Him saying he's not running for VP seems more political than anything. He's winning in popular vote and delegate count at the moment, so there is no reason for him to talk about being vice pres. If he did it would like he's not confident he's going to win, and he can't do that right now.

But if for some reason clinton pulls this out, it does not seem like he's taken the vp idea completely off the table. To me an Obama Clinton (or vice versa) ticket is inevitable, and mccain wouldnt stand a chance.

I don't understand the logic. Obama won Texas. I thought that was it

In terms of his own political future, I think it would be a mistake for Obama to accept the VP slot on the ticket if it comes to that.

With Bill in the WH with Hillary, any VP's role is likely to be minimized.

In the White House, the Clintons will face 4 or 8 years of constant right-wing radio assault, Congressional gridlock, and perhaps a loss of the Dem Senate and/or House majority. That didn't help Gore and it wouldn't help Obama in a future presidential run.

Obama's current campaign, among other things, is based on change. Not just policy changes but a change in the way politics in general and Democratic Party politics in particular are conducted. That has been his strongest talking point. Being a part of the Clinton Admin will co-opt that position.

Then there is the prospect for a successful Clinton presidency. I don't think it is good even if she handles the job well. The next president probably has the greatest set of problems to deal with going into office since the terrible economic conditions Jimmy Carter inheirited in 1976. A Clinton administration that is judged to be a failure won't add to its VP's fortunes.

That's it Bill, try and brainwash the "Superdelegates"

Even if Obama lose the nomination, he shouldn't accept a VP slot because he will suffer the same fate of Al Gore. Remember Gore didn't win in 2000 because of Billary scandals. The CHimp slogan was " I will bring honor and dignity to the oval office". we know he has been a worse criminal that Clinton.

Someone on another blog outlined this sneaky strategy of the Clintons perfectly. Why are they pushing Obama as VP?

1. To lower the stature of Obama by getting people to picture him as a Vice-President rather than a President.

2. To persuade voters who are unsure of who to vote for. Her campaign hopes that they will vote for HRC because they will be pacified that they are getting both Clinton and Obama.

3. To lay the groundwork for a scenario a few months from now when Clinton has damaged Obama enough to make him less electable than she is, but needs super-delegates to push her over the edge. This scenario is a guilt-reduced way for superdelegates to pick her over him in this case. "At least he'll be V.P. That's something. And if he doesn't want it, at least we offered."

4. To get him to reject the proposition in a way that makes him look bad.

Excellent news. Has anyone informed the Clintons? Why does Bill keep carrying on as if he doesn't know?

Delusional?

Clinton desperately needs Obama on the ticket to keep African Americans, youth, independents, and new voters energized. The only way Clinton can secure the nomination at this point is to use the superdelegates. If she does that, the voters listed above will desert her in droves unless Obama legitimizes her actions by taking the VP slot. He is not going to do that. If she steals the nomination, he will go back to the Senate and prepare for his 2012 campaign, because she will likely lose in November.

Obama, on the other hand, gains nothing by selecting Clinton as VP. All he does is bring on a lot of headaches he doesn't need. Her presence on the ticket will galvanize the Republican base. Most of Clinton's support comes from the traditional Democratic base. They are unlikely to move to McCain.

My theory is that Obama chooses a woman in order to pacify those women who are disappointed over Hillary's loss. The election becomes even more historic with an African American and a female on the ticket (still a "dream" ticket but not a fantasy ticket). He avoids the Clinton baggage and the one figure who could unify the Republicans.

There is an outside chance he could go with Richardson to solidify the Latino vote, but I think he needs a woman more. I say he will look to Kansas or MIssouri.

Here are some facts about the Democratic race for a nominee...

1. When HRC was running for the senate in NY she an Wolfson made Lazio's tax returns a key issue.
2. She knows very well that Obama had not contacted the Canadian goverment but pushed the false report anyway.
. In MI and FL, she signed the agreement that they would honor the DNC rules and she stated publicaly that she agreed that honoring the early state primary calendar was a good thing. She left her name on the ballot anyway where the others horored their pledge.
4. Obama has won twice as many states with over 150 more pledged delegates. The large state small state argument doesn't hold up. Obama actually won Texas in that he got more delegates. along with the fact that he won TX,GA, VA, WI, MN along with other states that will prove pivotal to changing the color of swing states. Hillary won NY by a slimmer margin that Barack won IL.
5. He has won 15 of the past 17 states. In the two states that she won, OH and RI, she netted 4-6 pledged delegates. Than will be wiped out after this Tuesday when Obama wins in a landslide.
6. Obama average margin of victory in the 17 he just won was a staggering 29 percentage points!
7. After Tuesday's win in MS, HRC would have to win every other state by an average of almost 70%. The only reason that this race is bein spun to sound close is because it suits the media to keep it going. If Obama were down by this amount, the drumbeat would be loud to drop out.
8. The Democratic party super delegates are not going to reverse the will of the people, it just won't happen, This possiblity is being conjured up for public consumption by th media.
9. The republicans want to face HRC. She as what we in the biz call a "long tail"
10. If HRC's argument for being president is experience, that will be usurped if she were to run against McCain. He will use her own words against her.
11. If she happens to use Rezco against Obama, there are a thousand Rezco's in her past. In fact others that were indicted with Rezco were Clinton donors. That picture of the Clintons standing with Rezco makes for an embarrassing story to have to tell so they are prodding the press to look in to it but will not be bringing it up themselves. If they push it, Obama's campaign will bring up Mr. Hsu. With Hsu, there is no ambiguity.
12. Hillary already has 48% negatives baked in to the cake and if she is the nominee, you will see massive turn out on the republican side to try to thwart her presidency. That means not only a potential White House loss but many house races for democrates in vulnerable districts could be lost as well.
With Obama, you get all of the people that would vote for for a traditional dem plus first time voters, more independents and disgruntled repubs. Turn out for the dems if Obama is the candidate will set records that may never be broken.
13. Once elected, Obama would attract a larger majority of voters thus a better chance of getting important legislation through congress. Repubs who might allign with a Clinton president would jeapordize their next election. It cannot be overstated as to how much they dispise the Clintons. Don't be fooled by their silence today. If she becomes the nominee, the line "unleash hell" from the movie The Gladiator comes to mind.

My credentials for these conclusions are that I am a marketing consultant with 30 years of figuring out who the winners are going to be. There are some times you have to admit that your competition has a better story to tell. In this case, Obama is Coke and Clinton is Pepsi.

Wishing you the best no matter who you have chosen.
-Mike

Well, I'm glad Obama said it. Why HRC would think the winning candidate would want to be the losing candidate's VP is evidence of a hubristic mind, totally disconnected from reality.

I can only speak for myself - but putting Obama on the ticket as VP won't make me think that voting for Clinton for President is a good idea.

That - and I think that Obama can do more good as a stong advocate for Illinois as Senator than as a VP under anybody.

Same goes for Hillary Clinton - she can do more good as a strong advocate in the Senate than as a VP under anybody.

The dream ticket idea is not a good idea for the country as a whole.

No No , Clinton has too many better qualifide people to choose from than to choose Obama for a running mate.

While I would imagine it makes sense to say you're not in it for second place, I do think Clinton/Obama is an unbeatable ticket. I know quite a few have thrown out HRC leaving a prominent position in the Senate to be BO's VP; if she responded as he has responded I am sure it would be taken as an insult.

http://strictlyanecdotal.com/2008/03/05/between-a-rock-and-a-hil-place.aspx

so what "claws" has Hillary shown as senator, when it really mattered? she goes along with any neocon war plan & funding. she gripes about healthcare once in awhile, whoopee!

compared to all the stuff the Clinton's, not to mention Bush & Cheney, were able to deflect, this Obama "scandals" are hilarious.