Obama Camp: Clinton Foreign Policy A Dramatized Assertion, Clinton Calls His Iraq Plan "Just Words"

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First Posted: 03-11-08 09:26 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 02:46 AM

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The Obama campaign has released an exhaustive memo on Hillary Clinton's foreign policy experience. They argue that Sen. Clinton's claim that she has passed a Commander-in-Chief threshold is "mere assertion, dramatized in a scary television commercial." They also detail each of the foreign policy situations -- Northern Ireland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Rwanda and China -- that Sen. Clinton has mentioned during the campaign.

Meanwhile, Sen. Clinton has sought to preempt a scheduled environment speech for Obama today. Co-opting his phrase, she calls both his environmental policy and his promise to withdraw from Iraq "just words."

Read Obama's memo (Clinton statement below):

To: Interested Parties From: Greg Craig, former director, Policy Planning Office, U.S. State Department RE: Senator Clinton's claim to be experienced in foreign policy: Just words? DA: March 11, 2008

When your entire campaign is based upon a claim of experience, it is important that you have evidence to support that claim. Hillary Clinton's argument that she has passed "the Commander- in-Chief test" is simply not supported by her record.

There is no doubt that Hillary Clinton played an important domestic policy role when she was First Lady. It is well known, for example, that she led the failed effort to pass universal health insurance. There is no reason to believe, however, that she was a key player in foreign policy at any time during the Clinton Administration. She did not sit in on National Security Council meetings. She did not have a security clearance. She did not attend meetings in the Situation Room. She did not manage any part of the national security bureaucracy, nor did she have her own national security staff. She did not do any heavy-lifting with foreign governments, whether they were friendly or not. She never managed a foreign policy crisis, and there is no evidence to suggest that she participated in the decision-making that occurred in connection with any such crisis. As far as the record shows, Senator Clinton never answered the phone either to make a decision on any pressing national security issue - not at 3 AM or at any other time of day.

When asked to describe her experience, Senator Clinton has cited a handful of international incidents where she says she played a central role. But any fair-minded and objective judge of these claims - i.e., by someone not affiliated with the Clinton campaign - would conclude that Senator Clinton's claims of foreign policy experience are exaggerated.

Northern Ireland:

Senator Clinton has said, "I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland." It is a gross overstatement of the facts for her to claim even partial credit for bringing peace to Northern Ireland. She did travel to Northern Ireland, it is true. First Ladies often travel to places that are a focus of U.S. foreign policy. But at no time did she play any role in the critical negotiations that ultimately produced the peace. As the Associated Press recently reported, "[S]he was not directly involved in negotiating the Good Friday peace accord." With regard to her main claim that she helped bring women together, she did participate in a meeting with women, but, according to those who know best, she did not play a pivotal role. The person in charge of the negotiations, former Senator George Mitchell, said that "[The First Lady] was one of many people who participated in encouraging women to get involved, not the only one."

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News of Senator Clinton's claims has raised eyebrows across the ocean. Her reference to an important meeting at the Belfast town hall was debunked. Her only appearance at the Belfast City Hall was to see Christmas lights turned on. She also attended a 50-minute meeting which, according to the Belfast Daily Telegraph's report at the time, "[was] a little bit stilted, a little prepared at times." Brian Feeney, an Irish author and former politician, sums it up: "The road to peace was carefully documented, and she wasn't on it."

Bosnia:

Senator Clinton has pointed to a March 1996 trip to Bosnia as proof that her foreign travel involved a life-risking mission into a war zone. She has described dodging sniper fire. While she did travel to Bosnia in March 1996, the visit was not a high-stakes mission to a war zone. On March 26, 1996, the New York Times reported that "Hillary Rodham Clinton charmed American troops at a U.S.O. show here, but it didn't hurt that the singer Sheryl Crow and the comedian Sinbad were also on the stage."

Kosovo:

Senator Clinton has said, "I negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo." It is true that, as First Lady, she traveled to Macedonia and visited a Kosovar refugee camp. It is also true that she met with government officials while she was there. First Ladies frequently meet with government officials. Her claim to have "negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo," however, is not true. Her trip to Macedonia took place on May 14, 1999. The borders were opened the day before, on May 13, 1999.

The negotiations that led to the opening of the borders were accomplished by the people who ordinarily conduct negotiations with foreign governments - U.S. diplomats. President Clinton's top envoy to the Balkans, former Ambassador Robert Gelbard, said, "I cannot recall any involvement by Senator Clinton in this issue." Ivo Daalder worked on the Clinton Administration's National Security Council and wrote a definitive history of the Kosovo conflict. He recalls that "she had absolutely no role in the dirty work of negotiations."

Rwanda:

Last year, former President Clinton asserted that his wife pressed him to intervene with U.S. troops to stop the Rwandan genocide. When asked about this assertion, Hillary Clinton said it was true. There is no evidence, however, to suggest that this ever happened. Even those individuals who were advocating a much more robust U.S. effort to stop the genocide did not argue for the use of U.S. troops. No one recalls hearing that Hillary Clinton had any interest in this course of action. Based on a fair and thorough review of National Security Council deliberations during those tragic months, there is no evidence to suggest that U.S. military intervention was ever discussed. Prudence Bushnell, the Assistant Secretary of State with responsibility for Africa, has recalled that there was no consideration of U.S. military intervention.

At no time prior to her campaign for the presidency did Senator Clinton ever make the claim that she supported intervening militarily to stop the Rwandan genocide. It is noteworthy that she failed to mention this anecdote - urging President Clinton to intervene militarily in Rwanda - in her memoirs. President Clinton makes no mention of such a conversation with his wife in his memoirs. And Madeline Albright, who was Ambassador to the United Nations at the time, makes no mention of any such event in her memoirs.

Hillary Clinton did visit Rwanda in March 1998 and, during that visit, her husband apologized for America's failure to do more to prevent the genocide.

China

Senator Clinton also points to a speech that she delivered in Beijing in 1995 as proof of her ability to answer a 3 AM crisis phone call. It is strange that Senator Clinton would base her own foreign policy experience on a speech that she gave over a decade ago, since she so frequently belittles Barack Obama's speeches opposing the Iraq War six years ago. Let there be no doubt: she gave a good speech in Beijing, and she stood up for women's rights. But Senator Obama's opposition to the War in Iraq in 2002 is relevant to the question of whether he, as Commander-in-Chief, will make wise judgments about the use of military force. Senator Clinton's speech in Beijing is not.

Senator Obama's speech opposing the war in Iraq shows independence and courage as well as good judgment. In the speech that Senator Clinton says does not qualify him to be Commander in Chief, Obama criticized what he called "a rash war . . . a war based not on reason, but on passion, not on principle, but on politics." In that speech, he said prophetically: "[E]ven a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences." He predicted that a U.S. invasion of Iraq would "fan the flames of the Middle East," and "strengthen the recruitment arm of al Qaeda." He urged the United States first to "finish the fight with Bin Laden and al Qaeda."

If the U.S. government had followed Barack Obama's advice in 2002, we would have avoided one of the greatest foreign policy catastrophes in our nation's history. Some of the most "experienced" men in national security affairs - Vice President Cheney and Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and others - led this nation into that catastrophe. That lesson should teach us something about the value of judgment over experience. Longevity in Washington, D.C. does not guarantee either wisdom of judgment.

Conclusion:

The Clinton campaign's argument is nothing more than mere assertion, dramatized in a scary television commercial with a telephone ringing in the middle of the night. There is no support for or substance in the claim that Senator Clinton has passed "the Commander-in-Chief test." That claim - as the TV ad - consists of nothing more than making the assertion, repeating it frequently to the voters and hoping that they will believe it.

On the most critical foreign policy judgment of our generation - the War in Iraq - Senator Clinton voted in support of a resolution entitled "The Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of U.S. Military Force Against Iraq." As she cast that vote, she said: "This is probably the hardest decision I have ever had to make -- any vote that may lead to war should be hard -- but I cast it with conviction." In this campaign, Senator Clinton has argued - remarkably - that she wasn't actually voting for war, she was voting for diplomacy. That claim is no more credible than her other claims of foreign policy experience. The real tragedy is that we are still living with the terrible consequences of her misjudgment. The Bush Administration continues to cite that resolution as its authorization - like a blank check - to fight on with no end in sight.

Barack Obama has a very simple case. On the most important commander in chief test of our generation, he got it right, and Senator Clinton got it wrong. In truth, Senator Obama has much more foreign policy experience than either Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan had when they were elected. Senator Obama has worked to confront 21st century challenges like proliferation and genocide on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He possesses the personal attributes of a great leader - an even temperament, an open-minded approach to even the most challenging problems, a willingness to listen to all views, clarity of vision, the ability to inspire, conviction and courage.

And Barack Obama does not use false charges and exaggerated claims to play politics with national security.


After seven years of an energy policy written by and for the oil companies - with help from Dick Cheney - oil has now reached $107 a barrel - and gas prices in some areas are approaching $4 a gallon.

I understand Senator Obama is talking about energy today, right here in Pennsylvania. And that's great. But talking about problems is easy. Solving problems is hard. And speeches are no substitute for solutions. Speeches won't lower gas prices, stop climate change, or lessen our dependence on oil from Saudi Arabia.

The true test comes when it's time to match rhetoric with results. And unfortunately, we've seen that Senator Obama's promises and speeches are often just words.

On the campaign trail, Senator Obama talks about clean energy. But in the Senate, he voted for Dick Cheney's energy bill loaded with new tax breaks for oil companies. When he faced a tough choice, his support for a clean energy future turned out to be just words.

It's like how he talks about fixing NAFTA. But his top economic adviser assured the Canadian government that he wouldn't really follow through. His position? Just words.

Senator Obama promises to withdraw from Iraq within 16 months. But his top foreign policy adviser said he's not really going to rely on that plan. I guess that plan is just words, too.

We need a president who will solve problems. Who will fight for our families long after the speeches are over and the cameras are gone. That's the choice in this campaign: Solutions you can rely on - versus words you can't.


The Obama campaign has released an exhaustive memo on Hillary Clinton's foreign policy experience. They argue that Sen. Clinton's claim that she has passed a Commander-in-Chief threshold is "mere ass...
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- fullkelly I'm a Fan of fullkelly 4 fans permalink

In case anyone is interested in the Florida and Michigan votes and delegates being seated:
The republican party has GUARANTEED to count every single vote that is cast for their nominee in the general election. In short---- If the Democrats will not count your votes for them---- THE REPUBLICANS WILL count all cross-over votes in the general election cast for their candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 03/11/2008

I wonder why these idiots wait until states that have at least a 20% minority population to show their behinds. I realize that Obama is simply finally addressing the unprovoked Billary attacks but he doesn't need to wast his time pointing out inconsistencies and straw man arguments---we already know the Clintons are liars and Hillary doesn't deserve to be president.

http://wonkette.com/365959/hillary-campaign-commits-credit-card-fraud-against-delightful-lady

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 03/11/2008
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 296 fans permalink
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Yes we know but evidently there are a number of people that do not understand and the MSM seems to have little interest in pressing it with her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 03/11/2008

Obama is waging a losing battle when he starts criticizing Hillary's experience. His claim is that she only has a little experience. But people would then turn around and say, "yeah, but you don't have even that." It only underscores the point that Obama has no substance and is nothing but an empty suit. But an great inspirational speaker though, I've seen people faint in his rallies.

Welcome to the world where a Manchurian democratic nominee might be picked by UT, KS, AL, GA, VA, LA, MS, NE, and other red states that WILL go to McCain in the fall.

Drink up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 03/11/2008
- riverhouse I'm a Fan of riverhouse 55 fans permalink

Obama has been in elective office far longer than Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 03/11/2008

Other red states like, say TX? Because apparently Senator Clinton's supporters are all convinced that McCain will win CA and NY if Senator Obama is on the ticket.

I'm having a difficult time imagining a general election where Senator Clinton could be the nominee and win any swing states. She will win the large solid blue states, as would Senator Obama, but whether you believe Senator Obama is ready to be president or not you have to admit that he has the kind of appeal that most politicians would kill for (I hope I didn't give the Clinton campaign any ideas). The kind of appeal that brings new people into the process that will help win elections.

Both Ohio and Florida went to Bush in 04, the Democratic nominee will need Republican voters to stay home to have any chance of winning those states. Having Senator Clinton on the ballot will all but guarantee a huge Republican turn out leaving us Bush II with a short fuse and no dancing skills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 03/11/2008

Hillary is JUST WORDS. That is wht she is losing, no substance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 03/11/2008
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We had a chance early on to keep the candidates with the most substance and experience in this race. They were ignored by the press, overshadowed by the hoopla and glitz, had to drop out.
We go with what we have.
This post is interesting in that it exposes HRC's non-role in international crises like Bosnia and Rwanda. If you read some of the books written about these events, you will discover that HRC gave her husband a book on the Balkans that took the view that these people were destined to fight each other forever. Clinton had campaigned on stopping the bloodshed there, but waited years before reluctantly allowing intervention, eventually on the insistence of Sen. Biden and others.
In Rwanda, it was a foregone conclusion that the US would not send troops to stop the genocide. In fact, the adminstration steadfastly refused to call it genocide for years, despite the deliberate systematic targeting of Tutsis for extermination. Our response was to send a small force solely to evacuate all Americans, in the embassy and otherwise. HRC and Bill congratulated those troops for a "job well done." It was not until there were nearly 800,000 deaths that we considered taking action.
I'm not saying that Clinton wasn't a good president, because he was in many ways. But the US has taken a pretty self-interested view of the world for many administrations.
Credit where credit is due. HRC can be known for less than nonaction in these instances.

At least Obama has a better grasp of foreign policy, and informed advisors. He has served with the best on that committee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 03/11/2008

"Clinton campaigned on stopping the bloodshed there"Bosnia was not mentioned in any serious way in the '93 campaign.....like your comment just fine......that part ...simply not true Regards.............tm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 03/11/2008

And I'm tired of her assertion that everything that happened in her adult life is "experience" yet simultaneously trying to claim that Obama's entire resume is a single speech. Really? Serving in state legislatures doesn't count as experience but being an attorney in private practice and serving on the board at Wal Mart does?

Sorry -- I guess I'm just not that gullible. I'm willing to grant her years as First Lady (of the US and of Arkansas) as experience, I'm just not willing to buy that every single breath she has drawn in her adult life is relevant experience. And I'm also willing to grant that Obama's years as community organizer and as State Senator count too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 03/11/2008

Careful what you wish for......Sen. Obama's years in the Illinois legeslature reveal a pattern of a less-than-high-minded backslapping, horse trading......in short very CONVENTIONAL Chicago pol.

Folks who support Obama should hope that the specifics of BHO's record from THOSE years remain as unknown as they are today...With respect....just saying................................................tm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 03/11/2008

Tommy, you bring up a good point. However, I would restate it as he practiced politics the way it USED to be done - in a more bipartisan, deal-making manner where you didn't automatically demonize the other side. The way that I see the Obama approach is that it is against the (fairly recent) trend of scorched-earth partisanship made popular by the Lee Atwater/Karl Rove axis of evil. Politics, as the art of compromise, is not inherently evil; but the current poisonous air of divide and conquer, slash and burn partisanship is evil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 03/11/2008
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 296 fans permalink
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So Hilly, what about your experience?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 03/11/2008
- anthonylee I'm a Fan of anthonylee 4 fans permalink
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Hillary as the Nomonee - Picture this ad in the GE:

“this ad is sponsored by the RNC – and we approve this message. . . . . “

Interviewer:

First Lady Laura Bush, do you believe that as First Lady, you garnered the experience necessary to be POTUS?

Laura Bush:

Absolutely not, I’ve participated and traveled the globe with my husband, and my duties included “Good Will Ambassador”, “Host” and “Chairwoman” for various federal social programs. My day-to-day involvement in Foreign Policy, Military Strategy and Security issues, Budgetary discussions were minimal. I was not privy to certain “classified” information (for security & legal reasons) and could not have provided “informed” knowledge or debate on such issues.

Interviewer:

Your years as First Lady of Texas, did you have more access to day-to-day activities of the State?

Laura Bush:

Again, unfortunately not, you see I’m proud of my role and responsibilities as First Lady. I barely had time to fulfill all of the responsibilities and duties of my Office to involve myself in the duties of the Governor or President for that matter?

Interviewer:

Interesting . . . . . . well perhaps we should leave this up to the American People to decide what experience Hillary captured throughout her 35 plus years she claims?

. . . . . . Fade to black

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 03/11/2008
- gwhizz I'm a Fan of gwhizz 20 fans permalink
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Laura Bush married GWB. I wouldn't rush to make any decisions based on her judgement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 03/11/2008
- anthonylee I'm a Fan of anthonylee 4 fans permalink
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touché . . . .

Ok, ok, ok . . . . switch Laura with Nancy Reagan . . . . .

Experience IS experience . . . . good, bad, indifferent!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 03/11/2008
- jojojo I'm a Fan of jojojo 11 fans permalink

From SmellTheHorse:

"Clinton-backer Ferraro: Obama Where He Is Because He's BlackMarch 11
Clinton campaign finance committee member, former vice presidential candidate, and former Rep. Geraldine Ferraro, D-NY, told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, Ca., that, "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Ferraro"s comments make explicit what I"ve suspected as a Clinton talking point for weeks now (see Hillary"s "I just wish the playing field was level" comment right before Ohio and Texas primaries)--the Clintons are pushing the theme that Obama is an affirmative action candidate
there is no way she, Ferraro, said the above without implicit or explicit green light from Hillary"the comment is aimed squarely at PA and NC blue-collar whites"

Also, Geri, where would you have been in '84 if you were a white man? Not the VP nominee. Nor would HIll be in this race.

If not for the sexism and racism, her comments would be funny and entertaiing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 03/11/2008

Hillary's experience traveling on official state visits does count for something -- but not in the sense that she's trying to claim that it does.

Meeting world leaders, attending state dinners, are *almost* irrelevant when it comes to the 3AM national security crisis phone call that one of our embassies has just been bombed, etc. We have no idea how she would handle that situation, we don't know how she would handle having to make a decision BY HERSELF, NOT AS 1 OUT OF 100 SENATORS that would result in loss of life -- potentially the loss of American lives.

I am in no way claiming to know how Barack Obama would do in those circumstances, I'm just suggesting that there's nothing in her past either that you can point to and say "Well, in this instance she had to make a decision that might've cost people their lives." so that gives me an idea of how she'd handle it in the future.

If that is the supposed "Commander-in-Chief" threshold that all candidates must pass, then hello President McCain -- he at least as military command experience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 03/11/2008
- Anciano I'm a Fan of Anciano 17 fans permalink
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At last! No more Mister Nice Guy!
How about these as a humble suggestion to the Obama camp.
We know you're reading this.

Mention Peter Paul and the upcoming trial in Los Angeles.

How about those tax returns? "The spring before his wife began her White House campaign, former President Bill Clinton earned $700,000 for his foundation by selling stock that he had been given from an Internet search company that was co-founded by a convicted felon and backed by the Chinese government, public records show. Mr. Clinton had gotten the nonpublicly traded stock from Accoona Corp. back in 2004 as a gift for giving a speech at a company event. He landed the windfall by selling the 200,000 shares to an undisclosed buyer in May 2006, commanding $3.50 a share at a time when the company was reporting millions of dollars of losses, according to interviews. A spokesman for the William J. Clinton Foundation declined to identify the buyer who was willing to pay so much for a struggling company's stock, saying only that the transaction was handled by a securities broker. " http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080307/NATION/15653289&template=printart

Here's a nice list of the newest and latest scandals involving http://prorev.com/2008/03/huge-corrupt-fundraiser-may-haunt.htmlunt.html

Of course there is always "The Clinton Chronicles" Google it. Now matter how much you think you know about Hillary and Bill and U.S. History, you will be amazed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 03/11/2008
- jimchap I'm a Fan of jimchap 2 fans permalink

The odd thing is that the Clintons simply 'state the facts' and hope to change reality by using facts as clay.
They try and sculpt some form of plausible reality out of a lump of crap. When it turns out that she's 'big hat, no cattle', she goes negative with other 'facts'.

I think she gets 7 Diamonds in the bullshit department. Wasn't Elliot a big Hillary man? hmmmmm.

Obama sticks to the facts and keeps his head above the Clintonian stench.

And to think, I started out supporting her but every time she opens her mouth I cringe
the same way I cringe when W starts to talk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 03/11/2008

Oh! We're going to start fact-checking things!? Wow! That's like something the media should be doing...but why start now? In the world of Clinton, one can just say any old thing as long as the goal is to win an election.

But to be fair, having Sinbad as the Secretary of State and Sheryl Crow as Ambassador to Bosnia would be a bold, breath-taking departure from the past. Laugh and sing and the whole world will laugh and sing with you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 03/11/2008

Sen. Obama, please get back on your core message of Change. That is how you got this far.

By answering Clinton's charges related to your experience you have reframed your message of Change with her now in control of the conversation. We want to know how will you create desired Change in foreign relations and the economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 03/11/2008

No, he needed to show that her core message: experience was a complete exaggeration. The media has been giving her a free pass as the "experience" candidate and when you actually look at the facts and evidence you see that she has no experience that has prepared her to be President and to answer that red phone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 03/11/2008
- clbrune I'm a Fan of clbrune 2 fans permalink

In other words, "Sen. Obama, please get back to your vague words about some kind of vague 'change,' instead of addressing actual issues of policy and experience.

"Especially since your policy is the same as Clinton's, and your experience is nothing to talk about."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 03/11/2008

There is a way for Obama to emphasize his core message of Change in the context of specific issues. But by specifically responding in the way he has the story line will continue, and people tend to believe what they hear enough times. So I would suggest a reframe.

You may notice that this "experience" discussion is mostly about safety and protection from enemies. This discussion was made secondary to the issue of the economy back in January. But Clinton was able to resuscitate it even though the economy is not considered top priority by most people.

Next time Clinton critiques on lack of experience, he can thank her for bringing up the concern. Obviously many people are concerned that the next President has the ability to provide safety and protection from enemies and leadership through action. He can then emphasize his own strengths and experiences in this regard and then take the discussion where he wants to go.

Obama already already proved he is a better Commander in Chief by his approach to the war, and he has demonstrated his will to go after actual threats based on his approach to strategical strikes in Pakistan. He is not a pushover like Kerry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 03/11/2008

He had to do this. If he didn't then the story would be "is Barack Obama tough enough to take on the Republican nominee?". Of course, that's based on the myth that the "Republican Attack Machine" is more vicious than the "Clinton Attack Machine".

He handled this right, I think. He kept it about facts. She really didn't have her National Security Clearance in the 90's and really couldn't have been in the room when those types of decisions were made.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 03/11/2008

Hate to tell 'ya..... "compassionone" is absolutely right. Every minute spent down in that muddy ditch is WASTED time....off-message, right where his opponents want him,....and looking like a very garden-variety mud-slinging pol.....and one who's not very GOOD at it either!

In short.......the new tack makes him look like the very thing he can LEAST afford to be percieved as : ....ordinary...and J.M.O.T.S.....(just-more-of-the-same).....................................................tm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 03/11/2008
- Jonni Rae I'm a Fan of Jonni Rae 22 fans permalink

It is a c lear, well-documented, truthful account of the falsity of her claims to have foreign policy experience. Without saying she is a liar, the memo proves it. I am so glad that this came out because the media will not question her false assertions. I am glad the HuffPost published it, and I hope all the main papers do. It is not an attack, simply the truth. Now if we can get the truth about the Canadian Nafta thing, that it was the Clintons, not Obama who assured the Canadians that they would not renegotiae NAFTA, we will be making more progress. You can't lie to the American people, that is what Bush has been doing. We don't want another liar in office. We don't want the Clintons with all their lies and scandals and dirty politics back in Washington either. We want an end to all that. Obama will bring this. He will win because the American people are fed up with being duped and lied to and manipulated .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 03/11/2008

-- Clinton Calls His Iraq Plan "Just Words" --

Sen. Clinton ... your tax returns and Bill's secret donor list to his library (donors while he was president) are also made up of "just words" ... how about you walk your talk and disclose them now?

What are you hiding?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 03/11/2008
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BRAVO!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 03/11/2008
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