The IDF, a gay, flea-infested rodent in Southern Lebanon and a monster in Gaza.

From Democracy Now, yesterday...they played an audio clip that made my hair stand on end...


"Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak is warning of a full-scale Israeli invasion of Gaza. In what could be a first for an Israeli official, Deputy Defense Minister Matan Vilnai has threatened a “holocaust” in Gaza if rocket fire continues. Vilnai said, “THE MORE QASSAM FIRE INTENSIFIES AND THE ROCKETS REACH A LONGER RANGE, [THE PALESTINIANS] WILL BRING UPON THEMSELVES A BIGGER HOLOCAUST, BECAUSE WE WILL USE ALL OUR MIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES.” "


Holocaust? Who are these people? The casual use of this abhorrent term brings the question to the front...who the hell are these people who are preparing for the "final solution" to the Palestinian "problem"? They've created their own mega-Warsaw Ghetto...and now their going to carry out a "holocaust"?


Call me crazy, and maybe I am, but I've wondered for a long time about the militarist Zionists who sat out World War 2 in Palestine. None that I know of raised a finger to help the Jews in Europe who were suffering and dying by the millions in the real "holocaust". In a weird sense, if they were forward thinking enough, and understood history and human nature (which I believe they did), it was to their advantage to stay out of it, and do nothing to stop the Nazi's carrying out their genocidal crimes against humanity. The Zionists were militarist terrorists with a real command of strategy and tactics. They had some power then, and with creativity, which they had in abundance, could have effected some kind of retaliatory force against the holocaust (in defense of the Jewish people)...but nothing of that sort is known to have ever taken place. They sat quietly by while 6 million Jewish people were slaughtered. And that slaughter, brought worldwide condemnation of the Nazi's, and worldwide sympathy for the horrifying human tragedy that was the Holocaust. And then the world (UN) gave the Jewish people a homeland.


Could the pre-WW2 Zionists have been this cold-blooded? Did they only have their eyes on the ball, and cared little for the consequences of their inaction in regard to the Holocaust? Is it fair to say that, after decades of terror tactics, they'd lost any humanity they might otherwise have had, and only retained the hunger for the Holy Land that drove their decades of homicidal activities against the Palestinians of "Trans-Jordan"? After a time, especially involving such warlike tactics, is it too outrageous to say, they were all about the end justifying the means? And if those means involved the "sacrifice" of a portion of the Jewish people, to save the whole, and win the homeland, would it be impossible to consider they might have chosen "sacrifice"?


The Zionists set aside their humanity many times in their quest for the Holy Land...the only difference herein being the scale of the brutality, and the magnitude of the human tragedy. They'd looked the other way many times before in brutalizing the Palestinian population...this may well have been their last gambit...to do nothing, and win the prize. And for many, I think this may have been a justifiable sacrifice in their own minds, with the end being too sweet and too long desired, to avoid these disastrous means.


I think these are valid questions to ask in the face of the outrageous thing this Israeli official has said.

Boy, the powers that be certainly have us all going in the direction they want. They want us arguing over this stuff. Keep in mind:

1. The powers that be fund both sides to keep the antagonism going. They don't care who dies. This would be the banksters (war is profit) and the military industrial complex - ie arms dealers. These satanists are all flavors and religions, loyal to none except their wealth and power. They use the Jews and Arabs alike.
2. Arafat died with billions in his bank account - where did this money come from? What was he saving it for? Weren't there hungry Palestinians?
3. If the Israeli's made peace with the Palestinians, or any other Arab country, why would they need the billions the US send them every year? Where would both country's politicians skim money from?
4. With the amount of money spent on this situation, you could build a wall around whatever land the Israeli's felt like giving the Palestinians, give each Palestinian a couple million dollars, set up some infrastructure, and they could live happily ever after.
5. Solving the middle east problems would deny, not countries, but individuals who transcend national loyalties, billions of dollars in profits from oil, arms, and it would curtail black ops funding for the alphabet orgs (who are all on the same team regardless of what appears on the surface.) It's a big chess game and the first rule is to keep humanity divided. They are doing a good job at that, but more and more people are seeing through the charade and not falling for the "division" ploy any longer. We are all human, regardless of race or religion, and should live together peacefully, help one another, and work together to destroy those who want perpetual war for profit.

If Israel withdraws to its pre-1967 border, there will be peace. And Israel must do that, for the good of its own citizens, and because it is in violation of international law.

Given the current military might of Israel, withdrawing from all occupied territories would have no negative impact on Israel's security.

A question for all the commenters here: Does anyone not think that ALL of the problems in the Palestinian territories and Lebanon are not being caused by Iran and Syria?

The idea that Israel should go back to it's 1967 borders, just for a promise of peace

from the folk who want to kill them is too one sided. Negotiating for most of that land

returned on a schedule where Hamas and the PLO show real sincerity is far more

acceptable for the Israelis who would have already voted out the Likudists. The land

surrendered should not have it's Jewish settlement homes leveled out of bitter spite.

Yes Israel's apologists have a point, one would have to be decorous and understanding, so here goes: Fuck Israel.

Israel needs to be held accountable.

Nothing will radicalize a population more than a campaign of ethnic cleansing. The Israeli campaign is 60years old and has reduced the Palestinians to animals and locked them in ghettos - and now the Israeli hypocrits justify their actions because of the radical militants that they created.
So much for "Gods chosen people"... they simply say that to justify their pillaging and robbery and murder...
More proof that religion kills and the US churches are complicit...as are our politicians.

Once again I propose a very simple solution. Grant the Palestinians whatever reasonable border they demand (67 plus a 'world city for all' in Jerusalem) let the world all agree on the full nation status of Palestine.

The first Palestinian attack on Israel then becomes an act of war between nations.

END OF STORY!!!!

No more arguments about the BS.

AWWWWWWW. My heart is crying for the Palestinians. I hope the IDF kills as many of them as possible. Maybe they'll get the message that firing rockets into Israel isn't a good idea. Imagine a wolrd without the Gaza Strip!!! WHAT A NICE THOUGHT!! The majority of you are a bunch of doves who know nothing about the way the world works

Peace talks 'buried' by Gaza assault: Palestinian negotiator
1 hour ago

RAMALLAH, West Bank (AFP) — Senior Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat said the recently revived Middle East peace talks had been "buried" in the rubble of an Israeli incursion into Gaza that killed 46 people Saturday.

"The negotiations are buried under the houses that were destroyed in Gaza," Erakat told AFP. "The peace process has been destroyed because of the aggressions and the crimes that have been committed."

Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas, whose forces were driven from Gaza in June, has been in negotiations with Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Olmert since talks were formally revived at a US conference in November.

Abbas has repeatedly called on the Islamist Hamas movement that rules Gaza to halt rocket attacks on Israel and return the territory to his control.

But on Saturday he called for "international protection for the Palestinian people" while his office said he had contacted several world leaders to press for an end to the Israeli assault.

"It is unthinkable that Israel's reaction to Palestinian rocket attacks -- which we condemn -- can be so terrible and frightening," Abbas said, adding that the attacks were targeting "innocent women, children and old people."

Israel's incursion into Gaza on Saturday was the deadliest assault on the isolated and impoverished territory in well over a year and sparked international condemnation and protests across the occupied West Bank.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jT4tEfua7mpVvHvMQDALiYjPo25Q

This, it could be argued was the intent.

So, how long is Israel going to do this until they finally figure out that maybe they need to try something new? Creating their own version of the Warsaw ghetto isn't exactly the most productive strategy when it never ends the conflict and debases the nation of Israel and the Palestinians at the same time.

Regrettably it seems Israel wants no part of peace, and I must admit that this flagrant vioence over the last few weeks, as several hundred Palestinians have been murdered compared to about maybe 20 Israelis, seems to be coinciding with our election process in a weird sort of way . . .

Vast right-wing cnspiracy maybe not, but . . .

Everyone in this country, AIPAC-girl Pelosi, Empty-suit Reid, any other politician that support Israel, all American Jews with their letters and phone calls, state and federal Israeli bond tax breaks and yes even those Evangelicals who all sit back while Israel repeatedly commit war crimes are equally guilty and have the blood of all Palestinian deaths on hands.

The sooner that rogue country is dissolved the better. And those of you that support Israel who don't like that -- Tough!

It's TIME TO BOYCOTT ALL ISRAELI PRODUCTS AND SERVICES