Obama Camp: Clinton Foreign Policy A Dramatized Assertion, Clinton Calls His Iraq Plan

Obama Camp: Clinton Foreign Policy A Dramatized Assertion, Clinton Calls His Iraq Plan "Just Words"

Huffington Post   |   March 11, 2008 09:26 AM


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The Obama campaign has released an exhaustive memo on Hillary Clinton's foreign policy experience. They argue that Sen. Clinton's claim that she has passed a Commander-in-Chief threshold is "mere assertion, dramatized in a scary television commercial." They also detail each of the foreign policy situations -- Northern Ireland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Rwanda and China -- that Sen. Clinton has mentioned during the campaign.

Meanwhile, Sen. Clinton has sought to preempt a scheduled environment speech for Obama today. Co-opting his phrase, she calls both his environmental policy and his promise to withdraw from Iraq "just words."

Read Obama's memo (Clinton statement below):

To: Interested Parties From: Greg Craig, former director, Policy Planning Office, U.S. State Department RE: Senator Clinton's claim to be experienced in foreign policy: Just words? DA: March 11, 2008

When your entire campaign is based upon a claim of experience, it is important that you have evidence to support that claim. Hillary Clinton's argument that she has passed "the Commander- in-Chief test" is simply not supported by her record.

There is no doubt that Hillary Clinton played an important domestic policy role when she was First Lady. It is well known, for example, that she led the failed effort to pass universal health insurance. There is no reason to believe, however, that she was a key player in foreign policy at any time during the Clinton Administration. She did not sit in on National Security Council meetings. She did not have a security clearance. She did not attend meetings in the Situation Room. She did not manage any part of the national security bureaucracy, nor did she have her own national security staff. She did not do any heavy-lifting with foreign governments, whether they were friendly or not. She never managed a foreign policy crisis, and there is no evidence to suggest that she participated in the decision-making that occurred in connection with any such crisis. As far as the record shows, Senator Clinton never answered the phone either to make a decision on any pressing national security issue - not at 3 AM or at any other time of day.

When asked to describe her experience, Senator Clinton has cited a handful of international incidents where she says she played a central role. But any fair-minded and objective judge of these claims - i.e., by someone not affiliated with the Clinton campaign - would conclude that Senator Clinton's claims of foreign policy experience are exaggerated.

Northern Ireland:

Senator Clinton has said, "I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland." It is a gross overstatement of the facts for her to claim even partial credit for bringing peace to Northern Ireland. She did travel to Northern Ireland, it is true. First Ladies often travel to places that are a focus of U.S. foreign policy. But at no time did she play any role in the critical negotiations that ultimately produced the peace. As the Associated Press recently reported, "[S]he was not directly involved in negotiating the Good Friday peace accord." With regard to her main claim that she helped bring women together, she did participate in a meeting with women, but, according to those who know best, she did not play a pivotal role. The person in charge of the negotiations, former Senator George Mitchell, said that "[The First Lady] was one of many people who participated in encouraging women to get involved, not the only one."

News of Senator Clinton's claims has raised eyebrows across the ocean. Her reference to an important meeting at the Belfast town hall was debunked. Her only appearance at the Belfast City Hall was to see Christmas lights turned on. She also attended a 50-minute meeting which, according to the Belfast Daily Telegraph's report at the time, "[was] a little bit stilted, a little prepared at times." Brian Feeney, an Irish author and former politician, sums it up: "The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn't on it."

Bosnia:

Senator Clinton has pointed to a March 1996 trip to Bosnia as proof that her foreign travel involved a life-risking mission into a war zone. She has described dodging sniper fire. While she did travel to Bosnia in March 1996, the visit was not a high-stakes mission to a war zone. On March 26, 1996, the New York Times reported that "Hillary Rodham Clinton charmed American troops at a U.S.O. show here, but it didn't hurt that the singer Sheryl Crow and the comedian Sinbad were also on the stage."

Kosovo:

Senator Clinton has said, "I negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo." It is true that, as First Lady, she traveled to Macedonia and visited a Kosovar refugee camp. It is also true that she met with government officials while she was there. First Ladies frequently meet with government officials. Her claim to have "negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo," however, is not true. Her trip to Macedonia took place on May 14, 1999. The borders were opened the day before, on May 13, 1999.

The negotiations that led to the opening of the borders were accomplished by the people who ordinarily conduct negotiations with foreign governments - U.S. diplomats. President Clinton's top envoy to the Balkans, former Ambassador Robert Gelbard, said, "I cannot recall any involvement by Senator Clinton in this issue." Ivo Daalder worked on the Clinton Administration's National Security Council and wrote a definitive history of the Kosovo conflict. He recalls that "she had absolutely no role in the dirty work of negotiations."

Rwanda:

Last year, former President Clinton asserted that his wife pressed him to intervene with U.S. troops to stop the Rwandan genocide. When asked about this assertion, Hillary Clinton said it was true. There is no evidence, however, to suggest that this ever happened. Even those individuals who were advocating a much more robust U.S. effort to stop the genocide did not argue for the use of U.S. troops. No one recalls hearing that Hillary Clinton had any interest in this course of action. Based on a fair and thorough review of National Security Council deliberations during those tragic months, there is no evidence to suggest that U.S. military intervention was ever discussed. Prudence Bushnell, the Assistant Secretary of State with responsibility for Africa, has recalled that there was no consideration of U.S. military intervention.

At no time prior to her campaign for the presidency did Senator Clinton ever make the claim that she supported intervening militarily to stop the Rwandan genocide. It is noteworthy that she failed to mention this anecdote - urging President Clinton to intervene militarily in Rwanda - in her memoirs. President Clinton makes no mention of such a conversation with his wife in his memoirs. And Madeline Albright, who was Ambassador to the United Nations at the time, makes no mention of any such event in her memoirs.

Hillary Clinton did visit Rwanda in March 1998 and, during that visit, her husband apologized for America's failure to do more to prevent the genocide.

China

Senator Clinton also points to a speech that she delivered in Beijing in 1995 as proof of her ability to answer a 3 AM crisis phone call. It is strange that Senator Clinton would base her own foreign policy experience on a speech that she gave over a decade ago, since she so frequently belittles Barack Obama's speeches opposing the Iraq War six years ago. Let there be no doubt: she gave a good speech in Beijing, and she stood up for women's rights. But Senator Obama's opposition to the War in Iraq in 2002 is relevant to the question of whether he, as Commander-in-Chief, will make wise judgments about the use of military force. Senator Clinton's speech in Beijing is not.

Senator Obama's speech opposing the war in Iraq shows independence and courage as well as good judgment. In the speech that Senator Clinton says does not qualify him to be Commander in Chief, Obama criticized what he called "a rash war . . . a war based not on reason, but on passion, not on principle, but on politics." In that speech, he said prophetically: "[E]ven a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences." He predicted that a U.S. invasion of Iraq would "fan the flames of the Middle East," and "strengthen the recruitment arm of al Qaeda." He urged the United States first to "finish the fight with Bin Laden and al Qaeda."

If the U.S. government had followed Barack Obama's advice in 2002, we would have avoided one of the greatest foreign policy catastrophes in our nation's history. Some of the most "experienced" men in national security affairs - Vice President Cheney and Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and others - led this nation into that catastrophe. That lesson should teach us something about the value of judgment over experience. Longevity in Washington, D.C. does not guarantee either wisdom of judgment.

Conclusion:

The Clinton campaign's argument is nothing more than mere assertion, dramatized in a scary television commercial with a telephone ringing in the middle of the night. There is no support for or substance in the claim that Senator Clinton has passed "the Commander-in-Chief test." That claim - as the TV ad - consists of nothing more than making the assertion, repeating it frequently to the voters and hoping that they will believe it.

On the most critical foreign policy judgment of our generation - the War in Iraq - Senator Clinton voted in support of a resolution entitled "The Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of U.S. Military Force Against Iraq." As she cast that vote, she said: "This is probably the hardest decision I have ever had to make -- any vote that may lead to war should be hard -- but I cast it with conviction." In this campaign, Senator Clinton has argued - remarkably - that she wasn't actually voting for war, she was voting for diplomacy. That claim is no more credible than her other claims of foreign policy experience. The real tragedy is that we are still living with the terrible consequences of her misjudgment. The Bush Administration continues to cite that resolution as its authorization - like a blank check - to fight on with no end in sight.

Barack Obama has a very simple case. On the most important commander in chief test of our generation, he got it right, and Senator Clinton got it wrong. In truth, Senator Obama has much more foreign policy experience than either Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan had when they were elected. Senator Obama has worked to confront 21st century challenges like proliferation and genocide on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He possesses the personal attributes of a great leader - an even temperament, an open-minded approach to even the most challenging problems, a willingness to listen to all views, clarity of vision, the ability to inspire, conviction and courage.

And Barack Obama does not use false charges and exaggerated claims to play politics with national security.


After seven years of an energy policy written by and for the oil companies - with help from Dick Cheney - oil has now reached $107 a barrel - and gas prices in some areas are approaching $4 a gallon.

I understand Senator Obama is talking about energy today, right here in Pennsylvania. And that's great. But talking about problems is easy. Solving problems is hard. And speeches are no substitute for solutions. Speeches won't lower gas prices, stop climate change, or lessen our dependence on oil from Saudi Arabia.

The true test comes when it's time to match rhetoric with results. And unfortunately, we've seen that Senator Obama's promises and speeches are often just words.

On the campaign trail, Senator Obama talks about clean energy. But in the Senate, he voted for Dick Cheney's energy bill loaded with new tax breaks for oil companies. When he faced a tough choice, his support for a clean energy future turned out to be just words.

It's like how he talks about fixing NAFTA. But his top economic adviser assured the Canadian government that he wouldn't really follow through. His position? Just words.

Senator Obama promises to withdraw from Iraq within 16 months. But his top foreign policy adviser said he's not really going to rely on that plan. I guess that plan is just words, too.

We need a president who will solve problems. Who will fight for our families long after the speeches are over and the cameras are gone. That's the choice in this campaign: Solutions you can rely on - versus words you can't.



 
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I was reading the Clinton camp's response and I can't understand why they can't think of anything other than "but...but­...but he is a poo head"

Just goes to show you that Obama really has a point. Hopefully the MSM will actually starting taking a hard look at this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 03/11/2008
- joehigashi I'm a Fan of joehigashi 2 fans permalink

"but...but­...but...i­t's because he's black!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 03/11/2008

Yep, The Clintons didn't say anything to counter all his evidence about her lack of experience. They just slinged mud about Obama. They can't argue with the facts. I'm sure Bill is calling Albright, Mitchell, and every other appointment of his who is currently supporting Hillary and trying to coax them into lying on behalf of his wife.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 03/11/2008
- DennyCrane I'm a Fan of DennyCrane 24 fans permalink

This memo makes me hate the press even more. Where was the media all this time. They let Hilary Clinton claim she had 35 years of experience but not once did they question that claim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 03/11/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

If you need the press to tell you what is and has been in front of your own face for decades now...geez you got issues.

Hillary and the Clintons 'experience' destroyed the party in the 90s, ensure 8 years of Bush and they are at it again.

You need some media hack to tell you that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 03/11/2008
- Ashall I'm a Fan of Ashall 5 fans permalink

Now this is where the dirty part of the campaign kicked in...when the Clinton machine and even Hillary herself contacted the network executives with threats of lawsuits and demands for people who had "dissed" them to be fired. Only when Joe Scarborough let it slip that the pressure was on by the Clintons to make Obama look bad did MSNBC, for one, make an abrupt turnaround.

I remember a few years back when Kitty Kelley had a "tell-all" book about the Bush family and the Bush machine put pressure on all the networks NOT to give her publicity. She did appear with Matt Lauer on the Today show - and he was so rude to her it angered me to the point that I immediately went out and bought the book, and READ it. I have not tuned in to that show since.

When people feel they can dictate what is said on news programs and who can come on and who are allowed to speak, then it becomes too censored and our freedom of speech is denied. I never tuned in to Don Imus because I thought he was rude and offensive, but I didn't think he should have been fired over something he'd been doing for years - most of us just didn't pay any attention. This is what happens when people make snap judgment calls on things they need to sit back and THINK about for awhile.

One great thing about Barack is that he's not rich or powerful - he's let the chips fall where they may. He responds to criticism, as in the above memo, but he keeps on message.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 03/11/2008
- abot I'm a Fan of abot 4 fans permalink

The MSM better start discussing this memo in their news cycles. This better get heavy rotation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 03/11/2008

Denny, we largely have (believe it or not) Saturday Night Live to thank for the media's recent fear of hitting HIllary with hard questions. I believe it was a brilliant scheme on her campaign's part. SNL saw there was some Obama bias in the media (and there was) so they made a sketch over-exaggerating the observation. Hillary took that over-exaggeration and presented it as literal. After her campaign seized on that sketch, something strange happened. I've actually never seen it happen before but the media became suddenly afraid of appearing to be against Hillary. They started frantically digging, trying to find SOMETHING negative to discuss about Obama as if to prove themselves to the people who watch SNL. In the meantime they let Hillary slide on a number of issues including claiming the "wink wink" to Canada came from Obama. When it came out that it wasn't true it barely made the news, taking up an hour or so the day of and then... Nothing.

But, have faith. I've noticed they're finally coming back around and their fear is fading. I truly believe Hillary thought she'd get away with telling the American people that a vote for her is quite possibly a vote for Obama. I don't think she expected the media to finally find their backbones again. But they did. Now that she knows they're looking at her again, it'll be interesting to see how she and her campaign proceed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 03/11/2008
- TomSutpen I'm a Fan of TomSutpen 3 fans permalink

Let's see how much traction it gets in the mainstream media. I suspect it will get non, as Sen. Clinton's 'bona fides', those parts of her resume that make her so attractive to the Democratic Party establishment (which is only a wing of the same corpus that owns the organs of mass media in this country), have little to do with actual experience, and more to do with her determination to win at any cost.

She is seen by the Party as the most 'responsible', 'adult' candidate of the two; which is another way of saying that she will do what it takes to maintain the status quo in our system of robbery, global terror and exploitation. She has the 'strength' to carry out the will of those who own this country; seeing to their interests instinctively, without their having to ask. It's what she and her husband have devoted their lives to, and should she become President, she may fulfill the DLC mandate and truly turn the Democratic party into a 'responsible', 'strong', 'adult' replica of the Republican Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 03/11/2008
- Ariadne I'm a Fan of Ariadne 19 fans permalink
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A very even-handed debunking of her foreign policy claims. At least he didn't accuse her of having teas and baking cookies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 03/11/2008
- ornery I'm a Fan of ornery 7 fans permalink

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 03/11/2008

OBAMA's foreign policy experience : PASSING LEGISLATION CALLED "AID TO THE REPUBLIC OF CONGO"....­.Afro-Cent­ric mission in his church, and in his job... too narrow for AMERICA!! Americans will never vote for such niche-politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 03/11/2008

Now, if you are going to try to make a real case here. Why not cite any legislation that Clinton has passed with respect to that. Guess what, there is none.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 03/11/2008
- Ariadne I'm a Fan of Ariadne 19 fans permalink
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You mean that trying to help African causes in recognition of his roots is niche politics? Does this mean that Hillary had better avoid women's issues? I hope not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 03/11/2008
- nick1936 I'm a Fan of nick1936 17 fans permalink

Yes lets elect this clown so that i can watch Al Sharpton and Jessy Jackson on TV every night they are so entertaining

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 03/11/2008
- kempis I'm a Fan of kempis 8 fans permalink

Me, too. But sadly this is the kind of crap we're going to hear from the GOP, so we'd better get ready to respond to it. Much will be made of Obama's church's "black liberation theology," something which makes sense to a lot of liberals and well-educated people of all races, but scares the bejesus out of most people.

I'm already running into nutty "Obama is a Malcolm X in sheep's clothing" posts on other sites.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 03/11/2008

the interesting thing about this is that it is one of only two bills he has authored in the senate and successfully gotten passed into law. While Hillary has authored and successfully passed 22 pieces of legislation

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 03/11/2008
- DRHoen I'm a Fan of DRHoen 3 fans permalink

Another one exposed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 03/11/2008
- Ashall I'm a Fan of Ashall 5 fans permalink

ivana -
How dare you diss over 50% of the established churches in this country that regulary send care packages and money to aid those in need in Africa! Not only black churches but totally white churches feel this is the right thing to do. Shows me you don't belong to any church - and are just ASSUMING you'll get by with this wise-crack. You're nasty....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 03/11/2008
- abot I'm a Fan of abot 4 fans permalink

ivana

Here is BO's foreign experience at least what I have been able to find out:

Senate Foreign Relations work:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hF21X4euXTnoLZk5sNoBd9NVtcRQD8V1SV980

Some of the work done by Sen. Barack Obama since joining the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 2005:

MAJOR TRIPS:

In 2005, Obama traveled with Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., to former Soviet states and visited sites where nuclear weapons were being dismantled.

In 2006, Obama visited Africa, where he and his wife publicly took HIV tests in Kenya to encourage citizens there to do the same. He also met AIDS researchers and activists and caused a stir by speaking out against corruption and the corrosive role of tribal loyalties in the Kenyan government.

Also in 2006, Obama traveled to the Middle East, where he met Israel's foreign minister, spent two days in Iraq talking to officials and military commanders, and stopped in the Palestinian territory, Jordan and Kuwait.

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LEGISLATION:

In February 2008, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved Obama's proposal to require a new strategy to reduce global poverty.

In January 2007, the president signed Obama and Lugar's legislation aimed at improving nonproliferation efforts, including eliminating stockpiles of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles. Later that year, Obama proposed creating an internationally monitored uranium reserve that would guarantee fuel would be available for commercial nuclear reactors and dissuade countries from building their own uranium enrichment capability.

In June 2007, the Senate passed Obama's resolution condemning violence by the Zimbabwe government.

In January 2007, he proposed legislation that would have prevented President Bush from sending more troops to Iraq and required troop withdrawals to begin that spring. Last November, he introduced legislation that would make clear Congress had not authorized military force against Iran. Neither measure received a vote.

In July 2005, the Senate passed legislation co-sponsored by Obama to provide $13 million for the Special Court for Sierra Leone to use in the prosecution of former Liberian President Charles Taylor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 03/11/2008
- WHATISTHIS I'm a Fan of WHATISTHIS 5 fans permalink
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I WILL SAY ANYTHING TO WIN YES I'M HILLARY

I WILL DO ANYTHING TO WIN YES I'M HILLARY

I WILL DO THE RIGHT THING TO WIN YES I'M BARACK

I WONT DO ANY AND ANY THING JUST TO WIN YES I'M BARACK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 03/11/2008
- MrKnuckles I'm a Fan of MrKnuckles 11 fans permalink
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This evenhanded assessment of Hillary's B.S. claims about her "Commander In Chief" qualities is bound to be viewed by many in the media as being a wimpy response because it doesn't stray away from recounting the facts into a wild spraying fit of muckraking hyperbole. I figure if Obama's camp can carefully collate these timelines so could the press, if they weren't so intent upon waiting around the fringes hoping for a punch up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 03/11/2008

Funny! Because it's true

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 03/11/2008

hillary clinton promised upstate NY hundreds of thousands of jobs if only they would elect her as the NY Senator.

hillary was elected and since then upstate NY lost 30,000 jobs.

I see a stunning failure to deliver on YOUR WORDS hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 03/11/2008
- abot I'm a Fan of abot 4 fans permalink

In the debates she stated that she did not deliver on her promise cause she thought Al Gore would be in office. I thought that she has the ability to reach across the aisle. It shouldn't matter who is POTUS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 03/11/2008
- karenann I'm a Fan of karenann 5 fans permalink

But wait -- don't you remember? Hillary stated it was Al Gore's failure to be elected president in 2000 as the reason she was unable to deliver on that promise.

That's the beauty of this broad: No matter what her failings, it's always someone else's fault. But don't worry -- she has the solutions!

No one plays the victim card with tears and flailing better than Hillary Clinton, and as a woman (and feminist), I am appalled by her words AND her actions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 03/11/2008
- clbrune I'm a Fan of clbrune 2 fans permalink

George W Bush is President. Why don't you bring the economy up with him, hm?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 03/11/2008
- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

NY State's Jr. Sen Clinton recieved a 3am emergecy phone call concerning Gov of HER State....

What was her response..­.. How many minutes, hours or days will it take her to call for his resignation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 03/11/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

Another Clinton Super Delegate bites the dust ;0).

Sybil McClinton is lucky she isn't running against herself...­if she was Wolfson or Penn or Bill of some other slimy hack would be out today screaming that Cllnton was now assocciated with a prostitution ring and federal crimes! Whew-she lucked out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 03/11/2008
- naturesway I'm a Fan of naturesway 12 fans permalink

No one, not one person on this post. NOt one person who did the research for Obama and not even any person running for President has had more face to face meetings with world leaders. No one has done more to bring together peoples from many nations to talk and to create a better world . No one can match Hillary's experience. Try to refute it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 03/11/2008
- m4rk0 I'm a Fan of m4rk0 3 fans permalink

Where's the proof? Release the White House documents so that we can make that assessment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 03/11/2008
- Ariadne I'm a Fan of Ariadne 19 fans permalink
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I believe it has been refuted. Did you read the article?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 03/11/2008

So your logic is to completely ignore the lying and validate her foreign policy "experience" on face to face meetings and hand shakes?

Hell I've met 2 Presidents, 2 Prime Ministers, and a couple of Congressman so by your assessment I should be ready to be President of the United States in no time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 03/11/2008
- SLone08 I'm a Fan of SLone08 5 fans permalink

examples please

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 03/11/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

They just did. Did you read the article, or any other article written on the subject of Clintons mythical WH experience.

You never seem to respondto what is in front of you. You always rely on shillng for Hillary regradless of her lies, destortion, bizzarre behavior and betrayal of the Dem party. You just keep with the lame shilling.

It isn't working. She is loosing and wiill continue to do so. Her empty lies and dirty tricks only work on folks like you.

Heres some new news for you....she just lost another Super Delegate and outspoken supporter-Eliot Spitzer. Another one bites the bust.

Do you know who will take Eliots place? Look into it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 03/11/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

People....­...it's not an article, it's the Obama talking points for the day. Jeesh*....­.and you guys wonder why you earn "kool-aid" remarks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 03/11/2008
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Have I missed the "solutions" from Clinton ?

I only hear words...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 03/11/2008

I thought go read my web site was the standard answer to this question for any Obama supporter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 03/11/2008
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I'm not interested in "standard" answers.

I'm just curious about the solutions that have been provided from EITHER candidate. I only hear words from both campaigns - that's what campaigns ARE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 03/11/2008
- clbrune I'm a Fan of clbrune 2 fans permalink

hehe, good one.

Apparently the Obama heads can tell you to visit a web site, but can't do so themselves ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 03/11/2008
- unfettered I'm a Fan of unfettered 4 fans permalink

Have I missed the "solutions" from Clinton ?
I only hear words...
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That's Obama you're hearing.
Clinton's are still doing.
O is just preaching to the choir.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 03/11/2008
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 62 fans permalink

I am so happy hillary's so called experience is being exposed . .. the woman is a liar . . .

loved this: "The Clinton campaign's argument is nothing more than mere assertion, dramatized in a scary television commercial with a telephone ringing in the middle of the night. There is no support for or substance in the claim that Senator Clinton has passed "the Commander-in-Chief test." That claim - as the TV ad - consists of nothing more than making the assertion, repeating it frequently to the voters and hoping that they will believe it." yep the clintons are playing by the rovian election manual . .. they are republicans in all but name . .. they are scum

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 03/11/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

Exposed? This is Obama's talking points. *haha This is NOT the truth.

She can easily respond, since he's off-base on this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 03/11/2008
- m4rk0 I'm a Fan of m4rk0 3 fans permalink

How can she respond? By merely saying she has foreign policy experience? Where's the beef?

Why not release her White House documents so we can all judge what's she really did?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 03/11/2008

She did respond, and it was a bad response too. Didn't you read the last bit of the article. She spouted off the same lies that she has been trying to shove down our throats for weeks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 03/11/2008

How are these talking points? She does not have the clearance level to have the discussions. Her 8 years as first lady do not count as experience, and if she did get "experience" it was because Bill Clinton acted illegally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 03/11/2008
- Shelly1970 I'm a Fan of Shelly1970 10 fans permalink

Oh, Annie.

Nothing to say other than "not true"?

Compelling. :-)

Guess I'll change my vote right away!

(end sarcasm)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 03/11/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

She does respond easily doesn't she. She pops off those lies, distortions and deceits like shes be doing it for decades. Oh wait-she has been doing it for decades...­she better be good at it. What would all that lying experience be good for if not responding easily to inconvenient truths.

At about 8:05 pm PST-tonight-Obama will have whipped out all of Sybil McCain's 4 net delegates from Ohio and Texas. He will not only wipe them away as if it never happened but he will further increase his lead in states, popular vote and delegates.

And as if that wasn't enough...S­ybil has just lost yet another Super Delegate and ardent supporter-Eliot Spitzer. Say bye bye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 03/11/2008
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Go Obama.. Clinton is exaggerates her foreign policy "experience". Sinbad has foreign policy experience too. He went with her to Bosnia.
Clinton/Sinbad 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 03/11/2008
- m4rk0 I'm a Fan of m4rk0 3 fans permalink

Finally someone calls her out on her fake experience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 03/11/2008
- Charmed I'm a Fan of Charmed 28 fans permalink

When is she going say what her "solutions" are. She keeps saying that she has them, well what are they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 03/11/2008
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