Mikolai Altenberg, 17, stands in the hallway at his South High School Wednesday Feb. 20, 2008 in Minneapolis. Altenberg, a senior, said fragrances like Axe worn by teenage boys often fill the hallways giving him headaches and often making other students sick. A fragrance free educational campaign is being proposed by state lawmakers for the Minneapolis schools to teach students about the effects that strong odors have on students who have asthma and other health issues. (AP Photo/Dawn Villlella)

Minn. Lawmaker Wants Scent-Free Schools

MARTIGA LOHN | March 10, 2008 03:19 PM EST | AP



ST. PAUL, Minn. — Those all-over body sprays that promise to turn teenage boys into babe magnets? Instead of attracting girls, they could be making them sick.

A Minnesota lawmaker proposed a bill Monday urging a fragrance-free educational campaign to discourage students from dousing themselves in scents that aggravate classmates with asthma and other health problems.

Odors that fill hallways come mostly from boys who douse themselves in body sprays like Axe, said Mikolai Altenberg, a senior at Minneapolis South High School. He said the smell is "indescribable" and unavoidable.

"You can smell it from 10 feet away," Altenberg said. "Mostly it's just guys who just think that putting Axe all over them is a substitute for showering."

Rep. Karen Clark, a Democrat, first proposed banning fragrances in Minneapolis schools, one of the state's largest school districts. The bill she introduced Monday scales that back to an awareness campaign in Minneapolis and in other districts that volunteer. The campaign could include letters to parents, fact sheets, signs in schools, e-mail and Web sites.

One in eight Minneapolis students has asthma, and school nurses have treated students for wheezing and headaches brought on by the fragrances wafting from classmates, said Mary Heiman, a nursing service manager who runs the district's asthma program.

An awareness campaign would mirror the approach of policies at the University of Minnesota's Disability Services office and in a recent version of the Minneapolis teachers contract.

If the awareness campaign works, it could be expanded, Clark said.

A trade group for toiletry makers, the Personal Care Products Council in Washington, said it doesn't oppose fragrance policies as long as they're voluntary.

"We really don't think it's a good idea to legislate personal hygiene," said John Hurson, the group's head of government affairs.

Rhode Island and Massachusetts are the only other states where lawmakers have proposed fragrance-free bills in the past two years, Hurson said.


 

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I'm with him. If you can smell someone's stench (fragrance) from anywhere beyond an intimate distance (say, more than 4 inches away) then they need to be hosed down (bathe).

Some of the most offensive substances are not the cheap "body-washes", but are found in expensive perfumes.

I can be a lot of fun around some scents. May skin turns bright red with white bumps, my eyes swell shut, my breathing becomes labored . . . then I have to be dragged out of the area before I stop breathing. It's called anaphylactic shock.

Scents are repulsive rather than attractive.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 03/12/2008

Phthalates, a standard ingredient in fragrances and cosmetics, are suspected carcinogens and hormone disruptors. You won't find them listed on the labels, however, as they are considered a proprietary secret. The cosmetic industry is virtually unregulated.

For more insight as to what your cosmetics contain, visit The Environmental Working Group. They provide a listing of over 25,000 products, comparing the ingredients of each product to 50 toxicity and regulatory databases.

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 03/12/2008

Yes, there are a few jokes to be had from the topic of teenagers and cologne.

But, as someone who can be debilitated by scents, whether perfume, cigarette smoke, etc., I assure it's no laughing matter. When people make light of my sensitivity (usually from their own awkward embarrassment), I tell them the feeling is like an ice-pick shoved between my eyes. I know lots of other people who have some problem with scents (even "natural" ones - it has more to do with the concentration than the origin), so it's not an "obscure" condition.

A compassionate society tries to reasonably accommodate people who suffer unduly from the unthinking acts of others. I wish a campaign to educate the students would stop the behavior, but my own experience is that most people just are not empathetic enough to change their behaviors on their own. Especially teens, and especially when there is a billion-dollar-budget behind the fragrance industry's "side" of the debate.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 03/12/2008

They're kids for chrissake............we used to bathe in canoe, old spice, brut, and the girls tested the power of estee lauder, tweed etc.
This may not be what you and I would do at this point, but they're learning about life and their sexual persona.
best thing we can do is teach 'em 'just a SMALL spritz, and walk through the fog".
My wife is completely allergic to fragrances, but we're not about to outlaw our 18 year old son's experimenting.............and hillary would ban them and Obama says it's ok....really.

Obama 08

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 03/11/2008

Update: ooops.........I just mentioned this story to my son, and he said I didn't understand how horrible this stuff is..........ALL the dopers use it during their breaks and the halls reek..aggravates his ashma.
i want to change my opinion.
........send me a new ballot.

Obama 08

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 03/11/2008

This is what you get with Democrats. Government and regulation is the answer to everything. Government knows best. The public is too stupid to know what's good or bad for us.

What's next Democrats, telling the kids what kind of toothpaste they must use?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 03/11/2008

Yea, it's those crazy Demos that have caused all the problems for the past eight years.

The cosmetics industry is not regulated well.

We have seen and heard and experienced(in many circumstances)the food supply more deregulated(China specials, lettuce and spinach crops, meats)the water supply(take a sip of drugs), air quality, the relaxation of land and animal safeguards and protection.

What the Bush/Republican administration have given us is, Relaxing state park protections, food processing consumer protection, water and land protection for citizens and animals and land.

Deregulation (a Republican by-product) has given everything to insurance companies robbed us of health care and made it unaffordable for fifty million people.

The Bush administration has been running the country on Empty for a long time while Republican-cronies(Business and Industry-exectutive branch) have been syphoning out all the money and giving us butkus...

God bless the animals and God bless the people but let's get real-People Protection over Profiteers who assult the environment and make it more dangerous for people/plants/animals every day.

Deregulation is a dirty word when left in the hands of the Republican Party.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 03/13/2008

I realize you Libs are not fans of capitalism and the free market, but that's what our economy is based on.

Why don't you try Cuba or Venezuela, I hear Raul and Hugo are looking for some more people to exploit....eeeeeerrrrrr, I mean help!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 AM on 03/13/2008

That's because the Republicans are too busy trying shut down all the strip clubs and adult book stores to have time for this sort of thing.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 03/12/2008

What you get with Repubs is nothing that ever works...ever.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 03/11/2008

I suspect that these "body sprays" are just a way for the cosmetics companies to sell perfume to men.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 03/11/2008

Ha! They're not trying to cover up the scent of not bathing, they're covering up the scent of smoking a joint behind the lunch room or in their car.! You all should know this by now.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 03/11/2008

Soooo true!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 03/11/2008

If you teach your kid good personal hygeine there will be no reason for them to be dousing on the colongne.

"We really don't think it's a good idea to legislate personal hygiene," said John Hurson, the group's head of government affairs."

Hear, hear!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 03/11/2008

What about the liquid soaps they make with the same scents?

If Axe Vice is outlawed, only outlaws will have Axe Vice! You'll get my Old Spice After Hours when you pry it from my cold dead hand!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 03/11/2008

Hear Hear!!!
I agree.
Why do kids in school need to be wearing perfume?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 03/11/2008

Why, to cover up the cigarette smoke wafting from their clothes, silly!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 03/13/2008

roflmao...when it became vogue to first criticize and then outlaw people who smoked in public, I said (and was scoffed at for it):

"You just wait - someday they'll start telling you what perfumes and colognes you can and cannot wear."

(Although I projected a movement to outlaw obesity first, to be honest.)

Now all that legislator has to do is convince the insurance companies that said colognes and perfumes are negatively impacting their earnings and the lobbyist money will begin to flow...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 03/11/2008

Olfactory pollution is a pet peeve of mine.

I think if we could communicate to pubescent boys that smelling strongly of cologne is a TURN OFF to females, we wouldn't have to legislate anything.

Science has proved that a light sweat after showering is the best smell for attracting a mate.

I may be more sensitive than others, I've been a pro wine judge for 12 years, and when I have to be in a car or an elevator with some schmaltzy cologne sponge I want to hose their ass down for being so damn egotistic that they think we want to smell them.

The correct amount of scent if you HAVE to wear it is just enough that you would get a light whiff if you hug someone or kiss their cheek. If you pull back from a hug smelling of their scent, that's a serious faux pas.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 03/11/2008

I would think that the public schools have bigger problems to deal with but I am sympathetic to the problem. I was on a flight from Chicago to LA once and some woman had on the most pungent overpowering musk I ever experienced. It was terrible. What in the world causes people to douse themselves in this junk?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 03/11/2008

I wish people knew how much their perfumes and colognes affect people with allergies. During allergy season, I dread riding the subway. After about 10 minutes, I'm experiencing symptoms as if I was lying face down in a flower bed!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 03/11/2008

Sympathy to you...

I'm not allergic to anything, but people's scenting up hits me too. There is someone in my vicinity at the ballet who always makes my eyes itch.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 03/11/2008

I remember when I was in high school; the scent at that time was English Leather... everyone I knew used to slosh it pretty heavy on in the hope of attracting girls, but all it did was make me sick. I didn't realize I had ashma at the time - I probably wouldn't have quit using it anyway if I did know.
I hate all that crap... I avoid going to movies and restaurants because of the perfume that is everywhere nowadays... For all I know it's what is causing the ice caps to melt.
srsMN

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 03/11/2008

A friend of mine had a bottle of English Leather in his pocket and it broke.
That class room smelled all year long, and I cant stand that smell to this day.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 03/11/2008

EW! English Leather! My boyfriend in 1980 wore that and I feel the same. Cannot stand the smell of that stuff!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 03/11/2008
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