Chavez Warns of War With Colombia

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IAN JAMES | March 2, 2008 11:05 PM EST | AP

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In this picture released by Miraflores Press Office, Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez, left, speaks during his weekly broadcast "Alo Presidente" in Caracas, Sunday, March 2, 2008. Chavez ordered Venezuela's embassy in Colombia closed and sent thousands of troops to the countries' border Sunday after Colombia's military killed a top rebel leader. At background, Venezuela's Interior Minister Ramon Rodriguez Chacin. (AP Photo/ Miraflores Press Office)

CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez ordered tanks and thousands of troops on Sunday to the border with Colombia, accusing it of pushing South America to the brink of war by killing a top rebel leader on Ecuadorean soil.

Denouncing Colombia's slaying of the rebel commander in a cross-border raid into Ecuador, Chavez said Venezuela will respond militarily if Colombia violates its border. He ordered Venezuela's embassy in Bogota closed.

"Mr. Defense Minister, move 10 battalions to the border with Colombia for me, immediately _ tank battalions. Deploy the air force," Chavez said during his weekly TV and radio program. "We don't want war, but we aren't going to permit the U.S. empire, which is the master (of Colombia) ... to come divide us."

Chavez called Colombian President Alvaro Uribe "a criminal" and branded his government a "terrorist state," likening it to Israel for its U.S.-backed attacks on militants.

In protest, Ecuador withdrew its ambassador from Bogota, ordered Colombia's top diplomat expelled and ordered the mobilization of troops to the border with Colombia.

Ecuador's president, Rafael Correa, said Colombia deliberately carried out the strike beyond its borders. "There is no justification," Correa said Sunday night, snubbing an earlier announcement from Colombia that it would apologize for the incursion.

Colombian officials have long complained that Ecuador's military does not control its sparsely populated border, allowing rebels to take refuge.

The same holds true for Venezuela, where rebel deserters say the guerrillas routinely rest, train, obtain medical care and smuggle drugs. Chavez denies that his country provides refuge to the FARC.

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In a statement, Colombia said FARC "terrorists" including Reyes "have had the custom of killing in Colombia and taking refuge in the territory of neighboring countries."

Correa said the rebels were "bombed and massacred as they slept, using precision technology." He said Colombia violated Ecuador's airspace when it bombed the rebel camp, which the Colombian military said was located 1.1 miles from the border.

Ecuadorean soldiers recovered the semi-nude bodies of 15 rebels in their jungle camp. Soldiers stood guard at the site, saying they also found three wounded women, who were evacuated by helicopter to be treated. One was a Mexican philosophy student injured by shrapnel, while the other two wounded guerrillas were Colombians, an Ecuadorean army officer said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to journalists.

Ecuadorean officials found that there were two bomb attacks on the camp early Saturday, Lt. Col. Jose Nunez told reporters in the remote village of Angostura, where the bodies were found.

Colombian commandos removed the cadavers of Reyes and one other rebel.

Chavez called the raid "cowardly murder, all of it coldly calculated."

"This could be the start of a war in South America," Chavez said. He warned Uribe: "If it occurs to you to do this in Venezuela, President Uribe, I'll send some Sukhois" _ Russian warplanes recently bought by Venezuela.

The situation tested already tense relations between Venezuela and Colombia, though cross-border trade has not yet been seriously affected.

Chavez did not specify how many troops was sending to the border. A Venezuelan battalion traditionally has roughly 600 soldiers.

"Undoutedly the recent actions on the part of Colombia and Venezuela's response raise the risk for armed conflict," said Miguel Tinker Salas, a Latin American studies professor at Pomona College in Claremont, California. "Although it is unlikely we will see military confrontations, what is clear is that Colombia has been pursuing a military solution to its own internal problem, ... drawing in Ecuador and Venezuela."

Chavez has increasingly revealed his sympathies for the FARC, and in January asked that it be struck from lists of terrorist groups internationally. But he has denied

The leftist FARC has been fighting Colombia's government for more than four decades, and funds itself largely through the cocaine trade and kidnaps for ransom and political ends.

Reyes was the FARC's key interlocutor with journalists and with foreign governments trying to mediate in the conflict, and thus the member of its leadership most vulnerable to being located, though eavesdropping or other intelligence.

Chavez said that with U.S. support, Colombian troops "invaded Ecuador, flagrantly violating Ecuador's sovereignty."

U.S Embassy spokeswoman Suzanne Hall, in Bogota, declined comment on the possibility of U.S. involvement, saying it was a Colombian government operation.

In Texas, U.S. National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said of Chavez's latest moves: "This is an odd reaction by Venezuela to Colombia's efforts against the FARC, a terrorist organization that continues to hold Colombians, Americans and others hostage."

How exactly Reyes was killed was not immediately clear.

Colombia's defense minister, Juan Manuel Santos, said Colombian commandos, tracking Reyes through an informant, first bombed a camp on the Colombian side of the Ecuadorean border. He said the troops came under fire from across the border in Ecuador and encountered Reyes' body when they overran that camp.

Colombia and Venezuela have been locked in a diplomatic crisis since Uribe sought in November to halt Chavez's efforts to mediate a prisoner swap. The FARC has since freed six hostages to delegates of Chavez, including four released last week.

The FARC has demanded that a safe zone be created in Colombia to negotiate a swap of some 40 high-value captives, including former presidential candidate Ingrid Betancourt and three U.S. defense contractors, for hundreds of imprisoned guerrillas.

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Associated Press writers Frank Bajak and Vivian Sequera in Bogota; Gabriela Molina and Jeanneth Valdivieso in Quito, Ecuador; Diego Norona in Angostura, Ecuador; and Sandra Sierra in Caracas contributed to this report.

CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez ordered tanks and thousands of troops on Sunday to the border with Colombia, accusing it of pushing South America to the brink of war by killing a top ...
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someone please explain to me the difference between this outrageous claim that even terrorist organizations is no excuse to abstain from "violating the sovereignty" of another nation, and what these illegal immigrants do to the US?

I mean, if its such a crime for a nation to defend itself in the face of coward terrorists, protected by a coward government, by crossing a border into a nation that undisputably harbors and funds their actions again you, is it not also a crime to violate the US sovereignty by allowing the ILLEGAL immigration of so many people? i might as well, then, consider every illegal alien as an enemy combatant, fighting againt the US economy by sending all "their" money back to their host nation.

i hope Chavez gets what is coming to him. either a war, or an assasination. either one is just fine with me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 03/07/2008

Chavez:

Bring it. Why don't you send your troops to the US border and see whats up? Oh whats that? No? Thats right, you're a coward. You steal technology from foreign corporations. You rebuff nations in your local area that only wish to spread order. You bring aweful dialogue to the table. All you wish to do is advance your very selfish interests using the guise of heroic socialism. We will incorporate you. All of us will assimilate, despite our language differences. If you choose to stand in the way, you will perish and be forgotten as an obstacle footnote. the current attitude toward the US reflects the strife of the general human population. Your part in it is that of an adolescent punk that rebels just to rebel. frankly, i hope you push this conflict, because I want a war that is productive. I want to incorporate a people that will appreicate what we can do together. of course, that can only happen once we get you out of the way. you repress and oppress the best minds in your nation, and you will eventually pay. latin american is full of quibbling tribes of confused power players. keep it up, it will help our economy when we take back the oil that is rightfully ours, since you would probably just use it in some backwards voodoo ceremony if it weren't for the technology that the US has come to help your people get it out of the ground with.

like i said, bring it. we will destroy your defenses. thats what i thought, all talk and no bite. your sense of entitlement reminds me of some of the nacient youth in america that we struggle with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 03/07/2008

Send this around to anyone you know, from Greg Palast. Simply amazing:

http://www.gregpalast.com/300-million-from-chavez-to-farc-a-fake/

Do you believe this?

This past weekend, Colombia invaded Ecuador, killed a guerrilla chief in the jungle, opened his laptop – and what did the Colombians find? A message to Hugo Chavez that he sent the FARC guerrillas $300 million – which they’re using to obtain uranium to make a dirty bomb!

That’s what George Bush tells us. And he got that from his buddy, the strange right-wing President of Colombia, Alvaro Uribe.

So: After the fact, Colombia justifies its attempt to provoke a border war as a way to stop the threat of WMDs! Uh, where have we heard that before?

The US press snorted up this line about Chavez’ $300 million to “terrorists” quicker than the young Bush inhaling Colombia’s powdered export.

What the US press did not do is look at the evidence, the email in the magic laptop. (Presumably, the FARC leader’s last words were, “Listen, my password is ….”)

I read them. (You can read them here) While you can read it all in español, here is, in translation, the one and only mention of the alleged $300 million from Chavez:

“… With relation to the 300, which from now on we will call “dossier,” efforts are now going forward at the instructions of the boss to the cojo [slang term for ‘cripple’], which I will explain in a separate note. Let’s call the boss Ángel, and the cripple Ernesto.”

Got that? Where is Hugo? Where’s 300 million? And 300 what? Indeed, in context, the note is all about the hostage exchange with the FARC that Chavez was working on at the time (December 23, 2007) at the request of the Colombian government.

Indeed, the entire remainder of the email is all about the mechanism of the hostage exchange. Here’s the next line:
“To receive the three freed ones, Chavez proposes three options: Plan A. Do it to via of a ‘humanitarian caravan’; one that will involve Venezuela, France, the Vatican[?], Switzerland, European Union, democrats [civil society], Argentina, Red Cross, etc.”

As to the 300, I must note that the FARC’s previous prisoner exchange involved 300 prisoners. Is that what the ‘300’ refers to? ¿Quien sabe? Unlike Uribe, Bush and the US press, I won’t guess or make up a phastasmogoric story about Chavez mailing checks to the jungle.

To bolster their case, the Colombians claim, with no evidence whatsoever, that the mysterious “Angel” is the code name for Chavez. But in the memo, Chavez goes by the code name … Chavez.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 03/07/2008
- maxfusion I'm a Fan of maxfusion 12 fans permalink

Gee, I could of sworn that Cindy Shedevil claimed he is a man of peace. Evidently I've misinterpreted her statement. Sean, where are you Sean.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 03/03/2008
- asere I'm a Fan of asere 2 fans permalink

All of you have what's going on in Colombia wrong.
The fight between the Govt. and the FARC is about DRUG PROFITS.
It"s an old fashioned Mob War that's been going on for more than 40 years.
FARC gives Hugo and Correa a cut of the action ( the Labs are in the jungles contolled by the FARC boys).
It's not personal; it'sbussiness.
The Govt. hits FARC, FARC hits the Govt.; Bada Bing, Bada Bang.
ENTIENDEN!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 03/03/2008

I hope the Colombians hand Chavez his ass..FARC is a ruthless, terror organization.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 03/03/2008

Could anyone tell this Venezuelan how war is good for Venezuelans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 03/03/2008
- Dandy12 I'm a Fan of Dandy12 2 fans permalink

Horst has it right! On the subject of oil, Lake Maracaibo is right in our back yard! There are no Islamic fundamentalists there, and we could keep the action in "our own hemisphere"! Maybe Chavez could be exiled to Cuba. This sounds like a near perfect fit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 03/03/2008
- Horst I'm a Fan of Horst 24 fans permalink

Venezuelans are always saying Yankee Go Home...but Take Me With You.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 03/03/2008

Ann Coulter better stock up - the price of Colombian dope will probably go through the roof.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 03/03/2008
- Horst I'm a Fan of Horst 24 fans permalink

America should have invaded Venezuela instead of Iraq....there's plenty of oil and Venezuelans love baseball....Iraqis not so much.

That said, a Colombia - Venezuela War should be exciting...sort a South American Luxembourg versus Belgium.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 03/03/2008

Uhg. Yeah just add more war and puppet governments, thats the American solution eh?

Chavez is right in that America is trying to break him down via Columbia. The American people cant and wont do shit about it. They dont know any better because Chavez has been turned into an insane villain by our mass media monopoly and their financial interests. Do your own research and look up the real history behind the situation instead of just saluting, suiting up and killing who ever is pointed at in accusation by our so called representative leaders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 03/03/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 153 fans permalink

Hugo, don't take the bait.

I have no doubt what so ever that secret American forces (CIA? National Security Council?) are committed to promoting a war with Venezuaila. Using the Columbians as a surrogate.

Don't put your country in a position where George W. Bush can justify another war. DON'T DO IT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 03/03/2008
- Horst I'm a Fan of Horst 24 fans permalink

It's Colombia not Columbia...clueless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 03/03/2008
- willo I'm a Fan of willo 5 fans permalink

If I was to make a guess, because I'm no authority on the subject of Columbia. It would be that our secret government agencies have a hand in this. We have a long track record of interfereing in the interanl affairs of other countries. Our government also throws huge amounts of money around down in Colubia. Supposedly fighting the drug trade, but most likely running it. Things are almost never as they appear initially.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 03/03/2008

I hope Chavez knows what he's doing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 03/03/2008

Notice how much of the rest of the world is posturing against us at the moment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 03/03/2008
- Boobaloo I'm a Fan of Boobaloo 30 fans permalink

"In Texas, U.S. National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said of Chavez's latest moves: "This is an odd reaction by Venezuela to Colombia's efforts against the FARC, a terrorist organization that continues to hold Colombians, Americans and others hostage."

Whats truly odd is that any American politician or diplomat has the nerve to label any of these groups in South America anything but American stooges seeing as we're the ones that created them, trained them and unleased them on Latin America to wreak havoc,death and suffering and that's what they've done.

School of the Americas. It was the American Terrorist training ground for Latin American terrorist cells.

After 9/11, a gateway has been opened and I think most future terrorist attacks on American soil will originate in South America, our buddy Bin Laden turned on us and the murderers we trained to destroy Latin America will turn on us too and show up on our shores to get their pound of flesh.

Our foreign policy is a disaster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 03/03/2008
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So the School of the Americas trained the FARC? I think not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 03/03/2008
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Quick, someone get Sean Penn on the line. I understand he has a sphere of influence with this humanitarian and kind fellow we've all come to know, respect and love here on the left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 03/03/2008
- Moshe I'm a Fan of Moshe 217 fans permalink
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The misguided war in Iraq is a disaster on most any measure, but here is yet another: We are now so thoroughly bogged down in Iraq, and the Iraq war has already so seriously strained our financial and military equipment and personnel resources, that if an intense shooting war breaks out south of our border in Columbia (or most anywhere else), we could do little more than watch if the conflict were to spread. We are too busy "peace keeping" in the war we started unnecessarily in Iraq to act here closer to home if needed.

And yet we still have millions here in the U.S. that think the war in Iraq is promoting "security" here at home.

Astounding . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 03/03/2008
- atlantajoe I'm a Fan of atlantajoe 8 fans permalink

If we are not attacked then it is not our biz anyway so who cares where are troops are. Are you stating that we should send troops to Columbia? Maybe we should send troops to hugo's back yard and take his oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 03/03/2008

you put a lot of faith in "if".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 03/03/2008
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