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This is a shame. It always looks bad for Israel, when one of their people gets killed and they kill a hundred people in response, but I understand the palestenians fighters use civilians as shields.
I just wish the Israelis would build a fair and decent wall, then I wouldn't have any more complaints. I used to be more sympathetic to the palestenians, but what can the Israeli's do, except stop land grabbing and build a far wall.
They'll have to do it unilaterally, but if they built a reasonably fair wall and kept all the palestians on one side, I'd support it. Not if they build it as cantons though. Is that really necessary?
Anywyays, I mourn for all the lost lives. And hope eventually this madness can stop.
The Palestinians don't use "civilians as shields" they simply aren't able to have a fully fledged military arm to their society. For the Palestinians to have clearly demarcated military installations would be pure suicide, so instead they fight from where they can - there homes and the homes of their neighbors.
Are they right to occupy the houses of civilians? Maybe not, but they are not far from being civilians themselves.
"what can the Israeli's do, except stop land grabbing and build a far wall"
Only the Israelis never stop land-grabbing. I remember the cease-fires of the 90's, when the Israelis kept bulldozing "illegal" Palestinian constructions to make room for Jewish homes, and took every isolated incident of Palestinian terrorism as an excuse to punish the entire society - as they do today.
The Israelis have never negotiated in the good faith that they expect from the Palestinians. From the very foundation of Israel the "right" of the Jewish people to have a homeland trumped the sovereignty of the people who were already there. Why should you expect anything different today?
I've had little respect for Palestinians since the murder of RFK. The irony is that most Arabs hate the Palestinians as much as they hate Jews.
Except, as you will of course forget, that it was the Israelis who did negotiate in good faith when the nation was re-established. The deal called for them to have half the land they have now. But that wasn't good enough for the Palestinians and their neighbors, and the Arabs launched their attempt of genocide.
Fascinating how that part is conveniently forgotten by the Jew haters here.
What a steaming pile of idiocy! According to you, the Israelis kill 100 (I say 20-40) Palestinians for every 1 Israeli killed, steal the Palestinians land and have built a wall on Palestinian land that isn't "fair," yet your sympathy lies primarily with the Israelis? Are we living in the Twilight Zone?
Palestinians land? Where is that exactly? Gaza was Egypts and the West bank From Jordan. Why don't you ask Jordan to give up land Since that is where Palestinians where living? I know, then there will be no reason for Hamas to bomb Israel?
Interesting how none of the Israel bashers are complaining about the hundreds of rockets being launched into Israel. Perhaps this has led to the recent violence.
Perhaps because the Israelis have a policy of killing 10 Palestinians for every 1 Israeli that is killed.
That is such a bogus argument and typical when you can not defend Hamas bombings. Maybe Hamas should stop the rocket attacks.
Another 3 dead just now and 6 children dead too . in Breaking news (6 children from the same house )
67 palestinians have been killed for the last 4 days , 117 injured , 17 dead are children , and countless of devasated homes and houses and agriculatural land . while the UN is debating what to do with Lebanon . sickening . there is no UN , UN is America and Israel FULL STOP .
Israel is bieng bombed daily from Gaza what do you propose they do sit back and die. Giving up Gaza was suppose to stop the violence, we see how that is working.
Many have put their Arms down to Please Abbas in the westbank , and were promised to be safe , 6 have been Killed in cold blood by the IOF in the westbank (nablus and jenin ) this week , there are NO ROCKETS being used from the westbank .
Homes are being destroyed in jerusalem, NO rockets either .
the rockets are simple retaliation to the Daily crimes against the Palestinians . Hamas have offered TOTAL Ceasefire from Both sides, israel is Not interested . Gaza is being targeted from the land , sea , air and ground , the gates are locked , they cant sell their produce and make money , no donations , no salaries, no fuel , no clean water , no electricity , no gas , noi Petrol , this is total Genocide with the FULL cooperation of the coward Arabs too . (im Arab )
Exactly how can you have a "cease-fire" if only one side is expected to actually "cease-fir
ISRAEL PULLED OUT OF GAZA TWO YEARS AGO..HAMAS TAKES OVER CAN'T LEAVE IT ALONE AND SENDS ROCKETS INTO ISRAELI TOWNS ,WHAT DO THEY EXPECT WHEN ISRAEL RESPONDS ,HAMAS DOES'T HAVE THE PALESTINIANS PEOPLE INTERESTS AT HEART....
What do you YOU expect the world to think of Israel:
-when YOU answer a stone with a bomb-
-or a hand held Katyusha with a mass of cluster bomblets.
--when the answer to YOUR bountiful meal being disturbed is to shut off their incomes, their jobs, their food sources, their electric and power, bomb their homes, kill their children and make them come crawling to you begging for your forgiveness??
There is not one proud American mother or son who would not freely give THEIR lives in defiance and tell you to go f*** yourselves, under those conditions!
As a matter of fact it is OUR people that are dying and give their their lives every time YOU whine about someone else who dislikes you.
There are very few people left in the world who do, and you've worn out your welcome.
YOU get what you deserve -HATRED.
Rocket attacks against Israeli communities do not help the peace process and also can led to invasion.
Tanks and Aircraft vs Suicide bombers.
Sounds like a fair fight to me.
Not.
Only The US can force the Israelis to finally do the right thing, and stop all settler expansion, pull out all settlers, raze all settlements and stop the blockade on Gaza. This will put an end to the VAST majority of the violence.
The Israeli Palestinian has been the ENGINE of terror in the Middle east for the last 40 years, and the responsibility for it rests squarely on the shoulders of the settlers and their ultra right wing backers here and in Israel, who DO NOT even have the support of the majority of Jewish Americans or Israelis. They do, however, have the support of the US congress as the result of the activities of VERY questionable PACs such as AIPAC, 2 of whose top official stand accused of espionage against the US after a sting in which they illegally received classifies intel on Iran that they intended to use to foment war between the US and Iran.
The Greatest gift the US could give Israel would be making EVERY PENNY of support we give them conditional on quitting the settler movement and the occupation. That would also go a long way towards preventing future 9/11s.
wow, now that is a very reasonable comment. im so sick of people who will use the words anti-semite to describe people who oppose the policies of the right wing in Israel. i don't hate the people, i hate the policies. Israel is not the victim here, no matter how they would like to play it. if the settlers hadn't moved in and forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes i don't think the situation would be the same today.
not to mention the militants who fired mortars and rockets at the Israelis..
So the Israelis should send in their own suicide bombers to make it fair?
How about the Palestinians demand that Hamas stop launching attacks, and let a deal be reached? If Israel continues bombing, then they be condemned.
| March 1, 2008 at 06:59 PM