Intense Battle

Intense Battle

New York Times   |  Elizabeth Bumiller and John Broder   |   March 3, 2008 08:54 PM


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Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama battled over national security and trade in a frantic burst of last-minute campaigning on Monday as Mrs. Clinton accused Mr. Obama of deception as new evidence of discord surfaced within her own camp.

With less than 24 hours to go before voting in Ohio, Texas, Vermont and Rhode Island, Mrs. Clinton's campaign released a sharp television commercial attacking Mr. Obama for being AWOL from his chairmanship of a Senate oversight committee on the forces fighting in Afghanistan -- "he was too busy running for president to hold even one hearing," the ad said -- while Mr. Obama's campaign counterpunched that Mrs. Clinton had herself missed important hearings on Afghanistan before the Senate Armed Services Committee last month.

The day was the latest installment in the riveting drama between two formidable, historic candidates, the first woman to be a serious contender for president and the charismatic young black man who has packed arenas across the country and overtaken Mrs. Clinton in many polls and the delegate count. Showing the intensity of the contest, officials predicted a record turnout among voters in Texas.

Mrs. Clinton, facing calls from some Democrats to get out of the race should she perform poorly on Tuesday after 11 straight losses, appeared almost defiant as she declared at the start of her day in Ohio that "I'm just getting warmed up."

Then she charged that one of Mr. Obama's senior advisers had told Canadian officials that Mr. Obama's opposition to the North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement, or Nafta, was largely a political tactic, not a serious policy position. Mr. Obama denied that he was sending back-door messages to the Canadians and said the Clinton campaign was "throwing the kitchen sink" at him.

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- Rocky4356 See Profile I'm a Fan of Rocky4356 permalink

Hills and Bills action in South Carolina caused them to lose their most loyal block of voters. They lost them because of perception that the Clintons were not playing fair. Doesn't she know if she continues to take the low road and win the nomination that blacks are going to stay home in droves. Beat Barack fair and square and u will have them back. Keep using the type of campaign u ar running now and u will give McCain his prize.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 03/04/2008
- DaRight See Profile I'm a Fan of DaRight permalink

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OBAMA....

The "Curious George" of the DIM party


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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 03/04/2008
- Cunningham See Profile I'm a Fan of Cunningham permalink

DaRight... Just one more racist rethuglican't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 03/06/2008
- nohat See Profile I'm a Fan of nohat permalink

Jbsouth, are you okay? And did you google that stuff about Obama and Canada? If so, what did you find?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 03/04/2008
- GhostOfSchlesinger See Profile I'm a Fan of GhostOfSchlesinger permalink

Will it work?


Probably.


Let's start with a preface.


In THIS election season, which media attacks on Hillary Clinton have been of a nature designed to destroy her in one fell swoop? Search hard. Where was the knockout punch?


If you answered that there wasn't one, you're correct.


Were the boys and girls of mainstream media immature? Yup. Were they - for reasons emanating more from a ravenous hunger for heaping platefuls of Nielson numbers than any particular political position - given to fall into the easy story of the "two firsts" and the one candidate that seemed something of a Cinderella story? Yup.


But did they assert that she was corrupt or continuously transmit a story claiming that she was a traitor? In other words, were they willing to do anything in their power to destroy her?


Nope.


You know how I know that? Because they didn't. And, if all the outsiders and naive political fans that whined endlessly about the "Hillary Haters" (a strange recapitulation of W's defenders) had actually been correct, then the media that supposedly despises Hillary would've destroyed her. Because we all know (and that includes everyone that supports Hillary Clinton AND actually knows her on a personal basis) that there's enough dirt on the Clinton's - personal, political and business - to shut them down in two quick and easy news cycles.


"But," you say, "they do hate her. It's obvious."


And you're half right. But not for the reasons you've assumed. Tucker Carlson has alluded - at great personal peril - to the real reason that the media dislikes the Clinton's - who, by the way, were the darlings of the press throughout the 1990's.


The real reason that there exists some enmity between the Clinton's and the press is that Bill and Hillary threaten careers of journalists, even call their bosses whenever a story that is not PERFECTLY in line with the instructions given the media on every Howard Wolfson conference call is published. This, my friends, is documented fact. And the difference between the Clinton's and every other candidate in the field is the fact that they actually possess the political and business clout to destroy any career with a single phone call.


Which brings me to exactly why Mark Penn distanced himself so grotesquely from the Clinton campaign. Mr. Penn, it turns out, was willing to play any card in the deck of brass knuckles politics. BUT he wasn't willing to play with a different deck - the one that consists of 52 aces of spades; the one that calls in every political marker for a single purpose - the destruction of a human being.


Now, to give Hillary and Bill sufficient moral credit, they were willing to do anything to avoid taking out this particular deck. But, having failed to accomplish their ends by all conventional means, they have chosen the obvious (and sickening) option of what we shall see over the days and weeks to come - the most sweeping and coordinated series of attacks on a human being in recent political memory. And, remember, even in the darkest days of Clinton White House, the press was NEVER unified in this particularly dark fashion (though the Republican Party most certainly was).


So now the press that was apparently biased against Hillary has unleashed, in a remarkable unison, every single smear story previously reviewed (in the case of Rezko, there was a six month investigation that revealed "no legal or ethical wrongdoing on the part of Senator Obama). Steve Croft actually asked Hillary if she thought Obama was a Muslim. She answered in the negative, but left a few lawyerly threads hanging to create the intended effect. Then there's the communications with Canada (Hillary's folks have done the same, as has EVERY political candidate during EVERY campaign that deals with sensitive trade issues).


You see, the bias that's observable only by squinting and reading between the lines is one thing. Deliberately going about the business of destroying a human being is quite another. Perhaps you are noticing the difference. Then again, perhaps you are willing to watch the dogs attack, thinking, "Well, it takes what it takes." (Problem is, such a systemically corrupt fourth estate represents a threat to all of us.)


So, most of us will just watch, which is probably all we can do anyway. For, they've sold out on this one. And getting in the way of this sort of machine is very much akin to laying down in cornfield in the path of an approaching combine. (Here the title of Daniel Day Lewis's latest effort comes to mind.)


In short, they will accomplish their end regardless of our protests. Indeed, if they play this dark deck with the expertise one would expect, very few will among us will question the fact that the superdelegates "have done their solemn and sad" duty in nominating Hillary before Denver.


But those of few of us that know what's happening will join a rising chorus of Americans that have lost all respect for the institutions that are supposed to represent us - the government, the political parties, and the fourth estate.


And it is the press that those not yet dead from the neck up will most revile.


For, our friends in the now-defunct field of journalism have chosen Hearstian yellow as their favorite color. So much so that we may soon be reduced to watching "news" that consists of "political reporting" produced for the sole purpose of manipulating the electorate into decisions made for us long before the first ballot is cast; true crime splatter coverage that glorifies infamy; and an endless procession of sexy celebutante sleaze - all designed to convince of us of the existence of a "Great and Powerful Oz" that reminds us to "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."


Oh, wait, that's what we've been doing all along.


Fade to black.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 03/04/2008
- nohat See Profile I'm a Fan of nohat permalink

NOHAT EXPLODES

I was just about to ask everyone to tone it down a little, fearing that blood would be spilt, when I came upon something that made me blow my stack, never mind which post. I am slow to wrath but I have limits.

I am sick and tired of the Hillary Hounds on this site saying that Obama supporters are hateful and that this just shows what kind of hateful candidate Obama is. This is a spurious charge. it has nothing to do with him, and everything to do with Hillary---and her trusty sidekick, Bill. I've seen, on this site, attacks on Obama supporters that have curled my hair.

As for this being a radical, left-wing, Obama-pushing site, I don't believe it. It's just that there are maybe more of us than there are of you---o Hillary Hounds. You talk of how we have made Obama a messiah? What about you, with your belief in the divine right to rule, provided the ruler is Hillary?
What, you can be fervent about your candidate, but we can't???

There is much at stake---everything, really---and may the best man win!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 03/04/2008
- CommieKazi See Profile I'm a Fan of CommieKazi permalink

no matter what happens today
its gona go to the dem convention
thats when it gets real nastyy
dems gona fight like they shoulda been fightin al-Qaida
and theyre still gona lose
hellooo pres MCCain!!!
hehe
buhbye now!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 03/04/2008
- JaneC See Profile I'm a Fan of JaneC permalink

Learn how to spell you poor brain damaged troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 03/04/2008
- HumeSkeptic See Profile I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic permalink

I doubt there was ever any there to damage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 03/04/2008
- NoMoreHawks See Profile I'm a Fan of NoMoreHawks permalink

Obama will become the nominee.....this is good news for anyone who thinks another 100 years in Iraq will cost too much!

Obama can walk and chew gum at the same time...the man taught CONSTITUTIONIAL LAW for crying out loud!

The good people in TX and OH will finish this thing up today and the Clinton camp can use her remaining funds to BUY a FREAKING CLUE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 03/04/2008
- HumeSkeptic See Profile I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic permalink


I expect Obama to increase his delegate lead from about 150 to 180 tonight.

Remember, even if the lead remains unchanged, it goes up as a percentage of remaining number of delegates up for grabs after today.

A 30 delegate move either way is a big move, given the fact that delegates are awarded (more or less) in the same proportion as popular vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 03/04/2008
- kcforshort See Profile I'm a Fan of kcforshort permalink

Worst case scenario...Hill's snarling, desperate tactics of lying & mud-slinging gets her victories in TX & OH today...netting her a small delegate gain. Obama will then be free to take the gloves off and return to his own effective stance as a fighter (vs. the newly minted inevitable one).

You can bet that he'll start (rightfully) reminding folks of how the crooked establishment wants to hang on to power at all costs while AGGRESSIVELY calling the Clintons out on character, lobbyist ties, etc. that feed DC conflicts and hurt the American people's chances of solving real problems...and I think it will resonate precisely because he's taken the high road up until now...but even voters who have urged him to stay cool in the past don't expect him to take this latest round of Clinton BS. Judging by today's blog comments, she is p*ssing off a lot of folks who tried to give her the benefit of the doubt--permanently.

So, no matter today's result...Obama's in good shape to close out the next few states convincingly enough for the superdelegates to intervene. I can't see them standing by for much longer to watch the likely Dem nominee's chances be weakened because hurts them as well. So, no matter Hill's posturing & 2012 motivations, this has to end sooner rather than later.



    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 03/04/2008
- JaneC See Profile I'm a Fan of JaneC permalink

Obama will take the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 03/04/2008
- DaRight See Profile I'm a Fan of DaRight permalink

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We will keep Hillary's momentum ALIVE....

I am a Republican voting for Hillary this morning....


Obama is JUST a Chicago politician.....


MUST KEEP DEM FIGHT ALIVE!.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 03/04/2008
- NoMoreHawks See Profile I'm a Fan of NoMoreHawks permalink

If new polls suggest Hillary is leading in Ohio with 68% of the women vote, and she wins its primary 52-48%, what's the point? She still loses! So, keep the argument going until we come to our senses? How's that going to happen...Hillary speeches? By the time Hillary gets to Puerto Rico 100% of people everywhere will vote for Obama. Keep Hillary in the race, I'm enjoying this pitiful candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 03/04/2008
- DaRight See Profile I'm a Fan of DaRight permalink

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I am a Republican....Voting for Hillary in Ohio......


I will need to have a long shower and a good cry........


MUST KEEP DEM FIGHT ALIVE......

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Obama is JUST a CHICAGO politician.....

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 03/04/2008
- ErnestineBass See Profile I'm a Fan of ErnestineBass permalink

Ever bother to think for yourself, DaRight?

Of course not...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 03/04/2008
- rollingdivision See Profile I'm a Fan of rollingdivision permalink

Wear your tin foil hat with grounding cable. Please be aware of the lightning hazard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 03/04/2008
- butchie65 See Profile I'm a Fan of butchie65 permalink

DaRight, just goes to show you a Repug can't think for themselves. They need Rush to tell them what to do. You wonder why the country is in the shape it is. You need more than a long shower to get that slime off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 03/04/2008
- HumeSkeptic See Profile I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic permalink

I agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 03/04/2008
- JaneC See Profile I'm a Fan of JaneC permalink

Of course you're right. ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 03/04/2008
- JaneC See Profile I'm a Fan of JaneC permalink

Of course you're right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 03/04/2008
- DaRight See Profile I'm a Fan of DaRight permalink

.......

You are a robot...you'd burn a house down for ELF.....

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 03/04/2008
- JaneC See Profile I'm a Fan of JaneC permalink

Good luck with that one you poor desperate fool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 03/04/2008
- repubstheirownworstenemy See Profile I'm a Fan of repubstheirownworstenemy permalink

I wonder how long before Huffpo takes away our powers of moderation? BJ's replies are getting scuttled by the minute.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 03/04/2008
- BushJustdrivesdemscrazy See Profile I'm a Fan of BushJustdrivesdemscrazy permalink

Cheers, from your Texas brothers-in-arms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 03/04/2008
- NoRepresentation See Profile I'm a Fan of NoRepresentation permalink

Since Billary is so fond of those little fear ads I have one for you also. In Nov we have two options. One John McCain, two Barack Obama. All the polls say that Hillary loses in Nov, IF she is the nominee. So yes please vote for Hillary we all need 4 more years like the previous 8.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 03/04/2008
- HumeSkeptic See Profile I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic permalink

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Hillary"s main message now is negative: Obama and his supporters are "cultists" who believe in "hope" and "Yes we can¦" and nothing else.

For thinking people, "Hope" is not some miracle that a sky-God will come and save us all.

To rational people, "Hope" means that if we do the right things, and work hard to achieve our goals, "We Can" achieve our goals.

To rational people, "Yes we can ¦" is not an incomplete sentence. It is a "prefix" to:

Yes we can

Stop the war and have peace
End discrimination
End poverty.
Stop corruption
End hunger
Repair the environment
Have universal healthcare
Make education affordable
Solve the energy problem
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No, Obama cannot possibly deliver all that. No one can. But what"s wrong in making progress in each? What"s wrong in thinking that we can make progress?
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Sure, we need plans to do all that. And Obama has offered ideas and plans, some very detailed, on how "we can". For example, look at his healthcare plan. Not detailed enough? Just because you might not agree with it doesn't mean that he didn't offer details.

Somehow, some are stuck with the slogans, and fail to understand the meaning behind the slogans. They are the ones who are clueless, not the well-educated and the well-informed who understand what it all means, and are willing and excited to make it come true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 03/04/2008
- JaneC See Profile I'm a Fan of JaneC permalink

Why does bettyjo lie so much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 03/04/2008
- HumeSkeptic See Profile I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic permalink

Habit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 03/04/2008
- BushJustdrivesdemscrazy See Profile I'm a Fan of BushJustdrivesdemscrazy permalink

Jane, Jane, Jane...you're playing a game (that you can't win).

As Dan Ackroyd once said on SNL, "Jane, you ignorant slut!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 03/04/2008
- HumeSkeptic See Profile I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic permalink

He's just utterly depraved. And a pervert, of course.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 03/04/2008