Marion Cotillard's 9/11 And Moon Landing Conspiracy Theories

Oscar-winning Marion Cotillard was facing embarrasment with her new American public last night after it emerged that she doubted the official account of the September 11 attacks. The 32-year-old French star has swept this year's best actress awards, also receiving a Bafta, Golden Globe and a César for her performance as singer Edith Piaf in La Vie en Rose...

But the actress faces a potential backlash in the US over comments she made in an interview in France. Footage which surfaced on the internet showed her questioning the New York terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and the 1969 moon landing.

"I think we're lied to about a number of things," she said, singling out September 11.

Referring to the two passenger jets flown into the World Trade Centre, Miss Cotillard said: "We see other towers of the same kind being hit by planes, are they burned? There was a tower, I believe it was in Spain, which burned for 24 hours.

It never collapsed. None of these towers collapsed. And there [New York], in a few minutes, the whole thing collapsed."

Miss Cotillard suggested that the towers, planned in the early 1960s, were an outdated "money sucker" which would have cost so much to modernise that it was easier to destroy them.
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Turning to America's space programme, she said: "Did a man really walk on the moon? I saw plenty of documentaries on it, and I really wondered. And in any case I don't believe all they tell me, that's for sure."

Miss Cotillard, who was born and brought up in Paris, made the comments on Paris Première - Paris Dernière (Paris First - Paris Last), a programme first broadcast a year ago.

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[ObamaEdwards]

This is why the questions you ask an actress ought to be: Why did you want to be in this film? What interested you about the character? What is your next project? The End

[citizenofmars]

Yeah. Those in the public eye have NO RIGHTS when it comes to expressing their opinion on something other than (God forbid) Hollywood! Cotillard's beliefs are shared by millions of Americans. Books by David Ray Griffin and Jim Marrs, Films like 'Loose Change' and 'Painful Deceptions', and hundreds of websites make it abundantly clear that we were never given the entire story about what really hapened that day. See for yourself the evidence that changed minds like Charlie Sheen's and Rosie O'Donnell's. http:// www.question911.com is a good place to begin. She's right. Plenty of steel skyscrapers burned hotter and longer than the WTC and never came close to colapsing. There's a lot of visual evidence that bombs went off in those buildings, including testimony from many NYFD personnel. Wake up America. 911, Waco, all these mysterious 'attacks' flow from the same shady sources within our own government. Remember Iran-Contra? All the cocaine smuggling? The Democrats aren't so clean either...

[LeoMarvin]

I was going to go off on how embarrassing it is to be associated with this conspiratorial nonsense, but then I noticed your name, "citizen of mars." So I apologize for any offense I may have given with my prior remark. Please tell your leaders and your people that we wish them well, and that if thinking like yours is what passes for logic on mars, we've got lots down here who might be a lot happier up there with you.

[GoreyFantod]

Has anyone else noticed that comments are being removed from this post AFTER having been approved and posted by the moderators? What's up with that?

I understand that the moderators may not approve a comment & therefore not allow it to be posted, but why this retroactive deletion? Threaded comments that I read two hours ago are now gone... are there competing moderators?

I'm going to post this to the new "Community Blog," also and see if there's a response.

[HatingTheGame]

Yeah, I've noticed that too. Weird.

It could just be glitches, but as Philip Dick tells us a glitch is just a tear in the fabric of reality.

Or it could be that the moderators are crafting their own record of what they want this thread to read. So they are taking their jobs as "editors" and editing the publicly spoken record.

Now that wouldn't be such a bad thing (who couldn't use an editor or two in their blogging existence), but that does sound a bit... what's the word...???

Orwellian?

[GoreyFantod]

Well, I've had a few of my comments either taken down or never displayed since posting this yesterday.

I don't think the moderators are conspiring against HuffPost readers, I'm guessing it has to do with the changes they've been making to the layout. However, it is frustrating for me to not know why. If I have violated the guidelines in some way, I want to know because it isn't my intent. I've read & tried to adhere to the commenting guidelines and I try to make an additional effort to avoid commenting with anger or insults (I won't pretend I'm always successful with the latter).

The worst for me is that having some comments appear but not others renders the give-and-take of dialogue with other HuffPost readers nearly impossible.

[NicoleAnonymous]

That has happened to me also. The strange thing is that sometimes they will delete something really harmless that isn't offensive or bad.

[LeoMarvin]

HuffPost's Pick

If people flag a comment as abusive it gets looked at a second time, and sometimes it's removed. That said, there have always been inexplicable appearances and disappearances, out of sequence posting delays, etc. Moderated boards are just a guaranteed pain in the ass. I don't think it's the moderators' fault. Look at how many idiotic comments they have to vet. There are bound to be some glitches.

[Bystander]

I guess they have moonbats in France too.

[WLA]

They had Vichy too. Like you.

[WLA]

And sheep.

[LeoMarvin]

"too?" That's where moonbatism was invented.

[freefromUS]

By patronizing others, do you feel more like a man? A repub? That's just the problem today with you arrogant gullible couch potatoes. Where are the WMD's?

As as for the conspiracy, it is not a conspiracy that the WTC collapsed on it's own. I know not one engineer that can prove a collapse of this magnitude without the use of explosives.

Either believe lies used to promote war and destroy our economy, or believe the truth and do something about it.
You still buying gas for $3.50? Do you travel outside the US and need to exchange dollars? Think!!!

[HappyHumanist]

Whenever some nutcase spews crap about a conspiracy around 9/11 or the moon landing, this blog routinely brings out the conspiracy theorists who deny what they see with there own eyes.
Folks, we really landed on the moon. Thousands of people worked on the process. We are still getting data from the moon from a laser we set on the surface. No one associated with the landings blew anyone's cover. We landed on the moon. Several times. Brought back rocks. Lots of them.
The WTC towers collapsed as we watched. After two large planes slammed into them. Flown by Saudi terrorists who practiced flying, but not landing. The towers collasped from the heat weakening the brackets holding the floor supports. It wasn't an "inside job". We were attacked by Saudi terrorists.

Now, nothing I just wrote will be believed by the nutjobs. They prefer to live in a delusional world where the government is out to get them.
And, for the record, I am as liberal as they come. I am also someone who prefers my reality to come with science and reason.

[martinchill]

tasty kool-aid.

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"I am also someone who prefers my reality to come with science and reason."

that's a false statement, given your position on why the towers collapsed.

"The towers collasped from the heat weakening the brackets holding the floor supports."

if that were true, then the cylindrical 'core' of the towers should have remained standing while the floors collapsed like 45s on a turntable spindle. nice try.

[RebelPatriot]

we have Martian rock samples being studied by scientists - does this mean we've been to Mars and back? even robotically?

[Derek]

Unlike the moon landing, no one disputes that 9/11 was a conspiracy. The question is simply who were the conspirators. If believing in a conspiracy makes one a "nutjob" then we all are nutjobs, which may well be the case.

An objective, scientific mind would remain open to possibilities that you attempt to dismiss through name-calling. Your argument speaks of science and reason yet provides none. Painting those who disagree with the "nutbag" brush is hardly the voice of science and reason.

[GoreyFantod]

Well said. Thank you for making a well-reasoned, thoughtful response to a mean-spirited, narrow-minded comment.

[BlackWidowPilot]

Happy,

let me give you a street cop's definition of *conspiracy*:

Two or more knuckleheads get together and agree to knock over the corner liquor store.

People are convicted of *conspiracy to commit a crime* every day in American criminal courts.

If its two idiot drop-outs conspiring to grab the cash in a liquor store till, why shouldn't a group of rich, venal old white men get together at their hunting lodge and conspire to grab for as much money and power as they and their flunkies can get their withered degenerate hands on?

Crime IMHO is dirty, and polictics can alwayss be dirtier still.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

[TequilaMockingbird]

and Lord Knows.. The Govt. and witnesses NEVER LIE....

[HappyHumanist]

"why shouldn't a group of rich, venal old white men get together at their hunting lodge and conspire to grab for as much money and power as they and their flunkies can get their withered degenerate hands on?"

They can. Some do. But, as with all real conspiracies (like Gulf of Tonkin), the truth will out. No one can keep their mouths shut for long. Crooks routinely squeal on each other.

No one has "squealed" about 9/11 or the Moon Landing.

[5150]

I saw the Stars and Stripes waving proudly on the Moon's surface even in the absence of an atmosphere. A proud American needs no further proof.

[MrsGreebers]

The flag had twine in it to create the appearance of waving. Nice try, though.

[Bystander]

I guess they left open the doors to that huge movie sound stage on a windy day. Ha!

[BeyondKen]

I saw them too. Thing is, as soon as the astronaut lets go, it stops moving.

[LeoMarvin]

Doh! What a buzz kill you are!

[AnotherTry]

I would love to know what Barack's take on this is. Will he call for an independent investigation?

Hell no, because he is just another yes man.

[LeoMarvin]

You guys must have been wetting yourselves over the thought of a President Kucinich: The first occupant of the White House to be abducted by aliens and live to tell about it from the Oval Office.

[Joeblue]

Did'nt say he was abducted only that he saw a ufo just like millions of people including heads of state, police and firemen.

[sassafra]

my brother walked out of a church in manhatten, looked up and watched a tower fall.
as a graduate student in the late '70's, i worked on samples of moon rocks from the apollo missions determining their chemical properties.

Cotilliard is a deluded gasbag.

[RebelPatriot]

You know, there are also samples of Martian rocks on the earth being studied by scientists.

When did we send a return trip mission to Mars?

Oh yeah.....

your argument sucks.

[HatingTheGame]

"as a graduate student in the late '70's, i worked on samples of moon rocks from the apollo missions determining their chemical properties."

Yes, and wasn't it amazing how their properties were just like rocks found on Earth. Meaning, the moon must have come out of the earth, or bombarded by the same asteroids and meteors.

What a finding! Did they give you a doctorate for that?

[martinchill]

she's french, as well - but i bet she can spell manhattan.

[HatingTheGame]

"as a graduate student in the late '70's, i worked on samples of moon rocks from the apollo missions determining their chemical properties."

Yes, and what did you find? That they had the same composition as rocks on earth, since the moon either tore off from the earth, or got hit with the same meteor showers.

What does that tell us?

[RebelPatriot]

Not to mention all the lunar samples available on earth that traveled from meteorite impacts on the moon.

the same way that Martian rocks got here too.

[sassafra]

i imagine the thrust of your question is :"how are moon rocks different from earth rocks?".
yes, they have fairly much the same composition in many respects, where they do differ however, is in a very telling manner. they exhibit in their outer layers an abundance of an isotope of helium called helium-3 which is caused by enormously long exposure of the rock to the sun's solar wind in the absence of a protecting magnetic field such as earth's
helium 3 is very rare on earth..

[faust2001]

The only people that are unwilling to question the "official" story about 9/11 are Republicans and their psychologically-abused spouses, the Democrats. Now THAT'S embarrasing.
What drives the 9/11 "conspiracy theorists" is not certainty over what happened on 9/11, but disbelief that something that catastrophic could happen and the people responsible for allowing it to happen were never held accountable. Not only that, they were allowed to use it as an excuse to overturn the Constitution.
Pardon me if I don't take the government's word for it.

[noonchild]

YES!
Anyone at all familiar with the details (or lack thereof) of the 9/11 tragedy, and the PUBLICLY STATED goals of the Project for a New American Century, would know that the simplest answer here is that there was some form of complicity and/or outright involvement by our government. It was just too good to be true for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. - of course, all of the evidence that could have led us to a scientific conclusion about the lead-up to this tragic event has been deliberately destroyed, so we may never know. That to me is the biggest case for large-scale complicity on the part of this crimial administration - that they literally bent over backwards to hide every facet of this affair from the scrutinizing eyes of an objective public.
Everyone knows the story, but I'll say it again - George's brother Marvin Bush (who was the Security Chief for the WTC) called off the bomb-sniffing dogs for the 2 days prior to the attack, which would have been plenty of time for the demolitions to be set up. I have yet to hear any attempt at an explanation for why this was done.
Vis-a-vis the explosion the point is that scientifically, the melting point for the steel used in the towers may have been reached, at certain points, hypothetically, but the reality is that not enough steel was recovered from the site to support the theory that it just 'melted'; so it much have reached a much higher 'disintegration point' temperature, which is cosistent only with a demolitions scenario. To boot, the footage supports this - if you look at the towers falling, so can see a ripple effect of small explosions from the top down, about 2 seconds before the towers fell; survivors also have testified that they heard small explosion before the fall.
Couple that with the fact that Deutche Bank/Alex. Brown made A LOT of money shorting United and American Airlines stock, and it sounds like a conspiracy to me.

[LeoMarvin]

If I didn't know they've got their own crackpots (e.g., the Clintons killed Vince Foster), I swear this insane crap could make me vote Republican.... Nah, probably not, but just getting me thinking about it is bad enough.

[HatingTheGame]

The beauty of the big lie, is that over time, through repetition it becomes common knowledge, such that if anybody questions it, its clear they are either a crackpot of a commie. Great world leaders from Nappy Napoleon to Atta Boy Adolf to Good ol' Georgie know that very well...



Of course the Spanish blew up the USS Maine! So what if yellow journalism fed war fever! Remember the MAINE! I remember that well, just like it was yesterday!



Of course the native Americans died of smallpox. How they got it I don't know! We gave them all the blankets they needed, they should have been warm. Who knew what they were laced with?



Of course the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and FDR had no clue about it. A complete surprise, who would have known?


Of course we landed on the moon after just a decade of space technology development realizing that the Russkies were kicking our ass.. Its got to be true, I sat up and watched it on the tele myself, and those that didn't get to see it, heard it on the radio. It was just as real as the Mars Attacks radio program that Orsen Wells did. Soooo realistic.



Of course we were attacked at the Gulf of Tonkin, why else would be ramp up our bombing, and proceed to kill a million more people? Its got to be true.



Of course the USS Liberty was sunk by enemy fire, why would the Israelis shoot at us. They like us. We're their friends!



Of course Private Jessica was heroic, fighting off so many Iraqi terrorists and rapists. She's a hero!



Of course Pat Tillman was killed by those rag head Afghans. What do you mean friendly fire? Fire can't be friendly! If it fires at you, of course its unfriendly!



Of course 19 Arabs whose names weren't even on the passenger manifest, and many who turned out to be alive, and who didn't know shit about flying planes, fooled the greatest military power on earth, and took down three impervious buildings. Why else would we spend a trillion dollars in national treasure, and the hearts and minds of our fighting men and women to attack Iraq? Makes perfect sense to me...


Of course of course of course...



As that great philosopher and tremendous southern intellect Gomer Pyle so often said:


Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!


The mantra of the true believers.

[amanda85]

Of course Gladio/Stay Behind was just a "commie" invention. It would have required THOUSANDS of people to keep such a big secret and we all know that's impossible right? Yeah, that's why every leftist in Europe who dared to talk about Gladio/Stay Behind was immediately labeled as a nutcase cospiracy theorist...
Well, at least until the whole thing came to the surface (thanks to a **SINGLE** whistleblower named Francesco Cossiga) and every politician in Europe finally acknowledged the truth. BTW, the same guy (Italy's former President and a very respected CONSERVATIVE politician) has voiced his shocking (for American conservative simpletons, of course, anyone who uses a minimum of critical thinking isn't shocked at all...) opinions on 9/11:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/120407_common_knowledge.htm

Sooooooooooooooo, the guy who revealed Gladio/Stay Behind to the world is the same guy who openly claims 9/11 was an inside job...
Please, go ahead and label him as a crazy man, that's a lot easier than trying to use your own brain...

[HatingTheGame]

"Man who set up Operation Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA, Mossad"


Well the only way to prove (or disprove) that is to look at all the records of the spook agencies, from the CIA, to DIA, to NSA, to... you name it, and of course Mossad. That will tell us everything.


Well, we just have to ask Mossad for their records, and I'm sure they'll give it to us.


As for the American alphabet spooks, well let's see, where were they based? Where would they run an operation like this... let me see....


Oh yeah, WTC7!


From the NYT, Nov 4 2001: (reposted at http://wtc7.net/cache/wtc7.htm)

"WASHINGTON — The Central Intelligence Agency's clandestine New York station was destroyed in the Sept. 11 attack on the World Trade Center, seriously disrupting United States intelligence operations while bringing the war on terrorism dangerously close to home for America's spy agency, government officials say.

The C.I.A.'s undercover New York station was in the 47-story building at 7 World Trade Center, one of the smaller office towers destroyed in the aftermath of the collapse of the twin towers that morning. All of the agency's employees at the site were safely evacuated soon after the hijacked planes hit the twin towers, the officials said."


Gee, who the fuck would have guessed??


"All of the agency's employees at the site were safely evacuated" -- and told to keep their mouths shut, for national security, and for fear of being branded a terrorist sympathizer, and of course, a threat on the life of a spouse or child or two...



And what does it matter that WTC7, not particularly damaged, was "pulled" by Silverstein (his words) and corroborated by Guiliani (his words), and that the BBC, probably reading a fax coming out of their teletex giving them the spin, announced the collapse of WTC7 while it was standing, and then video taped it collapsing 23 minutes after they announced it.


And who the fuck cares that WTC7 also housed a whole lot of Securities and Exchange investigations into financial malfeaseance by dot com crooks and criminals, including the Enron investigation. And all that data was lost, and millions of dollars worth of investigation down the tube, and evidence gone. Oh well, let's let the bastards go, can't prove a thing!


All that mattered that the war on terrorism saved us from a massive recession caused by the raping of the American people by the dot com charlatans. Thank gOd for the massive government spending on the war, that saved us -- at least until now, when we have to pay the reaper.




Surprise surprise surprise!


Don't believe the big lie!

[TequilaMockingbird]

I have a Blog Crush on you...

[amanda85]

Just a small note to my American friends: Marion's views are very much **MAINSTREAM** outside of your country. The only people in the world who believe the US government 9/11 conspiracy (now THAT's a conspiracy theory with no proof whatsoever...) are American conservatives, be it republicans or democrats (reality check: most democrats are conservative.) You're blinded by your silly patriotism, the US government official story has more holes than a wheel of Swiss cheese. We don't believe in any particular conspiracy theory, we're just SKEPTICAL of the nonsense told by the US government because it makes no sense whatsoever.

[LeoMarvin]

Which part?

[SunshineDaydream]

surely you jest!!

[GoreyFantod]

Here's a sample of the many holes in the official story:

- WTC building #7 (extra-reinforced home to the NYC Emergency Command Center and a CIA office, among others), collapsed due to fire and debris from WTC buildings 1 & 2.

- All U.S. air defenses failed simultaneously.

- Passengers on Flight 93 directly caused the airplane's crash and/or the hijackers crashed the plane into a field to prevent it being crashed by the passengers.

- President Bush was acting as Commander In Chief on Sept. 11, not Dick Cheney.

- President Bush saw the first plane hit the WTC as it was happening.

- Despite more than an hour of advance warning, Pentagon personnel didn't know there was a plane heading for the Pentagon and none of the Pentagon defenses (SAMs, etc.) were deployed.

- The U.S. military was conducting multiple simulations and readiness exercises which involved multiple hijackings at exactly the same time as the real hijackings.

There are a lot more, but those should do, for now.

[JMEB]

You can be a brilliant actor, and a complete moron otherwise. Tom Cruise and Sarah Jessica Parker, I believe, have proven that. Just add Cotillard to the bunch.

[LeoMarvin]

Sarah Jessica Parker? What did I miss?

[coolrepublica]

I'm sure she is a nice lady. But until last week no one, I mean no one knew who the heck she was. So why should I start to care today what the F she thinks. She could believe Elvis is alive somewhere in Idaho for all I care.

[LeoMarvin]

Well that would be ridiculous. Elvis never goes to Idaho.

[Blurp]

Good for her. Conspiracy theories my ass... Anyone with half a brain can look at Shanksville and see that THAT was not the crash site of a 767. Period. Ipso facto.

[TheMadScientist]

Well, I'll just invoke Occams razor: The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. The problem with the conspiracy folks is that there are SO MANY different versions of the story, and none of them make a lick of sense to me. And the biggest problem of all is, if the planes didn't hit the Pentagon or the field in PA, then what happened to all those passengers? Were their identities and back-stories all just made up? Were they secretly landed at an air base and executed? I mean, I hate the idea that a well organized group of Islamic extremists caught us with our pants down, but it's a helluva lot easier to believe than this huge conspiracy in which THOUSANDS of people would have had to collude and keep quiet in order to pull it off.

And no, I'm not a troll. I'm a progressive, just like the rest of you, and it sickens me that I get lumped with all of you conspiracy freaks!

[amanda85]

"it's a helluva lot easier to believe than this huge conspiracy in which THOUSANDS of people would have had to collude and keep quiet in order to pull it off."

I'm pretty sure you're unaware of the Gladio/Stay Behind conspiracy. It involved THOUSANDS of people in Europe and it remained a closely guarded secret for **FOUR DECADES**. It was basically only through the confession of a SINGLE MAN (Francesco Cossiga, former President of Italy, a man who had worked in the European intelligence community for decades) that the whole story became public. Of course once in a while a leftist was talking about it, and conservatives like you would immediately label him/her as a nutcase, conspiracy theorist etc.

In other words, your assumption that thousands of people colluding in a big crime is an impossibility crashes and burns against the REALITY of history...

To the huffpo moderators: this comment contains no profanity, no personal attacks and it doesn't violate the posting policy. Same as many others of my messages you have censored. Stop claiming you don't stifle opinions because it's exactly what you do.

[AJFOXY]

Thousands, yet the U.S govenment claims only 19 pulled it off. It's sad you drink the Washington Kool-aid. You need the red pill to wake you from your trance. I make no conclusions but to accept the Offical CT's which do not answer all the questions many have regarding 911 is a kind to waving a white flag in the face of tyranny. What we need is new independent investigation.

[LeoMarvin]

The persuasive logic of Occam's razor eludes the mentally ill and the true believer.

[GoreyFantod]

How does Occam's Razor account for the entirety of American Air Defense systems failing all at the same time on the same day?

I'm an agnostic and a trained scientist. I don't believe the official explanations advanced by the government or the alternatives posed by others - one can reject one belief system without the need to substitute another. At any rate, Occam's Razor is a guide, not a law. If it were some sort of hard and fast rule then the simpler Newtonian physics would work equally well in all dimensions and Relativity Theory would never have been needed.

For example, the Bush/Cheney Administration would have us believe that, to the extent that accelerated global climate change is occurring, it's a natural, cyclical phenomenon. I'm quite capable of rejecting the official government explanation without insisting that there is one single, alternative explanation, like coal-fired power plants. I think it's coal-fired plants AND the widespread use of fossil fuels in cars, aircraft, home heating, etc. AND toxins produced by the absurd numbers of animals we raise for meat AND the destruction of forests all over the world AND atmospheric & above-ground nuclear tests over the last 60+ years, etcetera, etcetera.

We need to progress beyond simple dualisms & reductionistic thinking if we're ever going to repair the world.

[eyecon]

"How does Occam's Razor account for the entirety of American Air Defense systems failing all at the same time on the same day?"

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Simple. The entirety of American Air Defense systems DID NOT fail all at the same time on the same day. That is complete fiction. The Defense Department did not come into play until AFTER AA-11 crashed into the WTC.

[TheMadScientist]

Hey, I've got some X-files box sets for sale on eBay. Sound's like they'd be right up your alley. Fight the power, and watch out for those awful toxins, maaaaaan.

[wtf]

No sense arguing science with the mad scientist. I am trained in science too, but most posters here do not want to argue science, but rather anything else so they can continue to believe the big lie.

All the science education you need is high school physics. How can wtc fall at nearly free fall speed in a very symmetrical fashion from a few asymmetrical fires and no plane impacts? The science points to controlled demolition.

See ae911truth for more science.

[noonchild]

Yes, sadly, as the theory goes, at least two planes full of passengers were off-loaded into a hanger and no one on those planes came out alive. Scary stuff. Knowing how full of lies this administration is, is it that hard to believe?

[LeoMarvin]

Actually, yes.

[Staying1776course]

(cont'd) I no longer care about these cat fights because there's a much larger issue of greater world violence, wars, and hatred.

[Staying1776course]

This response above was my conclusion of a longer post that didn't get posted (I have pets who walk in front of my screen). With the US-French cool relationship, I thought it unfortunate, inappropriate, and provocative to use US examples of what to doubt in truthfulness. Being an ecologist as well as an actress, Cotillard might have chosen the truthfulness of global warming which would have been a better and more timely example for discussion in the interview. There's been too much said about this 32-year-old's comments and so I happily leave this arena.