Constant Violence Leaves Young Iraqis Doubting Clerics

OMG! Sanity strikes when you least expect it.

I wonder if this is disillusion with just one brand of Fascist Islam, or with the general idea that God/Jehovah/Allah/Barney daily micromanages our humble human thoughts and deeds?

Seriously, boys and girls, if there were a white-bearded fellow in the sky watching and caring about what we all get up to, don't you think He would have found a way to give us all a clue??? Is part of His master plan, to keep us all in the dark as to His existence, demanding that we accept Him into our hearts with no evidence whatsoever, and then throwing those of us who insist on using the brains He gave us into a lake of fire for that "offense?"

Have any of you Godtalkers really examined the question? You make yourselves look like idiots when you say that we should believe a proposition that can never have any proof behind it. The Bible is the proof? Since when? If there's proof in there, then why do we need faith?

Sorry, but it's just self-willed delusion. I can make "Hey Jude" actually play inside my head, just by imagining it. I mean, I can HEAR it. Is that proof that the Beatles are god?

So you imagine a good feeling and a supporting presence, and an assurance that you have nothing to worry about? I can do that too. So what? So things work out in "mysterious" fashion now and then? What's the mystery? Things just work out, sometimes; it doesn't mean anyone plans it and makes it happen -- it just happens!

Oops, sorry -- I'm trying to talk sense to people who are immune to it. I'll just go back to my drugs, now.

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stop watching tv.

I think you need more of a controlled study and to talk to more than 40 people before you can draw any conclusions from this.

It's interesting to see, though, that many of the juveniles being arrested are involved in what they have been doing for money, not religious reasons. I wonder if building infrastructure and creating jobs might help the problem over there...

Good for them. One of the things that all young people everywhere should be doing is questioning those that claim authority over them.

I did when I was younger, I still do now, but I am one of the 'weird' few from my Generation (X-ers). I actually LOVE the fact that our younger generation is starting to speak out against the authority as well.

It is the only way that we are going to see real and beneficial change. And apparently that holds for the Iraqis as well. There is supposed to be a lot of anti-clerical feeling in the youth of Iran as well.

Is change for the better coming whether or not the 'old guard' likes it or not? I sure hope so.

It's a good start. Once Muslims start denouncing the hate mongers in thier midst things should greatly improve.

This may have been addressed in a post I didn't see. I think a growing amount of people on the planet are tired of religion. Didn't I see a study a few weeks ago which indicated many young people in America were moving towards no religion whatsoever? I'm tired of less educated retards who can memorize one book telling us what we need to do and how we need to behave. We just don't need them anymore. Glad to see the Iraquis are learning this. Recently I saw the movie Persopolis and felt it shed a new light on people of Iran. Apparently they all aren't strapped to the gills with explosives. GW should go see it.

Finally some progress is being made. Things will improve once people get tired of the hate being spewed by many Clerics. Hopefully this trend will start to take hold in Europe where the clerics are caught on tape spewing hate and encouraging violence.

Once again this blog is being overrun by ignorant intolerance. Iraqi' question their clerics and were immediately bashing christians. Columia kills a terrorist in Equador and bush is starting another war. Maybe someone in Irag would like to comment on this topic, but can't get past the christian nazi bullshit.

I thought all young iraq's were joing the police/army so they could fight for their country ? isn't america training hundreds of thousands of them to do that? How many have been trained already anway, seem that story is lost anymore, weren't we led to believe that most of the purple finger gang are all now in uniform and standing shoulder to shoulder and fighting the terriorists so americans can leave? Are the iraq politicans back from vacation yet?

When the white house learns of the iraqi youths' disenchantment with religious leaders, watch them point to this as being one of the unnanounced goals of the surge - "See? We told you it'd work!"

To extrapolate the traumatized emotions of one (or a smal group) of disenfranchised and victimized youth who have been in a dailly struggle for years facing an unjust foreign invasion, the ruthless looting of their national treasures, the destuction of their infrastucture, profiteering by US private and military industry, the ongoing triparty civil war, and most importantly the loss of any substantive hope, as representative of the attitude of the entire nation as a whole is a complete failure in logical reasoning. Inarguably, religious intolerance, moral cowardice, and personal self-interest (be that monetary, political, or military) is what is guiding the extremist factions of the religious leaders in Iraq, but are the so different than Mr. Hagee and others who supports the use of nuclear weapons due to his unbelievable interpretation of the Bible that such a conflict between Israel and Iraq is necessary to facilitate the return of the savior of mankind? Extremism in any form is an anthema to democracy and freedom and we in America have learned that lesson from Senator McCarthy to Mr. Haggerty. It therefore becomes incumbent upon the American public to no longer endeavor into the foolish foreign policies of the previous three presidencies, and whomever Democrat or Republican is elected in November 2008, there needs to be an acceptance and respect of other nations, races, and religions. We are a nation built with and by the sacrifies of great men and women of many faiths, races, ethnicities - it is now time to honor their sacrifices either in uniform or out of uniform and build an America that the world can once again be proud to call the greatest beacon of liberty, democracy, and justice for all and not just Americans,

its always the same once people deal with real ignorance and the depths of mankinds capabilities faith simply becomes another hollow authority figure, maybe one day there will be no religion and faith, only reason who knows that might just bring peace. I can always hope.

"They say they have grown disillusioned with religious leaders and skeptical of the faith that they preach."

"These people don't deserve their positions."

"The religion men are liars. Young people don't believe them. Guys my age are not interested in religion anymore."

Thanks Iraqi's, our sentiments exactly.

Signed,

The American's

ask mc war he has a lovely compassionate religious preacher supporting him now. why is it the religious are so self rightous and war mongering? i suspect part of the process of soul development. old souls and new souls and the repubs are the new souls. selfish and self rightous.

the world looks insane until one understands the role of ignorance in the manifestation of individual identities that perceive themselves as separate.

oh we are such a loving country to trade blood and misery for oil. so much for christianity as a compassionate religion.

I know how they feel.