Clinton Finally Has a Confetti Night

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Hillary Rodham Clinton finally had a confetti night. The Democratic presidential hopeful claimed victory in the Ohio primary Tuesday night and said that means, "We're going strong and we're going all the way."

Confetti rained down on her Ohio rally as she took the stage. She told the crowd her performance was a victory for everyone who's been "counted out but refused to be knocked out."

She and Barack Obama were in a tight race in Texas as she spoke, and her claim of Ohio victory had yet to be affirmed. Earlier, Clinton broke Obama's winning streak by taking Rhode Island, after Obama was declared the winner in Vermont.

Despite the turn of fortune, Clinton's still got an uphill fight to overcome Obama's lead in delegates.

Comments

[brwnizofmine]

I hope Stephanie Tubb-Jones and Sheila Jackson-Lee have paid their debts to the Clintons. That's what it was about anyways, they owed them, that's why they stuck with her. I hope their constituencies vote their behinds out!

[veracal]

It's called politics, everyone owes somebody else. That's how things get done. If they lose their seats then so be it, but let's not be naive.

[darlamc]

For all Hillary Supporters- you did it-
http://politicalamnesia.blogspot.com/2008/02/hard-way-indeed.html

[brwnizofmine]

Obama has campaigned on change, and Hillary has used her gender to campaign. Women are voting for her because she is a woman, not because she might be the best person for the job. If the party decides to give her the nomination, without her actually earning it, a lot of Blacks might vote for McCain. Blacks will feel like Obama got robbed if the superdelegates give her the nomination when he's ahead in the count.

[msmaggie]

Obama is getting about 85-90% of black voters. Hillary is getting about 50-55% of women voters. From that you infer that Hillary's voters are identity, i.e because she's a woman, voters; but you give Obama voters a pass?

Use your head, I'm sure you're a perfectly nice person with a real passion for Obama, but stupid is stupid.

[frappe]

...or they might just feel so discouraged and alienated by the process. And not only the blacks, but all of the young voters that Barack has attracted, including independents and, yes, Republicans. Many of them may simply boycott the election over disgust.

[roncraw]

I can't believe you are bringing up the gender card. In every state approx 90% of blacks voted for Obama,If in every state 90% of whites voted for Hillary you would call it racies. Are you going to tell me 90% of blacks beleiveObamais the best candidate.

[karrezza]

Hey, stupid, blacks make up 12% of the US population, women make up how much, 51%? If they went to McCain it would hardly risk the democratic win for president.
If blacks vote for Obama just because he is HALF black, that is as stupid as women voting for Hillary because she is a woman. I am voting for her because I think she is better for the job. He is not. He is just an ivy league educated WHITE MALE!!! So what if he shares pigment from african american blood in him..He didnt live with the discrimination, poor upbringing, racial struggles that many black people have had to unfairly deal with. I mean Hello just look at arrest rates for black men!!! Totally biased!! They always get the longer sentence etc....
He was raised as most WHITE MALE presidents have been raised. Rich family, expensive education, elite social circles. He cannot truly relate to hard struggles from what I have heard.

Lets stop running the BLACK card. HE is ONLY HALF BLACK, and he is HALF WHITE! Why is his half white side completely ignored??

[iluvsam]

Hillary Clinton rocks. My prediction was spot on: Ohio by 10 points, small margin in Texas, and a win in RI; Obama takes Vermont. Clinton will now take Pennsylvania by at least 8 points. The DNC will be forced to allow Florida and Michigan to have a do-over, which I argue is the ONLY thing they can do and still call themselves progressive Americans. Having this thing decided by superdelegates is absolutely unAmerican. That would be just sick and wrong and would disenfranchise millions of voters due to something beyond their control.

Ultimate prediction: Clinton/Obama ticket in November. Clinton becomes the first woman President. Obama becomes the first black Vice President. History is made. They kick ass and do a HELL of a job for the next 8 years. The world is NEVER the same again.

[caitybelle]

As a disenfranchised Floridian and lawyer who voted for Hil, i say Frak the DNC. Who in the hell said they have the authority to take a way our right to choose? This was BS from the beginning, and something Floridians have NEVER been happy about, so no one should accuse Hillary of mining for delegates who should have rightfully been hers to begin with, and also a situation we have protested from the get go.

Florida is a big state, and the DNC was over concerned with pandering to Iowa and New Hampshire when it made this decision, and in the process pissed alot of people off. We have democrats here too, you know.

And p.s. has anyone noticed every positive headline for Hillary is followed by a negative subhead? And Obama is the reverse. Not doing such a good job of convinicing us all of your objectivity there, press kids.

[PhyloSeFiser]

Blame your state officials. They were warned. Did you complain then?

[dct19]

All of the candidates knew that FL and MI were not in play, anybody who pretends otherwise is a liar.

[karrezza]

Yeah, why a "do over"?? didnt she already win? Why does it have to be done again??? its not a best out of 3 thing!!!

[caitybelle]

And by the way iluvsam -- i agree with you 100%. :D

[williamina]

there will be blood

[msmaggie]

No, not even close. Great film though

[frappe]

and in the final analysis, it will be Republican blood and a Republican funeral on election day.

[snowcat]

From the AP:
"A senior Obama adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Obama's team will respond to Tuesday's results by going negative on Clinton " raising questions about her tax records and the source of donations to the Clinton presidential library, among skeletons in the Clintons' past"
THIS will be fun!

[cuzkate]

Snowcat, this is the most disgusting woman/?? on the planet. I hope that he goes as
far as is possible (White House( and spills her crap for all to see.

[msmaggie]

But that's Obama's conumdrum. Once he goes negative, he relinquishes that "candidate of hope/bringing us together" aura and becomes just another candidate. Which begs the question (a retread to be sure) "where's the beef?"

Occurs to me that Obama is the one you date in college, a real stars in your eyes whirlwind, all romance and lust and excitement. In the end, you marry someone like Hillary because life is a long and demanding ride, not a fantasy.

And PS, re delegates--Florida for certain and perhaps Michigan--will end up re-doing their votes--the DNC won't be able to stop it. Which will change the game. And does Obama really want to be on the side of disenfranchising the voters of 2 states---ow, not a hope thing, that.

It was swell while it lasted, huh?

[brwnizofmine]

I can't wait!

[darlamc]

You mean like these skeletons,
http://politicalamnesia.blogspot.com/2008/02/carlyle-group-spreads-their-love-to-one.html

[karrezza]

But really, what the HELL do her tax returns got to do with her ability to be president??

She said she would publish her tax returns. I really doubt she is like Cheney and Bush making millions off the blood of soldiers!!!! Let us not forget their no-bid contracts to their own companies that YOU KNOW they still have connections and money in, they just hide the trail back to them!!!

[riverhorse]

after michigan and florida are counted the math will put her over the top huffington.

[MollyS]

I don't know about Michigan, there was only her name on the ballot. But does anybody REALLY think that the democratic party is going to tick off 1.75 million Florida voters because the Republican party made them change their primary date? The Democratic party needs Florida to win and we all know it. They are not going to lie down easily. I don't know whether it's true or not, but a few sites had Obama buying plenty of advertising in Florida. But true or not, Florida WILL be seated.

As for superdelegates, if you believe Caucuses are a perfectly acceptable way to win a state, then you shouldn't have any problems with superdelegates making choices. After all, caucuses are not primaries and a few hundred people "decide" "for" the voters who wins. Can't love one without loving the other.

[JeffinIllinois]

See previous post. She was not the only name on the ballot in Michigan.

[scandals&skeletons]

bottom line is america is f-ed.

[A Meat Beetle]

scandals:

You are correct. America is f**ked. Our days of greatness are behind us. It will be up to the next President, whoever that is, to stick a fork in our collective ass--we're done. Nobody is going to "save America". The damage is too severe after 8 years of Bush.

[williamina]

wow wierd

[TomPaine07]

The voters in Texas and Ohio last night decided to vote for their interests rather than their hopes, racial bias, and beliefs. The electorate is waking up to the fact that the Obama campaign is, " a show about nothing." The next big stop for the Clinton campaign is Pennsylvania. If she wins that then she has all the big states nailed down- New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, California, Ohio, Texas, and possibly Pennsylvania. At that point it will be necessary for the Democratic party to consider what to do about Michigan and Florida.

[PhyloSeFiser]

Can you sight Hillary's greatest foreign policy and national security achievements?

Thought so.

Hillary is an empty pants suit that wouldn't be anywhere if her husband hadn't been president.

And this big states argument looks pretty silly. After all, Obama is winning the big cities in the big states. Can we afford to not win the big cities in the general election?

If you look at it, Hillary is winning the conservative Democrats, Obama is winning the liberal Democrats.

If Hillary somehow weasels out a victory it will be a race between two war mongers. Great.

[JeffinIllinois]

You are partly correct. The nation has never elected a liberal democrat. (although Republicans paint people like that) We usually go towards the center. Most of the American people are centrists with a little to the left or right slant. The only way to get progress is to drive in the center...a­nd, wait for it.. .wait for it.. when you are in the center and making progress it means that you are working together. We've already forgotten what Obama has yet to learn.

[karrezza]

Can you sight Obama's greatest foreign policy and national security achievements?
Thought so.

[DaRight]

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CONGRATULATIONS to all the Republicans that voted for Hillary in Ohio and Texas.....


We now have the DEMS in a CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD.....­........


We get to watch the DEM freak show ......



Can't wait for the DEM CONVENTION­..........





Good Luck with that......­..........­..









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[loocifer]

What proof do you have that Republicans voted for her in those states. Are you s blinded by your fanaticism that you have lost all objectivity?

[A Meat Beetle]

Have any actual numbers on how many Republicans voted for Clinton yesterday? My guess is that it is an insignificant sum.

Oh, and the circular firing squad formed months ago.

[hank48188]

The guy on FOX NEWS this morning asked Republicans that voted for Hillary as rush suggested to e-mail the show, they said 800 did.

[Delle]

I am not sure of the actual numbers, however, I know that many republicans crossed over to vote for Hill.
My sister-in-law in Texas, who is a registered republican, took the advice of Rush and cast her vote for Hillary.
I don't know how great was the influence of Rush, but his wish has come true.
There will be several more weeks of in-fighting among the democrats and Obama will still have the majority of pledged delegates, regardless of the outcome of the upcoming primaries.
That leaves the final decision to the superdelegates.
She will try to buy them off, or threathen them.
Things will get bad.
Damn!

[darlamc]

A big Ditto to all those Republicans and Independent who voted for Obama.

Doesn't fell too good does it? As a Hillary supporter, I have said from day one- republicans should not be voting in Democratic Primaries. Remember, Obama is the DEMOCRAT who is a fan of Republicans. I think he calls them Obamacans.

[JeffinIllinois]

Exactly. Well Said. This is why we have superdelegates. People act like this nomination process is the general election. This process is about who the Democrats want to be the candidate. As far as the circular squad comment, I know it feels like that right now, but as people actually learn about the process, it will get much better. This is not the first time we've had this happen. (Some of us wanted Barack to be Hillary's running mate years ago) LOL.

[leftLibertarian]

Never Forget: Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War Resolution and the Patriot Act.

[AnotherTry]

Never Forget: Obama was in no position to do anything in 2003 and he voted to renew the Patriot Act. Not to mention EVERY war funding bill he could put his name on.

[A Meat Beetle]

AnotherTry:

Exactly. Since the two have been in the Senate together their voting records on military, defense, and national security issues have been virtually identical. The only significant difference is in the number of missed votes (Obama has missed far more than Clinton, though neither is a shining example on that score).

Here are their records on military issues:

Military Funding and Tax Cuts Amendment O-Y C-Y

Troop Redeployment Amendment O-N C-N

Cluster Munitions Amendment O-Y C-N

Military Commissions Act of 2006 O-N C-N

Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention Amendment O-Y C-Y

Military Commissions Amendment O-Y C-Y

Habeas Review Amendment O-Y C-Y

United States Policy in Iraq Resolution of 2007 O-Y C-Y

Iraq Withdrawal Amendment O-Y C-N

Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007 with Iraq Withdrawal Timeline O-Y C-Y

Emergency Departmental Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007 O-N C-N

Iraq Troop Reduction O-Y C-Y

Time Between Troop Deployments O-Y C-Y

National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 O-NV C-NV

Permanent Residence for Certain Undocumented Immigrants O-Y C-Y

Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense O-N C-N

Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense and Timeline for Withdrawal from Iraq O-Y C-N

Iraq Withdrawal Amendment O-NV C-NV

Of 18 votes on military issues, the two Senators cast identical votes on 16.

Obama "No Votes" 2

Clinton "No Votes" 2

("No Votes" = missed votes)

Source: Project Vote Smart http://www.votesmart.org/index.htm

[A Meat Beetle]

Here are Senators Obama and Clinton's voting records on defense issues:

07/26/2005 National Defense Authorization Act - Cloture O-N C-N

11/08/2005 National Commission on Detainees Amendment O-Y C-Y

11/10/2005 Detainees at Guantanamo Bay Amendment O-N C-N

11/15/2005 Judicial Review of Detainees Amendment O-Y C-Y

11/15/2005 Status of Detainees Substitute Amendment O-Y C-Y

04/26/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007 with Iraq Withdrawal Timeline O-Y C-Y

05/24/2007 Emergency Departmental Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007 O-N C-N

07/18/2007 Iraq Troop Reduction O-Y C-Y

07/19/2007 Sense of the Senate on Guantanamo Bay Detainees O-NV C-Y

09/19/2007 Time Between Troop Deployments O-Y C-Y

09/21/2007 Iraq Troop Reduction Amendment O-Y C-Y

10/01/2007 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 O-NV C-NV

11/16/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense O-N C-N

11/16/2007 Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense and Timeline for Withdrawal from Iraq O-Y C-Y

12/18/2007 Inclusion of Iraq and Afghanistan Military Operations Funding with the Consolidated Appropriations O-NV C-NV

12/18/2007 Iraq Withdrawal Amendment O-NV C-NV

01/22/2008 Defense Authorizations Bill O-NV C-NV

Of 17 votes total, the voting record of both candidates is the same for 16.

Obama "No Votes" 5

Clinton "No Votes" 4

Source: Project Vote Smart http://www.votesmart.org/index.htm

[A Meat Beetle]

Here are the two Senator's votes on issues of national securtiy:

***National Security Issues***

Disclosure of Classified Information Amendment O-Y C-Y

USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization O-N C-N

USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization O-Y C-Y

FEMA Amendment O-Y C-Y

USEMA Amendment O-Y C-N

Rail and Transit Security Amendment O-Y C-Y

National Security Amendment O-Y C-Y

Security of Cargo Containers Amendment O-Y C-Y

Implementing 9/11 Commission Recommendations Act O-Y C-Y

Law Enforcement Review of Z Visa Applications O-N C-N

Sense of the Senate on Guantanamo Bay Detainees O-NV C-Y

REAL ID Funding O-NV C-Y

Border Fence and Customs Appropriations O-NV C-Y

Department of Homeland Security Appropriations O-NV C-Y

Implementing the 9/11 Commission Recommendations Act O-NV C-Y

Foreign Intelligence Acquisition O-N C-N

Limiting Mexican Trucks to Commercial Zones Near the Border Between the U.S. and Mexico O-Y C-Y

Habeus Corpus for Detainees of the United States O-Y C-Y

Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding Iran and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps O-NV C-Y

Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding Federalism in Iraq O-NV C-Y

Border Fence and Customs Appropriations O-NV C-Y

Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act of 2008 O-NV C-NV

Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense O-N C-N

Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense and Timeline for Withdrawal from Iraq O-Y C-Y

Of 24 votes total, the voting record of both candidates is the same for 15.

Obama "No Votes" 8

Clinton "No Votes" 1

Source: Project Vote Smart http://www.votesmart.org/index.htm

[A Meat Beetle]

leftLib

Don't worry about anyone forgetting that. I'm sure either you or one of many others will remind us time and again. And don't forget that Obama endorser, John Kerry, voted the same way.

[PhyloSeFiser]

Ooooo, what a zinger. Sure Hillary voted for this disastrous policy, but so did one of Obama's supporters. LOL.

[JeffinIllinois]

Don't forget she was the commander in chief also. LOL . Given the information we had and if I had represented New York, I probably would have voted for it also. I had a suspension of disbelief about the President, but it's not like we could afford to be wrong about WMD in Iraq. When the U.N. Security council voted to authorize force, and when Colin Powel showed us the pictures of the mobile labs and waived the bottle of powder at the U.N., I gave the President the benefit of doubt. When Hanz Blix went back into Iraq I thought that we would either find the WMD or have a reason not to go to war. A few weeks ago sixty minutes had the CIA representative in charge of Sadam in an interview and the reporter asked if Sadam wanted WMD and if he would use them against us, "yes" was the answer. Are we never to trust a President when he tells us we are in danger? We have never not believed a President before. Are all future Presidents going to have to let something happen because we can't trust them? Do all future Presidents have their hands tied? I didn't vote for George Bush, but he was the one constitutionally responsible. Impeachment is OUR constitutional responsibility.

[shanester]

Last night on MSNBC they're were saying the Clintons wanted to complaint about "brawling" by some of the Obama supportes at the caucuses. They were obviously preparing an "excuse defense" had they lost Texas. Are we gonna here more about that??

They pulled the same sh*t in Nevada when early results favoured Obama but of course after they ended up winning not a peep about it!!

The Clintons are so transaprent

[stonepier]

Congratulations, Hillary, on pulling a "Harry and Louise" on Obama. I hope you're pleased with yourself.

[EinChicago]

Ummmm. Are you proudt that Obama actually DID use teh Harry and Louise ad on Clinton? or are you a hypocrite?

[shanester]

What's a "Harry & Louise" ??

[MsLiz]

I think "Thelma and Louise" might be more apt.

[snowcat]

Republicans voted for her last night because they know she will be beaten by McCain in November.

[TomPaine07]

How do you know that? Are you the kind of person who believes everything that he(she) hears on TV?

[PhyloSeFiser]

Listen to talk radio today and listen to how gleeful the Republicans will be.

[Shannon2008]

Here in Texas, there were quite a few Republicans who voted for Hilary in order to keep the race going in hopes that it will get uglier and allow McCain back in the race. They have no plans of voting for her in November. I would say that was at least the same as her margin of victory, 3%. They voted for her in the primary but they didn't caucus for her. We'll see how that vote turns out this morning. I think this is going to get ugly fast. They probably won't have the opportunity to debate again. So, there will be one negative commercial after another. I think Clinton will go negative on her commercials, while surogates for Obama will attack her for not releasing her tax returns and perhaps any shady dealings involving the Clinton Foundation. I think the question is what will Obama's commercials look like. Will they be positive? I kinda think he needs to go negative. This whole Hilary being attack by the media is a farce. If anybody won last night, it was the media. It gives them high ratings, and an infusion of cash from each campaign. I very seriously doubt if they're going to be unbiased because the chaos aids their ratings. I look for them to play up Pennsylvania and then to try and get a camera on every superdelagate they can find. They'll also give more media coverage to the question of what to do with Florida and Michigan. They're probably hoping for a lawsuit of some kind. Then, it would be courtv all over again. With all this being said, I don't think there is a realistic chance that Hilary will catch Obama in the pledged delegate count even if she wins out. I think it's time for a little backroom superdelegate action. The longer this goes on, it will only get worse for the party. With so little time between the convention and the general election, the party won't recover. People will still be concerned about all the lawsuits that will result.

[TomPaine07]

What, other than your posted 'informed opinion,' is your comment, "I would say that was at least the same as her margin of victory, 3%," based on? Is something a fact just because it is posted?