Obama Backer: "Clinton Lies And Stolen Election"

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First Posted: 03-11-08 11:25 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:46 AM

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Politico:

Another sign of the anger in Obamaland at the Clinton campaign: an email from a member of Obama's LGBT leadership council, Maxim Thorne, to a couple of listservs:

"We cannot tolerate her lies and stolen election," Thorne wrote of Clinton, revisiting familiar themes:

At 3am, Hillary said she and Bill were in bed and she knows of all the calls a President gets at different times of the day and night. Really? So much involvement - so much togetherness. Where was she when Monica was having sex with Bill? 35 years of experience? When he was intimidating Katherine Wiley and Paula Jones? Where was the judgment on the cattle futures and white water. Do we forget Mark and Denise Rich? This was an impeached President who lost his license to practice law. He committed perjury. They settled with Paula Jones for the full amount of her lawsuit. I haven't forgotten and none of us should.

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Another sign of the anger in Obamaland at the Clinton campaign: an email from a member of Obama's LGBT leadership council, Maxim Thorne, to a couple of listservs: "We cannot tolerate her lies and sto...
Another sign of the anger in Obamaland at the Clinton campaign: an email from a member of Obama's LGBT leadership council, Maxim Thorne, to a couple of listservs: "We cannot tolerate her lies and sto...
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The truth hurts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 03/12/2008
- Tankan I'm a Fan of Tankan 3 fans permalink

Totally unacceptable cruel remarks!

The red phone could ring at anytime, not only three a.m.!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 03/12/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

HERE IT COMES HILLARY!!! THROWING STONE IN A GLASS HOUSE!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 AM on 03/12/2008
- TishiJo I'm a Fan of TishiJo 20 fans permalink

Clinton is losing because of her horrific lying attacks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 03/12/2008
- Swift2 I'm a Fan of Swift2 11 fans permalink

Why am I troubled that this freakish person goes on a diatribe without factual merit, and sounding very much like a Republican cultist holed up in a cabin in 1997 talking about the Clintoon Murders or other follishness? Oh, but I guess it doesn't trouble HuffPo readers, because so many of them have the same consciousness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 03/12/2008
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 50 fans permalink

it's more of the politics of hope and change, that all Obama supporters seem to embrace. Normal people call it trash and burn, but hey whatever works to get him the nomination. To bad by the time he gets it, most normal dems won't be voting for him in the general. Who wants to be associated with the most hate filled campaign out there. Hope and change LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 03/12/2008

I think this little tidbit is going to illicit sympathy from women. Many women have been on the receiving end of infidelity, many decided to stay, and many have carried on forgiving but not forgetting. If anything this hurt the Obama camp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 03/12/2008
- JerryJef I'm a Fan of JerryJef 8 fans permalink

From what I heard today on MSNBC Clinton refused to sever ties with Ferraro because Ferraro is not part of the campaign. She is only a member of the Finance Committee.

Here we learn Obama severs ties with a person who is on a LGBT Leadership Council. Truly, I have no idea what this is or how it fits into the campaign, but it sounds as if it is less connected to a campaign than a Finance Committee is. I mean a campaign can be run without a Leadership Council, but try running one without a Finance Committee.

I'd say Obama, at least in this instance, practices what he preaches. He doesn't permit divisive, personal attacks upon his opponent.

Unfortunately, I heard nothing about this in media today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 03/12/2008
- Didi47 I'm a Fan of Didi47 15 fans permalink

JerryJef:

It's not really YOU who says that ....... it's yesterday's CNN MSNBC .. media pundits repeating it every ten minutes - chanting it until you probably thought it was your original thought when you woke up this morning. Welcome to the world of media mind control. Did you know the statement was taken out of context... of course... that if you look at Ferraro's history, you'll know she's one of the least racist people you could ever know... as are Bill and Hillary... and I think in your heart you know that too.

Sadly Obama and his partners the media.... need to fan this race card... because if they don't he's going to have to undergo scrutiny..­.. just like Hillary has.

This race baiting has been non stop promoted and from the get go.... against Hillary. That anyone is swallowing this bullshit..­. is beyond reason. Sanity certainly no longer exists in MSM.... The nut case... politicians and pundits pretending political expertise on MSNBS & CNN.... I really hope and pray... have little or no decision making ability... because if they do... God help us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 03/12/2008

Wow! That's two people Obama has cut ties with. Now, if only Hillary could show the same type of ethical actions. But...she keeps her hatchet persons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 03/11/2008
- junglejane I'm a Fan of junglejane 2 fans permalink

Wow. This "new politics" of Mr. Obama's sure sounds a lot like the old politics! Actually, they're getting into right-wing territory when they're crawling into people's beds at night to see what's going on there. If people are voting for Obama because they think he's not like the Clintons, they are sorely mistaken. This guy is Bill Clinton - lite. And by lite, I mean a less-accomplished, less-capable version of Bill Clinton, circa 1992. If you really want to "change the politics in Washington" and all that jazz, you ought to be voting for Nader, not Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 03/11/2008
- Jain I'm a Fan of Jain permalink

Really? I'm old enough to remember that Bill was a "ho" for years - crawling into bed would work if the guy wasn't a sex addict and she didn't sacrifice her integrity for ambition by standing by him like the current Spitzer :door mat/ potted plant photo op reminds us.

I'm the 60+ who "someone" decided were for Hillbilly. NOT! It's why Obama's winning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 03/11/2008
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Yes...how delusional let's vote for Nader to change politics in Washington­....what a joke.


How about endorsing Kucinich? he is actually trying to effect change...o­h right he is no longer in hte race so it's Hillary with her corporatist agenda or Obama...a person of character who was backed by Kucinich.

How hard is that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 03/12/2008
- TishiJo I'm a Fan of TishiJo 20 fans permalink

On Fox News, Limbaugh listed "another reason why we need Hillary to stay in:" the Clinton campaign can attack Obama in ways the Republicans cannot. "Who was it that first used Obama's middle name of Hussein? It was not us. It was [Clinton supporter] Bob Kerrey, over and over again, former Democrat Senator of Nebraska."
"Who was it that talked about Obama not just using drugs, as he admitted in his book, but maybe even selling them and dealing them? It was [Bill] Shaheen, Clinton's co-chair in New Hampshire.­"
Limbaugh's assumption here is that Obama will be the Democratic nominee.
"We want the Clinton campaign to keep pumping out these pictures of Obama dressed up as Bin Laden," he said on Feb. 26. "If Hillary loses this thing, all of that's going to come to a screeching halt. We want all the disruption in that party as possible. . . . We need to keep chaos alive."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 AM on 03/12/2008

He raised some valid points and resigns compared to Ferraro's & Wolfson statements over the last week and they are still involved with the Clinton campaign.

I applaud Obama's efforts to stay above the fray and, rightly, Mr Thorne should resign.

Once again the Obama campaign has shown a level of class unheard of in modern day United States politics.

There aren't any doubts that he can unite the nation, in my opinion - he has with stood the kitchen sink; time for Hillary to step into history before she really becomes an embarrassment beyond where she is currently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 03/11/2008
- presto I'm a Fan of presto 18 fans permalink

Maxim Thorne did not feel quite so revolted by Bill Clinton in 2004 when he addressed the African-American Research Center at Yale University.

In a speech entitled "New Political and Legal Strategies for African-Americans: Dreaming Big Dreaming Creatively" Thorne said:

" ...that night, I saw America's first black President. And while I love Bill Clinton, I'm not talking about him."

He was, of course, talking about Barack Obama. But Clinton? Well, he loves Bill Clinton. He was not bothered by all the sexual escapades then that he seems so repulsed by today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 03/11/2008
- anghiari I'm a Fan of anghiari 22 fans permalink

That could be said about Hillary too. She loves Bill Clinton, but according to her comments on the Tyra Banks Show...She was so busy praying that she really didn't hear all the white noise around Bill's risky business, besides, she says, she knew that Bill had always loved her" I guess if you know it, it really doesn't have to show it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 03/11/2008

And where was all of this so called outrage from Maxim Thorne the "LGBT Leadership Member" when Obama was touring with the anti-gay bigots Donnie McClurkin and Kirbyjon Caldwell? Donnie McClurkin preaches that all gay people are cursed by god, and that gays are all child molesters. Caldwell runs an "Ex-Gay" torture ministry. Where was Thorne's LGBT leadership on those issues? Where was his outrage? He is a disgrace to gay people everywhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 03/11/2008

Nobody I know was repulsed by sexual escapes, we were repulsed by lying directly the American people and under oath. You may want to back to defending the Clintons, I don't see the point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 03/11/2008
- presto I'm a Fan of presto 18 fans permalink

I think you missed my point. I was talking about Maxim Thorne. What he said about Bill Clinton in 2004 when he made that speech was not consistent with what he said today. I was not referring to you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 03/11/2008
- Didi47 I'm a Fan of Didi47 15 fans permalink

DoninJoisey:

Rest assured even more people are repulsed by Obama, his supporters and the disgusting media that promote these defamatory lies against Hillary and her supporters.

This election and the sick joke calling itself News networks..­. have proven America is no longer the place to find the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 03/12/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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Rise Above it, Obama!

WE are counting on you to stay on the High Road and maintain Integrity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 03/11/2008
- Mattie I'm a Fan of Mattie 50 fans permalink

rise above it, it's his backers putting out the slime. We used to make fun of the right wing loons on this site who constantly brought up the 90's and the sex life of Bill Clinton. How it's Obama supporters panting over the past. You guys are going to lose the general because you have turned off so many democrats who don't think it's right to spread all the hate that we read here on Huffpo and on other sites. Politics of hope and change, are you kidding!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 03/11/2008

Cliinton's participation in the trashing of women who were involved with Bill is a completely legitimate issue of character and "experience" for this election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 03/11/2008

I think he simply stated what those who have researched the Clintons already felt. But, he should not have done it in a campaign. We have enough of that coming from the other side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 03/11/2008
- GLaB I'm a Fan of GLaB 3 fans permalink

This Maxim Thorne was "dismissed" after doing exactly what he was intended to do.. get these Talking Points out on lstservs so they'll be repeated on blogs, talk-radio, etc.

...And Saint Barack can claim to be above it all.


"The bottom line is this, when you wink and nod at offensive statements, you're really sending a signal to your supporters that anything goes," AXELROD said in a conference call with reporters on Tuesday. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/11/ferraros-remarks-about-o_n_91008.html

So when is Obama going to denounce these statements as untrue? Or is he going to give them a "wink and nod?"

He still hasn't denounced Power's statement, so I guess I know the answers to my own questions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 03/11/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 496 fans permalink
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These temper tantrums are not helping. If Obama wants to keep his campaign looking like the lean mean machine it has been over the past three months, he needs to rein in these crybabies and fast.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 03/11/2008
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