Rhode Island Primary: Latest News, Polls On Democratic Race

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Huffington Post   |   March 3, 2008 04:51 PM



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Read HuffPost's OffTheBus Superdelegate Investigation to find out more about the superdelegates who are likely to decide the Democratic nomination for president.

The AP reports on Clinton's win in Rhode Island:

Sen. Hillary Clinton has won the Democratic primary in Rhode Island, fighting off a late surge from rival Sen. Barack Obama. Sen. John McCain won the Republican primary handily, helping him secure the nomination.

Clinton had long been favored to win in Rhode Island, a state where she is well liked and has visited often. Most of the state's political establishment lined up behind her, including Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse and Rep. Jim Langevin.

The state also has a large number of elderly and blue-collar voters, and is the most Catholic state in the nation. Those groups have supported Clinton in many other states. Obama visited here Saturday and had support from Rep. Patrick Kennedy and former Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee.

The AP reports:

Clinton picked up at least five delegates in Rhode Island, where she ended Obama's win streak. Obama won at least eight delegates in Vermont.

Both NBC and Fox News have declared Sen. Hillary Clinton the winner in Rhode Island.

Early Exit Polls

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Early exit poll data from the AP:

--A third of voters in the Rhode Island Democratic primary were independents.
--Roughly six in ten of all Democratic voters said superdelegates should vote based on the results of primaries and caucuses rather than personal opinions of the candidates.
--More than half of Rhode Island Democrats picked the economy as the top issue out of three choices.

Read more here.

Choosing A Candidate

Rhode Island voters head to the polls today, eager to participate in their state's presidential primary which, for a change, will have significant sway in the national race. While Clinton maintains a lead in the polls, voters nonetheless have strong opinions about both candidates:

Sharon Carpentier, 46, said it had been a while since she voted in a primary, but on Tuesday she cast her vote for Clinton at a polling place in the Federal Hill section of Providence.


"Rhode Island is such a small state and it really feels like something is going to happen today," said Carpentier, a medical office worker.


Carpentier supports Clinton because she wants to see a female president in her lifetime and because she admires her perseverance through the public airing of her personal problems...


...Brian Chapman, a 34-year-old bicycle frame builder, voted for Obama, whom he compared to John F. Kennedy.


"He's evoking the feeling for me of positivity, he's making me actually proud to be an American and proud to be living in this country instead of being ashamed as I am right now under the current political leadership," Chapman said.

Polls

Real Clear Politics has Clinton maintaining a 10-point lead over Obama (48% to 38%) in Rhode Island as voters go to the polls.


Rhode Island Defies Its Size

2008 is turning out to be a big year for the small state of Rhode Island:

For the first time anyone can remember, this small state is relishing its role in the presidential primary cycle.


The state, with only 665,000 eligible voters, has seen astonishing surges in both voter registration and grass-roots political activity.


And while a scant 32 delegates to the Democratic National Convention are at stake, compared with a combined 389 in Ohio and Texas, which will also vote on Tuesday, the candidates are lavishing attention on Little Rhody...


...No presidential candidate stumped here before the 2004 primary, and the state's turnout that year -- barely 6 percent of registered voters -- was among the worst in the nation.

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Turnout

As Rhode Island gears up for a crucial primary vote, state official are estimating that there will be record voter turnout:

Rhode Islanders are gearing up for what could be a record-breaking presidential primary. The Secretary of State's office is estimating twice as many people to hit the polls this year than the 2000 primaries...


...Rhode Islanders will have until 9 PM to cast their ballots in Tuesday's primary. The state is one of three that keeps polling places open that late, most close earlier to collect and tally votes.

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Blue-Collar Voters

While Clinton has been leading consistently in the polls in Rhode Island, there are signs that her support among blue-collar voters, a large constituency in Rhode Island, may be wavering:

Pawtucket, R.I., arguably should be Clinton country.


As in much of Rhode Island, Pawtucket's residents are primarily blue-collar, union workers: mechanics, waitresses and teachers, who live in triple-decker homes or tidy bungalows that sit just a few feet apart.


But a recent local Brown University poll shows that Illinois Sen. Barack Obama is making inroads in the state, the same week that he is also leading in nationwide polls for the first time. This is despite the fact that Obama has not actually visited Rhode Island, one of four states that will hold primaries on March 4. His campaign announced that he plans to stop in the state on Saturday.


Six weeks ago, Clinton had a 16-point lead over Obama in Rhode Island. Now, that margin has dwindled to just 8 points.

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Clinton, Obama Mock Each Other

Obama and Clinton spoke at the same college gymnasium in Rhode Island only days apart from each other. Clinton first mocked Obama's message of hope, but Obama turned around and mocked her right back:

Last Sunday, Clinton addressed several thousand people, where she spoke sarcastically about Obama's themes of hope and bipartisanship, saying she knew better than to think that "The sky will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing, and everyone will know we should do the right thing, and the world will be perfect."


Today, addressing a crowd of more than 5,000 -- not including about 5,000 more who were turned away for lack of space, Obama referred to those remarks.


"She was here, right? And she was saying, 'Oh, you know, he thinks that the clouds will part, and he's so naïve, and he thinks he can wave a magic wand,' " he said, as the crowd laughed.

Watch the video of Clinton mocking Obama.

Watch the video of Obama mocking Clinton's impression of him.

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Polls

The latest Rasmussen Poll in Rhode Island has Clinton leading Obama, 53% to 38%:

While most of the attention in the Democratic Presidential Primary is focused on Ohio and Texas these days, Rhode Island and Vermont will also be voting on March 4. Rhode Island offers a rare bit of good news for the campaign of New York Senator Hillary Clinton. The former First Lady leads Illinois Senator Barack Obama by fifteen percentage points, 53% to 38%.


Clinton leads by twenty-five points among women and by three points among men.

Read here for more polls in Rhode Island.

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Rhode Island Primary Facts And Figures

U.S. News $ World Report has a good primer Rhode Island's primaries, including past winners, 2008 voter registration data, exit poll data from the 2004 election, and more. They also have "3 things you didn't know about the Rhode Island primaries." Here's one of them:

To determine the order in which candidates will appear on this year's presidential primary ballots, Rhode Island Secretary of State Ralph Mollis used a machine borrowed from the Rhode Island Lottery. Much like the daily lottery numbers are chosen, each candidate was assigned a ball, and the order in which these floated to the top decided their place on the ballot. This year's Democratic ballot will read (in this order): Uncommitted, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Barack Obama.
 
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RHODE ISLAND ROCKS!!!

Go Hillary - Sorry Barack -its going all the way to the convention

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 03/05/2008

Mr. Obama cannot close the deal. And now he's lost his mojo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 03/04/2008

I'm so tired of this "so-and-so wins this state" garbage that the MSM keeps spewing on us. You don't win states in a Democratic Primary contest. You win delegates. So being ahead by 1 or 2 points in the popular vote is virtually meaningless. Iowa, Nevada, and Hew Hampshire are perfect examples. Iowa gave Obama a whopping 1 delegate advantage, and NV and NH were literally ties.

Think about the massive difference in how the media will react if Clinton wins Texas by a frickin point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 03/04/2008

91 percent (typo)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 03/04/2008

9 percent and they are calling it, I guess the 81 percent don't matter to the media. I will laugh my as off if it turns out different.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 03/04/2008
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Come on Rhode Island, it is time for a change, A MAJOR CHANGE.

it is time for the next generation to correct our mistakes and put the country right.

We sure have failed them.

What happened? How could the generation involved in the Civil Rights Movement and bringing an

end to the Vietnam War have become complacent and allowed BushCo to ruin our country

and foreign nations?

NO MORE OF THE SAME!

Give our children and grandchildren the power to change the future.

WE ARE FIRED!

VOTE OBAMA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 03/04/2008

For some time, I wondered about the wave of young persons support for Obama against recalling that cheating was epidemic in high schools and colleges. Here is an excerpt from an ABC News report.

"Authoritative numbers are hard to come by, but according to a 2002 confidential survey of 12,000 high school students, 74 percent admitted cheating on an examination at least once in the past year" Those students are now voting age.

Search for 'college student cheating' and you'll get a surprise. Yet, we're told that this is who should be deciding our president cause it's their future. First of all, can they find Iraq on a map without a crib sheet. I am going to guess that their embrace of the vague 'change' and 'hope' is indicative of their diligence in their studies. Nothing too complicated. I don't know about older folks who should know better from their own experience of history.

I'm not saying that all students that support Obama are cheaters but maybe it's something like 74%. If you're a student who replies to this post, please indicate if you've cheated in school. Don't worry. You're anonymous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 03/04/2008

I watched FOX and CNN today. It is funny to see how both networks are pushing for Clinton as hard as they can.

All the Media tools are engaged, frequency, insinuations, imagery, subliminals.

Obama is shown hugging Axelrod, linked to Farrakhan, etc.,

Clinton is 1) featured more frequently, 2) always positive, 3) the 3am wake up call style BS, etc.

These two networks helped to push us into the 3 trillion dollar war and the economic disaster and they keep up their dirty work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 03/04/2008

As soon as someone starts screaming media "bias", the wars begin.

Thanks Hillary for all you do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 03/04/2008
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RI may be small but, her people are among the savviest in America and, we don't like the way Senator Clinton, who would have made a formidable President no doubt, dragged this campaign into the mud by hanging an 'inexperienced' sign around Senator Obama's neck.
Remember Senator Clinton, our current administration, aside from President Knucklehead of course, have more experience than pretty much any administration in American history and look what they've done to America and the world.
And remember Senator Clinton, we did have a former Senator from Illinois who didn't have a ton of experience either but he worked out okay for America...didn't ya' President Lincoln?
Its about time we got new, fresh, 'inexperienced' people who haven't been infected with the brand of Americans politics we, as a nation, have had to suffer through for the past 30 years.

AND, I still think an Obama/Clinton ticket would be the unstoppable juggernaut of change America and Americans are crying out for!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 03/04/2008

uh, it's a campaign. What should she have done, not campaign. Experience doesn't matter uh, what do you think they'll ask you at your next job interview? If you have to have experience for YOUR job, shouldn't candidates for President. See how many people on the unemplyment line are offering Fresh inexperience as their way to get a job. and Lincoln, are you kidding..how long ago was that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 03/04/2008

What? Her 35 yrs of experience? Doing what? Her experience was handed to her on a silver platter. Her father who owned a textile mill paved her way to a first class education. Hillary Clinton never missed a meal or ever worried about paying the bills or just surviving like most people do. She then married her experience...and stayed with the prick even after he made a fool out of her. Why? For this nomination, that's why. This is more about President Clinton's legacy than it is about her. Go feminist go. Hillary literally screwed her way up to the top. Go feminist go...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 03/04/2008

Experience vs. Judgment is what really matters.
If one candidate"s trying to scare you and the other one"s trying to get you to think, if one candidate"s appealing to your fears and the other one"s appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope."

-Bill Clinton, 2004

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 03/05/2008

Okay, block quote tag doesn't work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 03/05/2008

Todays negative headlines for Hillary/ Pro for Obama

Negative-C: TX: Clinton's slight Lead (Yes lets label it "slight" and further downplay it, with the margins of error info in first line of article (below)... Cant they just EVER say WAY TO GO HILLARY??)
"Final Polls Show Clinton With Slight Lead:A handful of late polls have Clinton eking out a slight lead in Texas, albeit within the margins for error"

Negative-C: Klein: Catholics Hate Hillary (Isnt that a tad harsh? All catholics?? 100% of them??? Where is this lame poll from???)

Negative-C: Hillary Goes Orwellian on Iraq (Come on we all know George Orwell book themes were dark, gloomy and about a negative oppressive leader)


Negative-C: Comedians and Voters: Don't Let The Press Bias Toward Hillary Throw You (This idiot actually says the media is pushing Pro-Hillary ideas? Where the hell has this guy been??)


Positive-O : Barack Obama on the Path to Sainthood (Lets just settle on fact that majority here are pro Obama, and not a single pro Hillary article in all Huffpost main page again.

Negative-C: Limbaugh Urges Listeners To Vote For Hillary (Obviously if its Limbaugh its anti Hillary article)

Negative-C: Richardson Criticizes Clinton's Ad (The same ad Mondale used in 1984, nobody saw it as bad, but of course any reason to criticize Clinton.. again)

Negative-O :Losing Momentum (OMG!! Obama's face was in this one, wearing cowboy hat ,"Texasizing" himself I guess

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 03/04/2008

May I offer you more Whine - 2003 Chateau Ste. Michelle Merlot - Columbia Valley.

Hillary had 7 years to improve her press relations. Her campaign has beaten on the press. Her message is old, her style is old. Her negativity is old.

Grow up. You sound like my 4 year old who is overly tired. Take a nap

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 03/04/2008

Think how different the world would be if Hitler had gotten "fair and balanced" coverage by the American MSM?

Point is, the press doesn't owe Hillary nothing. Nor Obama. You want "balanced" coverage, Hillary, then run for Prez in a country that denies press freedom but still "guarantees fair and balanced" news coverage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 03/04/2008

HIllary is the loser....losers get bad press......she has lost the last 11 contests.....if that were Obama you would be screaming for him to get out........get real...Hillary's favorite line....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 03/04/2008

Lost 11, uh. She really is the 'hope' candidate. Don't trash 'hope'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 03/04/2008

Mr. Obama has lost his momentum, but no need to be so bitter! :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 03/04/2008

Everyone I know is voting for Obama, I don't know who the polls are talking to but if Clinton should loose in RI it will be because of lack of effort on her part. I have had Obama people show up and call my home, and not one person from Clinton has done the same. I"ve only seen a few ads from her where as Obama is everywhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 03/04/2008

"Real Clear Politics has Clinton maintaining a 10-point lead over Obama (48% to 38%) in Rhode Island as voters go to the polls."

RCP has no such thing! Follow the link and see for yourself. They have Clinton's lead AVERAGING 10% over the last two weeks, but steadily dwindling from 15% two weeks ago to 5% this past weekend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 03/04/2008

I'm voting for Obama today in Providence, RI. Volunteers have been canvassing the state and I think it could go either way. I definitely do not think that the polls we've seen so far will be a good predictor of the outcome here.

Keep in mind that we're a very small state with an Ivy league university. We have a lot of young, well educated people here (whether they go to Brown or not, I for one go to URI). These people know that their vote counts because they've been following the news. They will turn out to vote today in record numbers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 03/04/2008

By the way, our state motto is "Hope", it's on our flag. :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 03/04/2008

yes and the man at the top of the state house is the independent man . . . way to go guys . . . RI for Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! make me proud to be a Rhode Islander . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 03/04/2008

Good to hear......friend in Massachusetts

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 03/04/2008

Rhode Island has a larger population than Montana, Delaware, North and South Dakota, Alaska, Vermont and Wyoming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 03/04/2008
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So this means that all nine of them are gonna vote?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 AM on 03/04/2008

Come on RI make me proud vote Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 AM on 03/04/2008

Come on Rhode Island, make me proud, vote Hillary!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 03/04/2008
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