Glenn Beck Watch: Misquoting Franklin [CORRECTED]

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March 4, 2008 04:35 PM

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[CORRECTION: As a commenter below kindly pointed out, the fault here is with me, and my substandard Google searching. Franklin, while not using the exact words attributed to him, did say something akin to what Beck suggests. You are free to dispute whether or not he captures the precise spirit, but Beck is correct on the baseline merits, and I regret the error.]

Normally, it's merely amusing when CNN's Glenn Beck dishing out his usual bowlful of anti-intellectual goulash. But when he starts misrepresenting the positions of this nation's founding fathers, well...that's when this shizz gets real. And in today's daily email, Glenn has this to say about Benjamin Franklin: "If Ben Franklin were around today he'd certainly be labeled a hate monger." Actually, from what I know of Franklin's libertinism, he'd probably be labeled a herpetic roue, and would have an open prescription of Valtrex waiting for him at Walgreens.

But that is neither here nor there. My interest piqued, I pressed on, into the dense undergrowth of Beck's mental kudzu. And what I found was a rant about how ill-informed people imagine that the Federal Reserve can just print all the money it likes, that suddenly transforms into a hollow indictment of Barack Obama, where he's accused of telling poor people that they'll never make it in life.

BECK: Barack Obama and Michelle Obama of all people are saying, "You can't make it." Look at the disadvantages that Barack Obama started with. Look at the disadvantage. Father was a Muslim, mother is a Christian, dad's gone, raised by a woman -- raised by his grandmother or his mother? He's African-American. He spent some of his time in a foreign country. He comes here and he makes it, he goes to Harvard, she goes to Princeton. They make it. He could be our first black President and they actually are saying in some stump speeches that, "The disadvantages, you can't overcome the..." what! You're kidding me! How is this even possible?

Uhm, for what it's worth, it sort of isn't possible, seeing as how Obama's standard stump speech is that "hope" makes raising oneself up in life possible, that his life is just one example of that fact, and that a lot of hard work has to be a part of the equation.* Good people can argue over whether that's naive, but one shouldn't just, you know, make stuff up about other people.

And that goes double for people like Benjamin Franklin, who's supposed view of poverty is the foundation for this round of Beckian rhetorical diarrhea.

BECK: You know one of my favorite quotes on poverty comes from Benjamin Franklin. I love this quote: "We should make the poor uncomfortable and kick them out of poverty." I love that!

I bet he does love that! Know what I'd love? To be able to find where or when Franklin said this! Because so far, I've had no luck. Along the way, however, I've discovered that Franklin was hardly insensitive to the travails of the poverty-stricken: "But poverty often deprives a man of all spirit and virtue: 'tis hard for an empty bag to stand upright." Additionally, he seemed fairly unimpressed with the trappings of wealth: "The Poor have little, Beggars none; the Rich too much, enough not one." And heck, you give Franklin enough quote, and he can sound like a welfare-queen: "The church the state, and the poor, are 3 daughters which we should maintain, but not portion off."

Truth be told, with Beck's heartfelt conviction that he is being asked to pay too much in taxes, it's easy to imagine that Franklin would be inspired to spit out an angry recitation of The Way To Wealth at the CNN host. He'd likely throw in the admonition: "If your head is wax, don't walk in the sun," as well. But seeing as how Beck wishes that "more people thought like Ben Franklin did," let me lay a little primo Franklin on him: "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Chew on that, Glenn.

*Franklin, by the way, would agree that only hard work makes hope profitable: "He who lives upon hope alone will die fasting."

[CORRECTION: As a commenter below kindly pointed out, the fault here is with me, and my substandard Google searching. Franklin, while not using the exact words attributed to him, did say something ak...
[CORRECTION: As a commenter below kindly pointed out, the fault here is with me, and my substandard Google searching. Franklin, while not using the exact words attributed to him, did say something ak...
 
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Seems to me that Glenn was really close, right idea, wrong words.

http://www.historicaldocuments.com/OnthePriceofCorn.htm

For my own part, I am not so well satisfied of the goodness of this thing. I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 03/06/2008
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The only saying Glenn Beck should be using is, "Ya want fries with that"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 03/05/2008

Maybe you all should use an ounce of gray matter and do a little research. He was paraphrasing Ben Franklin. The actual quote went like this, "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." Glenn Beck said, "We should make the poor uncomfortable and kick them out of poverty."

It's six one way and half a dozen the other. It's the same damn thing. I hope you will all enjoy another Republican in The White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 03/06/2008

I doubt people in Ben Franklin's time used phrases like "Kick Out".
As someone who has studied the writings of all the Founders I don't recall this ever being said by Franklin or anyone else.
I would bet that Glen Beck made this up or heard it on Bill O'Really?'s show.
The only Beck is Beck Hanson. Glen beck is a loser baby, oh why don't they kill him?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 03/05/2008

Neither Mr. Linkins nor any of his followers have done their due diligence. Glenn Beck was paraphrasing Benjamin Franklin. The exact quote and reference is as follows: "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." - On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor (11/29/1766). Only took about five minutes to find. But then, I think for myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 03/05/2008

doesn't beck make your skin crawl?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 03/04/2008
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One of my favorite quotes from Thomas Jefferson, "You know, that Ben Franklin sure has become an asshole since he started watching Glenn Beck on CNN."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 03/04/2008

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Beck has been more mentally confused since his ass operation. He was actually quoting Joe Franklin, not Ben.

In any case, what Franklin wrote in 'Poor Richard's Almanack' is filled with wisdom, humor, and great satire. Sometimes, it's hard to tell which is which.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 03/04/2008

Let"s see, if you"re an ignorant, opinionated boor, you get a high paying job at CNN? Where do I sign up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 03/04/2008

Look, more Glenn Beck hating red meat for the moonbats.

It doesn't matter what he says or in which context it is. Libs will find fault with it. It's no different for Rush, Hannity, Coulter, Rove, Bush and Cheney.

Examples to follow............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 03/04/2008

The 'context' is plain. Beck made up a quote and then said it came from Franklin. That's a lie and it goes to Beck's character... Something seriously missing in Rush, Hannity, Coulter, Rove, Bush, Cheney, and Lieberman... Just to name a few. Oh, would you like to discuss McCain and/or Collin Powell?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 03/04/2008

Read ohiomark's profile. See the type of mind that supports and presumably listens to Beck, Hannity, et al. Then, decide for yourself if this guy is worth listening to. Or, perhaps he just serves as anecdotal evidence that really really dumb people, especially those who are too dumb to know they are dumb, are the kind of people that listen to Beck.
As for Mr. Beck's comments, well,if you don't know by now that these people will say anything, lie about anything, to advance their hateful, anti-American views, then you'll never know, I guess. I humbly request that you boycott Beck's advertisers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 03/04/2008

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Don't need anymore examples, thanks.

They are seriously faulty.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 03/05/2008
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I hear more hate speech from right wing tv and radio, there is no constructive discussion just hate mongering that causes dissention and has no constructive value what so ever. Sorry, but when I hear name calling it reminds me of childhood " no you're stupid...well you're stupider...you're stupid infinity" no where did that ever get you as a kid. Grow up right wing media!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 03/05/2008
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I'd love it if Beck could be called on this during either his radio show or tv program

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 03/04/2008

You couldn't call Beck on this during his shows because if his screener didn't stop you, he'd scream at the top of his lungs and then cut you off. Arguing with someone like Beck is fruitless because regardless of the facts, his mind is made up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 03/04/2008

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Benjamin Franklin

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 03/04/2008
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