Ahmadinejad: US Fueling Iraqi Violence

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QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA and JOHN AFFLECK | March 2, 2008 05:29 PM EST | AP

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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, left, and his Iraqi counterpart Jalal Talabani hold hands during a welcome ceremony in Baghdad, Sunday, March 2, 2008. Ahmadinejad arrived Sunday in Baghdad for the first-ever trip by an Iranian president to Iraq. (AP Photo/Hadi Mizban)

BAGHDAD — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on an historic trip to Baghdad Sunday that America fueled the violence in Iraq, portraying his nation as a close friend of the neighbor it once fought in a bitter eight-year war.

Ahmadinejad, the first Iranian president to visit Iraq, disputed U.S. allegations that Tehran is training and equipping Shiite militias there. The American presence, he said, was responsible for drawing terrorists.

"The Iraqi people do not like the Americans," Ahmadinejad said at a press conference with U.S.-backed Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in the Green Zone _ the heart of the American diplomatic presence.

"Six years ago, there were no terrorists in our region. As soon as the others landed in this country and the region, we witnessed their arrival and presence," Ahmadinejad said Sunday night after meeting Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, the leader of Iraq's largest Shiite political bloc.

The trip by Ahmadinejad, who once fought Saddam Hussein's Sunni-dominated regime as a member of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, was a dramatic illustration of one of the unintended consequences of the 2003 U.S. invasion _ the replacement of Saddam with Shiite forces closely allied to the cleric-led Islamic republic next door.

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, a Sunni Kurd, greeted Ahmadinejad with an honor guard and a band that played both countries' national anthems. The two held hands at the red-carpet welcome ceremony in a traditional display of friendship. Talabani told Ahmadinejad to call him "Uncle Jalal," as he known in Iraq's Kurdish north.

Talabani said he and Ahmadinejad discussed economic, political, security and oil issues and planned to sign several unspecified agreements.

"We had very good talks that were friendly and brotherly," Ahmadinejad said. "We have mutual understandings and views in all fields, and both sides plan to improve relations as much as possible."

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Then he cut through the Green Zone to visit al-Maliki in his Cabinet offices.

The sprawling, American-controlled zone contains a massive new U.S. embassy and is heavily protected against occasional rocket attacks, which the Americans have blamed on Iranian-backed Shiite extremists.

Ahmadinejad denied the charges at least twice during the day.

"Such accusations increase the problems of the Americans in the region," he said.

Al-Maliki said Ahmadinejad's visit was "an expression of the strong desire of enhancing relations and developing mutual interests after the past tension during the dictatorship era."

About 1 million people died in the catastrophic war that erupted after Saddam invaded Iran in 1980. But when Saddam's regime fell to the U.S.-led invasion and Iraq's Shiite majority took power, long-standing ties between the Shiites of both countries flourished again.

Ahmadinejad said he was "very pleased with his visit to an Iraq not ruled by a dictator," and stressed that Iran wanted a stable Iraq that would benefit the region.

"A united Iraq, a sovereign Iraq and an advanced Iraq is to the benefit of all regional nations and the people of Iran," he said.

He announced the dates of his visit in advance, landed at Baghdad International Airport in daylight and drove through the capital, albeit in a heavily guarded convoy, on a relatively quiet day. Iraqi forces provided security.

President Bush's visits are typically a surprise and involve trips to U.S. military bases, like his journey to an air base in Anbar province last September.

Bush said Saturday that he had advised al-Maliki to tell the Iranian leader to "quit sending in sophisticated equipment that's killing our citizens." And the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, came to Baghdad unannounced to visit with commanders and Iraqi officials.

Rear Adm. Gregory Smith, a military spokesman, said Sunday that the U.S. hopes the Iranian-Iraqi meetings produce "real and tangible results," which in the American view would include Iran ending its alleged training and funding of extremists.

Iraqi officials have said in recent weeks that they don't want the country torn apart in a power struggle between the U.S. and Iran.

Hundreds of protesters gathered in Fallujah, the scene of two battles between U.S. troops and Sunni insurgents, and demonstrated for an hour against Ahmadinejad's visit.

"The chieftains of Fallujah condemn the visit of Ahmadinejad to Baghdad," one of their banners read. Another 50 people demonstrated against the visit in northern Kirkuk, and tribal chieftains in the country's Shiite-dominated southern region signed a petition against the visit.

Adnan al-Dulaimi, one of Iraq's most influential Sunni politicians, called for restraint. He said the visit indicated the strong Iranian influence in Iraq but hoped it would decrease tension between the two countries.

"We call upon the United States and Iran not to make Iraq a field for their struggle," he said.

BAGHDAD — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on an historic trip to Baghdad Sunday that America fueled the violence in Iraq, portraying his nation as a close friend of the neighbor it on...
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- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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Elect McBomb and the whole world will be holding hands, and we'll be the only ones missing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 03/02/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 386 fans permalink
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"He's a neighbor. And the message needs to be, quit sending in sophisticated equipment that's killing our citizens," Bush said.

So if I get this straight, the Iraqis supposedly were building enough sophisticated WMDs to destroy Western civilization but they don't know how to build a shaped charge. Only those wily Persians know how to do that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 03/02/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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Yup! Right after we invaded, all Iraqis turned into idiots, all their engineers, doctors, professors, everybody. It was a virus that did that.

I heard they are now going over ancient Chinese scripts to figure out the composition of gun powder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 03/02/2008
- cognate I'm a Fan of cognate 8 fans permalink

And why wouldn't he call it a brotherly visit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 03/02/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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Iran is winning in Iraq without firing a single shot.

Thanks, Dubya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 03/02/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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But they have speed boats that buzz our Navy, that is an act of war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 03/02/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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And ‘Filipino Monkey’ is the biggest threat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_Monkey

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 03/02/2008

No lorn, it's not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 03/02/2008
- Boobaloo I'm a Fan of Boobaloo 30 fans permalink

Iran is winning in Iraq without firing a single shot.


Exactly, HumeSkeptic.

The Shia went from barely a blip on the Iraqi landscape to running the government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 03/02/2008
- TimN I'm a Fan of TimN 19 fans permalink

The Iraqi Shi'a are not Iranians. What's your point?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 03/02/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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I love the photo, 2 middle eastern fellows holding hands,it demonstrates unity, but where is dumbya ? he's a hand holder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 03/02/2008
- NotWaldo I'm a Fan of NotWaldo 44 fans permalink
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Bush only holds hands with Sheiks. He thinks it''s CHIC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 03/02/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 03/02/2008
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LMAO. Thanks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 03/02/2008
- aristippe I'm a Fan of aristippe 13 fans permalink

Genius

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 03/02/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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Obama had said that Iran would be the biggest beneficiary of this fraud called Iraq war.

Barack Hussein Obama was spot on.

President Barack Hussein Obama of the united States.

Man that is music to my ears. Wouldn't it be nice to have someone intelligent in our White House?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 03/02/2008
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Yup. He's been saying that exactly. W. doesn't have that sense of irony, does he?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 03/02/2008

It's iover. let's declare victory and go home. The Shi ites will take care of Al Queda. The Sunnis will take care of the shiite heads. Time to bail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 03/02/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1568 fans permalink
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Way overdue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 03/02/2008
- TimN I'm a Fan of TimN 19 fans permalink

"Obama had said that Iran would be the biggest beneficiary of this fraud called Iraq war."

Really? When did he say that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 03/02/2008
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Yesterday, you schmuck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 03/02/2008
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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With Barack we will get the truth of what is going on around the world. With McCrazy we will get more death, more debt and more hatred towards America. It is a clear choice this fall. More of the same with McSame of a foreign policy that does not make us hated around the world and less safe for it. McCrazy 100 more years of occupation is based on two false assumptions.

1. Iraqi's will never accept permanent bases in Iraq and the violence will continue. In fact in February the attacks were up by 35%. The British were smart enough to know to get out of Iraq something like 80 years ago but McCrazy will bankrupt America over a stubborn Bush failed policy.

2. Iraq is considered holy land by every Muslim. As long as we have permanent bases in Iraq they will try to attack America because we are seen as infidels on their holy land. One of the main reasons that Bin Laden attacked us on 911 was because we set up permanent bases in Saudi Arabia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 03/02/2008
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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Not to mention the Brits getting out of Basra while America keeps its forces there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 03/02/2008

That is really no great revelation. Anybody with two eyes and half a brain can see that Iran is is benefitting.
So are you saying Hillary is dumb, as your last sentence suggests?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 03/02/2008
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American international policies have been about supporting international corporations

and have harmed the people living in many countries, increasingly so, in Muslim ones.

Now we have the Crusade for Muslim Resources raging from Africa across to Malaysia

and the likely winner in the Neocons push for energy dominance is Communist China.



All this is sadly and terribly ironic since we are borrowing trillions of dollars from China

while they are offering those same Muslim countries more favorable deals and many of

the weapons their nationalistic insurgents need to resist our colonialist expansionism.

Besides, China is no longer Communist, it is a totalitarian state that uses forced labor to

work the factories that make all the crap we go to Wall*Mart to buy in a sick, vicious cycle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 03/02/2008

Well, Iran's hegemony over Irag is almost complete. Thanks to George Bush and trillions in American taxpayer dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 03/02/2008
- Curt I'm a Fan of Curt 65 fans permalink
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Iraq could cost as much as 3 trillion dollars before 2010.
However we as a nation will be paying the real cost of bush's clusterfuck extravaganza for generations.
Our currency has become the peso of the 21st century, thus insuring that oil will be traded in Euros.
Bush has borrowed 1.7 trillion dollars from Communist China, the interest payments on this debt goes toward modernizing China Military.
Iran is now a very powerful Arab state. Plus this administration's policies has pushed the price of oil over the hundred dollar mark, bringing a windfall to Tehran.
Osama Bin-Laden is still free.
OSAMA BIN-LADEN IS STILL FREE!!!! and bush has given him a recruitment wet dream by invading Iraq.


Everyone who bush has called evil and a threat, besides Saddam has done nothing but benefit by bush policies.
There are forecast of recession and even depression as a result of the bush residency.

Repukes claim bush has keep us free of terrorism, yet everyday there is another mass shooting in a mall, school, or church.

Osama Bin-Laden outlined a certain "wished for" outcome as a result of the attacks on September 11, 2001
So go ahead repukes, you haven't quite meant all of h goals, but you are pretty damn close.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 03/02/2008
- TimN I'm a Fan of TimN 19 fans permalink

Consider Iran's recent past. Its closest allies have been Syria, Venezuela, China, and North Korea. Never before has Iran had a friend that also shared its border. Iraq could be that friend and the US could engineer that friendship. We're still a long way off but this is the beginning of a monumental shift in Mideast geo-politics. Iran could enjoy a real sense of security and Pax American could extend itself beyond its current home in North America, South America, Europe and the Far East. Such would be the culmination of American/Iranian relations since the Reagan era.

Then Africa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 03/02/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Gee. Seeing as we have done everything that we could to isolate them, who do you think their allies would be? They did not have a very large circle to find friends in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 03/02/2008
- TimN I'm a Fan of TimN 19 fans permalink

Okay, why did Saudi Arabia isolated them? the UAE? the ex-Soviet states? Turkey? Afghanistan? Pakistan?

Iran has enormous securit concerns. The US had always intended on creating a Shi'a dominated Iraq. Why do you think they did that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 03/02/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 386 fans permalink
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So long as our policy towards Iran is regime change (and it is) they have no reason to talk to us. They're not going to negotiate themselves out of existence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 03/02/2008
- bIgTeX I'm a Fan of bIgTeX 2 fans permalink

So how long before Bush tries to take credit for this one.. he is such a dumb ass!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 03/02/2008

This what Mccain and fellow Republicans defintion of Winning in Iraq...How many Americans are going to notice this contradiction. CNN news barley reported this and Russert never mentioned it on Meet the Press..Out­rageous..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 03/02/2008
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The 15 monkeys guarding the main threads won't let anyone through. I'm missing something, isn't a blog site suppose to be about, blogging ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 03/02/2008
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What is up with HuffPo? Comments are either not being posted or there are huge delays...y­esterday over 500 were pending at one point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 03/02/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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I dunno, but lornejl is not pleased.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 03/02/2008

somehow, WaPo can post responses in literally seconds. Why shoud it tak HOURS here?
I want my instant gratificat­ion,dammit­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 03/02/2008
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Bush didn't know what he was getting into when he ordered the illegal invasion of Iraq. He rolled the dices, we all know that. The world is just too complex for him. Now, he's just trying to save face before he leaves.

The next president will have to reevaluate the whole situation. He will need help from people who know about the complexities of the Middle East. The new policy regarding Iraq should be : no more bullshit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 03/02/2008
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