be even more apparent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 02/29/2008

I could not disagree with you more. I believe Hillary is well versed on the details of the policies that she has outlined. But, when she is asked about topics outside of her "own" policies, her judgement and her answers are often not well thought out. That is where Obama has captured the opportunity to calmingly flip her response and show her analysis as flawed. Her votes and many of the issues she has championed in the Senate are not in line with most Americans; the war vote, the Iran vote, the flag vote, the bankruptcy bill, not voting on Telecom immunity, etc. In truth, she has little of Obama to be critical of. We see a campaign not well executed and financially mismanaged. All this is a prelude to a Clinton Presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 03/02/2008

Nice to see you folks really critiquing what has gone on in the last 2 debates. I thought maybe I was being slanted in my own assessments.

It's kind of shameful, as the media has all but buried her.

Too bad America has such a short memory as it was the media who helped give us George Bush. Used to be that Dems here at HuffPo could recognize that. No more. They're just running on emotions and not logic. It's split our party and it could lose the election come November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 02/29/2008

I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN THIS STARTED THEY TRIED TO GIVE US HILLARY. THE PROBLEM IS SHE BELIEVED SHE WAS THE INEVITABLE CANDIDATE AND DIDN'T DESIGN HER CAMPAIGN VERY WELL. AND ITS THIS SAME MEDIA WHO ARE SELLING HER AS A FIGHTER THAT YOU CAN'T COUNT OUT, BUT IF THIS WAS THE OTHER CANDIDATE THEY WOULD BE DEMANDING HE WITHDRAW FROM THE RACE. IN MY OPINION THE MEDIA ARE STILL TRYING TO FORCE HER DOWN OUR THROATS JUST IN A DIFFERENT WAY.SHE WAS NOT COMPLAINING WHEN THE MEDIA WAS TELLING HER THE RACE WAS HERS TO LOSE.AND SHE IS NOW GIVING THEM THE AMMUNITION TO USE AGAINST HER. SHE WITH ALL HER EXPERIENCE SHOULD KNOW BETTER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 03/02/2008

YES I believe it will send life long democrats over to the other party. I have never voted Republican in my life, but that may be about to change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 03/01/2008

I agree completely. But unfortunately, Clinton would probably lose to McCain - due to the rabid Hillary haters of both parties- and Obama might probably win against him.

Edwards would have creamed McCain, but the media chose these two for us. Edwards, the candidate, wasn't as exciting a story as the half-Black man vs. the former first lady. That's the story they were aching to tell, and that's what they did.

Nice democracy we got here. It's for sale, incidentally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 02/29/2008

I think that either Democratic candidate could beat McCain. It is the Democrats race to lose this time around. Everyone is so sick of the past 8 years. Hillary has the advantage I believe since she is familiar with world leaders and was in the White House for 8 years watching how things were done. She would be a formidable opponent for McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 02/29/2008

Exactly, the problem, media types that do show a bias toward male candidates and then say we have no idea what you are talking about when it is pointed out. Of course these 2 don't get it, that is because they both do it. I have also noticed in the debates when it is a question Hillary generally does better on or a subject that she is more popular on, after Obama answers they try to ask a different question to her, or add to it, change it in some way so she can't really hit on her message but has to go in a new direction to answer. I have noticed it several times, when Obama 'scores a point' they move on and stop her from trumping him. They did it twice in the last debate.
The fact is the repugs got scared on 9-11, they didn't want to look scared so they started this fear campaign to scare all of us too. That is the bases of fear politics.
This election has proven to me there is one thing the repugs fear MORE than the terrorists, and that is losing to Hillary Clinton. If it could break the repugs out of their mantra of WAR< WAR< WAR then I say they NEED to lose to her. They need to snap out of it, it has been over 6 years. John McCain is the perfect example of a repug that is totally stuck in his fear. He is so scared he just wants to attack. We need Hillary to set them back a peg or 2 and snap them out of it. This fearmongering war is the only answer crap is bad for our families, our country and the world. I think it would pay back a few of them for how thye lied and decieved, and who has more stake in finding out what Bush was really up to than Hillary. I have no hope that Obama will find out all the stuff Bush did, if anyone can get to the bottom of all Bush's lies it will be Hillary...I think she might enjoy having the shoe on the other foot for a change. Who will bring them to account...Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 02/29/2008

Speaking of Brian Williams, I"ve hesitated to bring up the following issue since it sounds"even to my ear"slightly conspiratorial. It also tends to give more credence to a network comedy show than it deserves. But, something"s been bugging me since October" the week that a certain anchorman (whose work I normally respect a great deal) hosted both a Democratic debate and NBC"s "Saturday Night Live."

This week, I"ve been reminded of my nagging feelings-- and think they may now be germane-- given the amount of talk devoted to the most recent episode of "SNL." Among the questions we"ve heard in recent days: "Was it appropriate for Tina Fey to use the b-word?"¦ "Can you believe Clinton referred to it during the debate?"¦ "Why wasn"t an African-American member of the cast assigned to play Obama?". . ."And,uh¦.who exactly is in the cast these days? Is Brad Hall still on the show?"

By comparison, very few questions were raised about the episode of "Saturday Night" hosted by none other than "BriWi" (I"m told that"s the way the cool kids say it) back in late October, despite the fact that there was an interesting confluence of events that caused me to question the integrity of both NBC and (forgive me, Brian!) even of Williams himself. Allow me to press the re-wind button on the political TiVo.

That week"s debate in Philadelphia"hosted by Williams and his scowling cohort Tim Russert" happened to be among the more contentious of the campaign. Most famously, it is the debate when Hillary Clinton stumbled on the question of drivers" licenses for undocumented immigrants. (It is perhaps worth noting that this question was asked of Sen. Clinton during what was labeled the "Lightening Round" of the debate--- a sophisticated test of forensic skills which, although it was eschewed during the Kennedy-Nixon debates of 1960, was employed by NBC during its 1980s daytime game show "Card Sharks.").

Despite the fireworks, the debate ended on a light-hearted" if slightly bizarre"note: with Williams asking Sen. Obama the following:

"Tomorrow, of course, is Halloween. You will go as what?" That was the actual question of a network anchor to a candidate for the Highest Office in the Land. (I went back to the transcript to make certain.)

Let"s now fast-forward to the "cold opening" of that week's Saturday Night Live, where Barack Obama "unmasks" himself at a Halloween party hosted by the "Clintons". Upon doing so, Obama is given the opportunity to remind people (both by unmasking himself and by delivering his earnest line: "I'm not going to change just because it's Halloween...") what a genuine guy he is.

Brian Williams did not appear in the scene, but did deliver a strong performance throughout the show, ending the broadcast with a shout-out to Obama and musical guest, Feist.

I"ve had a question since then" one which I never heard asked of Williams: It"s a variation on the Howard Baker question ("what did Brian Williams know and when did he know it?"). Did Williams know that Obama had been approached about being on the show? Did Williams know about the concept for the opening sketch? And, if so, was that question to Obama was a "set-up"...to sell the joke when it was used on the SNL broadcast?

My hope and instinct both tell me that it was not deliberate. After all, I really like Williams as a journalist. But, even if Williams is absolved of guilt for setting up the skit with his question" I have yet to hear anyone try to pry from BriWi what the hell his question to Obama was all about?

Magnifying the importance of this topic is the fact that this was no ordinary debate. I think a case can be made that this was a game-changer-- the moment when the press began taking a second look at Clinton, which then fed a spate of stories which followed in the weeks ahead.

Her complaint during this week"s debate in Texas would have been better timed if it had occurred immediately following this debate. A review of the Philly debate would show not only that she received the lion"s share of questions during that debate (few of which were introduced without Russert"s editorial commentary putting them in what he deemed their "proper" context, i.e.: "Sen. Clinton, this question goes to your integrity..."), and that many of the questions posed to other candidates (Biden in particular) were attempts to solicit comments about her. (For the record"Russert"s last question to Obama: whether he thought there is life on other planets.)

Anyway, I"d be curious to get your thoughts on this. Thanks a lot.








    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 02/29/2008

Lordy, what is the point of this slightly incoherent rant? Your suggestions at some conspiratorial connection between BW and SNL was just dumb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 AM on 03/01/2008

This is really interesting. I did not think twice about the Hallowe'en question coming up in the debate and in SNL - since the show was on Nov. 3rd it's a natural theme -and I would guess that Obama was booked prior to the debate (though I don't know). When I saw Barack Obama walk out during the first scene my first thought was to wonder about perceived bias from the neutral newsman-host. (I know, media nerd.) I ended up writing a column about it that got absolutely no attention: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/05/barack-and-briwi-forget-_n_71058.html ("Barack and BriWi: Forget About Gravitas, What About Bias?). It was more about the appearance of bias and the fact that HRC was portrayed sort of negatively (every character thought she was dressed as a witch when she was a bride; except Obama, who told her she was a lovely bride). It also noted that HRC had been scheduled for a walk on during the season premiere but it hadn't worked out. All that said, I don't think BriWi would in a zillion years have compromised the integrity of the Philly debate in any way, nor his role. He's pretty scrupulously on the fence and is very ostentatiously straight and narrow - he says his family doesn't even know how he votes. I do, however, agree that there was some underscrutinized synchronicity there, and I also agree that HRC got hammered in that Philly debate though the excuse of everyone around that time was, that's what happens to frontrunners.