Bravo Santa Cruz!

Tonight on Lou Dobbs:

1. Uneducated Immigrants taking our jobs
2. NAFTA Highway brings about the end of human civilization
3. George Bush makes a silly comment
4. Bill Clinton makes a silly comment

Interesting line up, Lou. How about instead you fill us in on how two hollow aluminum airliners were able to effortless glide through the reinforced steel and concrete towers of the World Tade Center, violating all known laws of physics?

Nah, that stuff's boring. Let's get an update on Angelina Jolie's baby instead. Now that's hard-hitting journalism.

You are all apes.

These illegals ain't facing the Gestapo, they are facing american justice... They came here illegally, they avoid detection by a variety of unlawful means (including the borrowing of your SSN's), they bankrupt health care service by using emergency rooms as their free clinics, many work under the table and, thus, avoid paying takes, and they work for less then there american counterparts and drive down wages and benefits in the process... I'm going to turn my two television set on this next month and tune them both to Lou Dobbs... Without him, the misguided Immigration Reform legislation that Kennedy, McCain and LaRaza drafted last year would be law and it was a terrible piece of legislation.... Go ICE... Round them up and ship them out... American is a great place to live for those who come here and live here as a law-abiding citizen... Just because 20 million were able to sneak across the border doesn't make the law s or the enforcement of those laws a bad thing...

Lou Dobbs had an African American gentleman from New Jersey on one show. This man showed Lou his ancestor's manumission papers and started tearing up. Seems his two sons are skilled carpenters and they cannot get work because illegal immigrant laborers will work for 1/2 of what they charge, maybe less. Grandsons of African American Slaves cannot get work in their trade near their hometown because of illegal immigrant labor.

I think Lou Dobbs makes a lot of sense most of the time.

Mr Coonerty inherited his spot in local politics from his daddy, who was once a mayor and is now on the Bd of Supes. The original family business is bookselling, and their Bookshop Santa Cruz is the center of downtown for the literate, as the movie houses across the street are for them as ain't. Our town is well known for taking on the big issues. We are, probably still and since the Sandinistas were born, a free port for Nicaragua. We do not welcome US Navy ships, however, only those from Nicaragua. From somewhere out along Swift Street to the Yacht Harbor we are a Nuclear-Free Zone, so if you want to build a reactor you must move to Live Oak. Santa Cruz once used to laugh about its "Ugly Law" which prohibited hiring or rental discrimination against anyone because he was pierced, short, too tall or ugly. There is much complaining, more than you'll find in Darfur; those who live beside the tracks whine about trains, and those who move beside the harbor complain of dredging, and everyone bellyaches about traffic, rent, jobs, schools, dogs, cats, and the fact that everyone is always complaining.

It's nice to get out of town for a change. This is why politicians in our community often seek inspiration from DC. It's the same reason those goons who live in DC start international wars; home is just too depressing and an utterly hopeless prospect anyway.

where millions illegal thats make liberal Win election and rate school number 50

"TECHO-FUEDALISM - a transitional era of entrepreneurial 'SUPERCAPITALISM' in the early twenty first century United States (see; Nation States - elementary steps in human evolution), that disregarded national borders, boundaries, or treaties, (see; "globalism") in order to consolidate it's commercial, labor, and mercantile markets from a regional economic apparatus to a global one. Its wealthiest proponents held that MARKETS, not countries, were the keys to the future. In turn, the so-called "unwashed masses," beneficiaries of mid 20th century socialized democracy (see; Roosevelt, Franklin D., New Deal, middle-class), tried to challenge the status-quo through a rag-tag and rough-shod labor nationalist movement that sought to alleviate their economic demise through racial/ethnic cleansing (see; mass arrest, deportation, defamation through network media, i.e. television) of recently arrived workers to what they referred to as "their country." This "nationalist" movement was doomed to failure from the start due to the increase of skilled/non-skilled labor productivity around the rest of the globe. The super capitalist mega-corporation could shift its headquarters, as well as its manufacturing centers, to anywhere in the world without regard to so-called "citizens" labor movements. The "Racial Purges of the Ancient United States," as they would come to be known, are today regarded as another dark chapter in the history of our planet. Yet without such despicable acts being committed on other human beings there could never have been the hope of "the Re-enlightenment" period that followed this tumultuous era in our world's history."

J.A. Mons Caunos
Dir. Earth Histoanthropology
Univ. of Mars Olympus
2110 A.D.

If Americans could get paid a decent wage for farm work they would do it. It is the hardest, most grueling, thankless job, and the workers should be paid a livable wage for making it possible for us all to eat.

I live on an island, and when I was young, there were no jobs here except to sell Avon, and do farm work. I stood in the rain or sweltering sun for eight hours a day pruning flowers. Sat on the back of a truck in the rain eating my lunch, and my boyfriend had to wear a protective suit and respirator and walk around poisoning weeds all day- rain or scorching sunshine. We earned just over a dollar an hour then, in the 70's. Even as caretakers of a property with no rent to pay, we could not make it. We finally had to leave our island, and find work in the mainland US until such time as we had acquired some new skills to support us back here in Hawaii. I have a lot of aloha for farm workers, as a result of my experiences.

"TECHO-FUEDALISM - a transitional era of entrepreneurial 'SUPERCAPITALISM' in the early twenty first century United States (see; Nation States - elementary steps in human evolution), that disregarded national borders, boundaries, or treaties, (see; "globalism") in order to consolidate it's commercial, labor, and mercantile markets from a regional economic apparatus to a global one. Its wealthiest proponents held that MARKETS, not countries, were the keys to the future. In turn, the so-called "unwashed masses," beneficiaries of mid 20th century socialized democracy (see; Roosevelt, Franklin D., New Deal, middle-class), tried to challenge the status-quo through a rag-tag and rough-shod labor nationalist movement that sought to alleviate their economic demise through racial/ethnic cleansing (see; mass arrest, deportation, defamation through network media, i.e. television, Nazi Germany) of recently arrived workers to what they referred to as "their country." This "nationalist" movement was doomed to failure from the start due to the increase of skilled/non-skilled labor productivity around the rest of the globe. The super capitalist mega-corporation could shift its headquarters, as well as its manufacturing centers, to anywhere in the world without regard to so-called "citizens" labor movements. The "Racial Purges of the Ancient United States," as they would come to be known, are today regarded as another dark chapter in the history of our planet. Yet without such despicable acts being committed on other human beings there could never have been the hope of "the Re-enlightenment" period that followed this tumultuous era in our world's history."

J.A. Mons Caunos
Dir. Earth Histoanthropology
Univ. of Mars Olympus Mons
2110 A.D.

exerpts from the book: "Notes From Mars"

Keep up the xenophobic racist rhetoric you haters. Yea lets have more of the right wing funny stuff , "Next the signs will be replaced by a face with a mustachio and sombrero, deport the anchor babies, Gutter Spanish will soon be taught in our US Schools," yea real funny, but we US citizens of Mexican heritage are listening closely and this crap is nothing new. Many of us who felt that we were good Americans, born here, or who's family's have been here for hundreds of years, served this country in time of war and peace, who's family's have suffered from discrimination and prejudice in the past but fought through it and have been successful, who thought we of Mexican heritage were part of the mainstream, oh now we see and hear what's really in a lot of peoples hearts.

Even though many Mexican Americans also feel that our borders need to be secured and that a more comprehensive immigration program needs to be put in place, even though some of us have voted Republican and maybe Conservatives , we now see how the right wing haters would use poor Mexicans who are just looking for a better life for their family's, just like many of our ancestors suffered in the quest for a better life, as new convenient scapegoats for an economy that has been raped by the current Republican administration for the last eight years and now is collapsing, But oh no, lets blame all our problems and afflictions on the Mexican "illegal Aliens" yea that's a nice smokescreen.

Even though I have been financially successful and can afford to live in a nice home, give my children a good education and more opportunity than I or my ancestors had, even though my children hardly speak the Spanish language at all, even though many of us of Mexican ancestry have been homogenized and by and large 100% Americans, even though all this has taken place, many of us can still remember our grandparents and great grandparents who looked and acted just like the present day Mexican Immigrants who spoke little or no English, many were or practically illiterate, who had different and sometimes funny and odd cultural traits and customs, who's culture and music and history was almost completely foreign to us American raised offspring.
And even though many years have passed and most of those ancestors are now long gone, we Mexican Americans were taught to respect and honor those ancestors for their perseverance, the love they had for the family above all else, the sense of humor and irony despite the tragedy and sorrow they had in their lives. The love and support they gave us even though many times we didn't even speak the same language anymore.
All these things we Americans of Mexican heritage can see in these more recent immigrants and we Mexican Americans are the fastest growing segment of the population at the present and have long memories so you haters and xenophobes just keep up the odious rhetoric if you think it may get you some votes or some relief from your own disappointments, but just remember that the chickens always come home to roost.


Leviticus 16:8, when God orders the high priest Aaron to "place lots upon the 2 goats, one marked for the Lord and the other marked for Azazel" on the Jewish Day of Atonement. The goat designated by lot for the Lord is to be used as a sin offering, while the goat designated for Azazel "shall be left standing alive before the Lord, to make expiation with it and to send it off to the wilderness to Azazel" (Lev. 16:10). Aaron was to "lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat and confess over it all the iniquities and transgressions of the Israelites, whatever their sins, putting them on the head of the goat; and it shall be sent off to the wilderness by someone designated for the task. Thus the goat shall carry on it all their iniquities to an inaccessible region; and the goat shall be set free in the wilderness"

whether or not you agree with dobbs, and on many issues i don't, at least give him credit for engaging in an intelligent discussion on an important issue. he freely gives a platform to opposing views and debates the issue from an intellectually honest position. what's wrong with that? would you rather be talking about what name hillary was called today or whether or not the clinton campaign darkened a picture of obama? i think not. the guy is not an idiot just because you don't agree with him, and the fact that so many people think like that is one of the big problems in our politics today.

Dobbs goes full bore after the illegals but says nothing about the corrupt Mexican or Central American governments and business that create the real cause for all these people to flee "Norte".
Lou, why not go after those corrupt officials who could give a care less about their own people and let the "gingo's" take care of the mess.

I am way ahead on this one. I turned Dobbs off months ago after becoming fed up with the nightly anti-Mexican diatribes and listening to him call anyone with whom he disagrees an "idiot." Dobbs is just a bigot masquerading as champion of the middle-class. Take away the mask, and what you're left with is an ignorant bigot.

The only remaining question is whether to turn off Wolff as well. Half the time, Blitzer reminds me of a frenzied, masturbating snow monkey. He's a horrible interviewer, never asks the tough questions, and has never met an establishment pol that he doesn't like, admire, and adulate.

I have switched to PBS and MSNBC. I have had it with the Clinton News Network and this John McCain fan club.

the most dangerous type of hate monger: meshing serious legitimate issues and some good journalism with a nice balance of immigrant-fearing, xenophobic and racist shit veiled under the cloak of national security issues.

You become hooked on the story about the Chinese govt. trying to hack our computer systems, a real national security threat, and if you're not paying attention you also got sucked in to the praises of the Minute Men - who by the way, Lou Dobbs will never tell you, stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from people who were so concerned about "broken borders" that they mortgaged they houses and gave the money to the minute men who said they would build a fence and patrol the borders.

Well, i guess you know where this story ends: there's a few feet of broken down cattle fence about 2 ft high (to keep out Mexican midgets i guess) and there's no one patrolling the border of course. But i bet the leader of the minute men has a new pool!

It is quite possible to discuss ILLEGAL immigration without this kind of hate and fear mongering spewed out by CNN and Lou Dobbs. i don't watch the show anymore.

Instead of giving billions of dollars to Middle Eastern countries every year, give it to Mexico; that"ll drastically cut the illegal immigration problem and go a long way to shutting Lou up.