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Vatican Lists "New Sins"

Reuters   |  Philip Pullella   |   March 10, 2008 09:50 AM


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Thou shall not pollute the Earth. Thou shall beware genetic manipulation. Modern times bring with them modern sins. So the Vatican has told the faithful that they should be aware of "new" sins such as causing environmental blight.

The guidance came at the weekend when Archbishop Gianfranco Girotti, the Vatican's number two man in the sometimes murky area of sins and penance, spoke of modern evils.


 
 

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- tandrmcdonald See Profile I'm a Fan of tandrmcdonald permalink

What about the new sin of obscene wealth? Maybe the Vatican should clean up its own moral cess pit before it starts sniffing at the neighbors'. Mother Theresa was scrounging for crumbs to feed the starving of Calcutta and the princes of the Catholic church were wearing rubies that could choke a pig. Hypocrisy fits in here nicely.
Gramma Rose

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 03/11/2008
- UncleJimbo See Profile I'm a Fan of UncleJimbo permalink

I was raised as a Catholic and went to Catholic School,I was an altarboy too but by the time I was 12, I had figured out that it was all a load of baloney! It only took a couple of trips to the Public Library and a a few books on the History of the Catholic Church and the Papacy! Oh,Yeah all the other religions are a load of crap as well! All mysticism and sympathetic magic!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 03/10/2008
- amanda85 See Profile I'm a Fan of amanda85 permalink

Molesting children still OK though, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 03/10/2008
- johnqpublik See Profile I'm a Fan of johnqpublik permalink

If you actually read the full list, pedophilia is on there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 03/10/2008
- williamscody See Profile I'm a Fan of williamscody permalink

There is quite a difference between homosexuals and child molesters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 03/10/2008
- azphil See Profile I'm a Fan of azphil permalink

Apparently turning a blind eye to the activities of these molesters is not considered a sin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 03/10/2008
- cdnnewsjunky See Profile I'm a Fan of cdnnewsjunky permalink

Now that sin, is no longer universal, a constant, but is now an arbitrary state that can flit in and out of existence at will, it's quite possible then, that athiests were not and never were born in sin, maybe only Christians are born in sin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 03/10/2008
- helonias See Profile I'm a Fan of helonias permalink

When will they get to the thou shall not worship graven images.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 03/10/2008
- edresearcher See Profile I'm a Fan of edresearcher permalink

After at least 1700 years, the Catholic Church hasn't even honestly dealt with the old sins yet, such as the alcoholism, gluttony, greed and hunger for power by their own priesthood, not to mention their proclivity for little boys, which they like to blame on homosexuals. These old men would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that they have arrogantly manipulated the minds of billions of their followers for centuries now with their twisted tales and mythologies, while taking the last penny from the poorest in the world for their coffers. Come to think of it, the same could be said for much of Protestantism (Luther, for example, was a piece of shit, a stark raving mad alcoholic who abused his wife and children and was probably a mental case on top of it).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 03/10/2008
- desthmoneses See Profile I'm a Fan of desthmoneses permalink

Wonderful a superstitous group of backwards, confused, old men condeming things they have no understanding of and have never tried.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 03/10/2008
- Dogger See Profile I'm a Fan of Dogger permalink

They could have summed all of the new sins into one new Commandment: "Thou shalt not vote Republican".

That would address PrdAmerican's concern about pedophelia, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 03/10/2008
- falco See Profile I'm a Fan of falco permalink

I see the Vatican is on the same page as our government " thou shall not pollute the earth. Problem is, we have no say in what Exxon Mobile does to our environment. Hey, Pope, us little people don"t have anyone to complain to anymore. Our Congressmen and Senators don"t listen to us anymore. Their God is the almighty dollar. Did you tell that to Bush the last time you had a meeting?

While you installing photovoltaics, another branch of your organization is funding LaRasa, you know, the illegal immigration group that is bankrupting our hospitals.

Drug trafficking? Talk to the big boys on that one too. How about you take a look at the Vatican Bank and the dirty dealings behind the scenes in your house?

The hypocrisy is deep. We are aware that the center of finance of the world is the City of London. The center of the military is Washington DC. And the center of religion is Vatican City. What do they all have in common? They are run independent of any county and independent of the same laws that apply to the rest of us. Now that the US has been built the world army, I guess the rest of the plans can fall into place - the plans of the elite behind these cities. The same people who control the bio crap, the same people who control the drug running, and the same people who fund the military. What happened to the trillions missing from the pentagon? How much gold did you steal during the Holocaust? How about the rat line and thousands of Nazi criminals spirited out of Germany and melded into our intelligence agencies, NASA, and universities? Oh, but you have a message to the people, the ones who struggle everyday to keep food on the table. Go tell it to someone else. Sell the Pope"s outfit for a day and feed a country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 03/10/2008
- sqweels See Profile I'm a Fan of sqweels permalink

Why wasn't the sin of pollution in the Bible all along? It's not like God couldn't anticipate threats to the environment posed by people with free will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 03/10/2008
- mrdontplay See Profile I'm a Fan of mrdontplay permalink

War is still ok. war is always ok, especially wars against the islamic countries.

Just buy your drugs from corporations, remember because God doesn't want us cutting out the big Pharma companies, right?

Fools are those who follow this stuff.

open your eyes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 03/10/2008
- AnnArky See Profile I'm a Fan of AnnArky permalink

When I look at the Vatican I see not only a repository of sin but an enclave of mondern day cave men throwing bones and screaming at the moon - grown men who have devoted their lives to superstition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 03/10/2008
- Bart See Profile I'm a Fan of Bart permalink

And when I read posts like this, I'm assured that bigotry is alive and well in the good ol' usa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 03/10/2008
- williamscody See Profile I'm a Fan of williamscody permalink

When I see comments such as this one I see only people who hold nothing but intolerance for anything different.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 03/10/2008
- PrdAmerican See Profile I'm a Fan of PrdAmerican permalink

pedophelia...has anyone talked to the priests about this yet??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 03/10/2008
- bojak See Profile I'm a Fan of bojak permalink

So far the only people talking to the priests about pedophelia are prosecutors, district attorneys, judges, and of course the victims.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 03/10/2008
- Macready See Profile I'm a Fan of Macready permalink

great one PrdAMerican . . . well said . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 03/10/2008
- CARTERJ See Profile I'm a Fan of CARTERJ permalink

Being an ex-Catholic is so much better than being a Catholic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 03/10/2008
- GoLeftGoDeep See Profile I'm a Fan of GoLeftGoDeep permalink

The sin of polluting ... maybe they'll withhold communion from GOP politicians who enable the polluters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 03/10/2008
- Macready See Profile I'm a Fan of Macready permalink

wonder where they stand on war war war . .. .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 03/10/2008
- Rog49Thomas See Profile I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas permalink

on 12 march 2003, the vatican announced opposition to the usa's planned attack on iraq.

they have a theory of the "just war" - which if applied honestly severely limits what is a "just war"

though one would have to give place of pride to the society of friends on the war issue

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 03/11/2008
- Rog49Thomas See Profile I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas permalink

generally agin it

on 12 march 2003 the pope spoke out against a possible war on iraq by the usa
http://www.cjd.org/paper/jp2war.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 03/10/2008
- johnqpublik See Profile I'm a Fan of johnqpublik permalink

John Paul II was opposed to the Iraq invasion.

Here's the Church's stance on war, according to the Catechism:

"The strict conditions for legitimate defense by military force require rigorous consideration. The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy. At one and the same time:

- the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;

- all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;

- there must be serious prospects of success;

- the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modem means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.

These are the traditional elements enumerated in what is called the "just war" doctrine.


The evaluation of these conditions for moral legitimacy belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 03/10/2008
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