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First Posted: 03- 5-08 10:10 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:46 AM

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The Obama camp appears to be laying ground for pushing back against Hillary Clinton's latest campaign attacks, even if that means taking a negative approach themselves. The difficulty, as has been noted in the past, is maintaining the positive approach that has dominated his campaign while still drawing contrast with the Clintons.

Obama campaign manager David Axelrod claimed last night:

"If Sen. Clinton wants to take the debate to various places, we'll join that debate. We'll do it on our terms and in our own way but if she wants to make issues like ethics and disclosure and law firms and real estate deals and all that stuff issues, as I've said before I don't know why they'd want to go there, but I guess that's where they'll take the race.''

The Associated Press cites an anonymous Obama aide:

A senior Obama adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Obama's team will respond to Tuesday's results by going negative on Clinton -- raising questions about her tax records and the source of donations to the Clinton presidential library, among skeletons in the Clintons' past.

And Obama is challenging Hillary's claims to be a better Commander-in-Chief:

"I hope people start asking is what exactly is this foreign experience she is claiming," he said. "Was she handling crises during this period of time? I haven't seen any evidence that she is more equipped to handle a crisis.


"She made the experience argument and her ability to handle a crisis, so I think it is important to examine that claim and not just allow her to assert it," he added. "She has made the argument that she is thoroughly vetted. If the suggestion is somehow that on issue of ethics or disclosure or transparency that she is somehow going to have a better record than I have or could (better) withstand Republican attack, then that should be tested."

Meanwhile, the Associated Press is reporting that some superdelegates worry about future attacks. Donna Brazile, a Democratic strategist, had this to say to the Associated Press:

"Despite Obama's impressive victories in February, Clinton's comeback is based on sowing political seeds of doubt," said Donna Brazile, a Democratic strategist and one of nearly 800 party leaders known as superdelegates for their ability to determine the nomination. "In order to clinch the nomination, he must anticipate the worst attacks ever."...


..."If these attacks are contrasts based on policy differences, there is no need to stop the race or halt the debate," Brazile said. "But, if this is more division, more diversion from the issues and more of the same politics of personal destruction, chairman Dean and other should be on standby."

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UPDATE: The Obama camp has released a memo criticizing Clinton for refusing to release her tax returns. David Axelrod reinforced the message saying Clinton had "a history of nondisclosure," after promising that "the vetting of Hillary Clinton has yet to start."

Read the memo:

TO: Interested Parties FR: The Obama Campaign RE: TAX RETURNS: What does Clinton have to hide?

DA: March 5, 2008

The Clinton campaign today maintained that "the vetting of Barack Obama has just begun." The truth is, more than a year into this campaign, some very simple vetting of Hillary Clinton has yet to start.

In the face of her unwillingness to release her tax returns, Hillary Clinton has made the false case in this campaign that she is more electable because she has been fully vetted. When it comes to her personal finances, Senator Clinton's refusal to release her taxes returns denies the media and the American people the opportunity to even begin that process. Though her campaign has tried to kick the issue down the road, Democratic voters deserve to know, right now, why it is she is hiding the information in her tax returns from last year.

The Clinton campaign has said that they have released copious amounts of financial information but there are many questions about their private dealings that could be answered in their tax returns but not in the information that is currently available. For example, here are eight pieces of information that could be learned from her tax returns, the accompanying schedules, and attachments:

Effective tax rate - including whether or not any tax shelters were used to reduce it
Amount of income for spouses by source
Amount of stock gains and losses
Gross income for the couple
Amount earned from stock dividends
Amount of household employment taxes paid
Personal exemptions taken
Charitable contributions made

Senator Clinton has also claimed that she is too "busy" to release her tax returns. Given the fact she is able to loan her campaign $5 million, you would think the Clintons would be able to hire an accountant. The reality is that she wants to keep this information hidden from voters. The people of Wyoming, Mississippi, Pennsylvania and the rest of the country should wonder why.

The Clintons' record on releasing tax returns:

FEBRUARY 2008: Clinton Reiterated That She Would Not Release Her Tax Records Until She Is The Nominee And Not Before Mid-April. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton says she won't release her tax returns until she has the Democratic presidential nomination in hand, and not before tax filing time comes in mid-April. "I will release my tax returns," Clinton said during the debate. "I have consistently said I will do that once I become the nominee, or even earlier." Pressed about the timing of releasing her tax returns, campaign aides were more reticent Wednesday, indicating that Clinton would not release the sensitive financial data during a hotly contested primary, but only at tax filing time. [AP, 2/27/08 ]

JUNE 2007: Clinton Does Not Plan to Release Her Tax Returns Until Next Year. According to the Washington Post, Clinton said through a spokesman that, "like past presidential candidates," she will "release tax information in the election year." [Washington Post , 6/19/07]

APRIL 12, 1996: Clinton Released His Tax Returns. President Clinton and his wife earned $316,074 in 1995, including the president's $200,000 salary, according to tax returns released Friday by the White House. The public release of the tax returns, three days before the April 15 filing deadline, shows that Clinton and first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton are owed a refund of $5,656 on the $81,093 they paid in taxes, and will apply that refund to their 1996 income taxes. [UPI, 4/12/96]

April 15, 1992: Bill Clinton Made His Tax Returns Public. APRIL 15, 1992: Bill Clinton made his tax returns made public. [Los Angeles Times, 4/16/93]

Bill Clinton Released His Tax Returns In 1992 But Refused To Release Their Tax Returns From Before 1980. During the 1992 campaign, the Clintons claimed to be coming clean by releasing their tax returns from 1980 forward. But they steadfastly refused to release their returns for prior years, and only later did we learn that 1978 and 1979 were the tax years when Mrs. Clinton reported her 10,000% cattle-futures trading profit. [WSJ, 2/22/08 ]

UPDATE: The Hillary camp has responded with a statement from Howard Wolfson:

Faced with many legitimate questions about Senator Obama's long-time relationship with indicted political fixer Tony Rezko, the Obama campaign has chosen to lash out at Senator Clinton.

Here are the facts:

Over 20 years of the Clintons' tax returns are in the public domain.

Their tax returns since they left the White House will be made available on or around April 15.

This information will be in addition to 15 years of uninterrupted public financial disclosure reports.

Instead of making false attacks, we urge Senator Obama to release all relevant financial and other information related to indicted political fixer Tony Rezko.

***STORY UPDATES BELOW*** The Obama camp appears to be laying ground for pushing back against Hillary Clinton's latest campaign attacks, even if that means taking a negative approach themselves. The...
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Maybe because she is more concerned with winning an election to put her in a position to bring our soldiers home the day she goes back to The White House - so she can to bring our country back to the state or normalcy, safety, and where America yet again shines as the beacon of hope we know it can be and will be with her leadership. Where hopes become reality, and dreams manifest into our lives with substance and prosperity for all. If that isn't representing all people, I don't know what is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 03/05/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

Silly rabbit send the accountant - the women lent herself 5mm so I'm pretty sure she has one. They should have been done and filed years ago. How long would it take you to get a copy of your last 2 years of tax returns - certainly not longer than it would take to appear on SNL or 6 different morning shows. This is important to the people she is representing - we want to make sure that everything is above board as with all other candidates in this race so far who have made their tax returns available.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 03/05/2008

Considering her husband is a GENIUS at balancing a multi BILLIION DOLLAR deficit into the Biggest SURPLUS this country has EVER SEEN, makes me worry not if one decimal is out of place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 03/05/2008
- ICUP I'm a Fan of ICUP 4 fans permalink

Maybe it's because Bill's taken various and sundry bribes to fix things for Kazahkstani dictators and uranium mining concerns.

Maybe it's because Mark Rich, the Chinese communists, and Hsu slid some cash to his foundation.

Maybe it's because Hugh Rodham and Roger Clinton tossed Bill and Hillary kickbacks in exchange for pardons for their clients.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 03/05/2008
- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

No Hsu funds will have been filtered to the Clinton Foundation. Hsu was tasked to facilitae friendly US Politicians via the DNC and directly to whatever candidate he was told to funnel funds too. The higher up the US political hierachy the more funds get allocated. But always spread the grease around...

The Donations to any foundation would be controlled by a different arm of the Triad...mo­st probably an overseas entity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 03/05/2008
- lokywoky I'm a Fan of lokywoky 2 fans permalink

Hillary is NOT going to bring all the soldiers home. She has stated publicly over and over that she would THINK about beginning a withdrawal sometime in the first year of her supposed Presidency. BUT she would leave a number of troops there to "help continue training Iraqi troops, guard the new gargantuan US Embassy in Baghdad, and also to maintain, guard and whatever all the 11 illegal bases we have built and are continuing to build in this country. Military.com estimates it will take about 60,000 troops to perform these tasks. So she is NOT going to bring all the troops hom. Maybe half. Maybe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 03/05/2008

Yes, the first thing that is needed is a plan to withdrawl. The current POTUS hasn't asked for one from the military. Hillary asked for one last year and got nowhere because she isn't entitled to one. The real question is when intense diplomacy will begin so that there really is a reason to bring combat troops home. Barack is in the same boat that Hillary is in (and in fact voted for the same funding bills that Hillary did)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 03/05/2008
- sklfcats I'm a Fan of sklfcats 4 fans permalink

MC CAIN WILL NEVER EVER BRING THE TROOPS HOME

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 03/05/2008
- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

You really believe the crap you type? Sen Clinton's vote to allow millitay action in Iraq has produced the following casualties to our Troopers

DOD confirms a total of 3974 Dead US Troopers in Iraq & an additional 29080 maimed and injured US Troopers. http://icasualties.org/oif/

The Iraqi action alone is estimated to cost the US taxpayer about 3-5 TRILLION Dollars!!!

Normalcy? Her vote helped Bubble Boy Bush & Darth Cheney turn the US into a debtor nation!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 03/05/2008

Hillary's vote for the War resolution was an act of political expediency. She felt that to win the Presidency as a female candidate, she had to prove that she could be tough on military matters. She did not need to bother to read the classified intelligence which showed how flimsy the Bush administration's case was because the reason for the vote was not because of any fear of a real threat, but because she needed to demonstrate that she could be tough on military matters.

It isn't about the sodiers, it isn't about the problems of ordinary people. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT HER!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 03/05/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

I have to say the Clinton Campaign is genius at avoiding questions did you watch Clintons representative basically treat Tucker Carlson like a complete idiot and when he said to her I don't like to be patronized. She said I respect you Tucker. Talk about patronizing. I like Tucker but he got played.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 03/05/2008
- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

Its taking forever for Texas to tally up the damn caucus delegates.­..

http://precinctconventionresults.txdemocrats.org/election08district

No Texa caucus delegates awarded yet. I wonder where the heck the MSM if finding caucus delegates to award either candidate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 03/05/2008
- sklfcats I'm a Fan of sklfcats 4 fans permalink

Good Lord is Obama ugly.. Maybe she is busy trying to kick your sorry ass .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 03/05/2008
- ICUP I'm a Fan of ICUP 4 fans permalink

That's pure Clinton/Carville right there. Launch personal attacks rather than address the issues. Look at how well it worked on Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Newt Gingrich, and Bob Dole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 03/05/2008
- specultr I'm a Fan of specultr 6 fans permalink

It's the Clinton demographic education problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 03/05/2008

O'Reilly is doing a story on the hate on this site directed at Hillary Clinton in a few minutes on his show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 03/05/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

You can't seriously care what Bill O thinks - why are you watching that parade of ignorance otherwise known as Fox

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 03/05/2008

I agree with you about him, but I still like to see what they're saying sometimes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 03/05/2008
- lungfish I'm a Fan of lungfish 106 fans permalink
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Can some Hillary supporter explain to us why she didn't vote on the FISA bill and has nothing to say about the Dems caving in to the GOP on telecom immunity? She was in Arlington, at work managing her campaign, so why wasn't she representing the people who elected her in this important vote?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 03/05/2008
- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

Well it might have something to do with the donation from the tele communications pac.

http://www.fec.gov/disclosure.shtml

http://www.opensecrets.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 03/05/2008

and what difference would her vote have made. It is the majority whip's job to contact members of their party to inform them when their vote is critical to the passage of a bill. Here's a summary:

On November 15, 2007, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 10-9 along party lines to send an alternative measure to the full Senate other than the one the intelligence committee had crafted with the White House. The proposal would leave to the full Senate whether or not to provide retroactive immunity to telecommunications firms that cooperated with the NSA. Judiciary Committee chairman Patrick Leahy said that granting such immunity would give the Bush administration a "blank check" to do what it wants without regard to the law. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the top Republican on the committee, said that court cases may be the only way Congress can learn exactly how far outside the law the administration has gone in eavesdropping in the United States. When the full Senate takes up the bill, Specter is expected to offer a compromise that would shield the companies from financial ruin but allow lawsuits to go forward by having the federal government stand in for the companies at trial.

On the same day, the House of Representatives voted 227-189 to approve a Democratic bill that would expand court oversight of government surveillance inside the United States while denying immunity to telecom companies. House Judiciary Committee chairman John Conyers left the door open to an immunity deal in the future, but said that the White House must first give Congress access to classified documents specifying what the companies did that requires legal immunity.

So.. it wouldn't make a difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 03/05/2008
- griffon2k I'm a Fan of griffon2k 2 fans permalink

It would make a difference. It would show the American public WHO Hillary stands with, the American citizens she talks about fighting for or the Telecoms who just happen to lobby for her.

It's one of a long line of questions on the judgment she's demonstrated in her experience.

It's time to show just what makes her "vetted" and experienced other than more time in Washington.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 03/05/2008

Maybe because she is more concerned with winning an election to put her in a position to bring our soldiers home the day she goes back to The White House - so she can to bring our country back to the state or normalcy, safety, and where America yet again shines as the beacon of hope we know it can be and will be with her leadership. Where hopes become reality, and dreams manifest into our lives with substance and prosperity for all. If that isn't representing all people, I don't know what it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 03/05/2008
- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

ROFLMAO...­Bring the soldiers back that she helped send there? Normalcy? 3-5 Trillion Dollars is the ultimate price tag for her vote to take military action in Iraq. Get a damn clue. She helped Bubble Boy Bush and Darth Cheney bankrupt us!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 03/05/2008
- lokywoky I'm a Fan of lokywoky 2 fans permalink

Hillary is NOT going to bring all the soldiers home. She has stated publicly over and over that she would THINK about beginning a withdrawal sometime in the first year of her supposed Presidency. BUT she would leave a number of troops there to "help continue training Iraqi troops, guard the new gargantuan US Embassy in Baghdad, and also to maintain, guard and whatever all the 11 illegal bases we have built and are continuing to build in this country. Military.com estimates it will take about 60,000 troops to perform these tasks. So she is NOT going to bring all the troops hom. Maybe half. Maybe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 03/05/2008
- Ajita I'm a Fan of Ajita 82 fans permalink
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She's going to bring the troops back from the un-necessary war she sent them to die in, you said? Words work better with actions, you know, like Obama's. To defend Clinton, use empty accusations like she does. Thats all she's got.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 03/05/2008
- ICUP I'm a Fan of ICUP 4 fans permalink

If all people are corporate donors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 03/05/2008
- SLone08 I'm a Fan of SLone08 5 fans permalink

I think Wolfson needs an intern. You should look into it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 03/05/2008

maybe it is the same reason Obama didn't vote on it either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 03/05/2008
- griffon2k I'm a Fan of griffon2k 2 fans permalink

Obama voted no....nice try.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 03/05/2008
- argent1 I'm a Fan of argent1 16 fans permalink

O-bla-dee, O-ba-ma, life goes on BRA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 03/05/2008
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Come on Obama you need to kick her in the box harder than that. You should have asked her about her broken promise to Ohio with Al Gore when they were supposed to prevent a chemical waste plant being built by an elementary school. She promises and then appoints a corporate ally who winds up approving the plans and now the kids have 6 times the amounts of mercury and other horrible substance in their bodies. That would have been fun to watch her squirm over that one.

Or ask her why they have never answered for whitewater. Ask her if her 35 years of experience including drilling 12 year old rape victim is adequate enough training for the Oval Office.

There are so many bigger things to go after than her taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 03/05/2008

Ah! The clueless-H­ussein-Hel­ium-Inhali­ng-Herd! $40M of the tax payers' monies and years of "investigations" by the mucus Ken Starr and Repugnants against the Clintons produced zilch! Zip! Nada! They found a "blue stained dress"!

But nothing has changed, the erstwhile boney-assed-Nader's herd is now the Hussein-He­lium-Inhal­ing-Herd. Nothing's changed ... same rants, same baying at the moon ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 03/05/2008
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I don't respond to bigots who have nothing but lame fear mongering. You are bigot and and your very ignorant. You know nothing else but to say his middle name. You're sad and you're pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 03/05/2008
- atlantajoe I'm a Fan of atlantajoe 8 fans permalink

non sensible, you must not like facts because Starr got 14 convictions including GOVENOR Jim Guy Tucker and a judge named Hale. Other than the 14 convictions he convicted no one. Clueless is what you call someone the calls themselves sensible.
FOURTEEN CONVICTIONS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 03/05/2008

Where can we post these things to be seen, seriously? The "media" isn't paying attention Who reads these blogs? Hmmm....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 03/05/2008
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Yeah I am outraged too that media refuses to do it. I don't keep emailing the Obama camp. Send them your concerns and suggest that this is what he should be drilling her on. We are the American people who demand answers not just from here but from him as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 03/05/2008

You are talking nonsense and spreading false data reports to play dirty politics. Experience matters. ( You have nothing except maybe a musical performance - to follow up with what you just said. )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 03/05/2008
- SLone08 I'm a Fan of SLone08 5 fans permalink

Please list the "experience" Hillary has that makes her a more qualified candidate than Barack? What legislative accomplishments has she had? National Security experience (other than sitting on a committee)?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 03/05/2008
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I absolutely am not. Her experience is bunk. And none of them have Commander in Chief experience. Experience by proxy doesn't mean automatic respect. Get over yourself.

If anything her ass should be thrown out of the democratic party for suggesting a republican is more qualified than her own party member to president. She threw her own party member under the bus for personal gain. That's a "me first screw everything else" attitude. And she is bigot for insinuating to the American people that being a Muslim or having ties that way makes you a terrorist. She owns millions of Americans an apology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 03/05/2008
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No, the story about the incinerator in Ohio (built next to a school) is very true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 03/05/2008
- riverhouse I'm a Fan of riverhouse 47 fans permalink

I think Hillary's tax returns are quite pertinent. Her campaign tries to make it appear that it is the soon to be due '07 returns in question, but she has not released the '06 and earlier returns from any year since Bill left the presidency. But there is another issue I think due attention and that is that the Clinton campaign photos of Obama are deliberately darkening the photos to make his skin tone darker and, I suppose, more threatening to white voters. The Daily Kos has a full expose of this dirty trick of the Clinton campaign. I wonder if the msm will pick up on this and question Hillary about this blatant act of racism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 03/05/2008

"Blatant act of racism"?! The only act of blatant racism is by the Black community! How they conveniently forgot why they revered the Clintons! Why Bill Clinton was the "First Black President"?! What has half-black Hussein done for the Black community?!

Rallying behind a politician­/candidate STRICTLY on the basis of skin color/race is RACISM! That racism is alive and well in Black America ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 03/05/2008
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But the feminists say we should rally behind Clinton simply because she as a vagina. Maybe do your research before chiming in you hypocrite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 03/05/2008
- specultr I'm a Fan of specultr 6 fans permalink

Sensible,

You come across like an Archie Bunker type of racist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 03/05/2008
- atlantajoe I'm a Fan of atlantajoe 8 fans permalink

More nonsense, racism is thinking you are better than another because of your race.
A black taking pride in a black politician might be bias but it is not racist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 03/05/2008
- veracity I'm a Fan of veracity 75 fans permalink

"Sensible," you are parroting Adria's line of logic, that because HRC is a woman, and because "it is due" that we elect a woman president, we therefore _owe_ our vote to her. Youboth have got to be kidding!
Maybe Blacks are voting for B.H.O. because, well, you know, Bush lied us in to a war, wrecked our economy and reputation, looted our treasury, outsourced our jobs and technology, and claims the right to wiretap or torture anyone he wants to... with _no_ oversigtht by anyone! HRC has been pretty _silent_ on that record. I could make the same complaint about B.H.O., but we all agree that the first year or two for a senator in the senate is not the time for them to make waves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 03/05/2008
- kat7 I'm a Fan of kat7 permalink

Where are your medical records, Obama?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 03/05/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

I know you are upset but let this go - there is nothing wrong with dark skin - and making a big deal about it makes no sense and only adds fuel to the fire. I guess in a flier we could make her 15lb heavier. This is really not an issue the voters know he is black - if they are threatened because he is a couple of shades darker they weren't going to vote for him anyway. The muslim thing is an issue, disrespecting black voters and Sen Obama himself is an issue, this is not one worth getting upset about. Black is beautiful. That's my take - in fairness I must disclose I'm a white chick so feel free to tell me to shut up and I don't know what I am talking about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 03/05/2008
- snowcat I'm a Fan of snowcat 23 fans permalink

FUN FACT: Hillary didn't write her books herself and failed to credit her ghostwriters. How dare she attack his words!!

Mahesh Grossman, a ghostwriter for Sen. Hillary Clinton blows the whistle on what it's like working with the former first lady.
"Writing with Senator Clinton is like marrying Zsa-Zsa Gabor," notes Grossman. "You're guaranteed it'll be a bumpy ride and that it won't last long. In just three books, Clinton has gone through five ghostwrite­rs."

Find more here that states what Barack is as a writer! Just words??!:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/22/opinion/main3865576.shtml

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 03/05/2008

That's what Barack Hussein should be and remain ... a writer ... he is a paper tiger after all ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 03/05/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

You know when you only use his first and second name followed by stupid baseless insults people assume you are a KKK member or Rush listener - I know they are not mutually exclusive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 03/05/2008

re: tax returns

I haven't completed my taxes yet either. Have you? When HRC's are done, they'll be released (by April 15).

btw, when is Sen. Obama going to release those Rezko files?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 03/05/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

You are going to pay a huge fine I'm suprised the IRS hasn't visited. Your taxes are between 3 to 1 year late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 03/05/2008
- nohat I'm a Fan of nohat 7 fans permalink

I can't believe it.
After treating Obama with contempt---"His experience consists of one speech he gave in 2002"---and after damaging him with innuendos---"He isn't a muslim...a­s far as I know", Hillary dares to hint at a dream ticket. With herself on the top of the ticket, of course. In my view, this kind of attitude shows extreme arrogance. It must stem from her 'sense of entitlement'. She uses the phrase 'lifetime of experience' the way an heir to a throne uses the phrase 'lifetime of preparation' (for the crown). And anyone who saw her acceptance speech last night in Ohio, would have seen that she is not gracious in victory, but rather, cocky.
To expect someone you have belittled and mocked to run on a ticket with you, is insolent;
and to suggest that he run on that ticket as second, when you are the one way behind in delegates, is just plain nuts.
If I were Obama, I'd tell her to take a hike.
One thing I know: these are not traits that I want to see in a president. It'd be like having Atilla the Hun in the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 03/05/2008

His entire experience CAN fit on a post-it with room to spare
He was born a Muslim and raised a Muslim and spent a few years at a Wahabi Madrasa in Indonesia. His Father is a Muslim and so is his step-father
He IS all talk, no substance/All FLUFF no track record
He IS just a paper tiger

He is Barack Hussein Obama, an empty suit

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 03/05/2008
- snowcat I'm a Fan of snowcat 23 fans permalink

she needs his words!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 03/05/2008
- nohat I'm a Fan of nohat 7 fans permalink

You might be right, snowcat, and what else? His votes. She wants those millions and millions of Obama votes. (Even the ones from the 'fainting women', I bet.) I can't stand much more. I've tried to like her or at least understand her, even though I never supported her (nor will I ever). But I can't. She is just using him, she knows he's a winner. How can she even look at him after doing the things I mentioned above? Let alone ask him to be her VP. I just want to run up on a rooftop and shout to the world, "Hey! Everybody! You won't believe what Hillary is planning!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 03/05/2008
- snowcat I'm a Fan of snowcat 23 fans permalink

Now I know why Hillz is jealous of Baracks oratory and ability with words:

FUN FACT:
At least Barack wrote his own books by himself. Hillary had a ghostwriter for It Takes A Village and never credited her on the book. She also tried to not pay her:
Mahesh Grossman, a ghostwriter for Sen. Hillary Clinton blows the whistle on what it's like working with the former first lady. "Writing with Senator Clinton is like marrying Zsa-Zsa Gabor," notes Grossman. "You're guaranteed it'll be a bumpy ride and that it won't last long. In just three books, Clinton has gone through five ghostwrite­rs."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 03/05/2008

Stop spreading the lies

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 03/05/2008

This is so much hogwash...­who cares about HER tax returns?
Over the years, she's made plenty of them public!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 03/05/2008
- snowcat I'm a Fan of snowcat 23 fans permalink

Have any of her Democratic opponents, including Obama, sought more detailed answers from her about stories such as:

* Norman Hsu and his bundling of money for her campaign?

* How "dishwashers, waiters and others" poured "$1,000 and $2,000 contributions into Clinton's campaign treasury?"

* Bill's trip to Kazakhstan with Canadian magnate, Frank Giustra, that netted Giustra $3 billion and Bill's foundation a $131 million contribution from Giustra?

* How powerful foreign donors to Bill's presidential library, such as the Saudis, may pose a serious conflict of interest to Hillary's foreign policy actions as president?

* How Bill's tangled ties to an investment concern of Clinton friend, Ron Burkle, and it's dealings with Dubai may yet, again, threaten to compromise Hillary Clinton's execution of foreign policy as president?

* The fact that the with all of these questionable financial dealings, the Clintons have been unwilling to release their tax returns, especially in light of Hillary Clinton claiming that the $5 million she lent the campaign was "her own money?"

* And, finally, though we, as Democrats, don't care who Bill schtupps (and, no, none of us believe he has kept his fly zipped the last seven years), you can be damn sure the Republicans will be digging hard (no pun intended) to see just what Bill has been up to since leaving office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 03/05/2008

Investigated, Reported On, State Department, Justice Department, Informed about when, everyone gets donations for their library.. Gosh with you people it's the same old garbage over and over and over and over and over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 03/05/2008
- snowcat I'm a Fan of snowcat 23 fans permalink

not between 200-2007 and look what's in them: see my post below :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 03/05/2008

It's because she is wealthy. Democrats hate wealthy people apparently. It doesn't "play" well. I could care less about her tax returns. I hope when she does release it we find a big fat donation from Rush. Remember when your mom told you to worry about what you are doing and not what everyone else is doing? LOL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 03/05/2008

Obama needs to position his new approach simply as TRUTH attacks...­an endless 24/7 loop of all truths about the Clinton years, Hillary, Bill, the distortions, the lies, the race-baiti­ng...all of it.

Remember Obama campaign: TRUTH attacks, not negative attacks, all the way to the White House...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 03/05/2008

Absolutely that everything needs to be the truth, no one wants to stoop to the Hillary levels. That said, voters have a right to truth and information in order to make better decisions. After 7 years of Bush, many Americans are nostaglic about the Clinton era. But they forget all the constant scandals that kept anything from getting done. We need to remember both the good and the bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 03/05/2008
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