While you had you nose in the Brittanica, you should have dome some other research. Many of these First Ladies (and I mean more than Hillary) have played a hell of a lot more than a ceremonial role.

First I would probably question your referring to these ladies as intelligent people. A few would fit that description; many are of questionable intelligence, certainly not idiots, but of questionable intelligence. Think you can say they all performed their role as "first lady" in a way in which we can all be proud.

Would also have to raise a question about stating a first lady's role "is entirely ceremonial, and to claim otherwise can only be viewed as a rather desperate exaggeration." I think you may find where a few people would disagree with that. I have read where Eleanor Roosevelt (I know she is not on your list but was a first lady) and Nancy Reagan did were on occasions a little more than just ceremonial first ladys. So I guess I do not find it inconceivable that Hillary may also have been somewhat more than just a ceremonial first lady.

Time and CNN just published an analysis of Hillary's "experience." In every area, her claimed experience was exaggerated. I evaluate many dozens of resumes (CVs) every year for the past thirty years. She has committed some overstatements -ranging from significant to major. Most people lack the legal training and/or political background to evaluate her actual experience.

The "cat is out of the bag" on Hillary's credibility. Once major distortions are made in the context of resume fraud, the issue becomes one of character and credibility. No amount of additional experience can vitiate that defect.

Hillary has also misrepresented her agreements with Mr. Obama on the primaries in Florida and Michigan. Olbermann revealed these documents signed by Hillary Clinton yesterday. No reasonable attorney could doubt that Hillary has gone over the line on this and other issues. Her positions on NAFTA are contradicted in her own memoirs.

I think he stated facts and not opinion. As former counsel to Bill, I think he would know who held what security clearances and what information was classified. My guess is that he held a security clearance himself.

Well, they tried the opposite with Gerri Ferraro and look how that turned out for you.

Exactly. We should only listen to people who have swore life long allegiance to the Clintons. Anyone who has anything negative to say about the Clintons is obviously biased against them and should therefore not be listened to.

You are soooo clever...

Don't forget, a whole bunch of us in the middle hate her too. Don't forget, she doesn't and can't win enough delegates to win. Don't forget she wont be able to pass Obama in popular votes. Good enough for me.

I think swanky is a little upset that her candidate is losing.

So what are you going to do on election day? Are you going to vote for McCain? How about Nader?

She voted with the "radical right".

Good enough for you, but not REAL Democrats.

So anyone who dislikes Hillary for very good reasons is a radical lefty? Strange definition. Would you casre to define all the rest of the words in your paragraph as ibased on that definition one can only wonder at what the rest of your words mean. Authentic old western gibberish?

Hmmm. LaFeminazi. Your name says it all.

Good lord... take some initiative and find out yourself! That's one of the things that's wrong with this country; people want everything just handed to them on a plate!

Do some research! Watch the debates! LEARN. Barack Obama doesn't need defending -- he's laid out all you need to know through the debates, through interviews, and on his own website. Even though I'm not a Hillary supporter, I've read every LINE on her website and know where she stands... and, after all that, I choose Barack Obama.

Point: Don't wait for someone to decide something for you or convince you of anything. Use your OWN brain and be an educated voter.

Here's the case and it's been made by Obama since Feb. 2007 and if you bothered to listen or do research you'd see it too.
1. Is not beholden to special interests like Hillary is. Does it not concern you that the defense contractors have given her more money than they have McBush?
2. Sees both sides of an issue before making a decision. Obama is revered and respected by his colleagues for seeking their often divergent opinions on issues before voting.
3. Has more elected legislative experience than Hillary - 50 percent more.
4. Has passed more AUTHORED bills in the U.S. senate in half the time he's been in office compared to Hillary.
5. Will help bring this country past it's racial, gender, ethic, religious and sexual identity issues. Will he make them go away? Of course not. But he will be the first president in hopefully a long line that make things better along those lines.
6. Gets our respect back from other nations.
7. Transparency and open government. Check out some of the things Obama wants to do with this in his 64-page "Blueprint for Change." Does HIllary have anything more than her one-page on the issues? I haven't been able to find it.
8. Admits when he has and will makes mistakes. This shows a humility and realness that will be refreshing.
9. Has led a movement that has resulted to massive numbers of new Democrats and has renengaged the youth.
10. NO Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton!
Shall I go on?

How about this? He has more pledged delegates and he's going to beat John McCain in November.

Good point, MNDADDY, the campaign has been steered away from the issues.

What's important to you? Ending the war in Iraq? How the world views the US? The economy? Healthcare? Immigration Reform? Pick an issue!

If you want to study the issues, go to Obama's website. If you want to vote based on character, keep watching the way he handles everything that is thrown at him.

I honestly can't see the case Mc Cain can make for his presidency. More of the war? More money wasted? More casualties? More tax cuts for the wealthy? A broken economy fixed by deficit spending?

We need to get through this nomination crap. If you're from MN, your chance to alter the outcome of the primaries has passed, as has mine in IL.

You'll see Obama's strengths against Mc Cain very clearly as that race draws near.

Expecting others to do your research?

I don't think Cliff Notes will be out with their election edition in time... you may want to take some personal responsibility there.

She's getting his 'goat'. Bit by bit. The 1000 cuts strategy.

"She's just pure evil!"

Yeah, there's no doubt about it; Hillary is the devil incarnate, maybe even the anti-Christ.

Duh.

"She's just pure evil"?

Yes, anyone that challenges St Obama must be evil.

To defy the will of Obama is to be in league with the devil.

All praise his name.

She's not "pure evil"... her tactics are dirty, underhanded and lack integrity that we need in the White House. Yes, it's easy to villify Hillary, to call her "evil", but if we do that, she wins because then her supporters rally 'round and campaign harder for the "victim." It's an unfair double standard, but that is how she has decided to run her campaign... and why I cannot vote for her.

How?

What did he say that was FACTUALLY inaccurate? None of these facts has anything to do with whom he supports:

Fact: she did not particpate in on national security meetings.
Fact: She did not have a security clearance.
Fact: She did not attend meetings in the situation room.
Fact: She conducted no negotiations.
Fact: She did not manage any part of the national security bureaucracy.
Fact: She did not have her own national security staff.

Clinton supporters apparently are so used to their candidate lying and distorting they have trouble recognizing plain old facts when they are right in front of them
More Facts:
She said she opened that Border in Macedonia. She did not open it. She lied.
She said she negotiated peace in Ireland. She did not. She lied.
She said she will release her tax records. She has not. I predict she will not. This will be another lie.
This is not psychic powers at work...it is simple logic--what possible reason would she have for releasing those records in the future that she does not have NOW? She will keep promising those records "someday" but that day will never come....anyone want to take a bet on this prediction of a proof of another Hillary Milhous Clinton Whopper.

yes he is an obama adviser, but if you hear him out he's not saying she has no experience, just that some of the claims her campaign has made are a bit of a stretch. pointing out that she had no security clearance, isn't a biased statement & neither is pointing out that she didn't negotiate with foreign leaders.

This one is even better.

The "media expert" who claimed the media was biased against Clinton is a man named Walter Shorestein, who has been lining the pockets of the Clinton's for years now.

The media ran with it, treating Shorenstein as if he was not biased and did not have a conflict of interest.

So quit your crying and complaining and bitching and moaning. Or is that all you people can do??? Cry victim. WAAAA!

Obama land everywhere,but there's a reason.When Hillary says Florida and Michigan should be counted it begs the question why? I listened to her explanation today which was contrary to the facts.Nobody would mind if she were a wily politician,but dishonesty is bringing her down real quick.I voted for Hillary in the primary,came home that same night and saw Obama on the tube and he was very compelling compared to Hillary who I thought was very intelligent but seems to have become a "politician",by that I mean dishonest,which is not too intelligent.I'll vote for her if I have to,but hope it doesn't come to that as I'm not too interested in her healthcare agenda(sold out to the healthcare lobby).Iraq also seems to be an unknown when I listen to her talk about it..She does seem to want to win at all costs,no matter what happens to the party.Also I'm seeing too much togetherness with the Bush family and it's disturbing.