Obama Denies Assuring Canada on NAFTA

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First Posted: 03- 3-08 09:32 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:46 AM

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UPDATE: Canada's parliament took up the issue of Obama's position on NAFTA today, with Liberal leaders angrily accusing conservative Prime Minister Steven Harper of helping to leak documents that misinterpreted Obama's position. Harper distanced himself from the memo released by the Canada's Chicago consulate. Watch it:

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SAN ANTONIO — Barack Obama said Monday that his campaign never gave Canada back-channel assurances that his harsh words about the North American Free Trade Agreement were for political show _ despite the disclosure of a Canadian memo indicating otherwise.

According to the memo obtained by The Associated Press, Obama's senior economic adviser told Canadian officials in Chicago that the debate over free trade in the Democratic presidential primary campaign was "political positioning" and that Obama was not really protectionist.

The adviser, Austan Goolsbee, said his comments to those officials were misinterpreted by the author, Joseph DeMora, who works for the Canadian consulate in Chicago and attended the meeting.

In Carrollton, Texas, Obama told reporters: "Nobody reached out to the Canadians to try to assure them of anything."

Asked why he had appeared to deny a report last week that such a meeting had taken place, Obama said: "That was the information I had at the time."

The original report by CTV in Canada suggested an Obama emissary had reached out to officials at the Canadian Embassy in Washington. Embassy officials artfully denied any such contact had been made with them.

As it turned out, the meeting took place in Chicago instead, with Canadian Consul General Georges Rioux and DeMora taking notes.

Obama said that one of his advisers had been invited by someone at the consulate to visit and discuss trade.

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"The Canadian Embassy confirmed that he said everything I said on the campaign trail," Obama asserted.

"We think the terms of NAFTA have to be altered" to strengthen environmental and labor protections, he said.

The memo says: "Noting anxiety among many U.S. domestic audiences about the U.S. economic outlook, Goolsbee candidly acknowledged the protectionist sentiment that has emerged, particularly in the Midwest, during the primary campaign."

It went on: "He cautioned that this messaging should not be taken out of context and should be viewed as more about political positioning than a clear articulation of policy plans."

Goolsbee disputed the characterization.

"This thing about 'it's more about political positioning than a clear articulation of policy plans,' that's this guy's language," Goolsbee said of DeMora. "He's not quoting me.

"I certainly did not use that phrase in any way," he said.

NAFTA is widely opposed in economically depressed Ohio, which holds its presidential primary Tuesday and is a battleground between Obama and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Clinton said Monday that Obama's campaign gave the Canadians "the old wink-wink."

"I think that's the kind of difference between talk and action that I've been talking about," Clinton told reporters while campaigning in Ohio. "It raises questions about Senator Obama coming to Ohio and giving speeches against NAFTA."

Both candidates said in a debate in Cleveland last week that they would use the threat of pulling out of NAFTA to persuade Canada and Mexico to negotiate more protections for workers and the environment in the agreement.

The memo obtained by the AP was widely distributed within the Canadian government. It is more than 1,300 words and covers many topics that DeMora said were discussed in the Feb. 8 "introductory meeting."

Goolsbee "was frank in saying that the primary campaign has been necessarily domestically focused, particularly in the Midwest, and that much of the rhetoric that may be perceived to be protectionist is more reflective of political maneuvering than policy," the memo's introduction said.

"On NAFTA, Goolsbee suggested that Obama is less about fundamentally changing the agreement and more in favour of strengthening/clarifying language on labour mobility and environment and trying to establish these as more `core' principles of the agreement."

Goolsbee said that sentence is true and consistent with Obama's position. But he said other portions of the memo were inaccurate.

In a statement, the Canadian Embassy expressed regret on how the discussions have been interpreted.

The statement said "there was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA."

Goolsbee said the visit lasted about 40 minutes, and perhaps two to three minutes were spent discussing NAFTA. He said the Canadians asked about Obama's position, and he replied about his interest in improving labor and environmental standards, and they raised some concerns that Obama sounds like a protectionist.

Goolsbee said he responded that Obama is not a protectionist, but that the Illinois senator tries to strike a balance between the economic struggles of working Americans and recognizing that free trade is good for the economy.

"That's a pretty ham-handed description of what I answered," Goolsbee said of the memo's description of "political positioning." "A: In no possible way was that a reference to NAFTA. And B: In no possible way was I inferring that he was going to introduce any policies that you should ignore and he had no intention of enacting. Those are both completely crazy."

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UPDATE: Canada's parliament took up the issue of Obama's position on NAFTA today, with Liberal leaders angrily accusing conservative Prime Minister Steven Harper of helping to leak documents that misi...
UPDATE: Canada's parliament took up the issue of Obama's position on NAFTA today, with Liberal leaders angrily accusing conservative Prime Minister Steven Harper of helping to leak documents that misi...
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I am disgusted by the actions of Clinton campaign. She knows that the Canada story in bogus, that Senate sub committees don't have any power and that Obama has explained his association with Rezco. She will do anything to win, even take down a someone like Obama in the process. I expect this of republicans but I hold democrats to a higher standard. They say we are famous for having a circular firing squad during elections. Appears they are right. Based on what I have observed of her actions during this primary season, I will sit out this election if she is the nominee. I could not in good conscience vote for Hillary Clinton

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 03/03/2008

He lied about the meeting, he said it never happened and then he said it did. He had no information, and then he did.
And as I said earlier:
Well he sure should have known about a meeting of his chief economic advisor and a Councilor General of a foreign government. Does he tell his people "Go ahead and have meetings with other governments, talk about policy and other stuff and then get back to me when you feel like it."
I don't think so.
Hey, my post about the head prosecutor on the case being the same one who qent after Libby vanished - It's a plot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 03/03/2008

You are truly ignorant. First of all Goolsbee is an advisor and was on a tour unrelated to the Obama's campaign. During his visit he was asked a question about Obama's position on NAFTA. Goolsbee made his comment in a discussion lasting roughly 5 minutes.

It's the Canadian government personnel who wrote the memo and gave his interpretation of what the conversation was about, then leaked it to the Canadian press.

Obama didn't know anything about the meeting of Goolsbee, because Goolsbee was on a trip that had nothing to do with his campaign. Do you think Obama is suppose to keep track of the whereabouts of all his advisers who have other jobs? You are being ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 03/03/2008
- jackstpaul I'm a Fan of jackstpaul 10 fans permalink

A lie is when someone says something they know to be false. One can say something false without knowing it to be so. That's what Obama claims is the case.

Is it really so difficult to believe that Obama--and others in his campaign--didn't know about a meeting that ONE of his MANY advisers adn/or others involved in his campaign had in an area of their professional expertise? All (other than Hillary's campaign) acknowledge that the guy was invited by the Canadians to come talk, that the topic wasn't NAFTA itself but economic policy in general, that NAFTA came up as one issue, and that the guy didn't say what Clinton, you et al claim he said.

If Obama was going to lie it is much more likely that the lie would be "he didn't say that." Not to deny a meeting that a number of people attended and which could be verified via participants and records kept. The harmful aspect of the situation for Obama—maybe; maybe the guy went off the reservation and didn’t speak accurately for Obama (is that hard to believe)—is the content of the alleged comment. Not the existence of a meeting. That would be an idiotic lie. Obama has demonstrated that he’s not an idiot, a pathetic campaigner, or desperate.

I find it much easier to believe than that multiple high-level Clinton people engaged in ad hominem smear comments about Obama a ways back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 03/04/2008

Obama made a big deal about NAFTA in Ohio where he lied when he sent out mailers saying Clinton said NAFTA is a boon to the US economy. Clinton never said that. He picked from a newspaper story written by a columnist. Now he is getting hit for lying again. Have you watched the youtube video of Obama where he plainly denied that there was even an event at the Canadian embassy? Now he is splitting hairs about what his advisor said vs. what the leaked AP memo says but no one can dispute the basic lie that he denied that there was any exchange.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 03/03/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

Excuse me -- does this mean you're upset that the press is covering the story?

Did you think the press would overlook anything questionable Obama does forever?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 03/03/2008

It is about time people start focusing on Obama's credits, and actions deserving to be in the White House. Not just platitudes of speech that result in nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 03/04/2008

Someone needs to do some serious investigation. Aren't you a little suspicious that the Rezko trial is being held right now?
Once again the media is showing its yellow under belly. The 3 cable news channels have been talking about Rezko and Nafta since this morning. Nothing else. Just as the Clintons TOLD them to. Obama lovers, we have to push back. We can't let them swift boat Obama like this. I don't know what the bottom line is supposed to be with the Rezko connection. What is the worst they are insinuating? But I do know is if you attribute the worst possible spin on that situation, it pales into insignificance when compared to whispers about the Clinton's financial dealings and so much more. So how are we going to let CNN in particular know that we are on to them and that we are not having it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 03/03/2008
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There is no there there. But continually raising the question succeeds in creating doubt, and that's what they're after. What we Obama supporters need to be careful to do is post FACTS in response to these exaggerations. Here's a couple you might find useful.

Call B.S. on the Rezko garbage with this:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a_9sOMpy91Js&refer=us

and this:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/29/171056/015

Save any links to your bookmarks folder and use as necessary.

Obama '08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 03/03/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

Excuse me -- you have it wrong -- the Rezko trial was supposed to start Feb 25. If it had your would have had over a week of Rezko stories.

One long week of Rezko-Pbama stories to sink in to voters minds.

The trial was pushed back to today -- one day of stories which most Americans will miss.

So I say the March 3rd date works to Obama's advantage, mots people will not hear about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 03/03/2008

Hey the head prosecutor on this case is the guy who went after Libby, fun times for sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 03/03/2008
- loria I'm a Fan of loria 153 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 03/03/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 03/03/2008

oh and i suppose they should just put it on hold until say? November?? and why is that??

so that obama could have a Free ride to the white house first?? C'mon.....­...get over it!

you should just go out and get yourself a big box of Kleenex, your going to need it for the party

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 03/04/2008
- bilmardre I'm a Fan of bilmardre 36 fans permalink

I believe African Americans are going to become a new swing vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 03/03/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

I just realized something ... from the article above:

Asked why he had appeared to deny a report last week that such a meeting had taken place, Obama said:

"That was the information I had at the time."

Hmmm. So that's his free pass.

However, when Hillary says her Iraq vote was based on the information she had, she gets crucified.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 03/03/2008
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She HAD the NIE. I wonder why she didn't read it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 03/03/2008

Because she wasn't voting to go to war just for pressure. Look Sen. Kerry is telling them to lay off the NIE, and bluntly Jay Rockerfella not only read the thing, he voted for the resolution and gave a stirring call for war.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/03/brilliant_obamas_not_very_bril.html
(Yeah it's "right wing - but it direct quotes his speach on the floor-okay­,okay.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 03/03/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

One more point -- Obama didn't read the NIE either -- he didn't have access to it.

He based his opinion on what someone else told him about the NIE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 03/03/2008
- SeekerOne I'm a Fan of SeekerOne 11 fans permalink
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The comparison is ludicrous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 03/03/2008
- SLone08 I'm a Fan of SLone08 5 fans permalink

She didn't read "the information she had at the time".

And that is also a ridiculous comparison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 03/03/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

Tell you what - go read the Iraq Resoultion details yourself.

And read it with the mindset you had a few months after 9-11.

And tell me if you were willing to give dictators like Saddam the benefit of the doubt:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 03/03/2008

No she made a judgment when Obama was giving speeches!!! When it came to making judgments as a Senator, Obama voted exactly as Hillary!! Anyone can give speeches when they have no responsibility!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 03/03/2008

Isn't it obvioius what happened in this whole NAFTA hubub?

The Canadians were concerned that Obama was a protectionist.

The Canadian Consulate asked Goolsby about it.

Gooslby says no, don't worry, Obama isn't a protectionist, he just wants to make sure that the treaty reflects the needs of workers and the environment too. In other words, he's a moderate. Which is precisely Obama's position.

The Canadian Consulate then writes a memo saying, in effect "Obama is only playing politcs, he doesn't really mean it."

Now, we could give the Canadian consulate the benefit of the doubt and assume that he merely worded his memo inartfully. Or we could assume that the Consulate intended to damage Obama. Either are plausibly true.

But what we cannot assume is that Obama has anything to be ashamed of in this whole affair. There is absolutely ZERO eveidence that he did anything wrong or immoral.

But one would never know that from your coverage of this story.

I've never seen such hysterical coverage over such a non-story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 03/03/2008

He Lied about the meeting never taking place
And as I said earlier:
Well he sure should have known about a meeting of his chief economic advisor and a Councilor General of a foreign government. Does he tell his people "Go ahead and have meetings with other governments, talk about policy and other stuff and then get back to me when you feel like it."
I don't think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 03/03/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 267 fans permalink

He denied a meeeting in Canada. There was no meeting Canada. He denioed what the memo said... and thats been verified.

It woudl appear the liar is in the other camp and this week failed to mention that the Canadians had denied the content of the memo for a week. It was old news.

Hopwever, I dont like either one of the canidates using the term "free trade"... I want Fair trade. Free trade as resulted in huger trade dficts and a devalued dollar going ion 30 years.

Thats moeny and jobs leaking out of our economy for 35 years.

If you had a boat that was linking this bad, you would get a new boat!


regards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 03/03/2008

Obamaniac Phylosefiser - I see you are at it again spewing conspiracy theories!! AT least you have stopped using foul language and demeaning the poor like you were doing earlier. What evidence do you have about this Canadian conspiracy? Fact is Obama's position is no different from Clinton's on NAFTA yet he sent out a mailer in Ohio trying to differentiate himself. Now it has backfired as he is caught lying!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 03/03/2008

Excellent post

OBAMA IS NOT A PROTECTIONIST , HE JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TREATY REFLECTS THe NEED OF WORKERS AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

The government in canada has done the damage. the apology on the parliment floor is too late and meaningless. It failed to clarify the issue.

Obama will have to confront this and not let himself be swiftboated. His character is being questioned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 03/04/2008
- EvoMan I'm a Fan of EvoMan 30 fans permalink

Hey Sue, What do you think about your candidate's pretty much trying to screw Senator Obama when he gets the nomination?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/01/politics/fromtheroad/entry3896372.shtml

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 03/03/2008
- EvoMan I'm a Fan of EvoMan 30 fans permalink

Crickets.

Dissing a fellow Democrat by pretty much saying the Republican is a better choice is crossing the line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 03/03/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

I'd say she's playing hardball. Just like when Obama played hardball in 1996 and hired lawyers to inspect Ill. State opponents ballot applications to see if they could find mistakes and pushed all of them off the ballot.

Quote:

Obama needed a powerful friend. He had breezed to election in 1996 by forcing all his Democratic opponents off the ballot, including a popular member of the Senate Black Caucus, incumbent Alice Palmer. That bit of hardball didn't endear him to many in the caucus

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0705030101may03,0,1225441.story

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 03/03/2008
- SLone08 I'm a Fan of SLone08 5 fans permalink

that line doesnt work

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 03/03/2008

You know last night on 60 Minutes I heard something very interesting. They asked both Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama about their stance on NAFTA.

Sen. Clinton's response was...We need to take a "TIME OUT" with regards to NAFTA. NAFTA isn't some unruly first-grader. As Senator Obama said when he was questioned­..."The other countries aren't going to take any time out..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 03/03/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

Maybe Obama should say it was a "bonehead mistake" when he said yesterday "no meeting took place." I saw the video today,

"No such meeting took place!" Words, just words, from the mouth of Obama.

Now today, Obama says , "Well, there was a meeting but my guy never said that. He NEVER said that!" Words, just words, from the mouth of Obama.

Why should we believe him today when he lied yesterday?

"Boneheaded - it was a boneheaded mistake when I said there was no such meeting. But believe me when I say, although there WAS a meeting, my guy didn't say that."

Boneheaded.

Why not? People seem to buy it with the Rezko deal.

Boneheaded mistake.

It works.

Vote Obama - our boneheaded candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 03/03/2008
- EvoMan I'm a Fan of EvoMan 30 fans permalink

It's Susan, the cherry-picking poll troll! Hi Susan!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 03/03/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

Speaking of trolls, where's your buddy, malachi7608?

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 03/03/2008
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Ignorance serves you and Hillary both quite well. Let's face it a conservative in Canada who is close to Bush may not be inclined to make sure he is telling the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 03/03/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

So that's your conspiracy theory to absolve Obama once again?

.... boneheaded.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 03/03/2008

All Obamaniacs do is characterize anyone who opposes them as ignorant, uneducated etc. and spew conspiracy theories and speculation without evidence, i.e., they cannot logically argue - they are too mesmerized and posessed by their Messiah.

What we have in front of us are facts on Obama lying about events - all you have are theories and speculation!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 03/03/2008

>>No such meeting took place!" Words, just words, from the mouth of Obama.

I believe he was responding to a question about contacts with the Canadian Embassy in Washington, which never happened.

The meeting which did happen, was a low level meet between an advisor and the local Candian consulate in Chicago.

The memo was the Canadians appreciation of what was said - the "political position" text is from them, so Obama was factually correct to deny that there had been a meeting with the Embassy and to deny that Goolsbee used the phrase "political positioning".

However, as always, the real story here is the willingness of the Clinton campaign to do anything, use anything and say anything to win and that's why their campaign is in trouble. If they spent as much time and treasure promoting Hilarys message as they do trash talking Obama, they probably wouldn't be in the mess they're in now. That goes for the candidate too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 03/04/2008
- Susan1968 I'm a Fan of Susan1968 13 fans permalink

This only proves Canada's government can be as dysfunctional as ours.

They've relaesed two OFFICIAL memos from the Canadian embassy each contradicts the other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 03/03/2008

they must of been "promised" something for their loyalties

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 03/04/2008
- GLaB I'm a Fan of GLaB 3 fans permalink

"It went on: "He cautioned that this messaging should not be taken out of context and should be viewed as more about political positioning than a clear articulation of policy plans."

Goolsbee disputed the characterization.

"This thing about 'it's more about political positioning than a clear articulation of policy plans,' that's this guy's language," Goolsbee said of DeMora. "He's not quoting me.

"I certainly did not use that phrase in any way," he said."


Why doesn't the Obama campaign produce there own notes from the meeting? Wouldn't that clear this all up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 03/03/2008
- Ides I'm a Fan of Ides 21 fans permalink

They weren't there. How do you produce notes about a meeting you never went to? Keep in mind that the consulate told CTV that there could have been a miscommunication but CTV still pushed the story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 03/03/2008
- GLaB I'm a Fan of GLaB 3 fans permalink

I hope you're being ironic.

This forum needs smilies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 03/03/2008
- GLaB I'm a Fan of GLaB 3 fans permalink

No, I see from your other comments that you really are out to lunch on this.

Read THE STORY.

"Goolsbee said the visit lasted about 40 minutes, and perhaps two to three minutes were spent discussing NAFTA."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 03/03/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 276 fans permalink

Wow, the Canadians are defending Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 03/03/2008

no, not at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 03/04/2008
- factcheck2 I'm a Fan of factcheck2 6 fans permalink

NAFTA-Gate is just the tip of the ice berg here. The fact that Canadian's conservative government held this meeting at the consulate (long before Obama has even won the nomination) gives you a clue about the Bush Administration's invovlement efforts to put Obama over the top. According to a Time magazine artice last fall, several Bush fundraisers and strategists have been working on the Obama campaign. His speechwriter Ben Rhodes is the brother of Fox VP David Rhodes. (Fox is the Rupert Murdoch network that first called Florida for Bush in the 2000 election.) And the Times of Lond reported yesterday that Obama has been interviewing Republicans for cabinet positions, including Chuck Hagel as the next secretary of defense. So much for bringing the troops home. For more on this and links to the sources I've cited here, see the article posted at thecityedition.com. Here's a direct link.

http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 03/03/2008

I think you should review Hagel's position on the war before you pursue that path.

Another Hillerite grasping at air

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 03/03/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 267 fans permalink

If you have been listening to FOX news they are pro Hilary and Murdock is a large Hilary Donor, even throwing her a party this past summer.

It sounds the Conservative in Canada were concerned about Obama per the article... does not sound they were concened about Hilary and called to have a meeting with her staff.


Rergards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 03/03/2008

Has anyone else noticed the title change on this blog/thread ? Look no mention of Obama on the Huff link, just the Canadians and NAFTA.
And Please - will someone tell me how Obamas' lie/misstatement about the meeting which didn't happen and was also misunderstood is Hillary's fault? Or how " They did all these horrible things " is an excuse to lie when you say you're different and better?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 03/03/2008
- Ides I'm a Fan of Ides 21 fans permalink

It's a meeting Obama never knew about conducted over the phone. How do you expect him to know about a meeting no one else in the campaign was privy to and which the Canadian Embassy didn't even know about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 03/03/2008

And as I said earlier:

Well he sure should have known about a meeting of his chief economic advisor and a Councilor General of a foreign government. Does he tell his people "Go ahead and have meetings with other governments, talk about policy and other stuff and then get back to me when you feel like it."
I don't think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 03/03/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

Yet again-Clinton is found lying, slinging dirt against a fellow Democrat. It is destructive and shameful. Again-just like in the 90s- the drag the Dem Party through the mud.

Enough is enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 03/03/2008
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 50 fans permalink

did she make Obama say that no meeting took place between his staff and the Canadians. How did she like, he's the one saying his words were misunderstood in a meeting he says never happened.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 03/03/2008

Not only do we have lying clinton, now we have the lying canadians. And how many 'smart' people in Ohio and Texas are buying into all the crap that has been raised about Obama in the last couple of days? If she wins, she wins on fear and lies. Oh yeah, this is the kind of politics and the kind of fear that will continue in this country. Ohio and Texas, please do what Bill Clinton suggested four years ago.....vo­te for the candidate that asks you to think and hope, not the candidate pushing fear and lies.

I think about canadians in a whole new way....a bunch of frickin liars. We can thank the manipulating clintons and the lying canadians. What a country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 03/03/2008

The Stephen Harper Government of Canada does not represent us all, but like Americans who did not vote for Bush, we are all in the same boat. Please accept my apology as a Canadian for what this minor official in the Canadian consulate in Chicago did in first writing and then leaking the memo. It was wrong, he was wrong, no excuses, we are sorry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 03/03/2008
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 50 fans permalink

so whole countries lie, everyone lies but Obama, LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 03/03/2008

Go for it Mattie - you are doing a great job. These Obamaniacs can only spew conspiracy theories in the face of facts and the youtube video that clearly caught Obama lying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 03/03/2008
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