Lincoln Chafee Interview: "Everyone Was Silent" On Iraq

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As the war in Iraq completes its fifth year this week, The Huffington Post is featuring interviews with and essays by those journalists, elected officials, policymakers and former military officials who spoke out early and boldly against what they saw as an inevitable disaster. They join our Iraq Honor Roll.

Lincoln Chafee: "Everyone Was Silent"
The Only Republican Senator to Oppose Iraq War Authorization Speaks Out

In the fall of 2002, as the United States Senate was granting the White House authorization to go to war in Iraq, only one Republican member of that body opposed the course of action. Lincoln Chafee, a moderate Rhode Island Republican, served on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee at the time that he expressed his skepticism. In his view, the administration had clearly failed to make its case to invade Iraq. Nor did he believe that the attacks on 9/11 were connected to Saddam Hussein. History, so far, has proved Chafee prescient.

In the summer of 2007, Chafee formally abandoned the Republican Party after losing his re-election run to Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse.

In this interview with The Huffington Post, he recounts how, at the time he opposed the initial war authorization, he felt like a sheep amidst the wolves.

What was it like to be in the opposition to the Iraq War five years ago, with the drums beating loud and the majority of the public and Congress supporting the rush to war?

When the president first started talking about Iraq, it was just met with incredulity. There was no connection between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. The intelligence was questionable. But there was all this fear from 9/11.

Colin Powell was the coup de grace with his testimony at the United Nations. And you heard it here in Rhode Island. People were saying, 'Well Colin Powell presented all this evidence about weapons of mass destruction and Saddam being a threat.' He sold the war for them.

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The administration was just brilliant with their marketing. I still marvel at the weapons of mass destruction. It never got defined. What were the weapons they were talking about? But it worked. People believed these weapons existed. People got the feeling that the [terrorists] were going to come down the shores and onto the main streets and that we were in danger.

What was going on in the Senate at the time? Was there just too much pressure by the administration for a majority anti-war coalition?

We just got through Vietnam. And we were about to do it all again. The Democrats were abysmal. They controlled the Senate in 2002. And none of the right questions were being asked. There was a minority led by Sen. [Robert] Byrd. He was terrific. But the floor was generally silent.

How could that be?

Sept 11th had everyone angry. It was a difficult atmosphere. It was a time you needed cool heads. But we didn't have them. And then you factor in the mistake the Democrats made on the first Gulf War. They didn't want to do that again.

When you think about it, all the leaders who were contemplating running for president - Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Tom Daschle - they all voted for it. Why? They all were making a calculated personal decision and didn't want the war hanging over them.

What were your thoughts on the media's role in the run up to the war? Did they do their jobs, or were they too acquiescent to the Bush administration?

I thought The New York Times was good. The Washington Post was okay. But, for the most part, the press went along. I can remember the talk shows, Imus and the like. The only people they were interviewing were war proponents. I used to listen to Imus driving into work and I used to scream: 'Can you get one person opposed to the war?' There were 23 of us in the Senate. You couldn't talk to Barbara Boxer? Russ Feingold? Paul Wellstone?

Was there a point in time during the war where you thought it could be a success? Or did you think, from the beginning, that it was doomed to be a lost cause?

There was a moment when I said to myself, 'You were wrong.' That was a moment right after "Mission Accomplished," right after 2003... [All these regional leaders] were all in the Jordanian seaside town of Aqaba, and they were all standing there saying that with the removal of Saddam Hussein, in Iraq was going to energize the peace process for Israel and Palestine. And I said 'Wow, if this all pans out that would be amazing.' Maybe I had misjudged it after all, Paul Wellstone called it dual victories in the war on terror, the fact that we could take out Saddam and restart the peace process. But it never happened. It never panned out. From that moment on it was just a series of bad decisions and blunders. And we lost any chance for success.

So, five years later, we are still in Iraq. And it seems that, until President Bush leaves office, we will remain there. What does the U.S. need to do in order to facilitate an end to the war?

We need to have stronger efforts on peace negotiations. I also believe that the six countries that share a border with Iraq - Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Turkey, Iran, Kuwait - those are the key countries if we want to get this thing resolved. They share a border with Iraq. They know the Iraqis. Two of them, people say, shouldn't be at the table - Syria and Iran. But we need to make stronger efforts to get them to share responsibilities if we want to end this war.

It seems as if the war has become almost an accepted reality for the American public. We are not shocked by news of deaths. And in some voter surveys, Iraq registers as the third most important issue.

With no draft it is almost like this is somebody else's war. But when the violence spikes [they pay attention]. And Vietnam is still fresh in people's minds. Yes, the war is down on page 8 [of the paper]. But now with the economy softening, I do think that people will make the connection. They will look at all these proposals and say: 'How the heck can we afford these things.' And they will look at how much money we are spending on the war.

Will our society be divided by this war even after it ends? Will the political and social fault lines be drawn around Iraq - much like they were, in the 80s and 90s around Vietnam?

The president still gets that standing ovation by saying it is the right thing to do. Yeah, that is a different crowd from the rest of America. And it is tied into continued fear about terrorism. So, yes, the potential is there for this battle to be waged for a long time.

As the war in Iraq completes its fifth year this week, The Huffington Post is featuring interviews with and essays by those journalists, elected officials, policymakers and former military officials w...
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- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 295 fans permalink
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Finally ONE decent Republican!

Even though I can NOT stand Republicans, but I really admire Lincoln Chafee.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 03/13/2008
- outnow I'm a Fan of outnow 178 fans permalink

Colin Powell promised to provide "evidence." No judge would allow into evidence the garbage collection of innuendo and expert opinion testimony from lay witnesses, evidence that was hearsay, and other non-probative "arguments" and drawings with no foundational testimony.

Hillary Clinton is not a trial lawyer. She couldn't weigh evidence or decide what is hearsay and what is opinions of non-experts - aluminum tubes that were not for nuclear materials, drawings, curveball's assertions, etc.

Most politicians wanted to be "in on the kill." Chaffee is more of a Democrat than Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, or Barack Obama, at least what I know of him, other than his speech. Edwards relented saying that he was "wrong."

Scott Ritter told Bill Clinton in 1998 that there were no WMD. Hans Blix, McKay and others. Even Sean Penn. What does it take to separate fact from fiction. people believe what they want to, especially when it suits their personal ambitions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 03/13/2008
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I recall Powell's 'A.Stevenson' moment very well. When he showed that test that picture of a mobile weapons lab truck. I asked: hey, that's a Milk delivery truck, how can you state that's anything else.

Just unbelievable.

If I were him I would still be on the lookout for a hole in the ground I could vanish in, for shame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 03/13/2008
- outnow I'm a Fan of outnow 178 fans permalink

A Winnebago of mass deception based on Curveball's know lies launched a thousand ships.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 03/14/2008
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 50 fans permalink

Last fall, Scott Ritter said watch out for Iran next April. Hummm. I used to think he was a nut, but everything he said came to be true. And what does Chafee mean "nobody spoke up". If Congress had listened to the constituents, I think you would have found great support for NOT going into Iraq. It is done, now what do we do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 03/13/2008

AND April coming right up! Adm. Fallon has left the building! Iran has an election this week...............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 AM on 03/14/2008
- outnow I'm a Fan of outnow 178 fans permalink

Scott Ritter was accused on having an underage girlfriend.

Apart from the fact that Colin Powell, speaking in February 2001 of US sanctions in Iraq, said:

"And frankly they have worked. He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors."

(State Department press release, February 24, 2001)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 03/14/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 148 fans permalink

So much of Powell's "evidence" was from a single source. Powell blundered by taking the word of George Tenet instead of running all the facts by mid-level analysts who actually studied the intelligence daily. They would have told Powell that most of the infomation was untrue or untrustworthy. Powell was incedibly naive in doing the bidding of Bush and tossing out his reputation in the process. One never gets it back. Attorney General Mukasey is making the same mistake now. I wonder if they care or just believe the president should not be held accountable?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 03/14/2008

After 9/11 the Bush Administration told us to go "shopping" and "to have a heightened sense of awareness." ONLY the former took hold.
Society is so structured AGAINST awareness, most Americans would have to take intensive courses in it, and even then I'm not sure that would override their early childhood training!
We are disconnected from nature, distrustful of our sensory information; ( learning early to stifle them, they pop out in unexpected and destructive ways; binge drinking, drugs, sex, TV, Getting Money, as opposed ti earning a living.)
Being an Artist, have trained my awareness all my life, it's part of the job descriptio­n.........­........
So I have been tuned in to the fakey back drops employed by the bushites from the very beginning.
In the days leading up to Colin Powells fall from grace, the tapestry replica of Picasso's Guernica, a graphic depiction of the horrors of the Spanish Civil War, was hanging there in the UN. The day of his speech about the WMD's it had been replaced by a navy & gold Non-controversial, print. The day after Guernica had resumed its place of honor! I KNEW HE WAS LYING! How about ME for President?
Couldn't have people looking at people and horses screaming in agony from war, while selling the reason for a war!
No Art appreciation in the schools, how can people know? ( And I read of a school teacher in SanFrancisco who was fired for taking her students on a field trip to a museum where there were "Oh God Forbid! PAINTINGS OF NUDES.!)
My exceptionally bright & creative 13 year old Grandson thinks the Govt. should provide free college educations in the technology fields, NOT in the Arts & Humanities, THAT, YOU, would have to pay for!
Even the Arts & Entertainment Channel has "cold cases? LAW? I think that has become entertainment". Too many Law shows, too many armchair lawyers, too many lawyers, period. "Rule of Law Country, that Breaks the Laws regularly.­..........­.....
Even the hikers, climbers..­........no­t aware of nature , not in partnership with it, but CONQUERING IT!
Really too bad we didn't move in here and adopt some of the spiritual practices of the NAtive Americans instead of kiling them off!.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 AM on 03/14/2008
- bbbbmer I'm a Fan of bbbbmer 30 fans permalink
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i think it's time for mr. chafee to become a democrat, instead of continuing with a party that seems entrenchedly corrupt, dishonest, and that threw him under the bus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 03/13/2008
- Tom95134 I'm a Fan of Tom95134 54 fans permalink
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"And none of the right questions were being asked. There was a minority led by Sen. [Robert] Byrd. He was terrific. But the floor was generally silent."

And still the Democrats are silent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 03/13/2008
- jnratliff I'm a Fan of jnratliff 8 fans permalink

Is there one republican with some small amount of honesty and integrity? I can't believe it. Never seen it in my life time. but I guess anything is possible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 03/13/2008
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 134 fans permalink

Thank you Sen. Chafee.

If only this, if only that. The fact is that someone, probably Rove, successfully orchestrated the lies to the American people.
Sen. McCain has embraced Rove as an advisor for his campaign. The Republican Goebbels is still at work, trying to destroy America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 03/13/2008

So tell me why RI are full of idiots?

They all voted for Clinton, including the new Senator there.

Clinton...who voted for the war. Who'da thunk? THey voted out the anti-war Senator and voted in a Senator who supports Clinton who was pro-war?!?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 03/13/2008

They all would have voted for Chafee if he would have run as an Independent promising to caucus with the Democrats. People wanted a Democratic majority in the Senate.

Lincoln Chafee is the epitome of a public servant. I may not agree with him on all issues, but at least you know he is a man of principle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 03/13/2008
- Macready I'm a Fan of Macready 60 fans permalink

you are so right about this MTVernonGuide . . . if Chafee had run as an Independent he would have kept his Senate seat . .. loved this: "Lincoln Chafee is the epitome of a public servant. I may not agree with him on all issues, but at least you know he is a man of principle."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 03/14/2008

"They all voted for Clinton ..."
I suspect Hillary's gender carried the day. Remember, Hillary's posture in OH and RI was to present herself as the newly evolved peacenik with the exact same views on iraq as Barak Obama. I'd say she successfully blurred the lines and never allowed herself to be viewed as a "hawk" in 2002. remember her statements: "that was the past, we are where we are today" and "my vote was for inspections and a vote for war".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 AM on 03/14/2008
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He (Chaffee) was also the only senator that voted against the Iraq War resolution to lose a re-election attempt the first time they stood for re-election after the vote.

That's right Every Democratic Senator that voted NO and chose to stand for re-election won re-election all three cycles...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 03/13/2008
- scrzbill I'm a Fan of scrzbill 69 fans permalink
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Very interesting and candid observations. Too bad we don't have more of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 03/13/2008
- dutchess2 I'm a Fan of dutchess2 16 fans permalink

Iraq war = $12 billion a month....

out of your pocket

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 03/13/2008
- UNCLEJOE I'm a Fan of UNCLEJOE 56 fans permalink
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$12 Billin a month

out of your pocket

and our children's pockets

ad our grandchildren's pockets

and our great grandchildren's pockets

etc...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 03/13/2008
- indc I'm a Fan of indc 17 fans permalink

More than 3 TRILLION is the current estimate... Bush has been a 7 TRILLION $ disaster for most of us, he was a dream come true for certain industries and interests, here and abroad... I don't think this cost includes things like the price of gas and its associated costs like significantly more expensive food. There are other things as well, tuition costs, health care costs, and on and on it goes...

We need new thinking about our problems, new types of solutions.. not what passes for experience.. a 7 year and more train of mistakes, deceptions, lies, thefts... that is experience we must reject since it is either corrupt or profoundly stupid and ego protecting, or both... I think both is the correct answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 03/13/2008

$12 Billin a month
out of your pocket
and our children's pockets
ad our grandchildren's pockets ( WHO WILL BE SPEAKING CHINESE!)
and our great grandchildren's pockets
etc...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 AM on 03/14/2008

Fix the "loosing" to "losing". Kinda bugs me. Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 03/13/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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ditto!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 03/13/2008
- nottoworry I'm a Fan of nottoworry 2 fans permalink

To quote Mr. Chafee, "And Viet Nam is still fresh in people's minds." I lost a son in Viet Nam and I have seen firsthand the devastation in the lives of the men who came back from Nam.

If I mention any of this to today's generation, I almost always get this reply or something similar, "That was a long time ago. Time to get over it".

Viet Nam is only fresh in the minds of the people who lived and suffered from it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 03/13/2008
- don I'm a Fan of don 26 fans permalink
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I am sorry for your loss. I know there is no "getting over" something of that magnitude, ever. Those that suggest you should have no comprehension of what they are asking of you. Cherish your memories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 03/13/2008
- hoodrat I'm a Fan of hoodrat 22 fans permalink

And you hear children say WWII was America and Germany fighting against the Russians, truly sad...what's that quote: those who don't know history, are doomed to repeat it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 03/14/2008
- wisechild I'm a Fan of wisechild 6 fans permalink

Dear Sen. Chafee:

I greatly admired you but never more than after reading this interview. l was sorry you were sacrificed in '06 and lost your seat.

My hope is that you will rejoin the GOP and form it to what it once was before the evangelicals and neo-cons cannibalized it.

Even better, join the Democrats and bring your integrity there. Your distinguished family added a lot to the political landscape and I hope to see you return, perhaps when sanity returns.

In the meantime, kudos for standing alone; not easy when the drumbeat drowns out all reason.

Thanks to HuffPo for the post...it's quite revealing even though we know...we know...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 03/13/2008
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 23 fans permalink

ditto....thank you Senator Chafee !!!!! Best for the future to get back !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 03/13/2008
- Zhonni I'm a Fan of Zhonni 15 fans permalink
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He is now leaning Democrat, the party of solutions. Just thought you should know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 03/13/2008
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What s/he said (except the part about returning to the GOP); your daddy's GOP is long dead.

I've admired you for a long time and believe you are a man of honor.

thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 03/13/2008
- deb813 I'm a Fan of deb813 5 fans permalink

Thank you so much for this interview with this brave and patriotic man. It took a lot of guts and bravery not to just go along with the steamroller. The votes of those presidential candidates hangs around their necks like an albatross and now they try to pretend they didn't know what they voted for. they knew and voted anyway and it took bravery and courage not to take the vote. Thanks to Huffpost and Senator Chafee!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 03/13/2008
- LITU I'm a Fan of LITU 87 fans permalink
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Sept 11 was the neo-cons' new Pearl Harbor, and anyone who doesn't get that hasn't been paying attention. Senator Chafee helps me recall why I once was a Republican, while at the same time, reminding me why I am no longer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 03/13/2008
- army193 I'm a Fan of army193 9 fans permalink
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Second Kudos for you Senator!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 03/13/2008
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