MSG Wants Its Reputation Back

MSG Wants Its Reputation Back

The New York Times   |  Julia Moskin   |   March 5, 2008 11:00 AM


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Even now, after "Chinese restaurant syndrome" has been thoroughly debunked (virtually all studies since then confirm that monosodium glutamate in normal concentrations has no effect on the overwhelming majority of people), the ingredient has a stigma that will not go away.

But then, neither will MSG.

Cooks around the world have remained dedicated to MSG, even though they may not know it by that name. As hydrolyzed soy protein or autolyzed yeast, it adds flavor to the canned chicken broth and to the packs of onion soup mix used by American home cooks, and to the cheese Goldfish crackers and the low-fat yogurts in many lunchboxes.

It is the taste of Marmite in the United Kingdom, of Golden Mountain sauce in Thailand, of Goya Sazon on the Latin islands of the Caribbean, of Salsa Lizano in Costa Rica and of Kewpie mayonnaise in Japan.

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Glutamates have been implicated in schizophrenia and autism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 AM on 03/07/2008

And domineering mothers have been implicated in homosexuality. Just because pseudo-science "implicates" something, doesn't make it so.
And by the way, I resent the hysterics implying anyone who disagrees with them shills for the industry. I'm all in favor of making our foods as natural as possible. I am opposed to factory farming, don't eat veal, haven't had a twinkie in years, and advocate free range and organic food. But I also believe that science should go with figures and facts, not with gut-level lizard-brain fear. Something may very well be wrong with you physically, but it is far more likely you'll find a cause if you investigate all possibilities than if you fixate on one thing that has not bee proven by anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 03/07/2008


And so what happens when the science is wrong and the methodology is incorrect.

We all know the standards of experimentation rely on consistent results .

What happens when the factor you are testing for varies from person to person and incident to incident?

What if it reacts with a cofactor that no one is testing for?

What does one do when told by some underemployed writer and office worker (what better example of the scientific profession could one ask for) that the real pain and symptoms they are feeling in the here and now are merely the result of a discredited idea. And that they are not suffering any pain . They are merely hysterical.
And the hurt is simply psychosomatic. this from anonymous expert that has never even witnessed the symptoms.

I am sure Torquemada had his justifiable logic, too.

One of us has a dog in this fight. The other is defending food additives (god knows, they are such a GOOD thing to put into your family's food) in situations he know not a thing he can't cut and paste out from studies sometimes funded by the industry at fault.

gala

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 03/07/2008

"MSG kills. My wife and millions of others are living proof." with no sense of irony whatsoever. Aren't more people sensitive to peanuts? Peanuts and shellfish can kill some people. No one is trying to outlaw peanuts or shellfish. If you can't eat it, don't. I don't care if people eat blowfish, horses or glue paste. There are groups that want to ban meat eating altogether. I have a nephew who wont eat anything he deems either too cute or too ugly. Bunnies and lobsters are safe but beware the chickens and cows. Some people hate fried foods. There are anti carbohydrate fanatics, ova lacto vegetariens, vegetariens and vegans, people who don't eat pork or red meat. I love vegetarien food, it makes wonderful side dishes. I thoroughly approve laws against eating endangered species except under extreme circumstances. Why should I be subject to the limitations of someone else's food allergies? There are valid debatable issues regarding food production, distribution and diet but the hypersensitivities of some people to some foods or additives don't rise to the occasion of banning something that obviously does not affect the vast majority. Damn the food police.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 03/06/2008

MSG is a neuroexcitotixin that accumulates in the brain and excites brain cells until their membranes break apart causing all sorts of damage. Read Russell Blaylock, "Neuroexcitotixins, the taste that kills". What makes it worse, all hydrolyzed vegetable proteins are neuroexcitotixins. Read the labels on your processed food and you will find MSG it all its forms...poison it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 03/06/2008

Oh! Please, do us all a favor and eat all the additives you want. Nuked foods as well and artificial colors and flavors. Have you tried formaldehyde? Try it, it might preserve you like all the junk food you eat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 03/05/2008

MSG is POISON to the human body and probably causes such things as alzheimers, cancer, Parkinsons, and many other neurological disorders! go to: www.truthinlabeling.org

MSG is an industry just like big tobacco that lobbies members of Congress and bureaucrats at the FDA to get more relaxed rules and regulations concerning MSG as an additive in food and drugs. As an example of their power note that no serious, unbaised government-funded study has been done since 1995 on the adverse health effects of MSG and other similar additives on humans (at least, none have been published!), while decades prior produced hundreds of studies that said just the opposite. These prior studies demonstrated the truth, that MSG is an excitotoxin, that it over-stimulates nerve cells resulting in nerve damage and death, thus causing all sorts of neurological disorders, from migraines to alzheimers.

Everyone is sensitive to MSG, but not everyone suffers the same effects. Some people are able to build up a certain level of tolerance, but will still become very ill if they consume adequate amouts of MSG. Others have no natural tolerance to MSG and other processed chemical food additives. These people, such as my wife, cannot go near most restaurants, cannot eat most processed foods found in the grocery store, have to check the labels of the foods they can have everytime they buy them for fear that the ingredients will change unannounced. The consequences of consuming MSG are migraines that last for months, dizziness, lethargy, severe mental confusion, heart palpitations, and possibly death, just to name a few. The sad reality here is that the number of people who suffer MSG sensitivity on this level is growing daily! The more processed foods we consume, the more likely it is that we are killing ourselves and our children, whose development is severly damaged by these chemicals.

PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE THE MSG SYMPATHIZERS!!!! MSG and other food additives are deadly! MSG is still around in abundance. Take a look at the ingredients list. Spices? MSG is a spice according to the FDA. Natural Flavors? MSG is considered natural by the FDA. These are just two of the most common hiding places of chemical additives like MSG that the food companies don't want you to know about. Its all processed Glutamate, no matter what form or name they give it, and its all deadly, no matter how many times they tell you it isn't. Are cigarettes healthy? Do you believe anything the tobacco industry tells you? Then why would you believe anything the MSG or Glutamate industries tell you?!?! Just because the author of this news article (who obviously does not suffer from severe MSG sensitivity) or some nutritionist paid by these lobbies says it's all safe DOES NOT MAKE IT SO! I live with this everyday of my life. I know how hard it is, and I know what the consequences are if I screw up. I don't want my wife to suffer, I don't want our children to suffer, and I'm tired of seeing increasing numbers of new alzheimers, cancer, and parkinsons patients in conjunction with more and more food additives being consumed unknowingly by Americans!

Read: Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills by Russell L. Blaylock, M.D., published 1994; In Bad Taste: The MSG Symptom Complex by George R. Schwartz, M.D., published 1999; and The Crazy Makers: How the Food Industry Is Destroying Our Brains and Harming Our Children by Carol Simontacchi, and then go to www.truthinlabeling.org and read more!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 03/05/2008

Too bad all of that has been thoroughly debunked. Glutamate and MSG have been used in cooking for centuries, and it is hardly the cause of alzheimer's, cancer, or parkinson's. Science always trumps hysteria.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 03/05/2008

MSG kills. My wife and millions of others are living proof. The founder of www.truthinlabeling.org is living proof, as he nearly died from consuming food containing MSG (you can check out his story on his site). Don't try to tell me that it's all crap, sir, as I live with this everyday. My wife has spent over a decade talking to doctors and specialists. The TRUTH is that MSG is dangerous and millions of us have to avoid it at all costs, or else we suffer. Just because you are fortunate enough to not be sensitive to Glutamate doesn't mean that there is not such a thing as Glutamate sensitivity. Do a little research about those who suffer from this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 03/05/2008

As for science -who is doing the studies? Who is funding them? Why is MSG used at all? Are you going to trust your own feelings or believe what some study says when it contradicts your experience?

MSG as a "flavor enhancer" works on your brain in a very clever way: it enhances "good" taste while suppressing "bad" taste. What does this mean for you? What does this mean for industry? It means they can use lower quality, less fresh ingredients. It means you buy lower quality, less fresh ingredients. How appetizing is that?

If you were sick and you did not know it, would you seek a cure?

If you get used to your illness, are you still sick?

Someday if you are unlucky enough to have to answer those questions for yourself you might find that MSG played a part in it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 03/05/2008

MSG has not been used for centuries.
It was isolated and developed after world war 2.

The Japanese, among the world's largest consumers of MSG, have found a direct correlation between the increasing incidence of near-sightedness and amount of tonnage of MSG being consumed.
In Thailand it is banned from school lunches .We haven't manged to protect our own kids. Increasingly asthmatic and burdened with learning disabilities as they are.
There is growing evidence that there is a correlation of MSG intake and the incidence of macular degeneration in the elderly.
And there is a possibility that sensitivity to it is crossing the placenta barrier, making generation susceptible at an earlier age.

It also affects the respiratory system, creates mental confusion and depression, and causes significant sinus pressure problems.

How do I know? I've had to deal with its consequences for the past fifteen years.
Days lost to horrendous headaches, near emergency room situations, sinus pain so intense that nothing can alleviate it--all because there is an additive hidden in American food that has no significant use and makes one out of ever six people symptomatic.
Some of us just know the hard way why we are feeling so poorly after some meals.

There is one thing that separates the people writing pro and con about MSG here.
Once you find it's making you seriously ill and that the government food standards have been lowered to way below what they were ten years ago, you have to literally take your life into your hands when eating fast or processed food where there is misleading labeling.

It's that so many people are now so ill because of something that doesn't even need to be in our food that is so criminal.
What it may prove to be doing to our kids and our elderly is not something that
can be cured, either.

gala

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 AM on 03/06/2008

This is completely without basis in fact. At least you toss in the word "probably" before all of your outrageous claims. This is the same kind of crap you see from the anti-aspartame nuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 03/05/2008

MSG kills. My wife and millions of others are living proof. The founder of www.truthinlabeling.org is living proof, as he nearly died from consuming food containing MSG (you can check out his story on his site). Don't try to tell me that it's all crap, sir, as I live with this everyday. My wife has spent over a decade talking to doctors and specialists. The TRUTH is that MSG is dangerous and millions of us have to avoid it at all costs, or else we suffer. Just because you are fortunate enough to not be sensitive to Glutamate doesn't mean that there is not such a thing as Glutamate sensitivity. Do a little research about those who suffer from this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 03/05/2008

It sounds like you sell MSG and Nutra(sic)Sweet products. Cutting into your business? How about having those things cut into your life?

How many people are effected? 1 in 10,000? 1 in 100,000? How would you like to be one of them? A small ratio does not make it a zero percent chance of experiencing an effect. If you don't experience anything, consider yourself lucky. Then again, how do you know that you aren't experiencing anything?

Now try to track that down. What other things are in the diet that can produce similar results? MSG and Nutra(sic)Sweet both behave in similar ways - on the brain. Got a hazy feeling? Does the world seem like you are looking through a layer of Saran wrap?

Snacks and pop and Chinese restaurants were never high on my list. I got lucky - I was able to eventually make an association between what I was feeling and what I was getting into. I got tuned in enough to realize when something was happening - then, like clockwork, a look at the label reveals MSG. Or, as the case may be, Nutra(sic)Sweet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 03/05/2008
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